Grand National Betting

eldrickwoods

Didn't see one started yet so i thought i'd open up the proceedings.

obviously it's a bit of a lottery. I'd have to go with Black Apalachi @ 14/1 as he looked to be flying it last year before falling at the 3rd last. Vic Venturi @ 20/1 has a good shout too. I'll probably put a few pennies on those 2.

let me know your thoughts as i could do with some guidance on this one.

some grand national betting tips here for what it's worth.

nucking futs

Funny, those were the exact two horses I was thinking of putting money on as well. I'm not an expert but I'm leaning towards Black Apalachi myself.

Kod-box

Carrying too much weight IMO

im going with Character Building and Vic venturi e/w

heavyballs

arbour supreme and snowy morning and here's why

i'm not takin the pish,i had a dream at the start of the week that i was in the parade ring in Aintree talking to Willie Mullins about his horse just having won the national
i not normally into this shyte but it was so vivad i'm going to back those 2 on the nose
i don't really trust snowy,anyone fancy arbour?

nice1franko

Arbours got a following alright. Young Irish jock onboard he's only 19 I think. He certainly seems to be in with a squeak.

Also, the handicapper reckons he's after messing up with both Vic Venturi and Black Ap.:
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/aintree-grand-national-aintree-aintree-black-apalachi-vic-venturi-id-raise-hughes-national-pair-handicapper-smith/700172/grandnationalmeeting/

Nulty

nice1franko wrote: »

Arbours got a following alright. Young Irish jock onboard he's only 19 I think. He certainly seems to be in with a squeak.

Also, the handicapper reckons he's after messing up with both Vic Venturi and Black Ap.:
http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/aintree-grand-national-aintree-aintree-black-apalachi-vic-venturi-id-raise-hughes-national-pair-handicapper-smith/700172/grandnationalmeeting/

Smith can't predict the future. He gave them a mark that was correct at the time. They have just come out since and shown improvement since the weights were issued. Nothing new in that.

nice1franko

Fair enough. The way they said he's losing sleep over it made me think it was a misake. I mean why would you lose sleep over decisions that were the correct call at the time?

Anyway, the main point is that it can only be a good thing that the handicapper thinks theye a lower weight than they deserve

eldrickwoods

Kod-box wrote: »

Carrying too much weight IMO

im going with Character Building and Vic venturi e/w

yeah the weight could be an issue. i really don't know why he's carrying 5 pounds more than last year. gave up trying to understand the thought process of the handicappers long ago.

he could do with a bit of rain in the ground overnight too.

Vic Venturi 35/1 now on betfair. might be worth a cheeky bet on the nose.

DeadSkin

Thanks to aidankkk, I got 2.50e/w on Royal Rosa @ 100/1.
The Guardian Generator gave me Madison Du Berlais, another 2.50e/w @ 50/1

Had the winner last year, well the gf picked it, but my PP account looked healthy for a few days :pac:

Kod-box

Roger Loughran rides Vic venturi now after Flood broke his collar bone today, puts me off backing it now.

Sizzler

Maljimar 33/1 & Flintoff 50/1 for me

Vurnon San Benito

DeadSkin wrote: »

Thanks to aidankkk, I got 2.50e/w on Royal Rosa @ 100/1.
The Guardian Generator gave me Madison Du Berlais, another 2.50e/w @ 50/1

Had the winner last year, well the gf picked it, but my PP account looked healthy for a few days :pac:

Love the way you said that :pac:

okidoki987

Ladbrokes & Hills are an absolute joke.
4 places in the National? :mad:
There will be loads of people going into their shops tomorrow who have never had a bet before and they are getting ripped off.
Betfred are also in this scabby boat but they don't have shops in Ireland.

Shakeandbake!

King Johns Castle and Comply Or Die both e/w for me.

Vurnon San Benito

Meself and a friend have a challenge going for the remaining 7 races.
Here

Some of our selections are laughable I'm sure but it's a bitta craic.
Just thought I'd let ye all knaa.

argosy2006

Niche market,Beat the boys or Erics charm ''fell at first''

Itsdacraic

BigFellaThanks straight
Cerium e/w

thesandeman

okidoki987 wrote: »

Ladbrokes & Hills are an absolute joke.
4 places in the National? :mad:
There will be loads of people going into their shops tomorrow who have never had a bet before and they are getting ripped off.
Betfred are also in this scabby boat but they don't have shops in Ireland.

Lads are 5 places but for some reason it doesnt say it on their slip but when they scan it, it says it on the customer docket in the shops.

essexman

heavyballs wrote: »

arbour supreme and snowy morning and here's why

i'm not takin the pish,i had a dream at the start of the week that i was in the parade ring in Aintree talking to Willie Mullins about his horse just having won the national
i not normally into this shyte but it was so vivad i'm going to back those 2 on the nose
i don't really trust snowy,anyone fancy arbour?

right i'm on those 2 seeings as your post count is 666.
also priests leap.for balance.

I always try and narrow it down to 4 every year and have decent enough luck over the years.

Have it down to these, all e/w's obviously !

1.Can't buy time.

2.Beat the boys

3.Backstage

4.Ellerslie George


Best of luck all

bamboozling

Package 12/1 €10 e/w
Don't Push It 20/1 €5 e/w

I'd reallly love Don't Push It to win just for McCoy beacuse it would be the creowning glory on a great career.

Raskolnikov

€10 stakes.

Cerium to place @ 15/1.
Madison de Berlais to place @ 18/1.
My Will to place @ 10/1.
Ballyfitz to place @ 18/1.

Good luck all.

LavaLamp

always like a bit of fun on the Grand National - all to place:

King Johns Castle 25/1
Irish Raptor 28/1
Niche Market 18/1
Priests Leap 100/1

Browney7

Niche Market 18/1. Last years Irish national winner. Hopefully he does a numberSixValverde on it.

Hello bud at 33/1. He's completed the National course when he was a beaten Fav in the Becher chase back in November when Vic Venturi won it. Nice low weight off 10-6. A small nibble each way.

dotsflan

Ive gone for these:

Mon Mome (win)
Backstage (win)

Cloudy Lane (ew)
Maljimar (ew)
Priests leap (ew)

good luck all

DeadSkin

DeadSkin wrote: »

Thanks to aidankkk, I got 2.50e/w on Royal Rosa @ 100/1.
The Guardian Generator gave me Madison Du Berlais, another 2.50e/w @ 50/1

Had the winner last year, well the gf picked it, but my PP account looked healthy for a few days :pac:

The gf has made her selection, 2.50e/w Erics Charm @ 40/1 & 2.50e/w Vic Venturi @ 25/1.

Good luck y'all!!!

Gillington

Main bet

Vic Venturi 25/1 EW

Others

Eric's Charm 40/1 EW
Maljimar 40/1 EW
Ballyholland 33/1 EW

skeleton_boy

Black Apalachi ew @ 12/1
Character Building ew @ 18/1

qc3

Niche Market Win @ 16/1
Hello Bud EW @ 33/1
Royal Rosa EW @ 80/1

Nulty

Madison Du Berlais
Cerium
Eric's Charm
Hello Bud

All e/w

It's impossible

mink_man

vic venturi e/w
black apalachi e/w

skeleton_boy

Nulty wrote: »

It's impossible

Hear, hear.

Devastator

Irish Raptor 33/1 £5 e/w

Tiriel

Ruby Walsh gone!!!
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/walsh-ruled-out-of-national-453388.html

Vurnon San Benito

Got Rare Bob in the top three but **** all returns

Big Fella Thanks for me @ 9/1 last night, Ruby broken arm though

argosy2006

the money came for it ,was a sign i guess,

Tiriel

John Smith's Grand National
1. Don't Push It (Tony McCoy) 10-1jf
2. Black Apalachi (Denis O'Regan) 14-1
3. State of Play (Paul Moloney) 16-1
4. Big Fella Thanks (Barry Geraghty) 10-1jf

jenno86

who came 5th?

dotsflan

jenno86 wrote: »

who came 5th?

hello bud i think

mailburner

Returns to a £1 Each Way stake
- 1st Don't Push It
Win £14.50
- 2nd Black Apalachi
Place £4.50
- 3rd State Of Play
Place £5.00
- 4th Big Fella Thanks
Place £3.50
- 5th Hello Bud
Place £6.00

mailburner

argosy2006 wrote: »

the money came for it ,was a sign i guess,

it certainly did
22s was widely available last nite

skeleton_boy

Cracking run from Black Apalachi. Can't begrudge McCoy the win though.

Browney7

Browney7 wrote: »

Niche Market 18/1. Last years Irish national winner. Hopefully he does a numberSixValverde on it.

Hello bud at 33/1. He's completed the National course when he was a beaten Fav in the Becher chase back in November when Vic Venturi won it. Nice low weight off 10-6. A small nibble each way.

5th at 20's. Got him at 40's with Ladbrooks. Happy enough.

Delighted for McCoy. 15th time Lucky

Nulty

Browney7 wrote: »

5th at 20's. Got him at 40's with Ladbrooks. Happy enough.

Delighted for McCoy. 15th time Lucky

Same, only at 33's.

Well done McCoy is right. He was GAGGING for a national wasn't he.:D

Onecoolcookie

Delighted for McCoy, Anyone know how many places betfair pay out on ?

Verance

Onecoolcookie wrote: »

Delighted for McCoy, Anyone know how many places betfair pay out on ?

Just the four.

greeno

Does anyone know if Saint Johns Castle is classified as a non runner. Had money on him and thought should get my stake back but PP said that he came under orders and was therefore not a non runner.

bamboozling

bamboozling wrote: »

Don't Push It 20/1 €5 e/w

I'd reallly love Don't Push It to win just for McCoy beacuse it would be the crowning glory on a great career.

Delighted. As a college student well all I can say is the €135 gained from this will go a hell of a long way!

Vanbis

I backed Dont push it for a win @ 10/1.

I also always backed Khyber Kim to win @ 7/2. I backed him at Cheltenham to win but came second so when i heard he was running today i went big again .

mailburner

greeno wrote: »

Does anyone know if Saint Johns Castle is classified as a non runner. Had money on him and thought should get my stake back but PP said that he came under orders and was therefore not a non runner.

your money is gone unfortunately
its ridiculous though

Vanbis

mailburner wrote: »

your money in gone unfortunately
its ridiculous though

Made me laugh, a couple of friends back this so when it came to the start it gave me a good laugh, my sides started to spilt

PP right not to refund as well.