Ball dress code?

Tar.Aldarion

Do you need a tux? Will a black suit do, will a grey one? I like the grey one..



Thanks!

Sid_Justice

this has come up a few times on the forum, there are some extensive answers to this in the databank already if you want to check.

to the best of my recollection, the ball is officially formal and not black tie although 99% of the guys wear dress suits (tuxedos). you won't be refused entry dressed in a suit (I've never heard of anyone actually been refused for not being appropriately dressed). I've seen plenty of guys not in tuxs or suits, but I don't know if they actually went through the front arch to get in.

is it the suit hire putting you off? or just don't like the look of a tux? if you don't mind being the guy that's dressed significantly differently to the other 99 guys wear the grey one.

of course, i recommend you get a tux, there aren't a whole lot of opportunities to wear them and most guys look great in them.

Kwekubo

Technically speaking, suits are actually informal wear and the minimum formal attire for men is black tie (aka dinner jacket / tuxedo). You won't be refused entry with a grey suit (and we wouldn't want to stop you expressing yourself, Tar!), but I personally think it looks great for everyone to be decked out to the nines in black tie.

shakencat

stone grey...


youve got me lovestoned...

Time Magazine

Kwekubo wrote: »

I personally think it looks great for everyone to be decked out to the nines in black tie.

Agreed. Nonetheless, formal standards for attire are such a load of ****.

PapaRatzi

Why anyone would turn up at a party that clearly specifies black tie looking like he's just stepped out of the office is beyond me.

It's things like this that have made Trinity Ball nothing more than a glorified piss up for people in their 20s who still behave like they're teenagers. I would argue that the MCD-run Trinity Ball has a negative impact on the College rather than a positive one.

It's time to grow up. Go out and buy yourself a dinner jacket.

PapaRatzi

Time Magazine wrote: »

Agreed. Nonetheless, formal standards for attire are such a load of ****.

How very egalitarian of you.

A Neurotic

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Why anyone would turn up at a party that clearly specifies black tie looking like he's just stepped out of the office is beyond me.

It's things like this that have made Trinity Ball nothing more than a glorified piss up for people in their 20s who still behave like they're teenagers. I would argue that the MCD-run Trinity Ball has a negative impact on the College rather than a positive one.

It's time to grow up. Go out and buy yourself a dinner jacket.

PapaRatzi wrote: »

How very egalitarian of you.

It's been done.

Gileadi

OP: I wore a grey suit last year and had no issues (got a ticket at the last min)

El Siglo

Tar, wear this tux to the ball and get someone else to wear this. It'll be totally worth it. If all else fails, this will sort ya!:D

PapaRatzi

Gileadi wrote: »

OP: I wore a grey suit last year and had no issues (got a ticket at the last min)

Girls love men in wrinkly M&S business suits.

jimi_t2

PapaRatzi wrote: »

It's things like this that have made Trinity Ball nothing more than a glorified piss up for people in their 20s who still behave like they're teenagers.

Thats a load of crap. Most college ''balls'' are black tie, as are your debs, and this illicits the same emotional response of ''one last piss-up''. 4k drunken eejits in tuxes are still 4k drunken eejits.

(as for the whole suit thing, I'll be wearing a very dapper white tux jacket. Take that society)

El Siglo

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Girls love men in wrinkly M&S business suits.

They also love pompous trolls in the TCD forum.:rolleyes:

PapaRatzi

jimi_t2 wrote: »

(as for the whole suit thing, I'll be wearing a very dapper white tux jacket. Take that society)

A white dinner jacket? Is Trinity now in the sub-tropics? Will the ball be on a cruise ship this year? Are you going to play the piano for us?

PapaRatzi

El Siglo wrote: »

They also love pompous trolls in the TCD forum.:rolleyes:

I know how to dress correctly. You obviously don't.

just-joe

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Why anyone would turn up at a party that clearly specifies black tie looking like he's just stepped out of the office is beyond me.

Maybe cos its cheaper than to buy/rent a tux for one night, when no one even cares what you look like?!

PapaRatzi wrote: »

It's things like this that have made Trinity Ball nothing more than a glorified piss up for people in their 20s who still behave like they're teenagers.

Why should it be any more than that? What exactly do you expect it to be? If they don't even serve food then its never gonna be a "ball" anyways. So the format/cost etc of the ball isn't perfect, who cares, just chill out and enjoy it!

Gileadi

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Girls love men in wrinkly M&S business suits.

Cause im sure your wading through throngs of women every day of the week...

Time Magazine

PapaRatzi wrote: »

It's time to grow up. Go out and buy yourself a dinner jacket.

It's time to do what people tell you to do. Heaven forbid students choosing to do what they enjoy doing! Conform with the tradition or this institution will lose all its appeal.

Speaking of which PapaRatzi, it's tradition on this website to shun traditionalist viewpoints.

Groinshot

just-joe wrote: »

Maybe cos its cheaper than to buy/rent a tux for one night, when no one even cares what you look like?!

You might aswell buy the tux, I got one in black tie in december, for 99 euro, cant go too wrong with that, thats as expensive as hiring one. Besides, at 78 euro a ticket, you might aswell make an effort-its not like you don't know that its formal dress.

PapaRatzi

I can't stand the word "tuxedo". Even worse is the word "tux". That's what Americans wear on prom night.

Black tie, or evening wear, is a well-defined dress code. Attempting to "dress down" (no, you are not being Avant-garde even if you like to think you are) at a black tie event is moronic. It's no surprise that these types tend not to get invited to formal events. And it's no wonder they don't see the need to own a black tie outfit.

Craguls

Not going in a sexy cocktail dress? Your forum will be disappointed.

Tar.Aldarion

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Why anyone would turn up at a party that clearly specifies black tie looking like he's just stepped out of the office is beyond me.

It is due to being on a tight budget, it is free to wear one of my suits whereas cost money to rent a tux. I can wear an expensive suit to make you happier, but I'll probably want to save that for a more formal occasion.

PapaRatzi wrote: »

Girls love men in wrinkly M&S business suits.

It won't matter what I wear in this regard. Look at the e-penis.

shakencat wrote: »

stone grey...


youve got me lovestoned...

Want to come to the ball with me?

PapaRatzi

http://www.ucdball.ie/ is on next week.

Tar.Aldarion

I don't own any tracksuits, hf though.

Thirdfox

Pick up a tux next time you're in Asia

Got a tailor made tux and dress shirt for 76 euro a few years ago - that's cheaper than renting one over here... though a plane ticket might set you back 600 euro though (just get 10 tuxes :P )

PapaRatzi

Thirdfox wrote: »

Pick up a tux next time you're in Asia

Got a tailor made tux and dress shirt for 76 euro a few years ago - that's cheaper than renting one over here... though a plane ticket might set you back 600 euro though (just get 10 tuxes :P )

Indeed. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg to dress properly. In fact, if you want to look like these guys, you'd want to have deep pockets:

Brian

What is your opinion on shorts, PapaRatzi?

Thirdfox

Baza210 wrote: »

What is your opinion on shorts, PapaRatzi?

Do girls wear high heels on the cobblestones? Sounds like a recipe for sprained ankles (and lawsuit clients for law students ) I noticed them repainting the steps with new bright white coatings...might had legalities in mind :pac:

Sid_Justice

Of course all the girls were sensible footwear to the ball.


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Tar.Aldarion

And wrap up warm with inaccessible clothing, will be a crap night. I'm suiting it up, yeahhh.

PapaRatzi

Baza210 wrote: »

What is your opinion on shorts, PapaRatzi?

You should ask these guys:



Or maybe it's the redneck prom you're after...

Thirdfox

I believe Channel 4 did a programme on traveller weddings - I didn't get a chance to see it though - though seriously, it was supposed to be a really good insight into how the vast majority of law abiding travellers aren't like what the general public portrays them as.

Tar.Aldarion

I'm ready.

SherryD

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm ready.

Who is THAT?! :eek:

Tar.Aldarion

Me DUH

SherryD

Hi there, need a date?

PapaRatzi

Examples of correct dress:







Simple elegance. (it looks simple, but it's very easy to get wrong - one spur of the moment urge to go for the polka dot clip-on bow-tie that your girlfriend pointed out off the shelf and you're ruined...)

Tar.Aldarion

Don't worry PapaRatzi, I have backup incase my suit gets dirty, what with sherryD clawing at it.

Thirdfox

And I look 12



:P

PapaRatzi

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

I'm ready.

There is a very good reason that black tie affairs are usually associated with milestone events such as the opening of a major theatrical production or the presentation of achievement awards: the formal dress code invites attire that aptly reflects the uniqueness and distinction of the occasion. Therefore what a person decides to wear to a black tie event, opening night or formal cruise dinner cannot be viewed solely as a personal choice of wardrobe but as a contribution to the evening itself.

Consequently, a man has two options when attending a black tie event: he can either wear a suit and subsequently lower the occasion’s standards or he can opt for formal wear and raise the bar. There is no middle ground.

SherryD

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Don't worry PapaRatzi, I have backup incase my suit gets dirty, what with sherryD clawing at it.

You may need it sir!

Any idea how strict it is for girls? Last few times I went I did go all out but this year I'm just not bothered.

Tar.Aldarion

Although I do have this...



Oh the choices! Something has to keep me entertained(the bands won't)

PapaRatzi

Thirdfox wrote: »

And I look 12



:P

6.5/10. No waist covering. Shirt sleeves not long enough (although I'll forigive his parents for buying him a jacket just a little too long that he'll grow into). Also, I like to see a nice satin or silk pocket square. Don't like the white buttons or the wing-tip collar on the shirt, but you'd get away with that. Nice shawl lapel jacket. I prefer pleated trousers to flat-fronted ones.

Good effort, he'd be in the top 5% of T Ball goers with that: at home in a sea of mediocrity.

Tar.Aldarion

SherryD wrote: »

You may need it sir!

Any idea how strict it is for girls? Last few times I went I did go all out but this year I'm just not bothered.

No idea, I've not been, I imagine any aul thing will do though. Sure ya know yerself.

Haven't worn a tux in 5 years, can't justify it with bills atm, so c'est la vie. I would prefer to wear one but I might as well get use out of the grand I paid for a suit, that I never wear.

SherryD

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

No idea, I've not been, I imagine any aul thing will do though. Sure ya know yerself.

Haven't worn a tux in 5 years, can't justify it with bills atm, so c'est la vie. I would prefer to wear one but I might as well get use out of the grand I paid for a suit, that I never wear.

All girls I know are in the same boat. We'd prefer to buy a nice new ball dress and accessories but can't really justify it right now. From previous experience you end up lying in the grass and getting filthy anyway.

Was thinking of wearing flat boots...is there a chance I'd actually be refused entry?

Tar.Aldarion

I doubt it, couldn't you say something about the cobbles and suing then?

you end up lying in the grass and getting filthy anyway

Hi!

SherryD

I meant from exhaustion and there being no seats!!

(people lean against the walls for that)

Thirdfox

Tar.Aldarion wrote: »

Hi!

You read my mind good sir.

And 7 out of 10... that's a 1.1 in my eyes (final year law student who should either a) be studying or b) be asleep).

SherryD

Page 17 says it all http://www.trinitynews.ie/index.php/news/college/764-ball-guide

Tar.Aldarion

SherryD wrote: »

I meant from exhaustion and there being no seats!!

(people lean against the walls for that)

Oh what wall? Show me the walls...there is a wall? Where?
Purely for research you understand.

I haven't been in Trinity apart from this year, the layout looks fairly odd.
I'm also surprised that you don't get a meal and at the bands.

Thirdfox wrote: »

You read my mind good sir.

And 7 out of 10... that's a 1.1 in my eyes (final year law student who should either a) be studying or b) be asleep).

yeah it's all study these days, or sleep. Ball will be a good break from 1937.

Tar.Aldarion

SherryD wrote: »

Page 17 says it all http://www.trinitynews.ie/index.php/news/college/764-ball-guide

The feminism/random guy page?