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Trilateral Commission coming to Dublin next month

  • 05-04-2010 4:23pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭


    With all the talk lately of how we are being screwed by politicians and bankers id like to see what people think of this international political/banking elite conference which is being held in Dublin next month.A lot of people believe that the real decisions are being made at these conferences such as the Trilateral commissions, Bilderberg meetings and the CFR.
    Do you think that the decissions are made by our politicians? Or are they really being made by these shadow government oligarchs?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,250 ✭✭✭✭Iwasfrozen


    With all the talk lately of how we are being screwed by politicians and bankers id like to see what people think of this international political/banking elite conference which is being held in Dublin next month.A lot of people believe that the real decisions are being made at these conferences such as the Trilateral commissions, Bilderberg meetings and the CFR.
    Do you think that the decissions are made by our politicians? Or are they really being made by these shadow government oligarchs?
    I don't know, but it would be a good opportunity to protest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    With all the talk lately of how we are being screwed by politicians and bankers id like to see what people think of this international political/banking elite conference which is being held in Dublin next month.A lot of people believe that the real decisions are being made at these conferences such as the Trilateral commissions, Bilderberg meetings and the CFR.
    Do you think that the decissions are made by our politicians? Or are they really being made by these shadow government oligarchs?

    The phrase "shadow government oligarchs" makes it pretty obvious where you stand on the question, anyway. However, the real answer is that a lot of what is obviously decided at such meetings has a real impact on our daily lives, but that trying to reduce it to some kind of either/or situation is pretty silly.

    regards,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    The phrase "shadow government oligarchs" makes it pretty obvious where you stand on the question, anyway.

    Yes i am quite disgusted at the fact that politicians and bankers have ruined so many peoples lives.
    Scofflaw wrote: »
    However, the real answer is that a lot of what is obviously decided at such meetings has a real impact on our daily lives, but that trying to reduce it to some kind of either/or situation is pretty silly.

    regards,
    Scofflaw

    Indeed it does have a real impact on our lives.I realise its probably not as straight forward as an either/or situation but i thought i would start off with a fairly basic question so as to get people discussing it, its one of the most important political events of the year yet nobody is even talking about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Yes i am quite disgusted at the fact that politicians and bankers have ruined so many peoples lives.

    I'm sure you are, but that doesn't make the Trilateral Commission important.
    Indeed it does have a real impact on our lives.I realise its probably not as straight forward as an either/or situation but i thought i would start off with a fairly basic question so as to get people discussing it, its one of the most important political events of the year yet nobody is even talking about it.

    Possibly because it's not particularly important.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    With all the talk lately of how we are being screwed by politicians and bankers id like to see what people think of this international political/banking elite conference which is being held in Dublin next month.A lot of people believe that the real decisions are being made at these conferences such as the Trilateral commissions, Bilderberg meetings and the CFR.
    Do you think that the decissions are made by our politicians? Or are they really being made by these shadow government oligarchs?

    Perhaps this is more suited to the conspiracy theories forum?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,582 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    How much do governments actually pay attention to these think tanks?
    I know plenty of stories about how they dictate policy, but in reality?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    kowloon wrote: »
    How much do governments actually pay attention to these think tanks?
    I know plenty of stories about how they dictate policy, but in reality?

    You want to know how much attention the governments pay to these commisions, well heres a quote from Sen. Barry Goldwater who previosly attended the Trilaterals.......

    "The Trilateral commission is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government.The Trilateral commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four power centres of control - political, monetery, intellectual and ecclesiastical"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Truthrevolution: An bhfuil a fhios agat cén duine/ cé na daoine a bheas ag dul ann ón rialtas s'againne?

    Who from our Government will be attending this do you know?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Níl a fhios ag aon duine.....

    Because these meetings are mostly kept secretive, we cant be too sure yet which Irish politicians will be attending but other well known political figures have attended the Trilaterals in the past such as Liam Lawlor, John Bruton, Garret Fitzgerald, Mary Robinson and probably many others....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    An bhfuil dáta socruithe acu mar sin?

    Have they set a date for this even?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Bealtaine 7th-9th, i mBaile átha Cliath.

    As far as i know they havent revealed the venue where it is taking place yet.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Interesting! Do they ever release info on the venue before these types of conventions?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    Perhaps this is more suited to the conspiracy theories forum?

    Perhaps - at least we can see what they think. This is a little bit too "UN-World Government-NWO" US-oriented for an Irish politics forum.

    moderately,
    Scofflaw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Perhaps this is more suited to the conspiracy theories forum?

    Given that it's actually happening I doubt it somehow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    I certainly didn't expect to find myself in the Conspiracy Theories forum on this topic.

    What do the moderators here think?

    We were discussing date and venue and details of an actual upcoming summit/commission type convention of international financiers and government representatives.


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    I'm confused...
    Scofflaw wrote: »
    the real answer is that a lot of what is obviously decided at such meetings has a real impact on our daily lives,

    regards,
    Scofflaw
    Scofflaw wrote: »
    I'm sure you are, but that doesn't make the Trilateral Commission important.



    Possibly because it's not particularly important.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Site Banned Posts: 8,331 ✭✭✭Brown Bomber


    pog it wrote: »
    I certainly didn't expect to find myself in the Conspiracy Theories forum on this topic.

    What do the moderators here think?

    We were discussing date and venue and details of an actual upcoming summit/commission type convention of international financiers and government representatives.

    I'm not a moderator but you don't have to be one to realise that it was a joke, and to be honest an insult to the OP in moving it here, the uötimate downgrade.

    An scheduled International meeting hosted in Dublin which will focus on Ireland's politics and economy is out of place in a Irish politics forum? Don't see the logic.

    Of the Irish representatives present I would imagine

    Richard Conroy
    http://www.muckety.com/Richard-Conroy/83904.muckety

    And Peter Sutherland
    http://www.muckety.com/Peter-Sutherland/3525.muckety

    At the least will attend.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    I was wondering what was going on with all those replies!
    I was thinking why is everyone here being suddenly so dismissive about this group.
    Then i realised it was posted in the political forum and it all made sense.
    Just shows how silly things are getting when a thread about a powerful political group meeting in Ireland around the time our countries economy could go ars3ways is moved from supposed reality to the fictional world of conspiracy theories.

    For those who dont know about this group and consider this to be a CT as appose to real life i will post a few links to bring people up to date.This is literally research i am doing after reading this post.
    Im sure others have much better knowledge but il try.

    Here is the program of their last meeting in Tokyo
    http://www.trilateral.org/annmtgs/programs/09tokyo.htm

    9:15 - 10:30
    THE GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS: THE ROAD FORWARD
    Chair: Yotaro Kobayashi, former Chairman of the Board, Fuji Xerox Co., Ltd., Tokyo
    Panelists:
    Toyoo Gyohten, Special Advisor to the Cabinet; Special Envoy of the Japanese Prime Minister; President, Institute for International Monetary Affairs, Tokyo; Senior Advisor, The Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, Ltd.
    Speaker: E. Gerald Corrigan (pdf 312kb/27pp), Chairman, Goldman Sachs Bank, USA, New York, NY; former President, Federal Reserve Bank of New York
    Rudi Bogni, Director of Old Mutual and of Prospect Publishing; Member of the International Advisory Board of Oxford Analytica; former Chief Executive of Private Banking, UBS, London


    Now we see the chairman for Goldman Sach speaks at these meetings and you can even right click the blue link to read his thoughts.

    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,676634,00.html
    The title of this news report is "How Goldman Sachs helped Greece to mask its true debt"
    Quote
    "Now, though, it looks like the Greek figure jugglers have been even more brazen than was previously thought. "Around 2002 in particular, various investment banks offered complex financial products with which governments could push part of their liabilities into the future," one insider recalled, adding that Mediterranean countries had snapped up such products.
    Greece's debt managers agreed a huge deal with the savvy bankers of US investment bank Goldman Sachs at the start of 2002. The deal involved so-called cross-currency swaps in which government debt issued in dollars and yen was swapped for euro debt for a certain period -- to be exchanged back into the original currencies at a later date."

    Now check out the trilateral commisions meeting in 1999
    http://www.trilateral.org/EURGp/REGMTGS/99ath.htm

    "[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]20h45
    Dinner hosted by the Bank of Greece in the Ancient Agora of the Acropolis
    - Costas Simitis, Prime Minister"

    So can we move this back to the political forums please as there is enough evidence to show that the trilateral commision meeting in dublin could very well be relevant to our financial situation and i would also say detrimental.
    They certainly arent here for the guinness!
    [/FONT]


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,584 ✭✭✭digme


    With all the talk lately of how we are being screwed by politicians and bankers id like to see what people think of this international political/banking elite conference which is being held in Dublin next month.A lot of people believe that the real decisions are being made at these conferences such as the Trilateral commissions, Bilderberg meetings and the CFR.
    Do you think that the decissions are made by our politicians? Or are they really being made by these shadow government oligarchs?
    Governments are not what they used to be,it's all corporations now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    WTF??? Iv ended up back in the looney bin :D

    To be honest i had a feeling the topic would be a little inconvenient for the politics forum, where you have the typical bury-your-head-in-the-sand mentality.Well at least it will be discussed here with an open mind.
    Scofflaw has been trying to shut me out for a while now despite the fact that there are threads talking about Isreal, China, Turkey, Krygyzstan, Reuters, ffs they even discussed the Haiti earthquake being man made in the politics forum recently.Ironically he/she recently closed down my thread apptly named double standards for "ranting" :D

    Curiously,
    Truthrevolution.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    Folks...enough of the allegations and complaints against other forums, their moderators and/or their decisions.

    If you don't want to discuss the topic, please don't post to this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Sorry but I am a long term boards poster and I am not happy that we have been denigrated by Scofflaw to discussing this in the Conspiracy Theories forum. It is not a conspiracy topic.

    Bonkey can you not use your powers to put this aright?

    You are a moderator just like Scofflaw.

    Please.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    You can complain at the Helpdesk, if you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Thanks Flamed Diving. I am doing that straight away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Can we expect this to be returned to its home - Politics forum- any time soon so that we feel comfortable discussing it and increase the chances of others joining in on this topic with us? Isn't that what Boards is all about? Sharing ideas and discussion and learning more about things?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    You should PM the mods, there's no point talking to yourself here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭TalkieWalkie


    uhh whats this thread doing here ?

    Clearly states on the trilateral website they are comin to Dublin

    http://www.trilateral.org/recent.htm


    Ur starting to create you own conspiracy here :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,443 ✭✭✭✭bonkey


    I'll try repeating myself, in the hope that it prevents other steps being necessitated.

    If you don't want to discuss the topic, please don't post to this thread.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭pog it


    Just giving this topic a freshner.

    It is under investigation- I pmed a moderator and hopefully they will put this right. Not discussing the facts of this actual convention in this forum.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mmilo


    The Bilderberg Group is meeting between the 3rd and the 6th of June in Sitges, 35 Km away from Barcelona, there are lots of people planning to meet there at least to give them a welcome and to let them know that we know what is going on.

    In this page it is mentioned that Trilateral Commission are meeting between the 6th and the 10th of May at the Four Seasons Resort, Dublin.

    http://blackop.wordpress.com/2010/04/10/la-trilateral-commission-se-reunira-el-6-de-mayo-en-dublin/

    Is it anything organized in Ireland to welcome them too? I am planning to go on my own but it would be nice to know that Im not alone. Unfornutanely havent heard anyting yet.

    PD I mean a peacefully gathering, silence can be more disturbing than shouting, throwing stones or any other violent protest.

    ádh mór ort, slán :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mmilo


    Members of the Bilderberg group in Ireland

    http://www.bilderberg.org/g/Bild-Ireland.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    Dia duit milo agus fáilte ar an fóram seo.

    Im very sure you will not be alone in your protest.What also needs to be done is people need to start emailing and writing to the papers and newsagencies as well as your local councillors and representatives outline the concerns we have of these groups and their arrival at our doorsteps.The one thing they hate is publicity so lets give them plenty of it!

    I dont mean to rain on your parade here but protesting against these bankers and politicians will not get us very far, the Gardai will ensure that nobody even gets within eyeshot distance.What really needs to be done is people need to get together and form a political movement against these banking aristocracy elite.There are well enough people out there to support such a movement and lets face it any political party who stands against the financial terrorists will get votes.Lord Christopher Mockton last year stated that their was a dire need to form an international anti NWO political party to fight this but nothing seems to have came of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    mmilo wrote: »
    Members of the Bilderberg group in Ireland

    http://www.bilderberg.org/g/Bild-Ireland.html

    Any thoughts on why they keep inviting Irish Attorney generals


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 494 ✭✭Truthrevolution


    enno99 wrote: »
    Any thoughts on why they keep inviting Irish Attorney generals

    Yeah thats kinda buggin me too, we really should be doing our homework on this


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Kippure


    Yeah thats kinda buggin me too, we really should be doing our homework on this



    Sutherland, Peter D. Chair, Goldman Sachs Int., Chair. BP Amoco plc; ex-Commissioner

    Brady, Conor, Editor, The Irish Times

    Bruton, John - Leader of Fine Gael

    Gleeson, Dermot, Attorney General of Ireland

    McDowell, Michael, Chair, Progressive Democrat Party

    Quinn, Lochlann. Chairman, Allied Irish Bank Group

    Apart from these guys, are there any new members to the group.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Kippure wrote: »
    Sutherland, Peter D. Chair, Goldman Sachs Int., Chair. BP Amoco plc; ex-Commissioner

    Brady, Conor, Editor, The Irish Times

    Bruton, John - Leader of Fine Gael

    Gleeson, Dermot, Attorney General of Ireland

    McDowell, Michael, Chair, Progressive Democrat Party

    Quinn, Lochlann. Chairman, Allied Irish Bank Group

    Apart from these guys, are there any new members to the group.

    IRL
    Byrne, David (Attorney general 1997)
    WHO Special Envoy on Global Cornmunicable Diseases; Former Commissioner, European Commission

    http://www.fosar-bludorf.com/bilderberger/Liste.htm

    Paul Gallagher( Attorney general)

    http://www.awarenessunfolds.com/Awareness_Unfolds/Bilderberg/Entries/2009/5/8_Entry_1.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭enno99


    Another for the list

    Garreth Fitzgerald

    Ministerial meetings: briefing documents and reports relating to the Minister’s meetings both at home and abroad and including the Council of Ministers of the EC, European Summit meetings, the United Nations General Assembly, the Organisation for European Cooperation and Development [OECD], and the Bilderberg Conference

    http://www.ucd.ie/archives/html/collections/fitzgerald-garret.html


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mmilo


    pog it wrote: »
    Can we expect this to be returned to its home - Politics forum- any time soon so that we feel comfortable discussing it and increase the chances of others joining in on this topic with us? Isn't that what Boards is all about? Sharing ideas and discussion and learning more about things?


    Totally agree. COnspiracy Theories? :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 mmilo


    mmilo wrote: »
    Totally agree. COnspiracy Theories? :cool:
    Bilderberg 2010 in Sitges, Spain June3-6

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99TrQwUHcgQ&feature=related


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Sitges is a known gay hotspot, in Spain. Are you sure this isn't the Trisexual Commission?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,219 ✭✭✭Lab_Mouse


    Sitges is a known gay hotspot
    By you maybe:pac:First time I have heard of it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,609 ✭✭✭Flamed Diving


    Lab_Mouse wrote: »
    By you maybe:pac:First time I have heard of it!

    Delete, delete!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭480905


    Four Seasons Hotel Dublin - Rates and reservations

    Did a search for the dates in question in May.

    No availability


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Right lads! get the Eggs ready were heading to four seasons :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,511 ✭✭✭saywhatyousee


    sorry guys dont mean to drag thread off title but anyone in dublin watch out and see is there any chemtrails this week or any air traffic for that matter;)i bet the weather will be nice for the weekend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14 Slipperyvin


    Details of the event here http://www.trilateral.org/recent.htm

    Reminds me of Greece last year, look at them now:eek::eek:
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article6283373.ece

    Queue 'Bailout 2011'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭lensman


    http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bilderberg_found_217.html
    Just try to book a room at the Four Seasons Hotel Dublin between the 6th & 10th of may,...you'll be out of luck


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭lensman


    Kippure wrote: »
    Sutherland, Peter D. Chair, Goldman Sachs Int., Chair. BP Amoco plc; ex-Commissioner

    Brady, Conor, Editor, The Irish Times

    Bruton, John - Leader of Fine Gael

    Gleeson, Dermot, Attorney General of Ireland

    McDowell, Michael, Chair, Progressive Democrat Party

    Quinn, Lochlann. Chairman, Allied Irish Bank Group

    Apart from these guys, are there any new members to the group.
    how about this guy ? another one who may well be at the meeting ..Executive Committee member Richard Conroy, Chairman, Conroy Diamonds & Gold, Dublin; recent politicial history FF member of Senate, Republic of Ireland


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,911 ✭✭✭Zombienosh


    ah we're all silly CT's theres nothing to see here, they're having a nice meeting to see who can help us the most, they're like super heros, without the cool costumes thats all.

    Everything's grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,831 ✭✭✭Torakx


    Its interesting that the Bilderberg group had visited Greece the year before its financial problems.
    Since the Bank of Greece had hosted the trilateral commision in 2002 in Athens i had figured that was the start of the planning for this situation.
    I know the chairman for Goldman and Sasch spoke at that meeting and i would imagine he was at the Bilderberg meetings too.

    I was trying to guess when Ireland is going to be hit with something similar to Greece but its so hard to even guess with the 8 year gap Greece had and the potential for Ireland to be ruined in a shorter time.
    8 years sounds like a long wait but maybe thats just how it goes.By the time its already happened it will be too late and maybe they will already be starting another one or two from the profits gained from Greece and Ireland.
    Hard to keep track since this is a job/way of life to these guys and a hobby/education for me.


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