Hardcore

fred funk }{

I started playing HC over the last few weeks on TDM and I have to say I'm hooked.
It has revitalised the game for me completely. No more spraying people with a whole magazine for them to walk away unscathed. Im loving the step-up in the skill level of players too and players using a lot more strategy.

I went back to the normal TDM for a game the other day and I couldn't finish the game because I thought was so bad.

Anyone else like hardcore?

JamieDev

if u use the silenced M21 or WA200 its class. good for unlocking attachments 4 your gun.

Leucifer

fred funk }{ wrote: »

I started playing HC over the last few weeks on TDM and I have to say I'm hooked.
It has revitalised the game for me completely. No more spraying people with a whole magazine for them to walk away unscathed. Im loving the step-up in the skill level of players too and players using a lot more strategy.

I went back to the normal TDM for a game the other day and I couldn't finish the game because I thought was so bad.

Anyone else like hardcore?

Hardcore HQ and TDM are all I ever play

LD 50

Leucifer wrote: »

Hardcore HQ and TDM are all I ever play

Same here. I hated those first few levels until I unlocked HC. And because everyone doesnt need stopping power, It opens up the perk slots more, especially the second one.

CoZaa

Hardcore is for people who cant kill in normal honestly

Creasy_bear

fred funk }{ wrote: »

I started playing HC over the last few weeks on TDM and I have to say I'm hooked.
It has revitalised the game for me completely. No more spraying people with a whole magazine for them to walk away unscathed. Im loving the step-up in the skill level of players too and players using a lot more strategy.

I went back to the normal TDM for a game the other day and I couldn't finish the game because I thought was so bad.

Anyone else like hardcore?

trust me , you'll love it for a while then you hate it for the campfest it is

Nuri Sahin

I loved it on COD4.

If I weren't playing Sabotage, I'd be playing Hardcore TDM, HQ and SnD.

But I don't enjoy it on MW2. Excessive amount of campers with heartbeat sensors, who do not budge an inch.

Leucifer

Adnan Alves wrote: »

Excessive amount of campers with heartbeat sensors, who do not budge an inch.

Have to agree with you there.

CoZaa

CoZaa wrote: »

Hardcore is for people who cant kill in normal honestly

Core mode is for people who don't know how to stay alive honestly.

Nuri Sahin

CoZaa wrote: »

Hardcore is for people who cant kill in normal honestly

Fascinating input. Thanks for sharing :rolleyes:

CoZaa

You die in one bullet from basically any gun. HOW is ANY skill involved in it? Hardcore is a ****ing campfest full of bad players who think they're good because they play hardcore.

Paparazzo

What's the difference? Just 1 bullet kills?

Nuri Sahin

CoZaa wrote: »

You die in one bullet from basically any gun. HOW is ANY skill involved in it? Hardcore is a ****ing campfest full of bad players who think they're good because they play hardcore.

:rolleyes:

Right, so again...

CoZaa wrote: »

Hardcore is for people who cant kill in normal honestly

That is a load of BS quite frankly. Speaking for myself, I handle myself very effectively be it hardcore or non-hardcore(which I plain 9/10 times in MW2). There are a load of players who are likewise to myself.

There's not much skill involved in COD especially *MW2* IMO when it comes to public matches let alone taking in whether it is hardcore or not.

Good players can step up and be counted consistently in competitive matches, I consider that skill. Perhaps your the type of person who considers no scoping a skill.. perhaps

Nuri Sahin

... and to quote myself

Adnan Alves wrote: »

I loved it on COD4.

If I weren't playing Sabotage, I'd be playing Hardcore TDM, HQ and SnD.

But I don't enjoy it on MW2. Excessive amount of campers with heartbeat sensors, who do not budge an inch.

COD4 there were very few maps where you could camp effectively and obviously no heartbeat sensors made it an enjoyable experience.

MW2 on the other hand, well, there isn't much I can add after what I've previously said above.

BostonB

CoZaa wrote: »

You die in one bullet from basically any gun. HOW is ANY skill involved in it? Hardcore is a ****ing campfest full of bad players who think they're good because they play hardcore.

+1

It makes no sense to me.

CoZaa

Adnan Alves wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Right, so again...



That is a load of BS quite frankly. Speaking for myself, I handle myself very effectively be it hardcore or non-hardcore(which I plain 9/10 times in MW2). There are a load of players who are likewise to myself.

There's not much skill involved in COD especially *MW2* IMO when it comes to public matches let alone taking in whether it is hardcore or not.

Good players can step up and be counted consistently in competitive matches, I consider that skill. Perhaps your the type of person who considers no scoping a skill.. perhaps

I can prove myself in competitive play actually... My team had quite a good GB record.

And yes, noscoping is all skill.

BostonB

From what I see in COD4, noscoping is only possible if you have a good connection and a fast PC and run at a decent res. Impossible if you don't. People are weapon snobs though. Its just a game. Its not all realistic that someone can be as accurate with the AK74 SMG and a ACOG across a map, or that someone can hop 3 feet in the air and noscope someone running. A lot of noscoping is done with Stopping Power and Steady Aim. So its just as valid as someone running around with so called noob weapons. Its a style of play. Paper scissors rock etc.

A lot of the vids of no scoping on the net people are actually missing just the steady aim is what getting the kills. No great thing that. For thoes that do with without the perks, well they can only do it with a good setup and moaning that other people don't is snobbery too. Besides if you are on a half decent team, which provides covering fire, and a bit of smoke, no scoping can be blocked pretty well. Especially as no scopers usually do it at choke points, which is pretty close to camping.

Find a server that plays your kinda game. If your on a server that doesn't (theres a lot of noobs what ever) then its lame to start moaning about it.

Nuri Sahin

CoZaa wrote: »

I can prove myself in competitive play actually... My team had quite a good GB record.

And yes, noscoping is all skill.

GB? I don't rate GB in the slightest what with the vast amount of kiddie clans trolling around that place thinking they are the dogs bollocks when in fact they are nothing more than very easy kills for decent players.

You're orginal point is as I said, BS. I've put across across an argument againist it. Far more people are less effective at Hardcore than standard. That's been clear to see in my time playing COD since COD2, CS and what not.

MW2 is a campfest be it hardcore or not.

I'll leave it at that.

CoZaa

Adnan Alves wrote: »

GB? I don't rate GB in the slightest what with the vast amount of kiddie clans trolling around that place thinking they are the dogs bollocks when in fact they are nothing more than very easy kills for decent players.

You're orginal point is as I said, BS. I've put across across an argument againist it. Far more people are less effective at Hardcore than standard. That's been clear to see in my time playing COD since COD2, CS and what not.

MW2 is a campfest be it hardcore or not.

I'll leave it at that.

Wow, you think your the **** dont... Take your head out of your arse mate.

GB is actually very competetive if you play known teams.

Peace.

hightower1

CoZaa wrote: »

Wow, you think your the **** dont... Take your head out of your arse mate.

GB is actually very competetive if you play known teams.

Peace.

What are you even trying to say?

Its ether and complete lack of understanding of the concept of grammar or punctuation i.e ....

"you think your the **** dont (insert: you)..."

or

"you think your the **** (insert: comma) dont..."

INSULT FAIL

Nuri Sahin

CoZaa wrote: »

Wow, you think your the **** dont... Take your head out of your arse mate.

GB is actually very competetive if you play known teams.

Peace.

:pac:

I could say the same about your earlier comment which is one of the most ridiculous comments I've read on this forum.

I'm an average to above average player at best at competitive level in COD. Nothing more. Nothing less.

The vast majority of people/teams on GB are clueless prepubescent kids running around like headless chickens, from what I've seen in my time on there. I'm not generalizing GB as a whole, never have done that. There are obviously good players but they are in the minority IMHO.

Shammy

Adnan Alves wrote: »

:pac:



The vast majority of people/teams on GB are clueless prepubescent kids running around like headless chickens, from what I've seen in my time on there. I'm not generalizing GB as a whole, never have done that. There are obviously good players but they are in the minority IMHO.

The majority of people/teams are somewhat clueless in gb, of course good players are in the minority, in saying that gb does have the best players and teams wit regards to prize money won etc etc, only problem with gb is that there is so much **** attached to it , which is why there were 2 other gaming sites (european) set up consolegaming and paniczoom , the latter closing down about 2 years ago due to bad admin , but those who did care about it set up their own in play2compete not very active but has some nice tournies every now and again .Console gaming however has flourished , leagues tournaments the works , but like everything that gets big , you get the **** with it.

Back to hardcore , is it skilled is it not ? as the old saying goes ,"season 1 is for pros season 2 for kings and season 3 for noobs"
In season one on gb out of the top 32 teams , 25 or so were hardcore teams but yet not one hardcore team made it to the final(stats might be wrong, memory is fading)
For me i dont like hardcore snd or tdm but hardcore headquarters is a challenge , a great game to play as part of a team and imo a lot harder than ordinary headquarters.
Any way thats my 2 cents.

Creasy_bear

nothing to see here ...........

irish_goat

*bump*


Started playing and enjoying Hardcore TDM there, I like the lack of radar, kill cams et al but just wondering do people think having perks like stopping power or danger close are pointless?

Also, I love the fact that there seems to be a total lack of marathon, lightweight, tactical commando knobs in it.

krudler

irish_goat wrote: »

*bump*


Started playing and enjoying Hardcore TDM there, I like the lack of radar, kill cams et al but just wondering do people think having perks like stopping power or danger close are pointless?

Also, I love the fact that there seems to be a total lack of marathon, lightweight, tactical commando knobs in it.

you dont need those when you spend the entire match lying on the floor with a heartbeat sensor :pac:

played hardcore a few times, absolute campfest.

BostonB

The whole paper, scissor, rock balance is destroyed by hardcore. Especially when the accuracy of weapons is so off, in that weapons that aren't accurate are deadly accurate at silly distances.

krudler

hightower1 wrote: »

What are you even trying to say?

Its ether and complete lack of understanding of the concept of grammar or punctuation i.e ....

"you think your the **** dont (insert: you)..."

or

"you think your the **** (insert: comma) dont..."

INSULT FAIL

Irony that tastes that delicious has to be bad for you :pac:

krudler

I had a quick game of HC TDM there, sweet jesus, thrown into a game with a minute to go and the score was 2200-1800, I got killed from god knows where and while I was waiting to respawn I was flicking through the teammates 1st person views, every one of them laying prone on stairs, in doorways and most of them had heartbeat sensors. Yet they probably think they're the dogs bollocks as they only play hardcore, sad...

Angron

It's true that the runny-stabby class is less common in HC, I put that down to it being easier to kill them. That, and:

krudler wrote: »

you dont need those when you spend the entire match lying on the floor with a heartbeat sensor :pac:

krudler

Denny M wrote: »

It's true that the runny-stabby class is less common in HC, I put that down to it being easier to kill them. That, and:

I hate the commando using knobs as well, but I dont get how laying on the floor in whats supposed to be an action/warfare game is meant to be enjoyable, do these people play God of War and tiptoe around in case Kratos breaks a nail? I much prefer getting stuck in there and causing mayhem, thats why lately I prefer playing Ground Wars, yeah they're full of noobtubing, semtex lobbing and dual shotgunning, but at least they're not dull :pac:

Magill

Hardcore is a pile of ****, at least in TDM/HQ, the only mode that hardcore should be used in is SnD(Tho i'd rather it have the normal health with all the other features). TDM is nothing but a campfest as others here have said, totally defeats the point of Death match, which is suppose to be a run and gun mode. It diffo takes a different set of skills than the main game, the most important being the ability to camp like a little twat.

Angron

krudler wrote: »

I hate the commando using knobs as well, but I dont get how laying on the floor in whats supposed to be an action/warfare game is meant to be enjoyable, do these people play God of War and tiptoe around in case Kratos breaks a nail? I much prefer getting stuck in there and causing mayhem, thats why lately I prefer playing Ground Wars, yeah they're full of noobtubing, semtex lobbing and dual shotgunning, but at least they're not dull :pac:

Indeed. It's beyond me how getting maybe 5 kills cause you are afraid to run around a bit is a good game. I still loathingly remember a game where there was 2 people on either team actually doing anything, the rest were just waiting.. Forever waiting.

krudler

Denny M wrote: »

Indeed. It's beyond me how getting maybe 5 kills cause you are afraid to run around a bit is a good game. I still loathingly remember a game where there was 2 people on either team actually doing anything, the rest were just waiting.. Forever waiting.

Yup, any time I've ever played it its just guys sat somewhere hoping someone runs by, I kept getting killed by a guy who was actually lying prone on the window frame of the high window near the escalators on Terminal, couldnt figure out where he was till I passed under him, got him back then, I think after 10 minutes the score wasnt even in the 2000's, pathetic.

Angron

Actually.. Has anyone been in a game of Hardcore that went to the points finish? I don't play it too often, and every time it's ended by the time limit.

liah

Where the hell are you guys playing that you're running into so many heartbeat sensors? I only ever play Hardcore these days and I encounter maybe one heartbeat sensor a session, and a session is usually about 6-10 completely separate games.

I don't get it. How am I having such a different experience to everyone else?

I play HQ Ricochet. Games always go to points finish, it's very rare that I see time limit..

Angron

liah wrote: »

Where the hell are you guys playing that you're running into so many heartbeat sensors? I only ever play Hardcore these days and I encounter maybe one heartbeat sensor a session, and a session is usually about 6-10 completely separate games.

I don't get it. How am I having such a different experience to everyone else?

Luck. You're very lucky. A majority of hc games I get (when I play) are camping snorefests. It's why I prefer regular.

krudler

Denny M wrote: »

Luck. You're very lucky. A majority of hc games I get (when I play) are camping snorefests. It's why I prefer regular.

yup, I like it when people actually, y'know, move around and shoot at each other.

liah

But which HC mode are you playing? I never play TDM or SnD, only HQ. I can definitely understand it in the first two. I never really see it in HQ.. ever. I play a fairly good amount of it, too..

We're not counting Wasteland though, right? Pure snipe fest. Love it though (I don't snipe.)

gimli2112

I generally just play core TDM and s&d. I played a small bit of HC TDM but just found it to be a campfest. Maybe it was just bad luck but I enjoy the core games and think they offer different gameplay.

Also the lack of radar in HC left me disoriented to the point that I wonder how I get around without it in real life.

I might try HC again. Any other recommended game types? Sabotage and CTF leave me a little underwhelmed but never really tried HQ.

anonymous_joe

HC's a great idea, but it does suffer from camping. To the extent that it's unplayable.

Also, I've a really bad habit of killing team mates carelessly.

gimli2112

anonymous_joe wrote: »

HC's a great idea, but it does suffer from camping. To the extent that it's unplayable.

Also, I've a really bad habit of killing team mates carelessly.

That reminds me.

Tip for generating hate mail.
- Enter HC TDM
- Equip RPG
- Spawn, aim at floor and fire

anonymous_joe

gimli2112 wrote: »

That reminds me.

Tip for generating hate mail.
- Enter HC TDM
- Equip RPG
- Spawn, aim at floor and fire

Ouch.

BostonB

anonymous_joe wrote: »

HC's a great idea, but it does suffer from camping. To the extent that it's unplayable.

Also, I've a really bad habit of killing team mates carelessly.

With my lag I tend to spray a little. Which doesn't go down well.

Nuri Sahin

gimli2112 wrote: »

That reminds me.

Tip for generating hate mail.
- Enter HC TDM
- Equip RPG
- Spawn, aim at floor and fire

Very silly.. but very funny hearing the reactions.

Me and a mate used to go into HSnD in COD4 and made sure we took out the entire team. Oh........... the hate mail we got.

Walsh475

krudler wrote: »

you dont need those when you spend the entire match lying on the floor with a heartbeat sensor :pac:

played hardcore a few times, absolute campfest.

not if you use ninja and lob a nade goodbye campers

i mainly just use hardcore for leveling up my semi auto snipers

raheny red

liah wrote: »

Where the hell are you guys playing that you're running into so many heartbeat sensors? I only ever play Hardcore these days and I encounter maybe one heartbeat sensor a session, and a session is usually about 6-10 completely separate games.

I don't get it. How am I having such a different experience to everyone else?

I play HQ Ricochet. Games always go to points finish, it's very rare that I see time limit..

I'm the same.

Angron

Just saw that it was HQ liah was talking about before.. Yeah, HQ would probably go to points, but I've mainly played HC on TDM

Walsh475

i think heatbeat sensor is a waste of an attachment for hardcore as most people i find use ninja but you will get someone using commando

liah

Start playing HQ then, guys! Much better experience, imo.

Doritogasm

Hardcore TDM or HQ are the only game modes I play. And I think the Heartbeat sensor is useless on hardcore

sierra117x

anonymous_joe wrote: »

HC's a great idea, but it does suffer from camping. To the extent that it's unplayable.

Also, I've a really bad habit of killing team mates carelessly.

oh yeah try lobbing a nade into a building that was just cleared by your team clocking one guy in the head and exploding and killing two others . tripple fail :P