Leaving Cert. subject choice

thetonynator

Don't know if this is the right place to post but anyway . . .

I have to have my leaving cert subject choice made by next week, and I have no idea what i want to do with my life.

I am goingt to do ( obviously Irish english maths) french, probably chemistry, and then either Biology or ag science for the 3rd choice ( I am from a farming background so ag science might be good) and then either economics, history or geography as the last one. I might do something in science or business in college but i'm not sure.


Any advice as to what i should pick???

RHunce

in my opinion a good spread would be

english
irish
maths
language

then..

one science
either geog/hist
one business!

this leaves your options wode open for college.. wish i had put more thought into my subject choices, i have no sciences and most courses i want to do require one science. good move starting early and asking

MaighEoAbu

thetonynator wrote: »

Don't know if this is the right place to post but anyway . . .

I have to have my leaving cert subject choice made by next week, and I have no idea what i want to do with my life.

I am goingt to do ( obviously Irish english maths) french, probably chemistry, and then either Biology or ag science for the 3rd choice ( I am from a farming background so ag science might be good) and then either economics, history or geography as the last one. I might do something in science or business in college but i'm not sure.


Any advice as to what i should pick???

Really wouldn't pick Chemistry unless you want to do Veterinary. I guarantee you Biology is a lot nicer than Chemistry. I do both. I also recommend that you do Agricultural Science ( I do that too ) and I love it. All about stuff you learn in Geography and Biology so it makes it easier. There's stuff about animals, etc, and I honestly love it! Also, the project is 25 % so you can have 25% in the bag before the exam. Remember there's an oral but that's only based on your project to make sure you were marked right in it.

I do geography, and love it too! Would definitely not recommend History ( long course, big workload ), or economics, ( I was gonna do that but decided there were a lot of people who didn't like it out there and very difficult parts of the course, etc.


So, I would say if you chose Biology, Geography and Agricultural science, you would not regret it.

MaighEoAbu

Oh yeah, pm if you want and I can help you more. Also, I forgot to mention that Biology, Geography and Agricultural Science all compliment each other. It's like just doing two subjects because so much of the workload is shared. For example, we did Genetics in Agricultural Science and then a couple of weeks later we did it in Biology. Genetics is one of the hardest parts of the course in Biology, but it has been easiest for me so far because we had already done it! Then we did a whole chapter on rocks in Agricultural Science and then did it again in Geography. :)

thetonynator

thanks for all the advice really helpful :pac:

fannyadams

Hi guys i'm skipping TY and my subject choices for 5th year are coming up next week.. I am thinking Geography, Biology, French and Construction Studies What do ye think?

Bazinga_N

fannyadams wrote: »

Hi guys i'm skipping TY and my subject choices for 5th year are coming up next week.. I am thinking Geography, Biology, French and Construction Studies What do ye think?

Okay well firstly what are you thinking of doing after school?

Secondly I'm just saying that a ton of people that do Construction Studies say they hated it... But it might be just my school's construction teacher :P Definately do French and a Science (it really doesn't matter which one.. But Biology is all about rote learning really... whereas Chemistry and Physics are all about Understanding).. The last two are really your interests! Thats my opinion anyways!

fannyadams

Bazinga_N wrote: »

Okay well firstly what are you thinking of doing after school?

Secondly I'm just saying that a ton of people that do Construction Studies say they hated it... But it might be just my school's construction teacher :P

Well i'm thinking of something in health or something like that? Our school has two really good constructions teachers and i'm guaranteed one of them and plus i really liked woodwork

Bears and Vodka

fannyadams wrote: »

Our school has two really good constructions teachers and i'm guaranteed one of them and plus i really liked woodwork

Good construction teachers are a bonus of course but keep in mind Construction is very different from woodwork. The only place where your woodwork knowledge will be useful is when making your project + portfolio and when doing your day exam. Other than that, its all new material. You will basically learn how to build a typical Irish house from the foundations right up to the roof and wiring, plumbing etc

fannyadams

I love that kind of stuff tho Its french i'm worried about, I got a B in the mocks in higher level and i know its good but the leaving cert higher level is just so hard.

Neodymium

I would suggest chemistry over biology. Biology is a very long course and does not go into much detail about anything really. If you end up choosing biology you will spend your time mindlessly rote learning definitions and having very little understanding of why a particular process happens because. Chemistry on the other hand is a more concise and focused course where you will be understanding key concepts such as redox reactions, enthalpy changes, the mole and many others and applying your knowledge to synthesise more. In chemistry you learn why and how certain things happen instead of the biology approach of 'it happens because it happens'. Also chemistry will be much more useful to you in college if you choose to do a chemistry/biology related course, even some medicine courses require you to have done chemistry while have no requirement for having studied biology.

If you want to learn a little about a lot - choose biology. If you want to learn a lot about a little - choose chemistry.

I would only suggest doing construction if you really like it. I ended up doing construction because I didn't want to do French and construction was the only other option in my school. I personally don't particularly like the subject, I think it as abysmally boring - water treatment systems, foundations, plumbing --- uuugh, and the worst part of all - getting covered in bloody sawdust every practical class and walking around for the rest of the day with people thinking your wearing some kind of wood smelling aftershave or something . If you think you will like it do it, it just wasn't my cup of tea, except for calculating u-values and the price of heating a home for a year, they were quite fun actually.

I don't do any business related subjects but from what I've heard business studies is the most mind numbing of all of them. Accounting, from what I have heard is the more enjoyable and I don't know anything really about economics.

As a final addendum if you or anyone else of thinking of doing any maths/physics/engineering course in college if applied maths is offered in your school then do it. It is by far the best subject choice you can make for any of these technical subjects. I don't do it but I wish I had. I do physics outside of school and after looking at the applied maths course I think it would have been more useful to me, not that physics is irrelevant.

ohsurelook

I was thinking of these:

French (I enjoy it and it'd be useful)
History (I actually LIKE long essay writing and the subject's enjoyable)
Chemistry (Favourite of the sciences)

and then either:
Economics/Music/Physics

fannyadams

In my science mocks I got 110/130 in biology section and got 26/130 in chemistry. I hate it. How do you study french tho it requires so much effort

gfgfgf14

The most important thing to do is to do subjects you enjoy

eyescreamcone

gfgfgf14 wrote: »

The most important thing to do is to do subjects you enjoy

I would have thought the most important thing is to choose subjects you will score best in

spurious

eyescreamcone wrote: »

I would have thought the most important thing is to choose subjects you will score best in

Many people make that mistake.

Will you choose your college course on the same basis?

Canard

Often you do well in what you like

eyescreamcone

spurious wrote: »

Many people make that mistake.

Will you choose your college course on the same basis?

YOU might think it's a mistake!
However, I don't!
Those with the highest points have the greatest choice of college courses so it would seem to me to be important to try and achieve the highest score possible.

Togepi

eyescreamcone wrote: »

gfgfgf14 wrote: »

The most important thing to do is to do subjects you enjoy

I would have thought the most important thing is to choose subjects you will score best in

That depends on your idea of what's important. Is it important to you to get really high points even if you hate what you're studying, or is it more important to be happy and do what you're interested in?

As Patchy~ said, people usually perform far better in subjects they enjoy. Liking what you study makes it far easier to excel in the subject, no matter how 'difficult' it is.

eyescreamcone

That depends on your idea of what's important. Is it important to you to get really high points even if you hate what you're studying, or is it more important to be happy and do what you're interested in?

As Patchy~ said, people usually perform far better in subjects they enjoy. Liking what you study makes it far easier to excel in the subject, no matter how 'difficult' it is.

If you don't get the points you won't be able to choose "what u like/enjoy" at third level.

Choosing subjects that you like to do sounds great but...
It's all about the points!!!

Togepi

eyescreamcone wrote: »

If you don't get the points you won't be able to choose "what u like/enjoy" at third level.

Choosing subjects that you like to do sounds great but...
It's all about the points!!!

Which is why choosing subjects you enjoy is a better option - you'll be more likely to get higher points. Plus, if you study what you're interested in you'll have to more long-term benefit of having already learned about the area you wish to study at third level before even starting college. Unless you're just choosing a college course based on how easy it is too?

And you can get to where you want to be in life without getting 600 points in the Leaving Cert, there are other ways.

0000879k

Whilst I agree with do stuff your good at... to some extenct it's not always a good option. TG I find ridiculously easy.. But I absoloutly hate it! No way I'm picking DCG for next year.

Anways, I think I'll go
English
Irish
Maths

then;
1.Accounting
2.Business
3.French
4.Geography

.. I also plan on doing economics outside of school as an extra subject.

Neodymium

0000879k wrote: »

Whilst I agree with do stuff your good at... to some extenct it's not always a good option. TG I find ridiculously easy.. But I absoloutly hate it! No way I'm picking DCG for next year.

Anways, I think I'll go
English
Irish
Maths

then;
1.Accounting
2.Business
3.French
4.Geography

.. I also plan on doing economics outside of school as an extra subject.

Your are severely restricting your choices of college courses without having at least one science subject.

Canard

Neodymium wrote: »

Your are severely restricting your choices of college courses without having at least one science subject.

I have no science subjects and havent ever regretted it, nothing I've thought of has required one. science courses seems to be the only thing.

0000879k

I don't like science.. at all, I don't want to study it in greater detail for two years, then 4 years then use it every day for the rest of my life.
Forgive me if that doesn't make sense.

Jackobyte

Patchy~ wrote: »

I have no science subjects and havent ever regretted it, nothing I've thought of has required one. science courses seems to be the only thing.

Ya, but pretty much all Science courses require one. And there are a hell of a lot of science courses.

That said, I'm doing the three core sciences. I find Biology by far the easiest, I barely have to work for it and always do well where Physics and Chemistry fluctuate massively with the amount of study put in.

Neodymium

Patchy~ wrote: »

I have no science subjects and havent ever regretted it, nothing I've thought of has required one. science courses seems to be the only thing.

Almost every science/engineering/medical course requires you to have at least one science subject. I was just saying that science and engineering courses make up a large percentage of college courses which you would be ineligible of doing.

@ 0000879K - If you are picking subjects for the leaving cert. you are probably 15/16 years old and by time you are finished school your entire outlook on life and your aspirations will probably have changed dramatically, which is why it is better to keep your choices open. I would recommend replacing one of your business subjects (is three really necessary?) with a science subject.

0000879k

Neodymium wrote: »

Almost every science/engineering/medical course requires you to have at least one science subject. I was just saying that science and engineering courses make up a large percentage of college courses which you would be ineligible of doing.

@ 0000879K - If you are picking subjects for the leaving cert. you are probably 15/16 years old and by time you are finished school your entire outlook on life and your aspirations will probably have changed dramatically, which is why it is better to keep your choices open. I would recommend replacing one of your business subjects (is three really necessary?) with a science subject.

I could say the same to jackobyte about science... ''Is three really necessary'' ??

And please don't give me that crap about my age, I'm 15 which may seem young but that doesn't mean I'm immature.

QueenOfLeon

Patchy~ wrote: »

I have no science subjects and havent ever regretted it, nothing I've thought of has required one. science courses seems to be the only thing.

There's a handy part of www.qualifax.ie* that shows you what courses do and don't need certain subjects. Follow this link, go to Leaving Cert Subjects, and then in the drop down menu you have a variety of choices along with all the subjects, like "3rd language" or "Science subject".

Science subject gives you these results:

Definitely requires: A Science Subject- Total of 163 courses
May require: A Science Subject - Total of 65 courses
Does not require A Science Subject - Total of 1095 courses

0000879k, if you are completely sure that you don't want any of those courses then just pick the subjects you can do best in points-wise. If in a few years time you've changed your mind, you can always repeat the science subject on its own.

Have a look through the courses though, there are some that you wouldn't expect science to be needed for.

*Qualifax seems to be having some sort of technical difficulties with scrolling down the page, but if you hold down the mouse and move it down as if you are selecting the text you'll be able to move down the page.

Togepi

I decided not to do a science for the Leaving, and didn't regret it until I went back to repeat and took one up. However, having said that, I still don't actually need the subject for what I want to do, although it will be very useful.

@0000879k I was very mature for my age when I picked my subjects too, but I made two or three terrible decisions with my choices, and I definitely regret them.

Jackobyte

0000879k wrote: »

I could say the same to jackobyte about science... ''Is three really necessary'' ??

The difference between doing three business and three science is that there are practically no courses (2 I think) that have a business subject as a requirement, compared to 163 for science, so I really wasn't limiting myself all that much. I was also, and continue to be, sure that I will go down some form of Maths/Science route at 3rd Level.

Neodymium

0000879k wrote: »

I could say the same to jackobyte about science... ''Is three really necessary'' ??

And please don't give me that crap about my age, I'm 15 which may seem young but that doesn't mean I'm immature.

First of all, I never suggested for you to do three science subjects, If you read my post you would see that I said that you could swap one of your business subjects for a science subjects.

Secondly, nowhere did I mention that you were immature, I only mentioned that your viewpoints will change when you become older.

A famous quote from Muhammad Ali: "A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. " This is the same case, just your timeline is shorter.

And to be honest, your reaction seemed quite immature to me, I was only trying to give you some advice. :rolleyes:

0000879k

Neodymium wrote: »

First of all, I never suggested for you to do three science subjects, If you read my post you would see that I said that you could swap one of your business subjects for a science subjects.

Secondly, nowhere did I mention that you were immature, I only mentioned that your viewpoints will change when you become older.

A famous quote from Muhammad Ali: "A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life. " This is the same case, just your timeline is shorter.

And to be honest, your reaction seemed quite immature to me, I was only trying to give you some advice. :rolleyes:

First of all, I wouldn't live my life by the words of a man with an IQ of 78. Secondly, the reason that may have 'seemed immature' to you is because I did not ask anyone's advice yet you gave me some... that I did not need.

cathalio11

0000879k wrote: »

First of all, I wouldn't live my life by the words of a man with an IQ of 78. Secondly, the reason that may have 'seemed immature' to you is because I did not ask anyone's advice yet you gave me some... that I did not need.

That was a pretty snobby comment.
That makes you more knowledgeable than anybody with a less IQ than you then?

Filled out my subject choice today. Was reluctant to do a Science subject instead of Business Studies but did so as I don't want to be extremely restricted.

English
Irish
Maths
French
Accounting
Economics
Physics
Applied Maths

Neodymium

0000879k wrote: »

First of all, I wouldn't live my life by the words of a man with an IQ of 78. Secondly, the reason that may have 'seemed immature' to you is because I did not ask anyone's advice yet you gave me some... that I did not need.

If you didn't want anyone's advice then why did you post your subject choices in a thread asking about leaving cert. subject choices. And even if you didn't want the advice, maybe someone else in a similar situation to yours could have found it useful, which still doesn't excuse the immaturity of your response.

And on your remark about Ali, yes he did have an iq of 78, but if you actually researched past the first google search which you made you would have learned that he took the iq test when he was 25 in a conscription centre for the vietnam war, a war which he did not agree with and he could have purposefully did badly on that test as not to be made join the military. He was even offered a position as a lecturer in poetry at Oxford. If you achieve even a portion of the things which he achieved, you would have lived a good life. Maybe do some research before you make ignorant comments.

Just another quote for you by Einstein: “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” Does he have a high enough iq for you?

Canard

cathalio11 wrote: »

That was a pretty snobby comment.
That makes you more knowledgeable than anybody with a less IQ than you then?

Filled out my subject choice today. Was reluctant to do a Science subject instead of Business Studies but did so as I don't want to be extremely restricted.

English
Irish
Maths
French
Accounting
Economics
Physics
Applied Maths

I might be wrong, but doesnt applied maths count as a science? even still, business is quite tedious and physics is a good idea for applied maths.

Midlife Crashes

I'm planning on doing law when I finish school, what subjects would you suggest studying.?

PictureFrame

cathalio11 wrote: »

That was a pretty snobby comment.
That makes you more knowledgeable than anybody with a less IQ than you then?

Filled out my subject choice today. Was reluctant to do a Science subject instead of Business Studies but did so as I don't want to be extremely restricted.

English
Irish
Maths
French
Accounting
Economics
Physics
Applied Maths

If you know for sure you don't want to do Science/Healthcare etc. why would not doing a Science subject restrict you? I don't do a Science Subject, nor Higher Level Maths for that matter. I do 2 business subjects, a language, Music and Geography. Best decision I ever made not doing Science, you'll regret it if you're sure you do Science and know you don't want to go down that route, it's way too much hassle!

cathalio11

PictureFrame wrote: »

If you know for sure you don't want to do Science/Healthcare etc. why would not doing a Science subject restrict you? I don't do a Science Subject, nor Higher Level Maths for that matter. I do 2 business subjects, a language, Music and Geography. Best decision I ever made not doing Science, you'll regret it if you're sure you do Science and know you don't want to go down that route, it's way too much hassle!

I exaggerated a tiny bit for advice purposes

I like the thought of learning about Physics and everything like that and I love Maths. My desire to do Physics and Business were basically equal so I went with Physics for a bit of variety. Complements Applied Maths very well too!

starlit

OP, I think it be wise to have a combination of choosing your options subjects that you like, score well in and be useful for a college course you want to do.

When I did the leaving cert a few years ago, I was probably lucky I chose my option subjects according to the ones I liked, good at, would score well in and would be useful in college. Which were Geography (liked, favourite subject, scored well in), Home Economics (did not like, one of my best subjects, scored well in) and Business (liked, subject was useful for my college course, did well in)

I did the LCVP meaning I had to choose modules either Home Ec and something, Either two science subjects or two Business subjects or one of each, art was an option with one of them I think was Home Ec. I went with Home Ec and Business. While I'd have liked to have done History and Geography as I had an interest in the two subjects. I could only do one of them due to me doing the LCVP but if I didn't do the LCVP I probably would have done the two but might have still have gone with the subjects I picked in the end.

For you I say I would go for these combination for option subjects:
Either Business or Accounting or both not sure what you could do with economics unless you really like it and good at it, I think Accounting be more useful than business but either one or two of them be fine
Either Biology or physics maybe applied maths or two of them, I don't think chemistry have much use really but depends if you want to go down the food science route
Either History or Geography or both if you really enjoy them, Geography is classed as a science subject I think and it be more useful for the course you be interested in though make sure you clarify with the course requirements that Geography is classed as a science subject for that course you want as requirements can vary from course to course. Not just cause I have done Geography for the leaving, I'd highly recommend doing it for the leaving as it be handy for your college course. If the course is very scientific go with more than more science course and either humanity or business course for your other subject. You can always change your mind at some point or do an extra subject in a grind school.

I don't know if having a foreign language make a difference for your course though and career path might be handy but I just go with one foreign language one of which you like, enjoy and good at or at least try your best in. Unless it a requirement to have for your course, you be best to do a language, I recommend French or at least a European Language anyway. Depends if your school makes students do a language for the leaving that be different, you must do a language other wise.

If you into maths do subjects in those areas, if into languages do subjects in those areas, if into science go with subjects in those areas if into business go with those subjects if into humanity subjects go with them. Especially if you really good at them!

So basically have
Business/Accounting/Economics
Biology/Physics/Applied Maths
History/Geography

I definitely recommend one science subject, one humanity subject and one business subject but its up to you really if you want a combination of two of them and one other one.


I think people make the mistake on focusing on what they score best in or best at mainly, or just go with subjects for the sake of a college course (unless its a requirement to have a science subject or two science subjects that would be understandable, different for a business course you don't necessary have to have one or two business subjects but be wise to have at least if not two but three might be a bit much as you might get sick of having three similar subjects).

I think the combination of all of subjects you like, good at and score well in and be handy for college, the combination of them is better you get to do a subject you like, do well in and be handy for your college course, great if you can pick at least two subjects that have combination of two or three of the things that might influence your decision.

No point doing a subject you'd hate or wouldn't be good at for the sake of having a science subject for your course or at least pick a science subject you like/good at/score in or could do your best in at least. Go with at least one subject you like, one subject you are good at and one subject be useful for your college course is probably the best way to go and make your choice of subjects easier for you.

Do a lot of research, ask students who have done the Leaving and who are doing or have done the course you wish to do best way to get informed and from your own experiences from school. What subjects you decide now could have or may not have a huge bearing on your career so think about that though the subjects you choose, choose for you as well as for your course and your future.

Best of luck with your decision OP

starlit

Midlife Crashes wrote: »

I'm planning on doing law when I finish school, what subjects would you suggest studying.?

I've a friend who studied law. I studied law as a module in college and I'd recommend History and Economics as possible subjects to go for but go for subjects you like and good at not just subjects handy for college unless certain subjects are a requirement. I say Accounting or Business might be handy subjects as well as there are some law courses that have a combination of law and accounting say. Depending what Law course you plan to do.

Jackobyte

cathalio11 wrote: »

I exaggerated a tiny bit for advice purposes

I like the thought of learning about Physics and everything like that and I love Maths. My desire to do Physics and Business were basically equal so I went with Physics for a bit of variety. Complements Applied Maths very well too!

If you had decided on Applied Maths already, Physics would be a no brainer. As my App. maths teacher says, with Physics, HL Maths and App. Maths, you get 3 subjects for the price of two. After applied maths, Physics linear motion, collision, (fill in relevant mechanics topic) questions seem like pass applied maths questions. It's such a huge advantage.

Togepi

0000879k wrote: »

First of all, I wouldn't live my life by the words of a man with an IQ of 78. Secondly, the reason that may have 'seemed immature' to you is because I did not ask anyone's advice yet you gave me some... that I did not need.

Wow, this is interesting. On my wall in my room I have some fantastic Muhammed Ali quotes, and right beside them, some Einstein quotes. Ali's are just as good, in fact I find them more inspirational and motivational than Einstein's. (Sorry for going a little off-topic, it's just that comment was fairly ignorant and rude so I thought if reply.)

And you did ask for advice, so as bad as your fist comment was, your second one was just a downright lie.

cathalio11

Jackobyte wrote: »

If you had decided on Applied Maths already, Physics would be a no brainer. As my App. maths teacher says, with Physics, HL Maths and App. Maths, you get 3 subjects for the price of two. After applied maths, Physics linear motion, collision, (fill in relevant mechanics topic) questions seem like pass applied maths questions. It's such a huge advantage.

Aye, read that from the forums here in the last few weeks so was delighted to be doing Physics and Applied Maths!

KirkCheated09

How are ya's lads.. bit of controversy here but I'm gonna ignore it anf be selfish for moment :P

Anyway I was thinking of doing French Business Geography and Accounting.. but my guidance counsellor said I may not get both business' as there may not be a class for both so I really need to put some thought into my number 5 spot.

I was looking for a handy enough subject as I know I want to do business as a career so I don't want to pick a subject for career path just for handiness.
If your reasonably intelligent and good maths, would Physics be good? BTW my science teacher is the Physics teacher and he's really good so no problems on that side of things.

Anyway.. back to the topic of quotes.. here's a relevant one;
''Tact is the art of making a point without making an enemy.''
Sir Isaac Newton.
*Interesting fact about Newton, he was not always smart, after being beaten up by a bully, he fought him and won, but was not satisfied so he decided to humiliate the bully academically also.

eyescreamcone

Any truth that Latin is the easiest subject in the Leaving Cert??
Someone told me that 1 in 3 get an A
Any truth in this?

Can you swop Latin for your European language??
Would you need to do it for the junior cert to take it on for the LC??

starlit

I honestly don't know, unless you have a flare for it would you consider doing it to be honest. It wouldn't be much use unless you are going to use it for when you go to college or for a future career. It not much use in today's world.
If you were to go for a European Language either the typical French, German, Italian and Spanish be easier to pass than Latin. Anyone I know who did latin didn't do great in it yet they were good at other languages!

French, Spanish or German be more useful as be used in more than one country. While Italian isn't that hard a language to learn. Russian, Japanese or Chinese or Scandinavian language be more tricky and challenging I'd go with either a European Language or different foreign language than Latin as you probably get more use of them if you ever travel or work abroad.

I'd imagine so you probably need to have done it in junior cert before doing it for leaving cert depends on your school and what college you plan to go to and what course you like to go for.
Though I know some did two languages both french and german whether or not they did both for JC can't remember but they did both for LC as far as I know one did it for both in the JC and the LC while the other didn't do the both for JC just one of them but did the two for LC as she did a law course with foreign languages.

eyescreamcone

doovdela wrote: »

I honestly don't know, unless you have a flare for it would you consider doing it to be honest. It wouldn't be much use unless you are going to use it for when you go to college or for a future career. It not much use in today's world.
If you were to go for a European Language either the typical French, German, Italian and Spanish be easier to pass than Latin. Anyone I know who did latin didn't do great in it yet they were good at other languages!

French, Spanish or German be more useful as be used in more than one country. While Italian isn't that hard a language to learn. Russian, Japanese or Chinese or Scandinavian language be more tricky and challenging I'd go with either a European Langue or different foreign langue than Latin as you probably get more use of them if you ever travel or work abroad.

I'd imagine so you probably need to have done it in junior cert before doing it for leaving cert depends on your school and what college you plan to go to and what course you like to go for.
Though I know some did two languages both french and german whether or not they did both for JC can't remember but they did both for LC as far as I know one did it for both in the JC and the LC while the other didn't do the both for JC but did the two for LC as she did a law course with foreign languages.

An A in Latin is more useful than a B in French or German.

It's not called The Points Race for nothing!

starlit

eyescreamcone wrote: »

An A in Latin is more useful than a B in French or German.

It's not called The Points Race for nothing!

Ya I suppose from that point of view to get your points go with it but just that what might be an easy A for someone else might not be an easy A for you that is all I am saying. Every exam paper is different each year like.
Though I see what you mean that an A in Latin is worth more than a B in another language. Unless you have a flare for it like it be easy but think from personal opinion that Italian be an easier A to get. Up to you entirely like. If the curriculum is easy to pass then go with Latin.

eyescreamcone

Thanks!
I'm just researching at this stage

Bears and Vodka

If you're going the ''highest ratio of A1s'' route then this might be useful. A table showing the % of students that achieved an A grade in each subject in the Leaving in 2011.