FIFA World Cup 2010

corcaigh07

downloading the demo on XBL, probably wont be too different from Fifa 10 but should be interesting to see EA's "100" changes to the game :rolleyes:

corcaigh07

First Impressions:

Not too bad! straight away, the presentation hits you. the menus etc look excellent, far niceer than fifa 10's rather droll looking menus. Onto the friendly match, it continues. the graphics are far superior to fifa 10 and looks better than 09 as well. the player models look great, i think even PES fans will be impressed here. its not just the main players like torres that look better, even a reserve italian player(like aquaman) looks good and realistic.

onto the gameplay, its much the same although a few things have changed. first of all, it is possible to concede a peno with a standing tackle, no more raping in the box. Goalies have improved greatly even if casillas and buffon are in the demo. no more lame lobs it seems. some good saves too. also, players seem to make smarter runs with things like overlapping full-backs and CMs making late runs for chances(de rossi is very handy in this aspect)

looking good, world cup game! fifa 11 is already looking promising.

corcaigh07

corcaigh07 wrote: »

First Impressions:

Not too bad! straight away, the presentation hits you. the menus etc look excellent, far niceer than fifa 10's rather droll looking menus. Onto the friendly match, it continues. the graphics are far superior to fifa 10 and looks better than 09 as well. the player models look great, i think even PES fans will be impressed here. its not just the main players like torres that look better, even a reserve italian player(like aquaman) looks good and realistic.

onto the gameplay, its much the same although a few things have changed. first of all, it is possible to concede a peno with a standing tackle, no more raping in the box. Goalies have improved greatly even if casillas and buffon are in the demo. no more lame lobs it seems. some good saves too. also, players seem to make smarter runs with things like overlapping full-backs and CMs making late runs for chances(de rossi is very handy in this aspect)

looking good, world cup game! fifa 11 is already looking promising.

:P

Star Bingo

i played it there for about an hour. know the drill w/ these footie games ya either play em non stop or not at all; the slightest tweaks can make all the difference. this seems like a win but i said that about the FIFA 10 demo, and once i got the retail version online after a while it was goodbye. still, this seems like the real deal - and the opportunity to play the entire finals online.. how do they get the group stage to work online?! good on em, lookin forward to it.

Sabre0001

Probably just going to wait until FIFA 11 to invest in all these changes but will give the demo a go...

corcaigh07

Star Bingo wrote: »

i played it there for about an hour. know the drill w/ these footie games ya either play em non stop or not at all; the slightest tweaks can make all the difference. this seems like a win but i said that about the FIFA 10 demo, and once i got the retail version online after a while it was goodbye. still, this seems like the real deal - and the opportunity to play the entire finals online.. how do they get the group stage to work online?! good on em, lookin forward to it.

yep, with a few tweaks and much improved graphics, its already a bit better than fifa 10. i was never convinced by fifa 10 in the demo and while im a bit better at the game now, stupid things happen in every game and not necessarily to me.

that said, i probably wont get the game but as a fifa fan, its interesting at least.

Kev_ps3

I thought it was good. Not sure if i'll buy yet, prob wait for reviews.

Krusader

there seems to be a bit more intensity in the game when playing it, like its playing at a faster pace and the atmosphere in the stadium seems to have gone up a notch just like it would in a real WC. Nice to get different commentry aswell

Raekwon

I downloaded it and played it for the last hour or so on my PS3 and like the OP said the presentation is a huge leap from FIFA10 and the players look extremely realistic in the atmosphere is great (national anthems, confetti on the pitch etc). But overall I feel that this is basically FIFA10 with a facelift, the controls feel exactly the same and apart from the graphics I don't see any drastic changes or more importantly improvements.

Parawind

Yeah i wasn't all that impressed, gameplay wise the changes are very minor.

They seem to have improved the defensive AI so that its easier to stop one touch passing, the goalkeepers are staying on their lines so far and a bit more variety in where shots go too. But tbh it just seems like its FIFA 10.1, so minor are the changes.

corcaigh07

Parawind wrote: »

Yeah i wasn't all that impressed, gameplay wise the changes are very minor.

They seem to have improved the defensive AI so that its easier to stop one touch passing, the goalkeepers are staying on their lines so far and a bit more variety in where shots go too. But tbh it just seems like its FIFA 10.1, so minor are the changes.

its a start anyways!

v3ttel

The menus and GUI are much nicer than FIFA 10, the atmosphere with the horns in the background is class, the camera angles make the manual celebrations look less retarded than they currently do....

Having said that, the gameplay is basically the exact same. The only difference is that the keepers don't charge out as much as in FIFA 10. The shooting seems slightly, slightly different.

Looks like they have included every nation from WC qualifying so theres a good selection. I wonder if they have made a balls of the online world cup, same as they've done with Ultimate team tournaments (where if someone quits you don't get the win), which is f*cking lunacy.

It is basically FIFA 10 with nicer menus and no club teams. Definitely will not buy if they've made a balls oft he online WC.

Krusader

have to say that Clive Tyldsley's commentary is class in it, especially in scoring opportunities. Townsend doesn't say much which is probably a good thing

Mikeyt086

I love it.

Its incredibly hard to judge from 2min halfs, so ive played around 25 quick matches since yesterday. Here are the improvements ive noticed:

- Presentation. This game looks amazing.
- Player faces. I went for an instant replay close up and Xabi Alonso was freakishly accurate.
- Goalkeeping. Yes they stay on their line, BUT, reaction saves have been introduced, Buffon made an outrageous save after sticking his leg out.
- Atmosphere. It really feels like a World Cup match, the fans in the crowd were a nice addition. Also, the new celebration thing where it zooms in on the scorer makes it far more dramatic.
- Managers. Saw a video where Trappattonni was complaining
- Passing. "Ping pong" is alot harder, which is great, through balls are also much more intellegent.
- Defending. Much more intellegent overall.
- Penalties. Wow. I ****ING LOVE THE NEW SYSTEM. Here it is for those who havent taken one or saved one yet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rHNE7Qk0jA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4KkuKhJ_60

This is a definate purchase for me. I am a FIFA junkie, but if im not satisified i wont shell out, but i am satisfied with this. The online World Cup sounds amazing and I love the Captain Your Country mode, both of which return from Euro 2008.

Parawind

Am i the only one who thinks the confetti looks so stupid on the pitch, its so evenly spread out and with very little variety. I mean i know its just an overlay but it just makes it look so fake.

corcaigh07

Parawind wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks the confetti looks so stupid on the pitch, its so evenly spread out and with very little variety. I mean i know its just an overlay but it just makes it look so fake.

ya its silly alright but it isnt too annoying. those bloody horns though are another level of annoying altogether

v3ttel

corcaigh07 wrote: »

ya its silly alright but it isnt too annoying. those bloody horns though are another level of annoying altogether

Love them, they really make it feel authentic South Africa!

Star Bingo

Parawind wrote: »

Am i the only one who thinks the confetti looks so stupid on the pitch, its so evenly spread out and with very little variety. I mean i know its just an overlay but it just makes it look so fake.

yup. just gonna fiddle w/ this..

Parawind wrote: »

I mean i know its just an overlay, it makes it look so fake

if it were actual pieces - albeit in a game - i'd be ok w/ it, but it disappears at certain low angles

corcaigh07 wrote: »

ya its silly alright but it isnt too annoying. those bloody horns though are another level of annoying altogether

had a chuckle at the 'vuvuzela volume' option in the audio settings


anyone notice the dramatic improvement in lighting? on player faces in the cutscenes, but mainly daylight. matches previously looked horrible in daytime. don't wanna count my chickens, made that mistake w/ the 10 demo but this feels like the real deal each time i come back to it. desperate to get it online for the litmus test.. in full WC tournament mode

ironictoaster

Rooney10 wrote: »

Love them, they really make it feel authentic South Africa!

Wait until in the actual WC is on. They were bloody annoying in the confredations cup. Sounds likes a swarm of bees.

AttackThePoster

Release date for this?

30/31st... another while yet

AttackThePoster

Thanks. Not that far away

citytillidie

AttackThePoster wrote: »

Release date for this?

2 weeks today.

joe123

Have to say I like the demo. While its minor they seem to have brought back a more solid feel to the players when defending. My biggest gripe with ten this year was the flimsyness of the defenders but it definitely feels more solid now and more realistic.

Shooting seems a bit off but the graphics up close are a huge improvement.

I love the atmosphere in the game and the horns sound great. They are god awful in real life though.

Wont be buying it but hopefully Fifa 11 will be a big improvement on fifa 10.

T-b0n3

A lot of people seem to be complaining that its just "Fifa 10.1", "very few changes", "just minor improvements" etc.

Am I the only one who actually wants this? I don't want a totally different game than Fifa 10. I love Fifa 10, I want them to make it better though. I certainly don't want a completely changed game ever year. I want a game thats improved on until its as close to perfect as possible. By changing a lot each year they are bound to get things wrong. At least this way they can improve on what needs to be improved on and leave other things the way there are if they are working. Plus then you don't have to completely adjust each year to a 'new' game.

I know me and my friends who play Fifa 10 regularly together all feel this way at least.

Opinions?

Edit: By the way I haven't actually played the demo yet. Just reading on here and other reviews, but I know i certainly happy with Fifa 10 plus improvements and WC mode etc. I would not be particularity happy with a completely new game, unless of course they got everything SPOT on, which I don't see ever happening.

Parawind

Yeah i see what your saying but are such minor changes worth spending €60 on? Especially since you know a better football game will be out in another 6 months, its more a question of value for money then anything else. If they expect us to pay for a game, i expect there to be enough new content and improvements to make it worth getting. The things they have improved in world cup 2010 could and should have been patched in fifa 10.

T-b0n3

Parawind wrote: »

Yeah i see what your saying but are such minor changes worth spending €60 on? Especially since you know a better football game will be out in another 6 months, its more a question of value for money then anything else. If they expect us to pay for a game, i expect there to be enough new content and improvements to make it worth getting. The things they have improved in world cup 2010 could and should have been patched in fifa 10.

Completely agree with where your coming from with value for money. But I know me and my friends would get the value out of it tbh. But also I can't really talk because I have a modded Xbox... don't know how much more I'm allowed say

corcaigh07

T-b0n3 wrote: »

A lot of people seem to be complaining that its just "Fifa 10.1", "very few changes", "just minor improvements" etc.

Am I the only one who actually wants this? I don't want a totally different game than Fifa 10. I love Fifa 10, I want them to make it better though. I certainly don't want a completely changed game ever year. I want a game thats improved on until its as close to perfect as possible. By changing a lot each year they are bound to get things wrong. At least this way they can improve on what needs to be improved on and leave other things the way there are if they are working. Plus then you don't have to completely adjust each year to a 'new' game.

I know me and my friends who play Fifa 10 regularly together all feel this way at least.

Opinions?

Edit: By the way I haven't actually played the demo yet. Just reading on here and other reviews, but I know i certainly happy with Fifa 10 plus improvements and WC mode etc. I would not be particularity happy with a completely new game, unless of course they got everything SPOT on, which I don't see ever happening.

yep i can see your point, i would have much preferred a Fifa 09.1 rather than Fifa 10.

T-b0n3

corcaigh07 wrote: »

yep i can see your point, i would have much preferred a Fifa 09.1 rather than Fifa 10.

Not sure if your being sarcastic or not?

As far as I can remember 10 wasnt too much of a change on 09 was it?

Definitely prefer Fifa 10 to Fifa 09 though. The ability to run twice as many directions alone makes a huge difference.

corcaigh07

nope i meant it, 09 was pretty darn good, 10 broke more things than it fixed.

T-b0n3

corcaigh07 wrote: »

nope i meant it, 09 was pretty darn good, 10 broke more things than it fixed.

Can't really remember 09 too well at this stage, but I know I was happy with 10 and the improvements it brought with it. Really looking forward to this World Cup game now.

In what way do you think 10 went backwards??

Miguele1

i have played this demo and i like it.. graphic is much better than FIFA10

corcaigh07

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Can't really remember 09 too well at this stage, but I know I was happy with 10 and the improvements it brought with it. Really looking forward to this World Cup game now.

In what way do you think 10 went backwards??

10 broke the goalies, stupid running from the line without any prompt. hence new "manual" chip :rolleyes:
AI is even more stupid than ever, no natural AI runs from wing backs etc, crazy defending as well. atttacking requires a lot of one-twos, more than before.
Shooting has got a bit worse too and finesse shooting has got too important.
Graphics in 10 are actually a lot worse than 09. thankfully, the world cup game looks great.

BUT-10 did fix some things too, speed isnt as important in 10 and long ball passing and crossing is much improved. the 360 movement also improves things, especially for the world class players like messi etc...

T-b0n3

Yea the manual chip thing is just too easy. Its like cheating. And it can be very hard to counter act at times. Hopefully thats fixed in the world cup game. I'm actually really looking forward to it. Hope it doesn't let me down.

speedboatchase

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Yea the manual chip thing is just too easy. Its like cheating. And it can be very hard to counter act at times. Hopefully thats fixed in the world cup game. I'm actually really looking forward to it. Hope it doesn't let me down.

Seems like it is from the demo and I read the developers saying they've stopped AI keepers running off their lines so much

Really looking forward to this since i traded in 10 a few weeks back, i'm hoping for one major difference.

This ''momentum'' crap better be gone and i'd bet my house it is, IMO it's linked to the Adidas Live Season and has been there only the past two years. I'm talking about when after a goal or random moment, your players(not all as well) start to play terrible, can't pass, miss sitters, get harder (and slower) to control, can't win tackles(ball goes to another opposition player).

There was a LOT of talk about this since last year on the official forum, with EA denying it exists and when your players fall apart it's down to you alone(doesn't explain how the passing goes to **** as you have no real control over that anyway), but it's pretty clear when it does go against you, and for you too.

IMO it's linked to ALS, this code is already incorperated into the game where your players can play better or worse, use a player with full green boost and try him with full red and you'll see the difference, it's like at a point through the game it alters..... the WC game won't have LS in it, the first time since Euro 08 so i expect that problem to have disappeared.

*Hank Scorpio*

Is Trap modelled ingame?

Moiph

He better be!

bevan619

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

Is Trap modelled ingame?

Yes he is. He looks pretty good :P

mystic86

bevan619 wrote: »

Yes he is. He looks pretty good :P

Wait, how do you know? Do you already have it? Where did u get it this early??

Krusader

is this out friday

Lamposts

Yeah, it's out this Friday.

*Hank Scorpio*

I hope Tesco do a deal. Not paying full whack for it. Any screens or vids of Trap ingame?

SRFC90

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

I hope Tesco do a deal. Not paying full whack for it. Any screens or vids of Trap ingame?

Probs only be coaches of World Cup qualified teams that are in it. Doubt every coach will be in it, with Estonia, and Afghanistan and the likes!

bevan619

mystic86 wrote: »

Wait, how do you know? Do you already have it? Where did u get it this early??

Yeah I have it. I won the cup in about 2 hours I have my sources...

bevan619

SRFC90 wrote: »

Probs only be coaches of World Cup qualified teams that are in it. Doubt every coach will be in it, with Estonia, and Afghanistan and the likes!

Trap is in it!

*Hank Scorpio*

*Hank Scorpio* wrote: »

I hope Tesco do a deal. Not paying full whack for it. Any screens or vids of Trap ingame?

HMV for games these days, all the last few AAA games have been E45

parker kent

gilberto_eire wrote: »

This ''momentum'' crap better be gone.

Am I alone for liking this? It makes it feel a bit more realistic. I like that you can build up a head of steam when playing well or that you have to deal with a team that falls to bits at other times.

Edit: Downloaded the demo for WC2010, I thought it was too fast at first compared to FIFA 10. Tried it at a slower paced game though and really enjoyed it. I just want to see that gold trophy in Robbie's hands!

Be good to get a tournament going, i assume the game will feature a proper online set up.
Even just with 16 players, or maybe even 8(semis and a final) would work. It would eliminate the potential for quitters ruining it, as when someones out of contention it would be too late for them to effect the overall running of the cup.
Also gives people something to play for in every game and could be played in one night.

Many getting this on the PS3 up for trying to organise some tournaments?

AidySevenfold

yeah does anyone know if Tesco will be selling it for 30 or 35 euro? :pac:

Gamer Bhoy 89

....rather, does anyone in Waterford know if it's gettin released a day early?! :P Harvey Normans sometimes do that sort of thing