Commando pro

Shammy

Why do you hate it, it is noticable on this forum that a lot of people hate commando, personally i never had a problem with it, i have never come across someone to stab me from a distance away either.
So is it a question of lag that makes it worse , or is it worse on the ps3 ?

Imo on the 360 i have no problem putting down people with marathon/lightweight and commando.

JeanClaude

Shammy wrote: »

Why do you hate it, it is noticable on this forum that a lot of people hate commando, personally i never had a problem with it, i have never come across someone to stab me from a distance away either.
So is it a question of lag that makes it worse , or is it worse on the ps3 ?

Imo on the 360 i have no problem putting down people with marathon/lightweight and commando.

When someone does, and you're after emptying a full clip into him before he stabs you, tell us how you feel then...:D

Nuri Sahin

CBA rehashing everything I said before in regards to how Commando is a bunch of BS so I'll just post a few vids to demonstrate how retarded the perk is...

I love this guy...

Tallon

It has nothing to do with Lag, it's jsut ****ing annoying

Jet Black

I dont mind it either. I use headphones and can usually locate someone by their footsteps so i know how to attack them without leaving myself an open target.

r3nu4l

As a PS3 player I do find it annoying. Funnily enough I find the animation of the Commando Pro attack more annoying than anything else. It just seems to be 'wrong', probably because the real-life physics of someone jumping across a room at you and sinking a knife into your chest from that distance is wrong.

However, I certainly don't hate a player who uses it, I just remember to be more careful in close-quarter battle scenarios (crouch quickly, lie prone, etc.).

slavetothegrind

i unashamedly use it as a perk.
I am not that good. It helps me.;)
If you are going to allow long shots with a sniper rifle without even properly scoping then why not? ( i'm lookin' at you TALLON:D)
Both occurances are fabricated why is one any worse than the other?

And no dammit i can not quickscope or noscope. I have not been able to.

I do play straight, no cheating. Cheating is pathetic in all it's forms, i enjoy many persuits exceling in none but if i cheated to achieve i would feel like a lowlife.

That guy in the above rant vid is hilarious!

Creasy_bear

Adnan Alves wrote: »

CBA rehashing everything I said before in regards to how Commando is a bunch of BS so I'll just post a few vids to demonstrate how retarded the perk is...

I love this guy...

Is that the lad from the "beastly gameplay" video ?

Lab_Mouse

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Is that the lad from the "beastly gameplay" video ?

Yeah thats what i thought when i heard the bestly video.

As for commando pro,as tallon put it..its just fukking annoying!!

Nalz

Ye I know its a video game, but commando pro seems to be the least realistic perk.

As was mentioned before "physics" needs to come into play here in some shape or form. If there was something in the game like superjump, whereby you could leap into the air at twice the height of a normal jump, even more people would be hopping about the game (excuse the pun). Same sort of principal applies here.

But if anything has to be removed from the game its T.Is, put an end to this boosting bullshít

anonymous_joe

Commando should do what the tactical knife attachment does for handguns - speed up melee, not give the extra range.

Creasy_bear

Commando can be very annoying , but I think I find "last stand" perk even more of a pain in the arse :mad:

I've killed you but youre so useless you need a second chance everytime you die . Basing your gameplay around a death perk

Cossax

anonymous_joe wrote: »

Commando should do what the tactical knife attachment does for handguns - speed up melee, not give the extra range.

This.

Incredibly frustrating to see what amounts to Dhalsim-like arm stretching across the screen to kill you despite opening fire and sticking a few rounds in their chest.

Jev/N

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Commando can be very annoying , but I think I find "last stand" perk even more of a pain in the arse :mad:

I've killed you but youre so useless you need a second chance everytime you die . Basing your gameplay around a death perk

I don't think so TBH...

All they need is one more shot or a hit with any sort of grenade and they're gone.

It's a great perk for use when capping points in domination/HQ as you still take the points while in last stand

Also, final stand is the death perk, last stand isn't.

Shammy

JeanClaude wrote: »

When someone does, and you're after emptying a full clip into him before he stabs you, tell us how you feel then...:D

Like i said i played a lot of time on this game and it hasnt happened , you point must be lag related.

Trilla wrote: »

Ye I know its a video game, but commando pro seems to be the least realistic perk.

As was mentioned before "physics" needs to come into play here in some shape or form. If there was something in the game like superjump, whereby you could leap into the air at twice the height of a normal jump, even more people would be hopping about the game (excuse the pun). Same sort of principal applies here.

But if anything has to be removed from the game its T.Is, put an end to this boosting bullshít

I used the perk for 3 games last night , went negative in all 3, and i wasnt able to stab someone from a distance, i must be doing something wrong.

Creasy_bear

Jev/N wrote: »

I don't think so TBH...

All they need is one more shot or a hit with any sort of grenade and they're gone.

It's a great perk for use when capping points in domination/HQ as you still take the points while in last stand

Also, final stand is the death perk, last stand isn't.[/QUOTE]

I knew someone would say this :rolleyes:..........I was referring to it as a death perk as in ...... unlike ninja ,steady aim, commando or scrambler you actually have to die to get to use it . Youre basing your whole gamplay on the fact that youre going to die ............lots rather than thinking to yourself youre going to die **** all :cool:

Some people would say its noobs perk like jugger/martydom

Creasy_bear

Shammy wrote: »

Like i said i played a lot of time on this game and it hasnt happened , you point must be lag related.



I used the perk for 3 games last night , went negative in all 3, and i wasnt able to stab someone from a distance, i must be doing something wrong.

Im the same useless when ever I try it . Never know how far you can actually knife from . Nothing but knife fails then as soon as I respawn he does the knife movement :rolleyes:

Jev/N

Creasy_bear wrote: »

I knew someone would say this :rolleyes:..........I was referring to it as a death perk as in ...... unlike ninja ,steady aim, commando or scrambler you actually have to die to get to use it . Youre basing your whole gamplay on the fact that your going to die ............lots rather then thinking to yourself your going to die **** all :cool:

Some people would say its noobs perk like jugger/martydom

I wasn't trying to be argumentative if that's what you mean. I just thought you were confusing the two.

Don't tell me what I'm "basing my gameplay on" - I use Ninja Pro 90% of the time

Having said that, if I'm playing Dom or HQ I'll stick last stand on now and again to aid in capping flags. I'm not trying to die or expecting to, BUT if someone deals enough damage while capping a flag, I might be able to aide my team by lasting a couple of important extra seconds.

It's just like TI's, they annoy a lot of people but there are circumstances where they can be used to a team's advantage, not just the individuals.

Creasy_bear

Jev/N wrote: »

I wasn't trying to be argumentative if that's what you mean. I just thought you were confusing the two.

Don't tell me what I'm "basing my gameplay on" - I use Ninja Pro 90% of the time

Having said that, if I'm playing Dom or HQ I'll stick last stand on now and again to aid in capping flags. I'm not trying to die or expecting to, BUT if someone deals enough damage while capping a flag, I might be able to aide my team by lasting a couple of important extra seconds.

It's just like TI's, they annoy a lot of people but there are circumstances where they can be used to a team's advantage, not just the individuals.

good God .........I wasnt actually talking about you

Creasy_bear

Creasy_bear wrote: »

Commando can be very annoying , but I think I find "last stand" perk even more of a pain in the arse :mad:

I've killed you but youre so useless you need a second chance everytime you die . Basing your gameplay around a death perk

Like on my first post , I wasnt actually talking about you

Jev/N

Creasy_bear wrote: »

good God .........I wasnt actually talking about you

Well if you quote my post and write a response, it's hard to tell the difference

Anyways, was just trying to argue my view that Commando is way out of sync with the rest of those perks, annoying as they may be :pac:

Creasy_bear

Jev/N wrote: »

Well if you quote my post and write a response, it's hard to tell the difference

Anyways, was just trying to argue my view that Commando is way out of sync with the rest of those perks, annoying as they may be :pac:

see my previous post

Jev/N

Creasy_bear wrote: »

see my previous post

Only saw you're second post now

The Shtig

It's just silly and frustrating that it allows someone to pretty much teleport and makes them invincible during it.

In a match of TDM in Invasion i saw someone on the otherside of those walls you can hop over. Just as i'm about to try and shoot him he magically lunges towards me even though the bloody wall is inbetween us and still gets me! I wasn't standing right against it either.

Taking no fall damage in the pro version is a good idea but the main perk itself could do with a change, maybe just the ability to stab someone faster?

Shammy

So it seems the problem is worse on the ps3 with being able to teleport across a room .

claiva

Shammy wrote: »

So it seems the problem is worse on the ps3 with being able to teleport across a room .

Yeah definitely looks like its worse on the PS3.
I think its worse when two players are running towards each other, I find I always lose those battles, I think its because I either
A) come up against someone with a better connection or indeed the host himself
or
I just don't press lunge quick enough (far away enough).

It doesn't bother me though. A shotgun to the face usually does the trick !

GavRedKing

I used to use it alot before until I kept getting stabbed by it, having tasted my own medicine I decided to tone it down, I still use it as a witching class, as in UMP, M9 Tactical Knife, Marathon/Lightweight/Commando Pro.

Now before I get slaughtered for using this class, im ny defence I dont use the Tactical Knife as much, its a total BS attahcemnt with Commando, I only really use this class in game modes like Sabotage or Demolition when you have to be somewhere fast, I dont fall back on the commando perk and only have it as its handy to take no falling damage.

shawpower

Couple of things.

You mention the three games you used it on. Was that when we were playing tactical matches? I know you said you went negative, but there were about 3-4 times when you got me with your commando lunge. I've not come across the commando much before, but was really bummed with it in that game. It was probably because we were playing 4v4 that I ran up against you way more frequently that I'd normally get killed by the one person. Anyway, I was unloading ammo into you and then you'd appear in front of me and I'd be dead. You don't realise when you are playing how much of a lunge you get, but trust me it is noticeable from my end.

But maybe you're right about it not being as common on the 360 than on the PS3?

I do go knifing occasionally, but usually just use the First Recon class which gives me Ninja rather than Commando (benefit of this is that every knife kill with the magum tac knife counts as a gun challenge kill which isn't the case with every other weapon). It is possible to rack up decent scores, but it is really map dependant. I mean Terminal and Wasteland don't suit because you have long sight lines. Favela and Scrapyard aren't bad. Bizarrely, despite it's huge size, I find Derail the best, because you have so much cover, and then you've got loads of guys trying to snipe out windows. The Warehouse in particular is a good spot. I've scored over 30 kills in games on that map (with killstreaks also), and I'd say 90% of the time go positive. I actually came close(ish) to a knife nuke there also, with 19 kills I think.

Shammy

shawpower wrote: »

Couple of things.

You mention the three games you used it on. Was that when we were playing tactical matches? I know you said you went negative, but there were about 3-4 times when you got me with your commando lunge. I've not come across the commando much before, but was really bummed with it in that game. It was probably because we were playing 4v4 that I ran up against you way more frequently that I'd normally get killed by the one person. Anyway, I was unloading ammo into you and then you'd appear in front of me and I'd be dead. You don't realise when you are playing how much of a lunge you get, but trust me it is noticeable from my end.

But maybe you're right about it not being as common on the 360 than on the PS3?

.

Thats where lag comes into to play , we had a dodgy host (sorry mark) and your other 3 team mates complained of bad lag, in saying that i still went negitive , cadman always took a step back when he saw me running and i went down easy enough.

SRFC90

Shammy wrote: »

Thats where lag comes into to play , we had a dodgy host (sorry mark) and your other 3 team mates complained of bad lag, in saying that i still went negitive ,

How dare you:p



Thats me there, not too good with internet connection speeds and their relevance to gaming, but care to gimme the low-down on that? Why I'm often picked as the host and why I'm often kicked when I am!? Ping is high is about all I know...

Shammy

Upload isnt great , jesus that ping is sky high.

krudler

Mines even higher, tested it there and its at 213ms! bloody eircom,10mb broadband my hole, although its in a busy area so thats why, I usually get 4 bar connection in the late hours of the night

hightower1

SRFC90 wrote: »

How dare you:p



Thats me there, not too good with internet connection speeds and their relevance to gaming, but care to gimme the low-down on that? Why I'm often picked as the host and why I'm often kicked when I am!? Ping is high is about all I know...

Yeah mate your upload and pings are killing the game there.

If the upload is slow your commands and if your the host anyone elses commands will appear slow.

Ping times will have the same effect. Ever notice sometimes you see someone jutter across the screen in a kill cam? Thats erratic ping times in action. Get on to UPC for a line test. Also run a CMD -t ping test t a near enough domain and see whats what.
Also make sure your not downloading or anyone else in the house is downloading when your testing too.

The Shtig

Shammy wrote: »

So it seems the problem is worse on the ps3 with being able to teleport across a room .

It doesn't happen too often but when it does its pretty annoying. I can't really compare the two but my post might make it sound like it's common.

Lab_Mouse

Torrents are a ****er for your bandwidth

SRFC90

Yeah, then why does it pick me as host!? Surely someone in that room has a better connection!??

hightower1

See if your pings or speed are erratic they may be good at time of host selection then drop or become intermittent.

Ideal set up would be xbox direct to modem and nothing else connected to this.
Meaning nor routers no comps, no downloading no iphones no nothing.

Those stats arent great though so I would call up UPC and get a line check done.

raze

I tend to play hardcore TDM/SnD, 1 bullet kill from an UMP means I don't see a lot of commandos, but there's definitely a few times guys have bent space-time with their knives.

I'd like to see the perk tweaked - if it wasn't increased melee distance, instead pressing the button put you in a stab stance (like priming a frag grenade), then it automatically released when someone was in range. I'd be happier, it's still a perk because using it you could just balls to the wall charge someone knowing you have a chance of stabbing.

I find last stand a bit annoying, but only because at range I don't like to finish people off. Screw anyone who wants to have a perk that gets them a kill when they're dying on their arse. Die alone and bored instead. Far too often I don't quite make it to cover before I've been pistol-spammed - or misjudge it and catch Final Stand spam instead. D'oh. Worst of all, I came across one guy who I left in last stand three times and each time he planted a claymore and topped himself whenever I left him. Nothing wrong with the perk though, thought it was a good idea when I saw it in CoD4 first.

sierra117x

hightower1 wrote: »

See if your pings or speed are erratic they may be good at time of host selection then drop or become intermittent.

Ideal set up would be xbox direct to modem and nothing else connected to this.
Meaning nor routers no comps, no downloading no iphones no nothing.

Those stats arent great though so I would call up UPC and get a line check done.

yeah but he's not having problems connecting the xbox to the router its his high ping and low upload thats the problems .

and id say your being picked because its registering as a 10 meg download connection and COD is basing its connection soley on that (guess work here correct me if im wrong)

sierra117x

raze wrote: »

Worst of all, I came across one guy who I left in last stand three times and each time he planted a claymore and topped himself whenever I left him. Nothing wrong with the perk though, thought it was a good idea when I saw it in CoD4 first.

ha ha did you run into the claymore 3 times