Clothing / Etiquitte Question

Degag

Hi all, just looking for opinions on this.

I was out golfing at the weekend and i saw a few guys playing in tracksuit pants - not wetsuit pants which can look similar - and was wondering have some clubs changed their stance on apparel which their players can wear. I was under the impression that unless you wore slacks, you would not be let out on the course. Now, to be fair they were not garish colours but pretty distinctive on a golf course i would have thought.

I ask because i wouldn't mind wearing them out golfing myself as i find them far more comfortable.

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I have a pair of navy track bottoms that I wear from time to time, they look like wet gear bottoms a little. They're very comfortable too. I think once you look respectable you should be grand ie. don't wear bottoms with large logos printed down the leg.

conno16

any golf club that starts letting in blokes in tracksuits is a farce in my opinion
the game is built on some strong customs / traditions that must be upheld and respected

any club i know wouldn't let you near the place without slacks, carefully ironed shirt etc

if you want to start learning karate you dont turn up in a woolie sweater ffs

Mister Sifter

Depends where you're playing really. If it's your local pay and play - an Elmgreen or a Sillogue - on a saturday afternoon then a reasonably tidy pair of trackies would probably get past the front desk no probs. On some of them you might even be the best dressed player on the course.

If it's a Luttrellstown or a Royal Tara then i'd keep it to 'golf wear'.

Then again, Sergio seemed to get away with playing in a pair of trackies around Augusta.

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conno16 wrote: »

any golf club that starts letting in blokes in tracksuits is a farce in my opinion
the game is built on some strong customs / traditions that must be upheld and respected

any club i know wouldn't let you near the place without slacks, carefully ironed shirt etc

if you want to start learning karate you dont turn up in a woolie sweater ffs

In your opinion are wet gear bottoms respectable?

Just because they're made by a golf brand name doesn't mean they're much different another pair that isn't.

I have often seen men wearing golfing gear that is almost identical to tracksuites only they have some sort of golf logo on them.

I think it is important not to look like a sham on the coarse but some of these "strong customs / traditions" you talk off are ridiculous and any real golfer wouldn't care less what others are wearing on the coarse and would be more concerned about the golf.

'scorthy

I'd have to throw my ores in with conno16. Not wishing to appear pretentious but there are standards...hence the original question contained the word 'etiquette'. IMHO I think that clubs have dropped their standards to maintain green fees thereby turning a blind eye to dress code.
I love to see ladies in bright colours, neatly dressed and the guys looking sharp as they were in the lovely sunshine last Saturday. It's not a fashion show but it shows they have respect for themselves and wish to maintain tradition. There were several societies out and they al worn the same society top and 98% wore slacks. If societies can make the effort surely the members should by example.

fullstop

Mister Sifter wrote: »

Then again, Sergio seemed to get away with playing in a pair of trackies around Augusta.

Was just going to say this. Garcia has been wearing shocking looking 'trousers' with the 3 white stripes for the past few weeks.

Mister Sifter

And as for the 'culchies' with their cords... pfffft

conno16

wet gear should only be used when its, ahem, raining
i have to say some of the wet gear used these days is questionable
i'd put a requirement on club members to invest in a galvin green suit or other such equivalent if it was up to me

in any case, when its not raining we're talking slacks and shirt
preferably from the poulter range

stockdam

I think some clubs have let it go too far already. Tracksuit bottoms should not be worn on the golf course (nor in the club house). People should dress reasonably smartly.

Raingear is functional and is ok but trackies (even plain ones) are not.

Degag

Don't know if i should mention the course... but it's a pretty well known one!

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Degag wrote: »

Don't know if i should mention the course... but it's a pretty well known one!

Go for it, we can handle it

conno16

K Club?
Portmarnock?

Webbs

The whole question about clothing is a difficult one. Which looks better a pair of plain black tracksuit bottoms with no logos or a pair of John Dalys finest psychedelic slacks. I know which I would prefer to see on the course (and it aint the big American!!).
Certainly clothing should look OK but mainly you want it to be functional, thats why am amazed at those who wear denim on the course as its horrible to wear not that it looks that awful.

Degag

No, Killarney. Holding the Irish Open this year, albeit, it wasn't the Killeen course where it's being played but one of it's sisters.

Rowley Birkin QC

I've only taken up the game in the last year but discussions such as this one are what put me off the game for so long.

I was out at the weekend in a black pants that I got from a golf shop, a white t-shirt I got from Penneys and my FJ Aqls. The only way you could tell the pants wasn't a plain black O'Neills/Addidas/Nike trackie pants was by the logo. Who really cares about what those around them are wearing?!

FlutterinBantam

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

I've only taken up the game in the last year but discussions such as this one are what put me off the game for so long.

I was out at the weekend in a black pants that I got from a golf shop, a white t-shirt I got from Penneys and my FJ Aqls. The only way you could tell the pants wasn't a plain black O'Neills/Addidas/Nike trackie pants was by the logo. Who really cares about what those around them are wearing?!

I do!!

If I want to mix with tattooed guys wearing singlets I will drink in the 'Sheaf o' Wheat' and play darts.

Remember people will always, I say again, always , go for the lowest common denominator.

So if there's no maintained dress code someone, there's always someone, will turn up in a singlet, GAA shorts , and waltz onto the first tee.

It's no big deal, neat and tidy is the name of the game.

Conor J

a couple of years ago it was near criminal in most parts to not wear a collared t-shirt on a golf course, now look at the pro's, and in particular Tiger. plenty of round necks on tour. Golf shoes are no longer plain and are shoe like in appearance either, a huge amount of people wear what would appear closer in resemblance to trainers.

Id not wear tracksuit bottoms to the golfcourse, but if someone is comfortable in clothes that are respectable, then why not. the clubs could do with more members and extra greenfees.

perhaps the top clubs can remain strictly formal,
perhaps there can be a rule to not go into the clubhouse with them on.
but in reality, Golf clubs are co-ops, so the members get to say.
which brings us back to what the members, pros, etc are wearing.

FlutterinBantam

Conor J wrote: »

a couple of years ago it was near criminal in most parts to not wear a collared t-shirt on a golf course, now look at the pro's, and in particular Tiger. plenty of round necks on tour. Golf shoes are no longer plain and are shoe like in appearance either, a huge amount of people wear what would appear closer in resemblance to trainers.

Id not wear tracksuit bottoms to the golfcourse, but if someone is comfortable in clothes that are respectable, then why not. the clubs could do with more members and extra greenfees.

perhaps the top clubs can remain strictly formal,
perhaps there can be a rule to not go into the clubhouse with them on.
but in reality, Golf clubs are co-ops, so the members get to say.
which brings us back to what the members, pros, etc are wearing.

Not those kind of members Conchoubhar.

Kace

Conor J wrote: »

a couple of years ago it was near criminal in most parts to not wear a collared t-shirt on a golf course, now look at the pro's, and in particular Tiger. plenty of round necks on tour. Golf shoes are no longer plain and are shoe like in appearance either, a huge amount of people wear what would appear closer in resemblance to trainers.

Id not wear tracksuit bottoms to the golfcourse, but if someone is comfortable in clothes that are respectable, then why not. the clubs could do with more members and extra greenfees.

perhaps the top clubs can remain strictly formal,
perhaps there can be a rule to not go into the clubhouse with them on.
but in reality, Golf clubs are co-ops, so the members get to say.
which brings us back to what the members, pros, etc are wearing.

Things are on the way down in this regard. Jeez Couples looked like someone dragged him in from the streets outside the gates of Augusta with those runners he had on.

As for tracksuit bottoms and t-shirts, I think any decent golf course can do without them. A lack of respect for the beautiful game IMHO.

Conor J

Kace wrote: »

Things are on the way down in this regard. Jeez Couples looked like someone dragged him in from the streets outside the gates of Augusta with those runners he had on.

As for tracksuit bottoms and t-shirts, I think any decent golf course can do without them. A lack of respect for the beautiful game IMHO.

That would be my stance too..

some of the less attractive clubs per se should probably allow them, as its a means to get kids into golf, and kids, teens etc will wear anything. if they are serious about golf, and wana take it further, they can buy the propper clobber before hitting the better courses.

soundsham

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

I do!!

If I want to mix with tattooed guys wearing singlets I will drink in the 'Sheaf o' Wheat' and play darts.

Remember people will always, I say again, always , go for the lowest common denominator.

So if there's no maintained dress code someone, there's always someone, will turn up in a singlet, GAA shorts , and waltz onto the first tee.

It's no big deal, neat and tidy is the name of the game.

I do too
don't really care 'bout tatoo's really though never really saw it as a problem or noted anywhere in the golfers etiquette

played blarney last week saw a few pairs of jeans out there and and one soccer jersey
have seen jeans out there too before

but the biggest thing for me is how does someone wear them and find it comfortable

Rowley Birkin QC

Where does the consensus stand on wearing shorts? Especially coming into the summer weather now.

Conor J

Rowley Birkin QC wrote: »

Where does the consensus stand on wearing shorts? Especially coming into the summer weather now.

shorts should be fine, as long as they are decent and knee length or something. god forbid people in hot locations are made play in trousers.

played Strandhill last year in shorts, it was a seriously hot day. dont think i could have bared it in anything but very light trousers or shorts.

heavyballs

soundsham wrote: »

I do too
don't really care 'bout tatoo's really though never really saw it as a problem or noted anywhere in the golfers etiquette

played blarney last week saw a few pairs of jeans out there and and one soccer jersey
have seen jeans out there too before

but the biggest thing for me is how does someone wear them and find it comfortable

doesn't matter what way you were them jeans should not be allowed,as for a soccer jersey..........fing joke imo and i'm no fuddy dudy beleive me

soundsham

heavyballs wrote: »

doesn't matter what way you were them jeans should not be allowed,as for a soccer jersey..........fing joke imo i'm no fuddy dudy beleive me

as you were making part of my post bold i thought i'd return the favour
ya it's a joke

Tom Ghostwood

Stone wash denim jeans & a fag hanging off yer bottom lip! GTFO!

heavyballs

soundsham wrote: »

as you were making part of my post bold i thought i'd return the favour
ya it's a joke

i was merely pointing out what part of your post i was referring to,:mad:

stumpypeeps

In the summer I like to wear a little pair of denim cut offs. A la Tobias, Arrested Development.

On a serious note, the golf course is one place where people are encouraged to dress smartly and its a welcome change from the usual. I'm not too hung up on the particularites but there are a number of ways of dressing smartly. Usually a collar and the shirt tucked in. Plus a set of golf shoes.

I think Ryan Moore must have been taking the piss at Augusta!

Kace

soundsham wrote: »

I do too
don't really care 'bout tatoo's really though never really saw it as a problem or noted anywhere in the golfers etiquette

played blarney last week saw a few pairs of jeans out there and and one soccer jersey
have seen jeans out there too before

but the biggest thing for me is how does someone wear them and find it comfortable

Shorts are fine as long as they not short shorts - just above the knee cap looks good to me. Last thing I want to endure during my round is having to check out my playing partners' pasty pins :eek:

conno16

its up the bloke in the pro shop to lay down the law
clowns turning up in jeans, football jerseys, tracksuits etc should be booted straight back to the car park
I'd find it very distracting playing a round if there were blokes wandering round the course without appropriate golf apparel.
you can buy a full kit including shoes down in aldi/lidl for prob 30 euros if things are tight ffs (actually for that sort of cash they'd prob throw in a set of clubs and 5000 golf balls)

FlutterinBantam

soundsham wrote: »

I do too
don't really care 'bout tatoo's really though never really saw it as a problem or noted anywhere in the golfers etiquette

played blarney last week saw a few pairs of jeans out there and and one soccer jersey
have seen jeans out there too before

but the biggest thing for me is how does someone wear them and find it comfortable

Stay away from golf so son.

What you want is a working man's club with barrell arsed punters waddling up to the oche.

You remind me of those posters who think it's cool to post in text speak, which hides their lack of literacy.

All sports have a dress code either official or unofficial, if you don't like golf's code stay away or play in some dump which allows anything.
You will soon find that the course will match the clientele,unkept and shoddy.

Sure as hell it's not the place for me .

scrubber72

going to portmarock for my stag in june and was hoping to wear this (link NSFW)

heavyballs

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Stay away from golf so son.

What you want is a working man's club with barrell arsed punters waddling up to the oche.

You remind me of those posters who think it's cool to post in text speak, which hides their lack of literacy.

All sports have a dress code either official or unofficial, if you don't like golf's code stay away or play in some dump which allows anything.
You will soon find that the course will match the clientele,unkept and shoddy.

Sure as hell it's not the place for me .

sorry bantum i was lashing you as i didn't take time to read your post correctly,i agree with you,if you can't buy it in a golf shop well then don't wear it to the course

FlutterinBantam

You wouldn't get past the Texaco station pilgrim.


Pick some other place.

FlutterinBantam

heavyballs wrote: »

that's the biggest load of sheite i've read on this forum in a while,and the mods can ban me for saying that if they want,but i think when they read your post they'll probably agree with me

my opinion was outlined previously,if you can't buy it in a golf shop well then don't come to the course with your jeans and t shirt etc:mad:

That was kinda my point buddy.


what are you drinking.

heavyballs

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

That was kinda my point buddy.


what are you drinking.

i'm actually on my 9th corona and there's no fing lime left,kids in bed,wife at cinema,HEAVEN:)

FlutterinBantam

:eek:

Next thing you are going to tell me you are guzzling chips and a battered sausage.

ShriekingSheet

What's the big deal? When you play golf, you wear golf clothes. It's been like that for hundreds of years.

Golf clothes, away from the course, are possibly among the gayest garments available to the general public. But on the course, they're "the kit". You just wear them like everyone else.

Why do darts players all wear the same kind of top? Why do you have to wear white at Wimbledon? Why do amateur football teams wear matching tracksuit tops to games? Why is it that 80% of the blokes in astro-park 5-a-sides wear a PL or La Liga team jersey, when you can wear any old t-shirt for a kick-about? Why do you have to wear a tux to your debs? We could all just say fk the tradition and the debs would just be another bleedin' night out with crap beef, and less of a chance of yer hole!

I mean seriously, how difficult is it to just go with the flow?

FlutterinBantam

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

What's the big deal? When you play golf, you wear golf clothes. It's been like that for hundreds of years.

Golf clothes, away from the course, are possibly among the gayest garments available to the general public. But on the course, they're "the kit". You just wear them like everyone else.

Why do darts players all wear the same kind of top? Why do you have to wear white at Wimbledon? Why do amateur football teams wear matching tracksuit tops to games? Why is it that 80% of the blokes in astro-park 5-a-sides wear a PL or La Liga team jersey, when you can wear any old t-shirt for a kick-about? Why do you have to wear a tux to your debs? We could all just say fk the tradition and the debs would just be another bleedin' night out with crap beef, and less of a chance of yer hole!

I mean seriously, how difficult is it to just go with the flow?

Some guys like to think they are rebels SS

Just because it's the done thing they try to buck it.


Excellent post.Says it all.

soundsham

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Stay away from golf so son.

What you want is a working man's club with barrell arsed punters waddling up to the oche.

You remind me of those posters who think it's cool to post in text speak, which hides their lack of literacy.

All sports have a dress code either official or unofficial, if you don't like golf's code stay away or play in some dump which allows anything.
You will soon find that the course will match the clientele,unkept and shoddy.

Sure as hell it's not the place for me .

read my post kiddo,
its what I saw on the course while there

as for darts and the dress sense and eating habits ..........you seem to know the run of it....

FlutterinBantam

soundsham wrote: »

I do too
don't really care 'bout tatoo's really though never really saw it as a problem or noted anywhere in the golfers etiquette

played blarney last week saw a few pairs of jeans out there and and one soccer jersey
have seen jeans out there too before

but the biggest thing for me is how does someone wear them and find it comfortable

Read your post kiddo.

Biggest thing for me is if you want to wear comfortable jeans stay off the golf course.

If you want to wear soccer jerseys, play soccer.

That about sums it up.:cool:

DonkeyPokerTour

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Read your post kiddo.

Biggest thing for me is if you want to wear comfortable jeans stay off the golf course.

If you want to wear soccer jerseys, play soccer.

That about sums it up.:cool:

I think you have misread his post or taken it up wrong. I have gone to the Driving range once in jeans, never been as uncomfortable in my life! So I find wearing slacks much more comfortable.

As for soccer jerseys, I dont like seeing anything other than a golf shirt or a jumper on the golf course, but a soccer jersey is horrible to see on the golf course, equally a rugby shirt or gaa shirt etc.

I dont mind dark jeans, black/navy etc but blue jeans for me are a no no. As I said above I would not wear Jeans but I dont mind others wearing them.

FlutterinBantam

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

I think you have misread his post or taken it up wrong. I have gone to the Driving range once in jeans, never been as uncomfortable in my life! So I find wearing slacks much more comfortable.

As for soccer jerseys, I dont like seeing anything other than a golf shirt or a jumper on the golf course, but a soccer jersey is horrible to see on the golf course, equally a rugby shirt or gaa shirt etc.

I dont mind dark jeans, black/navy etc but blue jeans for me are a no no. As I said above I would not wear Jeans but I dont mind others wearing them.

No sir, I haven't .

OK, point is if there is a dress code in a club , it's there for a reason.

What you like or what I like is irrelevant, it's the club which makes the decision,and if such a code exists, I as a member of that club want to see it enforced across the board.

Individual preferences have nothing to do with it.

It's a corporate decision of the club, and if they have any pride in themselves the will adhere to it's enforcement.

Any club that has any bit of pride in itself will understand that,Soccer, GAA,Hockey,Squash, Tennis.

The alternative is to allow all kinds of everything.

Is that a club you want to join?

I certainly don't.

Sandwlch

All these posts arguing about dress style when one is just worse than the next. None should be seen on a civilised golf course. Golf dress standards have gone down hill so far that it seems you dont even need to wear plus-twos, a jacket, at tie, or a proper cap (certainly not one of those colonial 'baseball' 'caps').

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic-art/623287/15015/Harry-Vardon

DonkeyPokerTour

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

No sir, I haven't .

OK, point is if there is a dress code in a club , it's there for a reason.

What you like or what I like is irrelevant, it's the club which makes the decision,and if such a code exists, I as a member of that club want to see it enforced across the board.

Individual preferences have nothing to do with it.

It's a corporate decision of the club, and if they have any pride in themselves the will adhere to it's enforcement.

Any club that has any bit of pride in itself will understand that,Soccer, GAA,Hockey,Squash, Tennis.

The alternative is to allow all kinds of everything.

Is that a club you want to join?

I certainly don't.

Were both pritty much arguing in favour of the same point, No Jeans or Soccer tops etc on the golf course, and Soundsham is also arguing in favour of no jeans or soccer tops on golf courses but you seem to take offence to the fact that we think we should be comfortable on the golf course. I find wearing slacks and a polo shirt comfotable, as it appears that soundsham does. This seams to offend you in some way based on your posts. Maybe I'm wrong but thats the way its comming accross to me.

Also I never once argued against having a dress code. Our club infact allows jeans on the course and I really wish they didn't. They do allow juveniles to wear tracksuits up until they are 14, but soccer shirts and hoodies are not allowed.

FlutterinBantam

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

Were both pritty much arguing in favour of the same point, No Jeans or Soccer tops etc on the golf course, and Soundsham is also arguing in favour of no jeans or soccer tops on golf courses but you seem to take offence to the fact that we think we should be comfortable on the golf course. I find wearing slacks and a polo shirt comfotable, as it appears that soundsham does. This seams to offend you in some way based on your posts. Maybe I'm wrong but thats the way its comming accross to me.

Also I never once argued against having a dress code. Our club infact allows jeans on the course and I really wish they didn't. They do allow juveniles to wear tracksuits up until they are 14, but soccer shirts and hoodies are not allowed.

I humbly apologise to yourself and Soundsham, I did indeed misinterpret his post.

Can you pass on my apologies to him.

Sorry 'bout that.

:o

soundsham

DonkeyPokerTour wrote: »

I think you have misread his post or taken it up wrong. I have gone to the Driving range once in jeans, never been as uncomfortable in my life! So I find wearing slacks much more comfortable.

As for soccer jerseys, I dont like seeing anything other than a golf shirt or a jumper on the golf course, but a soccer jersey is horrible to see on the golf course, equally a rugby shirt or gaa shirt etc.

I dont mind dark jeans, black/navy etc but blue jeans for me are a no no. As I said above I would not wear Jeans but I dont mind others wearing them.

Thanks the fluttered fellow did miss the point
glad to see you didn't
was pointing out jeans would be uncomfortable that's all
he seems more interested in bringing the dress and eating habits of darts into the post for some reason

Osgoodisgood

Wow, you boys are getting pretty uptight about someone sneaking some 501s into the country club.

Relax. One day the economy will right itself again and the riffraff that so offendeth thyne eyes will slink back to whence it came. The burbs. Until then the clubs need the cash more than they need some fuddy duddys banging on about collared shirts and appropriate tweed. So for now, enjoy it. Treat it like a trip to the zoo and marvel at the sights and sounds that you would otherwise not get to enjoy.

Speak Now

conno16 wrote: »

its up the bloke in the pro shop to lay down the law
clowns turning up in jeans, football jerseys, tracksuits etc should be booted straight back to the car park
I'd find it very distracting playing a round if there were blokes wandering round the course without appropriate golf apparel.
you can buy a full kit including shoes down in aldi/lidl for prob 30 euros if things are tight ffs (actually for that sort of cash they'd prob throw in a set of clubs and 5000 golf balls)

Agreed! Trousers decked out in you're national flag should be a No NO also

FlutterinBantam

Osgoodisgood wrote: »

Wow, you boys are getting pretty uptight about someone sneaking some 501s into the country club.

Relax. One day the economy will right itself again and the riffraff that so offendeth thyne eyes will slink back to whence it came. The burbs. Until then the clubs need the cash more than they need some fuddy duddys banging on about collared shirts and appropriate tweed. So for now, enjoy it. Treat it like a trip to the zoo and marvel at the sights and sounds that you would otherwise not get to enjoy.

Thank God they don't need the money that badly.;)