adult cavaliers

roxiesmammy

What is it at the moment with the amount of adult dogs for sale esp adult cavaliers. Some seem to be making sure people know that they are about to go in heat. Another thing im worried about, at least by these ads is, are there going to be any people left in Ireland. It seems everyone is leaving??????

andreac

I know Roxie, its awful isnt it. I always wonder about these "genuine reasons for selling" and why they are selling their lovely pet, its awful.

I cannot even imagine selling my dog, hes with me til the end.

morganafay

I just did a search and found loads for sale.

Also a "purebred Papillon, non-reg" which looks nothing like a Papillon to me and says that they can be bred well with Cavaliers and Poms.

The other day I saw "Purebred non-reg British shorthair kittens". They were definitely just normal kittens. That's not really anything to do with it . . . but still.

PaulB91

was just flicking through and saw this one

gonzo is a lovely friendly pure bred boxer dog who had an accident recently with his eye, unfortunatly i have lost my job and can not afford to look after him anymore. he is nearly one year old and comes with papers and microchip. he needs some vetinary attention

FYI contacted a local welfare group to see if they can help on this one

morganafay

PaulB91 wrote: »

was just flicking through and saw this one





FYI contacted a local welfare group to see if they can help on this one

poor dog

mollymascara

Unfortunately, pure bred dogs can come with a lot of health problems, the cavalier for example is a known breed to have heart problems from an early age. The expenses involved can be huge.

It is disheartening to see so many adult dog up for sale non lthe less and I do hope there are ligit reasons for selling for the animals sake

roxiesmammy

had a call from a girl i know, i think this is been sorted. poor boxer, not only does his eye look bad but he looks like he is starving. hopefully this dog will be rescued. Stupid person is even giving papers, fingers x that he dont end up with breeders

PaulB91

morganafay wrote: »

poor dog

welfare group already got him so he should be alright now poor lad

roxiesmammy

mollymascara wrote: »

Unfortunately, pure bred dogs can come with a lot of health problems, the cavalier for example is a known breed to have heart problems from an early age. The expenses involved can be huge.

It is disheartening to see so many adult dog up for sale non lthe less and I do hope there are ligit reasons for selling for the animals sake

Totally agree about the health probs with the cavalier but the drugs aint expensive, Ralph a cav i had who died with this several yrs ago was on 3 types of tablets daily, think the cost was only about €12 a week. Not a fortune, sure i would spend that on mags a week

Noopti

Also, if anyone decided to buy a purebred dog which they know could possibly develope particular problems then they really should factor in the cost of insurance into their budget.

MHDesigns

I think since 'Pedigree Dogs Exposed' was aired people have become more aware of the health problems with pedigree dogs and so are more conscious of who they buy their pups from. I wudnt be surprised if a lot of those adult dogs are ex breeding dogs from backyard breeders.
Also with the dreaded R word some people cant afford to keep their dogs, although I would go hungry so could feed mine, they are part of the family and selling them would be the same as selling my children :eek:

adelcrowsmel

Thats soo weird you have started a thread on this - I was only commenting to a friend the other day about the amount of adult CKC's for sale on a certain website. I couldn't believe it and was actually getting really upset just looking at them - would love to take them all home. I don't beleive that any of these adds are for real though - if someone really had a dog that they couldn't look after anymore due to not being able to afford the dog or they are emigrating etc...surely all you would be interested in is finding a good home for your dog and not making a profit out of it i.e. selling the dog on these websites!!:mad:

roxiesmammy

adelcrowsmel wrote: »

Thats soo weird you have started a thread on this - I was only commenting to a friend the other day about the amount of adult CKC's for sale on a certain website. I couldn't believe it and was actually getting really upset just looking at them - would love to take them all home. I don't beleive that any of these adds are for real though - if someone really had a dog that they couldn't look after anymore due to not being able to afford the dog or they are emigrating etc...surely all you would be interested in is finding a good home for your dog and not making a profit out of it i.e. selling the dog on these websites!!:mad:

totally agree with ya. i know i shouldnt be doing this but seen a add on a website this morning about a 4 and half yr old cav female, such a sad face, kept going back to pic. any hows am on my way to pick her up shortly. there asking €70 aint really got it but felt so sorry for her and yes i know shouldnt be giving these money to these people but says she was never breed from, wife is going back to work and dog is stuck in house all day by herself.

PaulB91

good on ya! was thinking about the boxer myself - but with 4 large dogs already pulling me down the road i don't think it would have been wise

adelcrowsmel

Well even though I don't agree with people selling the dogs - I'm glad to see at least one of them if getting a good home - fair play to you roxiesmammy:)

CreedonsDogDayc

PaulB91 wrote: »

good on ya! was thinking about the boxer myself - but with 4 large dogs already pulling me down the road i don't think it would have been wise

Thought your head would be ticking over considering the option of taking him yourself!

MHDesigns

roxiesmammy wrote: »

totally agree with ya. i know i shouldnt be doing this but seen a add on a website this morning about a 4 and half yr old cav female, such a sad face, kept going back to pic. any hows am on my way to pick her up shortly. there asking €70 aint really got it but felt so sorry for her and yes i know shouldnt be giving these money to these people but says she was never breed from, wife is going back to work and dog is stuck in house all day by herself.

Well done you

I saw that add this morning(well think its the same one, a blenhem?) and was going to ring, even though i really dont have room for another one. Did you see how filthy the poor little thing was :eek:

I'm sure you will be rewarded with endless love and devotion

PaulB91

would this be her by chance

PaulB91

look at this poor lad - "free to good home" boxer/collie mix, 6 months old

PaulB91

and another

Free to good home ..Wanted ...someone who loves dogs and will be willing to take on a boxer dog with some health issues. Shes a beautiful dog that has mast stem cell problems and is being managed with steroids as i dont want to take her down the chemo operation root....she needs an enclosure thats safe and a warm bed to live out her days. The vet reckons she has anything from a year to 5 yrs...to live. I am moving to England and am not able to bring her with me.

i can't understand why people leave family pets go - i have had the odd argument with my partner about the hounds and she know she be gone first hahaha

MHDesigns

PaulB91 wrote: »

would this be her by chance

Thats the one i was on about anyway, the poor thing is filthy :mad:

That boxerXcollie looks so sad

PaulB91

i'm going to have to stop looking now

3 yr old fantastic dogue de bordeaux. very large dog, loves kids. used to cats and other dogs. house and lead trained. very quiet dog. due to house move and not enough space. would like him to go to family.he is nuetered so no breeding. willing to swop for bull terrier or sell for good offer as money not the issue as long as he gets gud home.

morganafay

That's great that the boxer will be looked after now anyway

If I had money and my own place then I'd buy all those Cavaliers . . . and find good homes for them or keep them.

I know that's giving money to them, but really, when I get a job and move out then I'm gonna do that!

PaulB91

another one for the made up name brigade

A very rare breed pup we call them dachback pups they are a cross between a Dachshund and a Rodheisn Ridqueback they are very cute and friendly pups there are 2 males ONLY 1 LEFT

morganafay

And I saw kittens for sale for €300 each, mother is Maine Coon, apparently . . . though they look like normal kittens . . .

Noopti

Dachshound & Rhodesian Ridgeback!?!?!?

PaulB91

Noopti wrote: »

Dachshound & Rhodesian Ridgeback!?!?!?

err ye - was trying to work that one out myself - think they might have borrowed a step ladder

PaulB91

ahh this is winding me up

TED IS A 12MTH OLD TERRIERX HE IS very quiet and would make a good GUARD DOG VERY GOOD WITH KIDS and gets on well with other animals 2 GOOD HOME ONLY HE HAS A GOOD TEMPERMENT WOULD SUIT AS COMPANION TO A ELDERLY PERSON who likes walking and good on the lead ted or teddy loves his space to and loves chasing crows that annoy him ted is also NEUTERD

morganafay

PaulB91 wrote: »

err ye - was trying to work that one out myself - think they might have borrowed a step ladder

My friend has a JRT X Wolfhound! I didn't ask which was the mother and which was the father . . .

PaulB91

morganafay wrote: »

My friend has a JRT X Wolfhound! I didn't ask which was the mother and which was the father . . .

LMAO

right, getting a lotto ticket tonight, will obviously win the millions, buy a farm, sort out the outhouses and get of these bow wows somewhere warm and dry and with love to live

lorebringer

It's an unfortunate reality that comes with hard times - people suddenly realise just how much it is to keep a pet and no longer want to put in the investment. Obviously, sometimes there is a genuine reason for selling a pet and often it is the last option (eg. child develops allergy, lost job, emigrating etc.) but so many "genuine" reasons are very petty things that I couldn't imagine ever giving up one of mine for.

Pounds and rescues are stuffed beyond belief and so many are former family pets that are no longer wanted. Loads of dogs are pure breeds that are just tossed aside when the owners no longer want to deal with them. My main concern with people selling pure breed dogs is that so many are not neutered and people don't really do home checks etc. so their beloved family pet could end up in a terrible situation due to the charisma of the buyer. Many breeders downsize or stop breeding a certain breed and so sell their dogs, which often come with health and behavioural problems that the new owner then has to deal with. Breeders (just to note, when a say "breeders" I really mean "sh*t, scumbag breeders") will get rid of dogs that do not produce decent litters and it sickens me that these people lie blatantly to the buyers about "genuine" reasons for selling the dog. :mad:

morganafay

Oh yeah, oh one website I saw something like

"We rehome your dog for you. We are a rescue and will come and take your dog off your hands. We'll pick up dangerous dogs. We rehome:
Pitbulls
Staffies
Rotties
Akita
German Shepherds"
(Basically just all "dangerous" dog breeds).

It sounds really dodgy to me . . .

shanagarry

lorebringer wrote: »

Obviously, sometimes there is a genuine reason for selling a pet

I don't think there is actually. I agree that there might be a genuine reason to get rid of a pet, but to want money for it as well? That doesn't sound very genuine to me... Surely you would take it to a rescue or try and find it a home for nothing?

Although I have heard that some people put a price in the ad to put off the chancers and unscrupulous sorts, but don't actually take any money once they find someone genuine.

I think I'll have to stop looking at this thread, it's making me cry. I grew up with a boxer and I want both those two

morganafay

shanagarry wrote: »

I don't think there is actually. I agree that there might be a genuine reason to get rid of a pet, but to want money for it as well? That doesn't sound very genuine to me... Surely you would take it to a rescue or try and find it a home for nothing?

Although I have heard that some people put a price in the ad to put off the chancers and unscrupulous sorts, but don't actually take any money once they find someone genuine.

I think I'll have to stop looking at this thread, it's making me cry. I grew up with a boxer and I want both those two

Yeah, I'd be kinda wary of giving away a pet (on the internet). You'd want to ask for something for it . . . but I wouldn't sell my pets on the internet anyway (I wouldn't sell them anyway!)

roxiesmammy

yeah the pic that was posted is the one. Susie is her name and OMG what a state the poor thing is in. I cant describe the state she is in, the dirt, where she is supposed to be white is yellow. the stink i can not begin to describe it. Its not a dirty, wet dog smell its ???????. Her teeth are rotten, when asked what she eats told anything off the table. they said she hasnt had a litter well that is bullsh**t.
dont think she has ever been on lead, and the funny thing was he, whoever he was, wasnt the person on add, was told first his wife was dropping her then was told his brother, anyhows i was told to look after her as she was spoilt?????
the worst thing is what i thought was she was over weight im now convinced she could be pregnant. Her boobs are hanging and her belly is more i think a pregnant belly. So if she is, maybe im wrong, hopefully i am and she is just overweight, but if she is preg i would imagine there not pb and that is why she was sold. Will have at vets monday, if at all poss tomorrow as my vet will take emergencys on sat.
At this stage if she is i would think, im no expert, that its to late to do anything, is this right

CreedonsDogDayc

roxiesmammy wrote: »

yeah the pic that was posted is the one. Susie is her name and OMG what a state the poor thing is in. I cant describe the state she is in, the dirt, where she is supposed to be white is yellow. the stink i can not begin to describe it. Its not a dirty, wet dog smell its ???????. Her teeth are rotten, when asked what she eats told anything off the table. they said she hasnt had a litter well that is bullsh**t.
dont think she has ever been on lead, and the funny thing was he, whoever he was, wasnt the person on add, was told first his wife was dropping her then was told his brother, anyhows i was told to look after her as she was spoilt?????
the worst thing is what i thought was she was over weight im now convinced she could be pregnant. Her boobs are hanging and her belly is more i think a pregnant belly. So if she is, maybe im wrong, hopefully i am and she is just overweight, but if she is preg i would imagine there not pb and that is why she was sold. Will have at vets monday, if at all poss tomorrow as my vet will take emergencys on sat.
At this stage if she is i would think, im no expert, that its to late to do anything, is this right

Oh my god thats so sad! Are you going to report them? If they are breeding dogs in that state they should be banned from owning dogs.

morganafay

roxiesmammy wrote: »

yeah the pic that was posted is the one. Susie is her name and OMG what a state the poor thing is in. I cant describe the state she is in, the dirt, where she is supposed to be white is yellow. the stink i can not begin to describe it. Its not a dirty, wet dog smell its ???????. Her teeth are rotten, when asked what she eats told anything off the table. they said she hasnt had a litter well that is bullsh**t.
dont think she has ever been on lead, and the funny thing was he, whoever he was, wasnt the person on add, was told first his wife was dropping her then was told his brother, anyhows i was told to look after her as she was spoilt?????
the worst thing is what i thought was she was over weight im now convinced she could be pregnant. Her boobs are hanging and her belly is more i think a pregnant belly. So if she is, maybe im wrong, hopefully i am and she is just overweight, but if she is preg i would imagine there not pb and that is why she was sold. Will have at vets monday, if at all poss tomorrow as my vet will take emergencys on sat.
At this stage if she is i would think, im no expert, that its to late to do anything, is this right

Poor little dog. If her boobs are hanging down then she must have had a litter or be pregnant right? Hopefully she is just overweight.

Vets can spay a heavily pregnant dog, but most won't do it. I don't know if there is a medical reason that they won't, it might be dangerous, or if it's just that they don't like to do it.

roxiesmammy

CreedonsDogDayc wrote: »

Oh my god thats so sad! Are you going to report them? If they are breeding dogs in that state they should be banned from owning dogs.

dont know if they were breeding, they said dog was spoilt. She has def been fed, if not preg way to much. So she stinks, her teeth are bad, but what can i prove. At least shes out.
Will bath her 2moro, would love 2 do it 2nite but want her to settle first. Will haver her at vet either in morning or monday and will get her checked out, wormed and if not preg, vac.
Suise is such a sweet girl, tail is wagging all the time.
one thing is def. im not looking on them sites anymore

MHDesigns

The poor little thing, its just sickening that people can keep their dogs in such a state. When we got our Roxy she was the same, the stench off her was unreal and she had to have a lot of her teeth removed because they were rotten.
I hope she is not pregnant, esp if you dont know what kind of dog she has mated with. Cavaliers are so small that there is a reall danger to giving birth if they mated with a large dog
Keep us updated and well done for giving her a loving home

lrushe

When I was looking for my Rottie pup I got a call from a guy who had a 12 weeks old pup, he said he bought it for his girlfriend. He said they had since realised he was blind in one eye so they no longer wanted him, they were asking for just €50 TO GO TOWARDS THEIR NEXT PUP :eek:
I couldn't believe it, I think I said something like I'd ring him back because I just couldn't take in what I had just heard. I never did ring him back though, as much as my heart broke for the poor little pup I couldn't let my heart rule my head. I didn't know if he had just made up the story to pull at heart strings or whether he was just another unethical breeder trying to off load a sickly pup and I definately didn't want to line the pockets of someone like that.

PaulB91

roxiesmammy wrote: »

the worst thing is what i thought was she was over weight im now convinced she could be pregnant. Her boobs are hanging and her belly is more i think a pregnant belly. So if she is, maybe im wrong, hopefully i am and she is just overweight, but if she is preg i would imagine there not pb and that is why she was sold. Will have at vets monday, if at all poss tomorrow as my vet will take emergencys on sat.

Hey there as you know i just went through the rescue bitch who came out pregnant, so any help i can be of give me a shout, are you in Cork because i know of two vets who are open Sat - one in Midleton and the other in Mahon - mind you the Midleton one missed the fact that the bitch i got out was pregnant about two to three weeks prior to birth

if her nipples are hanging down and she seems swollen around her belly its likely - gently stroke around her midrift and see if she feels uncomfortable with it, also gently squeaze the nipples, if she comfortable with you - if there is milk the pups will soon be appearing - where abouts did you pick her up - from their home or a "meet"

if it turns out she is pregnant don't fret and think about the fact you are not merely saving one dog but the pups as well

roxiesmammy

PaulB91 wrote: »

Hey there as you know i just went through the rescue bitch who came out pregnant, so any help i can be of give me a shout, are you in Cork because i know of two vets who are open Sat - one in Midleton and the other in Mahon - mind you the Midleton one missed the fact that the bitch i got out was pregnant about two to three weeks prior to birth

if her nipples are hanging down and she seems swollen around her belly its likely - gently stroke around her midrift and see if she feels uncomfortable with it, also gently squeaze the nipples, if she comfortable with you - if there is milk the pups will soon be appearing - where abouts did you pick her up - from their home or a "meet"

if it turns out she is pregnant don't fret and think about the fact you are not merely saving one dog but the pups as well

thanks paul, i actually live in offaly so long way from u. She is swollen round belly but she is very big all over so not sure, will ring few vets 2moro and see if i can get her seen. I picked her up from carpark in carlow, i know you are never to do this but i knew the score from seen her pic and talking to owner on phone. just really wanted her out and didnt mind wher i picked her up. I was giving her reg papers as well, and no surprise they are the carlow kennels one. Im also thinking maybe she could be preg as he was only looking for €70 for her, seen breeders selling them for alot more even ones that are older than suise

Eibhin

Well done for taking her. That's what I call a real rescue case...
Let us know how you get on with the vet.
You are great

lorebringer

shanagarry wrote: »

I don't think there is actually. I agree that there might be a genuine reason to get rid of a pet, but to want money for it as well? That doesn't sound very genuine to me... Surely you would take it to a rescue or try and find it a home for nothing?

Although I have heard that some people put a price in the ad to put off the chancers and unscrupulous sorts, but don't actually take any money once they find someone genuine.

Putting a price definitely puts off some dodgy types, but not all. I would always recommend someone putting a "price" if they are trying to get rid of a dog (sounds awful!) for this very reason. So many people, unfortunately, don't go the rescue route and so many rescues are so stuffed that many can't take in more dogs.

roxiesmammy wrote: »

dont know if they were breeding, they said dog was spoilt. She has def been fed, if not preg way to much. So she stinks, her teeth are bad, but what can i prove. At least shes out.
Will bath her 2moro, would love 2 do it 2nite but want her to settle first. Will haver her at vet either in morning or monday and will get her checked out, wormed and if not preg, vac.
Suise is such a sweet girl, tail is wagging all the time.
one thing is def. im not looking on them sites anymore

Hope your little ladies vet check goes well - often, if they have been heavily bred from they can have very saggy breasts without being pregnant because they have stretched beyond belief. They can have very rounded bellies for this reason too. She could also be riddled with worms or a gastric infection, or have been fed crap thus have a bloated belly. I'm so glad you took this lady on, well done! Please let us know how it all goes with her

Have sent you a pm.

PaulB91

let us know how you go - the other thing we thought when we got Roxy was that maybe she'd just delivered pups so giving her the sagging nipples

roxiesmammy

couldnt get her to vets today but got her seen by a fella i know that deals with animal cruelty cases. His says she has all the classic signs of been a puppy farm dog. her teeth have all been broken and chewed down where she has been trying to chew out of a cage, her nose is also cut and marked from this. her nails havent been cut in god knows how long, her coat still after a bath stinks. it is also covered in urine stains, where he says she has prob had to sit in her own waste. her ears are full of mites and stinking.
the good news is that she aint preg but he says a litter has just gone from her and he says she has prob had god knows how many litters.
So today she has had a bath, her nails clipped, her ears cleaned. a collar and lead put on her but after all this she is still wagging her tail. she is such a quiet, shy girl but you can tell she wants to be loved and petted.
Will have her at vets monday as i want to get her ears treated, and want to get her vac and wormed. also want to get her heart checked as she is panting a lot, so i wont be surprised if she has a heart murmer.
anyone any tips to getting the smell of her as the smell, even after a bath is very over powering

Eibhin

I would say after the trip to the vets on Monday she will smell better. It could be coming from the ears and they probably need to be trimmed too. I would say a good clip/cut would take a lot of the smelly hair away. Can you give her a good brush out too?
Phew about not being pregnant anyway. At least she can now live out her years in total comfort with you.
Once again, well done for saving her from her miserable life.:)

shanagarry

Wow, roxiesmammy, fair play to you for taking her on and giving her a chance. Poor thing, it just makes me sick to the core to hear stories like that. What wonderful animals dogs are, to still be loving and trusting after that abuse.

I'd say your best bet with the smell is to try and get her clipped as tight as possible and get rid of the old hair completely.

lrushe

roxiesmammy wrote: »

anyone any tips to getting the smell of her as the smell, even after a bath is very over powering

I've heard of people putting tomato juice on dogs sprayed by skunks????
This would only work though if the smell is coming from her coat and not her ears, anal glands or some other infection

morganafay

roxiesmammy wrote: »

couldnt get her to vets today but got her seen by a fella i know that deals with animal cruelty cases. His says she has all the classic signs of been a puppy farm dog. her teeth have all been broken and chewed down where she has been trying to chew out of a cage, her nose is also cut and marked from this. her nails havent been cut in god knows how long, her coat still after a bath stinks. it is also covered in urine stains, where he says she has prob had to sit in her own waste. her ears are full of mites and stinking.
the good news is that she aint preg but he says a litter has just gone from her and he says she has prob had god knows how many litters.
So today she has had a bath, her nails clipped, her ears cleaned. a collar and lead put on her but after all this she is still wagging her tail. she is such a quiet, shy girl but you can tell she wants to be loved and petted.
Will have her at vets monday as i want to get her ears treated, and want to get her vac and wormed. also want to get her heart checked as she is panting a lot, so i wont be surprised if she has a heart murmer.
anyone any tips to getting the smell of her as the smell, even after a bath is very over powering

That's great that she's not pregnant and that she is such a nice dog. I think even after years of neglect a Cavalier could never be anything other than lovely.

Does she like exercise, and have you heard her cough at all? I hope she doesn't have a heart murmur, I guess there is a good chance though. I hope she'll be ok

lorebringer

She could smell due to a nasty skin/ear/anal gland infection, if this is the case she will need to get treatment before the smell will go away.

Out of experience, anti dandruff shampoo is the best thing to get really dodgy smells out of them - sometimes followed by a rinse of apple cider vinegar. If you leave the shampoo on her for a minute, rinse, repeat the shampoo, rinse, then do the vinegar rinse (leaving it on her for a minute or two) and rinse really well afterwards she should smell better. She might small a bit like the vinegar for a bit but this goes away pretty fast and it's much better than a smell of poo and such. If she has a lot of matting, try to cut some of it out because it will hold onto the smell much more than normal coat. Pay particular attention to her paws when you are clipping and washing because they may be sore from standing in poo and pee and getting as much out of them is a really good idea to get the air at them. Also, her bum will need some attention (lovely!) because she will have been sitting a lot of the time and if there is matting she may have been pooing on herself.

Good luck and hope all goes well at the vet!