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Newborn babies to get bar codes instead of handwritten name tags

  • 23-04-2010 7:28pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭


    A hospital in the UK has become the first to issue all new born babies with bar codes instead of traditional handwritten tags.

    Kettering General Hospital’s maternity unit has introduced the system to end mistakes caused by the illegible handwriting of medical staff.

    Now all newborns are getting a personal bar code strapped on their ankles which midwives zap with a scanner to read the baby’s details.

    Medical staff can find the child’s name, date of birth, national insurance number and name of the mother in a matter of seconds. They can also trace blood samples at the press of a button via a regional laboratory that tests for conditions such as sickle cell disease and cystic fibrosis.

    But if you have got it in a bar code you get rid of mistakes and eradicate human error.”


    Of course tags can be tampered with, come loose fall off etc,

    We all know where this will eventually go. :eek:

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/child_health/article7105626.ece


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,698 Mod ✭✭✭✭Silverfish


    Wasn't there something in the bible about this.

    End times, I'm telling you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    We all know where this will eventually go. :eek:

    And where might that be?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    And where might that be?

    If the tags can be tampered with, go missing etc. then the solution will be to embedd the barcodes onto skin.

    problem-reaction-solution.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    A hospital in the UK has become the first to issue all new born babies with bar codes instead of traditional handwritten tags.

    Kettering General Hospital’s maternity unit has introduced the system to end mistakes caused by the illegible handwriting of medical staff.

    Now all newborns are getting a personal bar code strapped on their ankles which midwives zap with a scanner to read the baby’s details.

    Medical staff can find the child’s name, date of birth, national insurance number and name of the mother in a matter of seconds. They can also trace blood samples at the press of a button via a regional laboratory that tests for conditions such as sickle cell disease and cystic fibrosis.

    But if you have got it in a bar code you get rid of mistakes and eradicate human error.”

    Of course tags can be tampered with, come loose fall off etc,

    We all know where this will eventually go. :eek:

    a4bpjq.jpg


    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/child_health/article7105626.ece

    They should go back to the flawless hand written system. Nice picture, why didn't you use a Nazi one?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    If the tags can be tampered with, go missing etc. then the solution will be to embedd the barcodes onto skin.

    problem-reaction-solution.

    Right......newborn babies getting tattoos! Seriously :rolleyes:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7 David Icke


    Yes, the hand written tags currently in use cannot be tampered with or lost.

    Surely hand writing directly onto the baby wold be a beter plan than using flimsy tags and the devils bar codes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    If the tags can be tampered with, go missing etc. then the solution will be to embedd the barcodes onto skin.

    problem-reaction-solution.

    Hand written tags can go missing, they should be tattooed onto the skin.
    problem-reaction-solution


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Hand written tags can go missing, they should be tattooed onto the skin.
    problem-reaction-solution
    Barcode tattoos will stretch accordingly with age on human skin so RFID implants would be the enevitable solution. :eek:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    new world order drones hardly need names or family, waste of money


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    Barcode tattoos will stretch accordingly with age on human skin so RFID implants would be the enevitable solution. :eek:

    Stretchy skin spoils NWO's plot again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    If the tags can be tampered with, go missing etc. then the solution will be to embedd the barcodes onto skin.

    problem-reaction-solution.

    So why weren't names etc. tattooed or embedded onto the skin?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Barcode tattoos will stretch accordingly with age on human skin so RFID implants would be the enevitable solution. :eek:

    That crafty NWO never stop thinking of ways to control us........or is it the CTers making stuff up again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,574 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Of course tags can be tampered with, come loose fall off etc,
    So, how about having no tags at all? :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    It either will lead to The mark of the beast which is in revelations (it's actually revelation but troofers aren't ones for facts) or it's for making babies easier to sell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    amacachi wrote: »
    So why weren't names etc. tattooed or embedded onto the skin?

    It would cause a lot of negative publicity.The only way they can achieve this is by incremental tip-toe steps so that the public will hardly notice what is going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It would cause a lot of negative publicity.The only way they can achieve this is by incremental tip-toe steps so that the public will hardly notice what is going on.

    How would someone hardly notice a tattoo being put on their newborn??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    How would someone hardly notice a tattoo being put on their newborn??

    Oh man....... read the thread again will you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Oh man....... read the thread again will you


    I did.....still don't see how they can secretly bring in tattooing babies without anyone hardly noticing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    I did.....still don't see how they can secretly bring in tattooing babies without anyone hardly noticing.

    Im sure they will find a way, just like they found a way to scan naked images of our children........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Im sure they will find a way, just like they found a way to scan naked images of our children........

    So airport security scanners leads to newborn babies being tattooed in hospitals?? :eek:


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Im sure they will find a way, just like they found a way to scan naked images of our children........

    That was the most elaborate attempt to obtain soft child pornography then...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    yekahs wrote: »
    That was the most elaborate attempt to obtain soft child pornography then...

    It is morally wrong and its disgusting, no amount of skepticism or propaganda will hide that fact


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    It is morally wrong and its disgusting, no amount of skepticism or propaganda will hide that fact

    Agree. I find airport scanners to be OTT especially when used on children. But I don't see what it has to do with babies being tattooed as in the OP. One does not automatically lead to the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    barcodes and full integraded electronic tagging (when they roll it out eventually) should be done at birth in the hospital. the current system of abducting and tagging people with ufos is too labour intensive. The last thing we want from the NWO is a massive civil service with job duplication.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Easier to integrate barcodes into CCTV systems for security purposes. http://www.intellex.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=56&Itemid=29
    Realy don't see the problem with replacing hand written tags from that point of view.

    On the other hand, tats are ghey like.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Agree. I find airport scanners to be OTT especially when used on children. But I don't see what it has to do with babies being tattooed as in the OP. One does not automatically lead to the other.

    Im not linking the two, i was merely giving an example of how problem-reaction-solution works so effectively.Theres no way people would have accepted the full body scanners we have in place now until they enforce the "hegelian dialectic" and now they are used on a daily basis without any resistance at all from people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    Silverfish wrote: »
    Wasn't there something in the bible about this.

    End times, I'm telling you.

    Was there ? elaborate please :)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Was there ? elaborate please :)

    Because the bible is unambiguously referring to barcodes when it uses the phrase "the mark of the beast". Well at least it used to be, now it definitely means RFID chip implants...:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,366 ✭✭✭✭Kylo Ren


    We is all gonna DIE!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Lets not get carried away with the sarcasm etc.

    Personally, I think the barcode is a great idea, but a smart idea would have been to have code and hand-written name


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    In the not so distant future, proud parents will be taking photo's of their new born babies first barcode.
    In reality though, the whole scenario reminds me of how they tag cattle, so they can trace it back to it's origins etc.
    Regarding the "human error" aspect, couldn't someone still accidentally put the wrong barcode on the wrong baby ?
    There is no need for it imo

    Parolees tagged, cattle tagged and now babies tagged, general folk are gonna want to be tagged too, just to fit in. It's perfect :rolleyes:

    If you don't want to be tagged (RFID,Barcode etc) then you must have something to hide and are quite possibly a terrorist.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    In the not so distant future, proud parents will be taking photo's of their new born babies first barcode.
    In reality though, the whole scenario reminds me of how they tag cattle, so they can trace it back to it's origins etc.
    Regarding the "human error" aspect, couldn't someone still accidentally put the wrong barcode on the wrong baby ?
    There is no need for it imo

    It doesn't remove all possibilities for human error, nor did anyone make that claim. Depending on how soon after birth they tag the newborn, it could be made next to impossible to tag the wrong baby.

    The hospital administration felt there was a need for it, why do you disagree?
    Parolees tagged, cattle tagged and now babies tagged, general folk are gonna want to be tagged too, just to fit in. It's perfect :rolleyes:

    That just sounds silly.
    If you don't want to be tagged (RFID,Barcode etc) then you must have something to hide and are quite possibly a terrorist.

    You're making a huge leap from what this thread is about to what you fear the future will bring, and it's not based on anything real.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Was there ? elaborate please :)

    In the end times nobody will be able to buy or sell anything unless they receive the "mark of the beast".Everybody is to receive this mark on their shoulder or right hand.Seeing as this is where the chips get implanted people are linking the RFID to the mark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    Kepti wrote: »
    It doesn't remove all possibilities for human error, nor did anyone make that claim. Depending on how soon after birth they tag the newborn, it could be made next to impossible to tag the wrong baby.

    Yeah but in reality, it is just to desensitize people toward barcodes,chipping etc


    Kepti wrote: »
    The hospital administration felt there was a need for it, why do you disagree?

    Was there no need before now ? Has this particular hospital got unusually forgetful staff ? And have they only become forgetful recently ?
    Kepti wrote: »
    That just sounds silly.
    It was supposed to, notice the "it's perfect" sarcastic tone ?
    Kepti wrote: »
    You're making a huge leap from what this thread is about to what you fear the future will bring, and it's not based on anything real.

    I am not in fear of anything and I am not taking any leap, Youtube "RFID chip"
    and see the clips of police men, families and others getting the chip in the interest of safety/security.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    Yeah but in reality, it is just to desensitize people toward barcodes,chipping etc

    Whose reality? Were bar-codes introduced to supermarkets because of the convenience or as part of the desensitization effort?
    Was there no need before now ? Has this particular hospital got unusually forgetful staff ? And have they only become forgetful recently ?

    Yes, there was a need before now. They identified an ongoing problem and sought a solution to it. The article says the problem was illegible handwriting, not forgetfulness of staff.

    You're railing against something that helps babies and makes hospitals more efficient.
    It was supposed to, notice the "it's perfect" sarcastic tone ?

    I think you misinterpreted what exactly I was calling silly there.
    I am not in fear of anything and I am not taking any leap, Youtube "RFID chip"
    and see the clips of police men, families and others getting the chip in the interest of safety/security.

    Some individuals choose to get RFID chips implanted so it somehow follows that anyone who chooses not to will be a branded a terrorist or has something to hide? Reads like a leap and unfounded fears to me.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    yekahs wrote: »
    Because the bible is unambiguously referring to barcodes when it uses the phrase "the mark of the beast". Well at least it used to be, now it definitely means RFID chip implants...:rolleyes:
    Revelation 13vs 16 to 18 refers to a mark in the right hand or forehead according to ancient Greek manuscripts. "Textus Receptus". "Epi" referring to "center", The 1611 is taken directly from this translation. Corrupt modern translations such as the HIV version state on the hand which could foolishly be misinterpreted as a barcode.

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    King James Version: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads"

    Modern HIV version: "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead".

    Even the RC Douay Rheims version specifies a mark in the hand which gives credibility of an implant over a mark or tattoo on the hand.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,225 ✭✭✭Yitzhak Rabin


    Revelation 13vs 16 to 18 refers to a mark in the right hand or forehead according to ancient Greek manuscripts. "Textus Receptus". "Epi" referring to "center", The 1611 is taken directly from this translation. Corrupt modern translations such as the HIV version state on the hand

    verichip-serpent.jpg

    King James Version: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads"

    Modern HIV version: "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead".

    Even the RC Douay Rheims version specifies a mark in the hand which gives credibility of an implant over a mark or tattoo on the hand.

    So can you honestly state, hand on heart, that long before RFID chip technology was around, that you weren't claiming that barcodes were the mark of the beast?

    Also, you would need to prove that the book of revelation is divinely revealed wisdom, rather than the ramblings of a schizophrenic in a cave, but I suppose therein lies its beauty, it can be interpreted anyway you want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    yekahs wrote: »
    So can you honestly state, hand on heart, that long before RFID chip technology was around, that you weren't claiming that barcodes were the mark of the beast?

    Also, you would need to prove that the book of revelation is divinely revealed wisdom, rather than the ramblings of a schizophrenic in a cave, but I suppose therein lies its beauty, it can be interpreted anyway you want.
    I was aware of the Barcode containing the "forbidden" number going back as far as 1982 little did I know about RFID implants at the time. :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 747 ✭✭✭uglyjohn


    ok....so just so i know....as it stands, the conspiracy theory in this thread is that the beast (satan) in conspiring with Kettering General Hospital’s maternity unit to put chips in babies so when the NWO takes over the babies (now adults) can buy goods and services?

    How the hell did we let it come to this! :mad:
    im gonna write a very strongly worded letter to my T.D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    I thought they all ready did this, could of sworn last time i was in hospital my tag had a bar code on it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    There are people out there who already have barcodes embedded onto their bodies.A few weeks ago i was in a restaurant and a guy sitting in front of me had a barcode on the back of his neck, i was gona take a picture of it and upload it here for you guys to see but i didnt fancy my chances against a well-built 6ft Russian if he got angry about it.
    Maybe he was ex military or special forces but it just goes to show.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,379 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    There are people out there who already have barcodes embedded onto their bodies.A few weeks ago i was in a restaurant and a guy sitting in front of me had a barcode on the back of his neck, i was gona take a picture of it and upload it here for you guys to see but i didnt fancy my chances against a well-built 6ft Russian if he got angry about it.
    Maybe he was ex military or special forces but it just goes to show.....

    Or maybe he was some dude he just decided to get a tattoo on his neck in the form of a barcode.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    There are people out there who already have barcodes embedded onto their bodies.A few weeks ago i was in a restaurant and a guy sitting in front of me had a barcode on the back of his neck, i was gona take a picture of it and upload it here for you guys to see but i didnt fancy my chances against a well-built 6ft Russian if he got angry about it.
    Maybe he was ex military or special forces but it just goes to show.....


    Ive seen quite a few people with these truly imaginative tattoos :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Ive seen quite a few people with these truly imaginative tattoos :rolleyes:

    Really?? Thats interesting, what on earth would inspire people to get a barcode tatooed onto their bodies


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    Really?? Thats interesting, what on earth would inspire people to get a barcode tatooed onto their bodies

    People get stupid stuff tattooed on their bodies all the time.



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    I'll bet that person had a much cooler vision for that particular monstrosity, but they did it of their own free will, Last time I was home there was a piture in the People Paper of some tool from Castlebridge charged with something, but he had a feckin 'Jaffa' tatoo on his forehead like that Stargate Sh!te.

    the debate here is more about the involuntary taggin of babbies


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,406 ✭✭✭PirateShampoo


    Really?? Thats interesting, what on earth would inspire people to get a barcode tatooed onto their bodies


    Quick google search http://www.jetcityorange.com/barcodes/tattoos/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 426 ✭✭Kepti


    Ive seen quite a few people with these truly imaginative tattoos :rolleyes:

    In defense of barcodes, 95% of other tattoos couldn't be classed as remotely imaginatively either.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭Di0genes


    I'll bet that person had a much cooler vision for that particular monstrosity, but they did it of their own free will,

    As do loads of people who get barcode tattoos
    Last time I was home there was a piture in the People Paper of some tool from Castlebridge charged with something, but he had a feckin 'Jaffa' tatoo on his forehead like that Stargate Sh!te.

    the debate here is more about the involuntary taggin of babbies


    And theres no evidence babies are going to be tattooed, merely that a single hospital is using barcodes instead of scribbled handwritten tags. How is that "involuntary"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Really?? Thats interesting, what on earth would inspire people to get a barcode tatooed onto their bodies

    Maybe he was into Front 242. Maybe he liked the barcode tatoo in Alien.

    Maybe it's his commentary on his slavery to the illumaniti and urban desolation in which we all live in.


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