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Was Liam Lawlor assassinated?

  • 11-04-2010 6:49pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭


    I've searched the internet and have not found one mention of this possibility?

    It seems quite plausible to me. I think the comment, "if I'm going down, I'm taking you lot with me," stands out for me, and is referred to in this article - http://www.independent.ie/national-news/defiant-liam-aims-a-loose-cannon-at-leinster-house-357593.html

    There's a time and a place for everything - Liam's time, and of course, the place, Russia.
    The reporting of the incident in the Irish media was also very peculiar, (sixteen year old prostitute) and then the large out of court settlement.

    François Mitterrand (deceased President of France) once said "We do not assassinate our politicians anymore, they die in accidents."

    Thoughts and opinions welcome.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Selected wrote: »
    I've searched the internet and have not found one mention of this possibility?

    It seems quite plausible to me. I think the comment, "if I'm going down, I'm taking you lot with me," stands out for me, and is referred to in this article - http://www.independent.ie/national-news/defiant-liam-aims-a-loose-cannon-at-leinster-house-357593.html

    There's a time and a place for everything - Liam's time, and of course, the place, Russia.
    The reporting of the incident in the Irish media was also very peculiar, (sixteen year old prostitute) and then the large out of court settlement.

    François Mitterrand (deceased President of France) once said "We do not assassinate our politicians anymore, they die in accidents."

    Thoughts and opinions welcome.

    The first thing i thought when i heard about the crash in Moscow was that it was a hit.There is no doubt that he was going to sing like a canary but to what extent? Was he going to tell a few tales about his Fianna Fail buddies or was he rattling the cages of a more dangerous animal? Liam Lawlor was a member of the globalist eltite who attended the Trilaterals and Bilderbergs he would have possesed some dangerous informtion on the extent of Irish politicians influence in these areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Id rather have heard his accusations than a summary of his physical appearance :(
    What are the news writers like these days or is there a gagging order on what was said inside?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭heffomike54


    Selected wrote: »
    I've searched the internet and have not found one mention of this possibility?

    It seems quite plausible to me. I think the comment, "if I'm going down, I'm taking you lot with me," stands out for me, and is referred to in this article - http://www.independent.ie/national-news/defiant-liam-aims-a-loose-cannon-at-leinster-house-357593.html

    There's a time and a place for everything - Liam's time, and of course, the place, Russia.
    The reporting of the incident in the Irish media was also very peculiar, (sixteen year old prostitute) and then the large out of court settlement.

    François Mitterrand (deceased President of France) once said "We do not assassinate our politicians anymore, they die in accidents."

    Thoughts and opinions welcome.

    When I heard about his death, I instantly thought it sounded so fishy! But find it hard to believe, that anyone in Ireland would have the ability to organise something like this, especially in Russia but I guess stranger things have happened.:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    You could look into Anglo Adriatic investments, Kosta Trebicka and Dan De Marino. Alledgedly Lawlor was involved with these two and this investment company.

    As far as I know Trebicka died in a shooting accident.

    Anglo Adriatic used "privatisation vouchers" given to Albanian workers after the fall of the soviet union. They lost the lot when Anglo Adriatic collapsed.

    Anglo Adriatic was funded by anti Lisbon darling Declan Ganley and the Rothschild Emerging Markets Fund. :rolleyes: European Elites anyone?

    However given that the driver of the car died as well as Lawlor and their interpreter survived, it has none of the hallmarks one would imagine a hit to have.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    studiorat wrote: »
    However given that the driver of the car died as well as Lawlor and their interpreter survived, it has none of the hallmarks one would imagine a hit to have.

    i don't understand this part? what would be the hallmarks of a hit car crash? driver would survive?
    i don't see how this stuff makes a hit theoretically less likely. i'm assuming nobody in the car knows that it's destined to crash, i.e. that it has either been rigged before they get in or that a second vehicle or some other obstruction will be used to cause a collision? just theorising.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    i don't understand this part? what would be the hallmarks of a hit car crash? driver would survive?
    i don't see how this stuff makes a hit theoretically less likely. i'm assuming nobody in the car knows that it's destined to crash, i.e. that it has either been rigged before they get in or that a second vehicle or some other obstruction will be used to cause a collision? just theorising.

    Theoretically speaking. A car accident isn't exactly a good way to rig an assisination. If there were three in that car, one survived. The survivor could have just as easily been the intended target no?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 971 ✭✭✭CoalBucket


    Jim Corr probably thinks so :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    CoalBucket wrote: »
    Jim Corr probably thinks so :)

    Would that be the real Jim Corr or the Lizard imposter who runs all those CT websites?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    studiorat wrote: »
    Theoretically speaking. A car accident isn't exactly a good way to rig an assisination. If there were three in that car, one survived. The survivor could have just as easily been the intended target no?

    Statistics show that the driver mostly survives the car accident.Its probably due to the fact that on impact the natural instinct of the driver is to swerve the car in their favour with the passenger side bearing the brunt of the crash.Of course the purpose of doing an assasination this way was to make it look like an accident.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Selected


    Bilderberger attendant + corrupt politician (as if there's any other kind) + self righteous, indignant and insolent nature = "Tell the trick to bite his dick off, by accident."


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Selected


    studiorat wrote: »
    Theoretically speaking. A car accident isn't exactly a good way to rig an assisination.

    I honestly don't know where to begin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    How hard is it to find a body double in Russia? I reckon Liamo is alive and well and living in USA...

    Not your ornery onager



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 489 ✭✭Trashbat


    To be honest I cant really see how Lawler would be "Important enough" for it to be a hit.

    While he could well expose alot of Irish corruption, thats not exactly something politicians need to fear, considering our media is colluding with the political elites and there is no accountability here.

    Can't think of anything in particular, but surely there would me far more credible whistle blowers that haven't been in danger?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 215 ✭✭zacmorris


    He was a memebr of the Bilderberg group nd the Trilateral Commission.
    So, it kind of opens up speculation on the true cause of his death.
    What did he know, and who didn't want him to speak about it!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Yeah, A Lot of people found it rather suspicious, but the media reporting of it afterwards was what raised my curiosity, I presume that he had to be silenced for the Good of the Party, It was at the height of the Shady dealings that ultimatley F*cked the nation. also thew Almost instant Smear Campaign that was launched against him re the 16yr old Prostitute smacks of deliberate Misdirection.

    Either there have been a hell of a lot of coincidental Car crashes or its the NWO's preferred method of silencing people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat



    Either there have been a hell of a lot of coincidental Car crashes or its the NWO's preferred method of silencing people.

    Why would the NWO want to kill of a 2-bit ex-Fianna Fail councillor?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Lawlor was a Fiannna fail man for a long time, he had his finger in many pies, any one of those could have been enough to have him killed, Wasnt he supposed to go in front of one of the tribunals before his untimley demise, maybe he was gonna spill the beans on the rest of them to save his own skin, do we know the full extenty of his russian dealings???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Lawlor was a Fiannna fail man for a long time, he had his finger in many pies, any one of those could have been enough to have him killed,

    Come on, have him killed by who? The Drumcondra mafia?
    Wasnt he supposed to go in front of one of the tribunals before his untimley demise, maybe he was gonna spill the beans on the rest of them to save his own skin, do we know the full extenty of his russian dealings???

    His business partner in Anglo Adratiac was killed in a shooting accident, the car crash just doesn't add up. It's not precise enough, too easy for it not to happen.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    studiorat wrote: »
    Come on, have him killed by who? The Drumcondra mafia?
    You called em that not me :) but yeah, D'Boys;)
    His business partner in Anglo Adratiac was killed in a shooting accident,[:eek:] the car crash just doesn't add up. It's not precise enough, too easy for it not to happen.

    car crashes aint as messy a proposition as ya think, especially if you have big Roads like Russia or Australia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    You called em that not me :) but yeah, D'Boys;)



    car crashes aint as messy a proposition as ya think, especially if you have big Roads like Russia or Australia

    Stop avoiding the issue. Any one of what dealings could have had him killed? Name one...

    He hit a lamppost!!! How to you organise that?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    that is the issue tho, What shady dealin was he up to that got him Killed? the question is 'Was Liam Lawlor assassinatated' I'm merely postulatin probabilaties a to the Why;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 324 ✭✭Darith


    zacmorris wrote: »
    He was a memebr of the Bilderberg group nd the Trilateral Commission.
    So, it kind of opens up speculation on the true cause of his death.
    What did he know, and who didn't want him to speak about it!


    I did not know he was part of the above groups or is this speculation ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,000 ✭✭✭dermo88


    It costs as little as 5,000 Dollars to get a hit done in Moscow. Consider, what has happened since in Ireland. We know that the banking system almost collapsed. Liam Lawlor was going to sing like a canary, and bring the whole rotten edifice down before its time.

    Fianna Fail panicked. There are people in Fianna Fail who would know people in Sinn Fein and the former IRA. Anything can be organised for a price. Preventing Liam Lawlor from spilling the beans and causing a car accident would not cost a great deal of money against the potential amount of money lost.

    It also happens in the most corrupt place going. Car accident. Its an explanation that the Soviets would be proud of.

    Too many people at the top stood to lose. One or two patsies are sent to jail, such as Liam Lawlor, Ray Burke, Gogarty, etc. The rest get away with it. The same happens with Sean Fitzpatrick. Theres more to come yet.

    There is no question that the expertise exists in Ireland and Russia. Of course it does......the IRA have more than 30 years experience on how to cause car accidents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    dermo88 wrote: »
    the IRA have more than 30 years experience on how to cause car accidents.

    eh? dont think so.Think they specialised in sniping and planting bombs.Unless you call car bombs car accidents:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    lads we are witnessing the birth of a CT here.

    the OP didnt find any eveidence to suggest this other than his own suspicions.theres no other online accounts of a conspiracy behind this.

    what do you want us to say in response OP.if we agree with you theres no evidence to support it

    if we say no it couldnt have been a consiracy there will be people coming on and suggesting it was a cover up(like there have been already)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    seannash wrote: »
    lads we are witnessing the birth of a CT here.

    Its a 3 month old baby now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,672 ✭✭✭seannash


    Its a 3 month old baby now.
    awww the grow up and spiral out of control so fast


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 266 ✭✭bytey


    Selected wrote: »
    I've searched the internet and have not found one mention of this possibility?

    It seems quite plausible to me.

    Thoughts and opinions welcome.


    here is my thought and with all respect :

    I actually couldnt give a f.uck whether he was or not .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,084 ✭✭✭✭Esel
    Not Your Ornery Onager


    dermo88 wrote: »
    One or two patsies are sent to jail, such as Liam Lawlor, Ray Burke, Gogarty, etc.
    Get your facts straight. James Gogarty never did time for anything related to the tribunal (or anything else for that matter, afaik).

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    Bump


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,460 ✭✭✭demonspawn


    Bah, I should really start checking pages 2 and 3. :p

    Ok, I'll go through this and add any relevant information to the new thread. I'm looking for dead people in particular, not just people who may be involved.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    dont worry it took me a while to find it and I knew it existed ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,718 ✭✭✭✭JonathanAnon


    I would think Liam Lawlor's death has nothing to do with anyone here. It is probably more likely that a) It was just a simple accident or b) He pissed off somebody in Russia, which given his bullying character, is not beyond the bounds of reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Lawlor was taken out because he had become inconvenient and had access and visibility to too many secrets.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,209 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Thing about Lawler was the driver of that car a Russian citizen was killed too... he’d want to have had some pretty damning info for the Russians to risk the life of two other people in the car, a young lady who was if I remember an interpreter I think she survived though...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    He had damning info on people linked to the scams/frauds/money laundering he was involved in, probably as a front man for people higher up on the foodchain. He had publically threatened to bring others down if he went down.

    He was CJH's rep on Bilderberg.

    The driver was collateral damage.

    You are correct that the interpreter survived. Had she died, the media would have continued to run with the 'Liam Lawlor dies in Moscow car crash with hooker' smear. The media reporting of the event in itself is suspicious. Almost as though they had prior info but rushed into print too speedily



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭mazdamiatamx5


    Any update?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Citizen  Six


    No



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