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Who vioted for Fianna Fail in the last election and why??
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21-04-2010 9:00pm#1
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I did.
I'd like to Publicly apologize for that here and now BTW.
As for the why? Just look to opposition benches. Eamonn Glib-more and Enda KennZzzzzzzz* hardly inspired me to vote for them, as they attempted to outbid FF in a Dutch auction for the voters. That and the fact that I failed to realize how much of a ponzi scheme most of our economy was built on.0 -
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He looks like Gandhi next to Bertie.Laminations wrote: »Because of John Gormleys unwaivering integrity?
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I voted FF last election
for two reasons: 1) we were heading into tough times and I thought they'd be better able to handle it then any opposition parties; 2) it's a family tradition. I've voted FF all my life, but never again, my eyes have truly been opened. Having said that I am dismayed at the lack of any credible alternative, Kenny and friends are just more of the same, "give us more CE scheme places" - same parish pump ****. Labour are a joke, Gilmore thinks the govt should reverse PS paycuts. ****ed we are. But I will vote for another party if only to ensure FF go. 0 -
Not living the 4 car, Bulgarian Bolthole, 6 figure salary dream you thought you were signing up for when you X'd that ballot slip?????
Well in fairness, I never did.
I rent, as I couldn't afford a house during the boom (hopefully things might now change on that front), I don't drive and I work for a stingy company that's are, when it comes to pay and remuneration, about as generous as a pre-epiphany Scrooge.
But, the country on the whole seemed to be on the upswing.
I never thought FF were a particularly effective government. They were a bit like watching the slow kid play 'pin the tail on the donkey' when it came to the length of time and the amount money it cost to get anything done in this country, but at least the pin (eventually) went into the donkey’s ass and not into mine, as it might had it been in Gilmore's hand.
Of course, now we all have a pin in the eye and a pain in the arse.
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I did.
I'd like to Publicly apologize for that here and now BTW.
As for the why? Just look to opposition benches. Eamonn Glib-more and Enda KennZzzzzzzz* hardly inspired me to vote for them, as they attempted to outbid FF in a Dutch auction for the voters. That and the fact that I failed to realize how much of a ponzi scheme most of our economy was built on.
Eamon Gilmore was not party leader at the last election. Pat Rabbite tied the Labour party to FG and the joint programme for government was as bad as FF's.
Currently Labour is going back to its roots of being a centre-left party, in every sense of the world. Nothing too rash, we are not Joe Higgins and we will not shake the economy. What we do propose is stimulus to get people back to work. The more people in work, the greater the tax take, the lower the social welfare burden.
Giving over 70 billion to the banks was not the way to go. AIB and BoI are systemic banks to Ireland that should never be allowed fall. But Anglo-Irish should have been wound down or allowed hit the wall. This is where Labour differs to every party in the state in being the only ones to oppose the bank guarantee.
What I will say is Labour are a different party than they were 3 years ago under Rabbite. We have new policies, they are on the Labour party website. They are perfectly sane reasonable proposals. Judge the Labour party on policy and read for yourself.0 -
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@Scofflaw
is there a need for the Greens any-more considering that now the environment/green issues are firm on the agenda of all other parties?
Have they not succeeded in that dept? (lets leave the long list of failures for another thread)
I care about the environment but in a practical sense, I see environmental issues as issues that can be fixed via engineering projects and private enterprise, not in the hippy sense that makes the Green party so repulsive for so many people
for example: i am pro nuclear (rather a clean reliable energy source that coal plants) as a gap until a proper grid/wind system is in place few decades from, most Greens object to it in nothing more that hippy idealist grounds
Another example: the waste/joke that the electric car scheme is, that money could have been better spend on extending the insulation grant scheme
While "green" issues are important, i really have no respect left for the current lot they are now in the same pile with SF,FF 0 -
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@Scofflaw
is there a need for the Greens any-more considering that now the environment/green issues are firm on the agenda of all other parties?
Have they not succeeded in that dept? (lets leave the long list of failures for another thread)
I care about the environment but in a practical sense, I see environmental issues as issues that can be fixed via engineering projects and private enterprise, not in the hippy sense that makes the Green party so repulsive for so many people
for example: i am pro nuclear (rather a clean reliable energy source that coal plants) as a gap until a proper grid/wind system is in place few decades from, most Greens object to it in nothing more that hippy idealist grounds
Another example: the waste/joke that the electric car scheme is, that money could have been better spend on extending the insulation grant scheme
While "green" issues are important, i really have no respect left for the current lot they are now in the same pile with SF,FF
If you actually think the mainstream parties have taken environmental issues on board, then you are probably mistaking having a policy about something with thinking about it.
As to your preference for engineering solutions to environmental "problems", a large number of hard-earned lessons point the way to failure there, as well as a certain amount of confusion on your part. Nuclear power isn't an engineering solution to an enviromental issue, and the majority of Greens who object, do so on the basis that nuclear waste disposal is an untested trial with very long-term consequences. I happen to disagree with them, but there's a logical argument to it, just as there is with GM foods.
cordially,
Scofflaw0 -
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