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the afterhours rape poll

  • 15-04-2010 1:44pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭


    in cases of rape which of these , you can choose a couple , do you agree with

    which of the following do you agree with 1115 votes

    the victim is justified in killing to prevent rape, ie in fear of being raped
    0% 0 votes
    the victim is justified in killing to end rape,ie during the rape
    11% 127 votes
    the victim is not justified in killing to prevent rape
    20% 225 votes
    the victim is not justified to prevent rape
    4% 51 votes
    the victim is not justified in killing to end rape
    1% 22 votes
    the state should kill rapists
    2% 30 votes
    the state should jail rapists for life
    5% 59 votes
    a system where rapists and child abusers get lighter sentences than dealers is fine
    14% 160 votes
    a system where rapists and child abusers get lighter sentences than dealers is crazy
    1% 18 votes
    it's understandable when the victim/victims people kill the rapist, should have a lighter sentence
    18% 207 votes
    it is not understandable when the victim or the victims people kill the rapist after the fact
    14% 166 votes
    atari jaguar
    4% 50 votes


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    No poll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    what poll?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Sykk


    Did you mean rape someone with a poll?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,041 ✭✭✭stevoman


    Probobly Oil Seed Rape, its the easiest to cultivate.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    THe After Hours Rape Poll with no poll.

    PFFT!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Fago! wrote: »
    THe After Hours Rape Poll with no poll.

    PFFT!

    He wasn't able to get it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    polling takes time


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Worst. Poll. Ever.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    I keep my rape poll in my pants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭nucking futs


    Did you deliberately make it as confusing as possible? The only one I knew to click was Atari Jaguar


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,647 ✭✭✭✭Fago!


    bonerm wrote: »
    I keep my rape poll in my pants.

    I keep mine in yore ma against her will!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    I don't wanna be involved in an AH gang rape of any Polish people.



    ... Unless they're hot.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,488 ✭✭✭pikachucheeks


    Poll = :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Some of the suggestions are based on what happnes before the rape. Some during, and some are to do with sentencing. Some people may agree with multiple suggestions. Some suggestions are completely irrelevant. Poll is a massive fail.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭Voodu Child


    This poll doesnt not make my head not hurt :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    As much as I deplore sexual violence my opinion is that killing is never right. Ever. The only case where it's understandable is if there is a direct threat to your life (when I say direct I don't mean the person could potentially threaten you I mean they are actively holding a knife or gun to your throat or have indicated that they will kill you).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    As much as I deplore sexual violence my opinion is that killing is never right. Ever. The only case where it's understandable is if there is a direct threat to your life (when I say direct I don't mean the person could potentially threaten you I mean they are actively holding a knife or gun to your throat or have indicated that they will kill you).


    what if the victim clobbered the rapist over the head, to try and stop them, and the rapist died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    As much as I deplore sexual violence my opinion is that killing is never right. Ever. The only case where it's understandable is if there is a direct threat to your life (when I say direct I don't mean the person could potentially threaten you I mean they are actively holding a knife or gun to your throat or have indicated that they will kill you).

    Well, I doubt if you were about to be raped, you'd be thinking, "I better just lie here and take it, 'cause there probably isn't a direct threat to my life and there's no knife and killing is never right".

    Of course killing isn't right. That's obvious. However, when a person is attacked, adrenaline is produced, fight or flight and I think a natural reaction is just to protect yourself. Killing could just be accidental in order to protect yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    As much as I deplore sexual violence my opinion is that killing is never right. Ever. The only case where it's understandable is if there is a direct threat to your life (when I say direct I don't mean the person could potentially threaten you I mean they are actively holding a knife or gun to your throat or have indicated that they will kill you).


    I disagree. I would rather see a rapist dead than a victim raped. If you intentionally set out to ruin another persons life be it by rape, murder or other means then you forfeit your own, either by imprisonment or death and if death can stop it from ever happening then that is better than them being locked up after it happening.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,094 ✭✭✭jd007


    Poll = :confused:

    Just select all of them, much easier that way!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Did someone say rape?
    One sec and I get my shovel and rape hat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,328 ✭✭✭cafecolour


    Good god, it's rape thread day on after hours.

    I sentence everyone to watching 'Extremities'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    It's far too complex a question to be summed up in a few neat multiple choice options. I mean, how do you define the 'fear of being raped'? A women walking down a deserted street with a man walking closely behind her?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭AssaultedPeanut


    Agreed. The poll is very difficult to decipher

    We've all been rape-rolled


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    The only problem I have with rape is say when an 18 year old boy is shagging his 16 or 17 year old girlfriend and this is considered rape.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,006 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    As much as I deplore sexual violence my opinion is that killing is never right. Ever. The only case where it's understandable is if there is a direct threat to your life (when I say direct I don't mean the person could potentially threaten you I mean they are actively holding a knife or gun to your throat or have indicated that they will kill you).

    Way to contradict yourself. :rolleyes:
    Stinicker wrote: »
    The only problem I have with rape is say when an 18 year old boy is shagging his 16 or 17 year old girlfriend and this is considered rape.

    That's your only problem with rape? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    Stinicker wrote: »
    The only problem I have with rape is say when an 18 year old boy is shagging his 16 or 17 year old girlfriend and this is considered rape.

    But otherwise its ok?

    How very Catholic of you!:p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Tigger wrote: »
    it is not understandable when the victim or the victims people kill the rapist after the fact

    What the fuck is this shite.
    Talk about double-speak.
    As soon as the ashes lift Tigger, get on the first plane to the European parliament.............. they need your skills over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,602 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Atari Jagurape FTW!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    And the award for most confusing poll ever goes to...........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,255 ✭✭✭✭The_Minister


    mikom wrote: »
    What the fuck is this shite.
    Talk about double-speak.
    As soon as the ashes lift Tigger, get on the first plane to the European parliament.............. they need your skills over there.

    What's your problem?

    He said, plainly, that once the rape has concluded, and the raist has gone away, the victim, or their family, are not allowed to seek the rapist out and kill him/her.

    Which is not a contraversial statment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭testicle


    I agreed with them all except Atari Jaguar.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,102 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    But otherwise its ok?

    How very Catholic of you!:p

    You know what I mean, Rape is often thrown at men, even after consensual intercourse and then it becomes quite troublesome for the man.

    Rape should be punished harshly all the same though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    THE young woman who made a false sex assault claim against a Co Galway man is unlikely to face prosecution.
    Garda sources indicated yesterday that Una Hardester, now 22, would not be asked to return to Ireland from the US to answer for her actions a dozen years ago.
    She had earlier told the Irish Independent that she had expected to be arrested and charged with making a false statement or wasting garda time.
    Ms Hardester said she was surprised that, to date, she had not been asked to fly back to Ireland to account for her actions. But she insisted that she would return voluntarily if called upon by gardai to do so.
    But garda sources confirmed to the Irish Independent yesterday that, because of her age at the time of the allegations, it was 'as good as certain' that she would not be asked to return now to face prosecution.
    As a 10-year-old living in Claddaghduff in west Galway, she had alleged that her neighbour Feichin Hannon had sexually assaulted her. He was found guilty by a jury and received a four-year suspended sentence in 1999.
    On Monday, Mr Hannon (34) had his conviction declared a miscarriage of justice as a result of Ms Hardester admitting she had made up the story that she had been sexually assaulted.
    Yesterday Mr Hannon said he found it very hard to understand why Una Hardester had made the allegations against him. Other than the fact that there was animosity between the two families, he had no idea why she had accused him.
    And he revealed that not a single person in authority had approached him with a sympathetic word or an apology for what had happened.
    Said Mr Hannon: "No state body, nobody has contacted me. I feel let down. I have had no contact with her."
    Mr Hannon admitted that he had mixed emotions about Ms Hardester since she came clean about the story after saying that she had cancerous guilt over the case. He told 'The Gerry Ryan Show': "I am disgusted and disturbed she was able to come up with these allegations about me in the first place. At the same time, I suppose she had the good grace to come back and sort it out.
    "I thank her for that. I suppose a part of me forgives her, but part of me can't understand why either."
    He added: "I am happy she came back. It took a lot of courage. She could have easily left me the way I was."
    The scandal surrounding the case had haunted him for the last 12 years and ruined his life, he said. "There are no words to describe how this affected me. I'm just a shadow of a man. Even now that it's all sorted and everything, I don't feel I'll ever feel right.
    "My own family believed me and stood by me 100pc. After the case, I just didn't know what to do or how to concentrate on anything after that.

    Source


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Fago! wrote: »
    I keep mine in yore ma against her will!

    Bad move on yore part.. She's the A to Z of VD.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,262 ✭✭✭✭Joey the lips


    Did you notice you have the same line twice, the same line twice. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    TheZohan wrote: »

    i think i remember hearing about that.

    does that man get any compensation from the state? i know nothing can compensate the undoubtedly horrendous life he must have lived, but i think an acknowledgment from the state would be good.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    havent read the rest of the thread yet...

    IMHO, rapists should be locked up and key thrown away.

    I don't agree that a victim should have a right to kill the rapist to evade, but i do agree with fighting back to a degree that the rapist is no longer a threat. If the rapist is killed, the victim should be given a leniant manslaughter charge due to stress of the circumstances and being provoked. The situation the victim was under does need to be taken into account, but should not be used as a permissible excuse...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,745 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    BUT if wimmin folk just killed any men folk that came within 2 foot then there will be no more rape :confused: Leaving just me and my 3 foot mickey:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    Sanjuro wrote: »
    Some of the suggestions are based on what happnes before the rape. Some during, and some are to do with sentencing. Some people may agree with multiple suggestions. Some suggestions are completely irrelevant. Poll is a massive fail.


    its a multi answer poll

    if you agree witha sentence then tick if not don't tick
    i see trends appearing


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    TheZohan wrote: »

    One of the problems here is the sentencing of rapists. While I realise that the man in this case was ultimately innocent I was surprised that he was only given a suspended sentence. In cases like this justice needs to be seen to be done. Potentially rape could be classed as a threat upon the life of the person. What are the the chances that the rapist will transmit the HIV virus to the victim? In that case it would be the exact same as putting a loaded gun to their head. I think every case should be treated individually with so minimum sentencing requiremnets. However in some cases the death penalty is justified but not in all of them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Mister men


    What 10 people voted for this option? >>>> a system where rapists and child abusers get lighter sentences than dealers is fine.
    Jesus wept.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 17,137 Mod ✭✭✭✭cherryghost


    some disturbing opinions there tbh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭donfers


    poll options = written by a 10 year old who has watched too much Thelma & Louise and thinks the populist catch-cries of "kill, kill" will stir the frenzied mob

    No need, they're already as simple as you

    and for the above reasons I'm out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭AssaultedPeanut


    This option...

    "the victim is not justified to prevent rape "


    Oh you want to rape me is it *sigh* :rolleyes: go on then

    :confused:






    I'm aware that that's not really rape then, it's a paradox I guess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,971 ✭✭✭we'llallhavetea_old


    This option...

    "the victim is not justified to prevent rape "


    Oh you want to rape me is it *sigh* :rolleyes: go on then

    :confused:






    I'm aware that that's not really rape then, it's a paradox I guess

    i lol'd :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    donfers wrote: »
    poll options = written by a 10 year old who has watched too much Thelma & Louise and thinks the populist catch-cries of "kill, kill" will stir the frenzied mob

    No need, they're already as simple as you

    and for the above reasons I'm out


    acually i'm 35 and was just wonderig

    but i'm glad you out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,705 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    the poll options are not in the order i wrote them
    they are in some other order
    so some made sense as the opposites of the previous but now don't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,708 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    The state should castrate serial rapists


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    And I thought my dinner was tasteless.


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