Eddie Jordan

thegoth

Just watching Eddie Jordan give it to martin whitmarsh.

I like Eddie Jordan, but he seems to have something against martin whitmarsh and McLaren. That attack was totally uncalled for

dor83

I enjoyed watching it and being a Ferrari fan I agree with him in what he was saying, McLaren and Ferrari make stupid mistakes yesterday because even we know you should always get a banker lap just in case, after all it's always better to be safe than sorry.

lord lucan

He came across as a tabloid hack to me. It was all a bit over the top and un-called for imo.

frostie500

lord lucan wrote: »

He came across as a tabloid hack to me. It was all a bit over the top and un-called for imo.

He was no more 'hackish' than in the past. Last year EJ really annoyed me, he seemed to say things solely to be controversial to be honest and to be honest in my view this came across in much the same light

thegoth

Used to watch F1 on Setanta last year

kierank01

thegoth wrote: »

That attack was totally uncalled for

But they are muppets for doing what they did, they surely had stronger words within the teams, for what happened.

Grim.

think his just pissed after his wardrobe malfunction

frostie500

kierank01 wrote: »

But they are muppets for doing what they did, they surely had stronger words within the teams, for what happened.

Times the top four teams left the pits in Q1:

Vettel: 16:03.16
Button: 16:08.35
Schumacher: 16:08.48
Hamilton: 16:08.54
Alonso: 16:09.04
Massa: 16.09.30
Webber: 16:09.35
Rosberg: 16:09.46

Webber and Rosberg both left after the Maccas and Ferrari and made it out of Q3, I think there may have been more to this than simply bad timing. Ferrari and Hamilton(probably Button as well) are in all liklihood setup for the dry and that may have cost them the time as much as the deluge

dor83

frostie500 wrote: »

Ferrari and Hamilton(probably Button as well) are in all liklihood setup for the dry and that may have cost them the time as much as the deluge

But does that not make the decision even worse, they knew they weren't set up for wet so surely they should have set a banker lap just in case. We all know that you cant accurately predict the weather so always cover yourself, and if you don't you should admit it and not try to make excuses like Whitmarsh did.

frostie500

dor83 wrote: »

But does that not make the decision even worse, they knew they weren't set up for wet so surely they should have set a banker lap just in case. We all know that you cant accurately predict the weather so always cover yourself, and if you don't you should admit it and not try to make excuses like Whitmarsh did.

But if they were setup for the dry and they thought it was going to dry out why would they go out?

dor83

frostie500 wrote: »

But if they were setup for the dry and they thought it was going to dry out why would they go out?

Like I said, we all know that it is impossible to accurately predict the weather so cover yourself in case you are wrong. Maybe it's just me but both teams took a gamble and it didn't pay off, thats their own fault and they should just admit it rather than Whitmarsh trying to make excuses.

frostie500

dor83 wrote: »

Like I said, we all know that it is impossible to accurately predict the weather so cover yourself in case you are wrong. Maybe it's just me but both teams took a gamble and it didn't pay off, thats their own fault and they should just admit it rather than Whitmarsh trying to make excuses.

But on a dry setup they knew they would be nowhere in the wet so they had to wait for it to start to dry, their setup decision was what made it neccessary for them to attempt to wait it out in the pits.

If they were on a dry setup I would say that they did not have a choice but to wait it out

restaurants

thegoth wrote: »

Just watching Eddie Jordan give it to martin whitmarsh. I like Eddie Jordan, but he seems to have something against martin whitmarsh and McLaren. That attack was totally uncalled for

I agree. Eddie did go a little over the top. There must be some history there.....

dor83

frostie500 wrote: »

But on a dry setup they knew they would be nowhere in the wet so they had to wait for it to start to dry, their setup decision was what made it neccessary for them to attempt to wait it out in the pits.

If they were on a dry setup I would say that they did not have a choice but to wait it out

If they had went out at the start of the session it would have been drier and they would have set faster times than they eventually did, expecting it to dry is ok but to think it was a certainty was stupid. Even with a dry set up they should have covered themselves in case it didn't dry up, but they made the stupid mistake of thinking that the weather prediction was 100% certain of happening.

Oblomov

Eddie Jordan is a failed team owner and manager.. sold out and became a TV Pundit... some of his comments are typical self opinionated egotist.

Just yer normal Eddie Jordan. Nothing special, I can imagine a lot of people on this board doing as good if not better job.

robinph

Jake Humphries and DC just seem to look at each other laughing whenever EJ starts talking, hoping he doesn't make too much of a dick out of himself. It also looks like the rest of the people are now just making a comedy figure out of him with Horner adding to the coments about him on the grid and afterwards as well.

He really annoyed me last year, this year he just apears to be the comedy sidekick.

liam7831

thegoth wrote: »

Just watching Eddie Jordan give it to martin whitmarsh.

I like Eddie Jordan, but he seems to have something against martin whitmarsh and McLaren. That attack was totally uncalled for

Eddie giving it to martin .........theres a thought:D:D:D

EvilMonkey

thegoth wrote: »

Just watching Eddie Jordan give it to martin whitmarsh.

I like Eddie Jordan, but he seems to have something against martin whitmarsh and McLaren. That attack was totally uncalled for

I didn't see it but at the end of last season it was a lovefest between Whitmarsh and Jordan over McLaren's recovery so i dint think he has anything against Martin Whitmarsh.

Probably just for TV

frostie500

dor83 wrote: »

If they had went out at the start of the session it would have been drier and they would have set faster times than they eventually did, expecting it to dry is ok but to think it was a certainty was stupid. Even with a dry set up they should have covered themselves in case it didn't dry up, but they made the stupid mistake of thinking that the weather prediction was 100% certain of happening.

I'm not saying it was the right decision but I do think that there was a lot more to their decision not to get a banker laptime in than just thinking 'the weather prediction was 100% correct, there'll be no rain'

enzo7

EvilMonkey wrote: »

I didn't see it but at the end of last season it was a lovefest between Whitmarsh and Jordan over McLaren's recovery so i dint think he has anything against Martin Whitmarsh.

Probably just for TV

Didnt see it either as was running out the door as the RBs crossed the line. But thats true. Is all for show:rolleyes: EJ is a muppet he always was.

Is the forum repeated on the red button, love this part but missed it today.

Mike Litoris

robinph wrote: »

He really annoyed me last year, this year he just apears to be the comedy sidekick.

It was funny though, everyone taking the piss about his wardrobe malfunction. You could hear him getting a bit annoyed about it.....feck I cant remember who they were interviewing....
Damn hangover

se conman

E J is NO muppet IMHO.He ran in F1 and did very well with the budget he had , then sold out and made millions.Now he gets brought to every race and gets a big wage packet just to give an opinion.Please explain how he is a muppet LOL.

robinph

se conman wrote: »

E J is NO muppet IMHO.He ran in F1 and did very well with the budget he had , then sold out and made millions.Now he gets brought to every race and gets a big wage packet just to give an opinion.Please explain how he is a muppet LOL.

Not questioning his luck/ skill within F1 previously.

He is a rubbish TV pundit though.

se conman

To be honest , I quite like him.He is able to rub people up the wrong way and get away with it .I would love to see him take on Ron Dennis.I think he has a very good understanding of F1 but will pester people just for the camera , but then thats what he is there for.What other presenter would have the balls to just run into a ferrari garage and drag Schui out for an interview and get away with it.(last year)

hotwhiskey

se conman wrote: »

To be honest , I quite like him.He is able to rub people up the wrong way and get away with it .I would love to see him take on Ron Dennis.I think he has a very good understanding of F1 but will pester people just for the camera , but then thats what he is there for.What other presenter would have the balls to just run into a ferrari garage and drag Schui out for an interview and get away with it.(last year)

I totally agree! EJ tells it how it is no Bull*****. He says what's on his mind no matter who he is talking too.

He was right to say that about McLaren (Ferrari made the same mistake too) No excuse waiting to see if it drys up and the LIGHTENING flashing in the distance.

EJ is a sweat of fresh air only for him all we would here is Redbull, Redbull, Vettel, Webber, Redbull and Horner o ya Redbull from the other two.

enzo7

Not trying to excuse mclaren/ferrari they made a huge mistake in not getting a lap in the bank as ej put it. But you swear he never made a mistake when he was in f1 the way he went on about it,this is the muppet after all who let schumacher slip through his fingers:rolleyes:. Have never been a fan of his but tbh he doesnt bother me i think his good value and i get a good laugh outa him. His not your average interviewer thats for sure:)

G-Money

I like EJ. He's funny and he's not afraid to give out to people, even Bernie. I think the BBC lineup is very good as you can get things from a drivers point of view from Brundle and DC, plus things from a team owners point of view from EJ. I think that's quite unique and gives a fuller picture of how things work in F1.

I often find it funny how DC sort of will say something in the F1 forum, but then will ask Brundle what he thinks. I kind of think DC see's Brundle as a bit of a mentor/father figure type role and he looks up to him. But then he used to be DC's manager so maybe that's an element too.

EJ did sweat something fierce during qualifying though. I think us Irish just aren't cut out to survive in warm climates

antodeco

I really like EJ. As others have said, he will try and get anyone to talk. The benefit of him on the show is the recognition that other teams have of him. He's almost the Eamonn Dunphy of the F1 world!

robinph

se conman wrote: »

What other presenter would have the balls to just run into a ferrari garage and drag Schui out for an interview and get away with it.(last year)

Well he was a bit cheeky in that instance just running away from the camera in the middle of talking with DC and Jake, but none of the BBC team seem to have any problem getting interviews with anyone in F1 when they want it. Well apart from Jake still being a bit in awe of people to some extent. All of the rest of them have been working in F1 for years and know everyone just as much as EJ does.

The only ones who have not worked in F1 would be Jake and the two bits of skirt they have as interviewers in the paddock/ pit lane to grab the drivers.

BoardsRanger

robinph wrote: »

Well he was a bit cheeky in that instance just running away from the camera in the middle of talking with DC and Jake, but none of the BBC team seem to have any problem getting interviews with anyone in F1 when they want it.

Could not disagree more. Why should the tv coverage be pristine and proper? I thought it was great watching him walk off and get a reluctant schumi by the arm.
Maybe its a person choice, but i like presenters who wont just read a script and be mundane. And as other posters have stated- i like the way DJ, Eddie and Jake work together each bringing their own to the table.

robinph

Well the way that Brundle barges his way around the grid and getting interviews with whoever he wants at the moment when they least want to talk to anyone just doesn't grate with me the same way as when EJ does it. Not sure exactly what it is the difference between the two, but maybe people on the grid have a bit more respect for Brundle whereas everyone just seems to be cringing when EJ talks to them.

Slutmonkey57b

Big thumbs up for Eddie, he's a perfect TV pundit - all opinion, plenty of verve. He's not there to echo whatever the people around him say. He's got decades of experience in motorsport, his opinions aren't coming from hot air, and he's always got reasons for what he says. You may not agree with them, but they're there. And he's funny too.

dsmythy

He was handy last year for picking race winners

I don't mind his questions he asks but something about his mannerisms and tone I just cringe at.

Erren Music

Oblomov wrote: »

Eddie Jordan is a failed team owner and manager.. sold out and became a TV Pundit... some of his comments are typical self opinionated egotist.

Just yer normal Eddie Jordan. Nothing special, I can imagine a lot of people on this board doing as good if not better job.

Thats not fair. Eddie got into F1 and stayed there a long time. He had his own team with his own name. He has earned the right to do it his way. Who would have predicted that a young Irish bank clerk could end up in the middle of the F1 circus as a contender. HHF led the championship midway at one stage.

grandmaster wrote: »

I like EJ. He's funny and he's not afraid to give out to people, even Bernie. I think the BBC lineup is very good as you can get things from a drivers point of view from Brundle and DC, plus things from a team owners point of view from EJ. I think that's quite unique and gives a fuller picture of how things work in F1.

I often find it funny how DC sort of will say something in the F1 forum, but then will ask Brundle what he thinks. I kind of think DC see's Brundle as a bit of a mentor/father figure type role and he looks up to him. But then he used to be DC's manager so maybe that's an element too.

EJ did sweat something fierce during qualifying though. I think us Irish just aren't cut out to survive in warm climates

He is not afraid to appear foolish, but he knows everything that is going on.

I have warmed so much to DC over the last 3 or 4 years. I disliked him at Mclaren, he came across so dour and grey there. Pity he stayed so long at macca.

Pity he didn't stay in Red Bull one more year, he would have been world champion.

Martin Brundle is brilliant. I followed his F1 career start to finish. Pity he never had a win.

jayo99

Is it just me or is this guy the biggest pain in the h*le in F1?

Again this weekend he continued to badger the F1 team principals about Tire Manufacturers for next season, team orders etc, all issues which none of them are (obviously) going to divulge, especially the Tire issue as there are on-going contract discussions..

He pestered the team principals on Saturday about team orders expecting to get some new info about team orders when we all know team orders have existed (and have to) in the sport since it began.. Did he forget his orders to Ralf Schumacher in the Belgian GP of 1998 not to overtake Damon Hill??

Also, he seems to criticise Michael Schumacher non-stop.. He likes to brag that he gave Michael his first race in F1.. Did he also forget that he was paid $150,000 for giving Schumacher this start. Also did he forget the millions Michael paid him to buy Ralf out of his contract at Jordan??

G-Money

I think he's brilliant. Very entertaining.

Oblomov

Eddie is getting like chatty talker sorry Murray Walker.... bloomer and bloomer.

Eddie's opening remarks ... It's nice to be at the Canadian Grand Prix and see all the Americans.....

DUH....... Where are we.....

EvilMonkey

jayo99 wrote: »

Is it just me or is this guy the biggest pain in the h*le in F1?

Again this weekend he continued to badger the F1 team principals about Tire Manufacturers for next season, team orders etc, all issues which none of them are (obviously) going to divulge, especially the Tire issue as there are on-going contract discussions..

He pestered the team principals on Saturday about team orders expecting to get some new info about team orders when we all know team orders have existed (and have to) in the sport since it began.. Did he forget his orders to Ralf Schumacher in the Belgian GP of 1998 not to overtake Damon Hill??

Also, he seems to criticise Michael Schumacher non-stop.. He likes to brag that he gave Michael his first race in F1.. Did he also forget that he was paid $150,000 for giving Schumacher this start. Also did he forget the millions Michael paid him to buy Ralf out of his contract at Jordan??

That has to be has to be Legard. So many times he interrupts Brundle who actually knows what he is talking about to say something stupid. Every time a driver sets a fast lap their tyres just came in, a slow lap they have a problem :pac:

EJ is better better than having yes men that ask them the same easy questions over and over. Or someone like James Allen who would criticise someone behind their back and let them off with the questions they don't want to answer
He got Whitmarsh to say he wanted Michicelin tyres, and Brawn to talk about the adjustable rear wing planed for next year.(in Qualifying)

Oblomov wrote: »

Eddie is getting like chatty talker sorry Murray Walker.... bloomer and bloomer.

Eddie's opening remarks ... It's nice to be at the Canadian Grand Prix and see all the Americans.....

DUH....... Where are we.....

I assumed that was a joke, there is usually loads of Americans at Canada, Canadians hate being called Americans and they are North Americans.

He's F1s Eamon Dumphy and is good for BBC rather than their usual politicly correct pundits.
He dose sometimes ask stupid questions and go on a bit too much.

Slutmonkey57b

Eddie is fantastic for the BBC, he really injects an element of unpredictability into what might otherwise degenerate into a fairly stuffy affair.

As for Legard - had to watch another race with him commentating today, having been forced to watch Setanta's coverage the day before.

Honestly, it is utterly shocking how much worse F1 coverage is with bad commentary. Setanta were utterly woefully boring, and switching to the BBC for the race today and hearing Brundle made me almost weep with joy at hearing his brilliant commentary, and weep with anger at Legard's utterly vacant and ill-timed interruptions. He interrupted Ted Kravitz who was telling us what was going on with the totally unexpected pitstops - to tell us that something had happened on screen. Nothing vitally important either, somebody cut the chicane. Woooo. It's awful. Then you go and listen to Ant and Crofty and it's the best thing ever. Switch Legard back to 5 Live on his own, and move Ant and Crofty in with Brundle. Magic.

homer simpson

Oblomov wrote: »

Eddie is getting like chatty talker sorry Murray Walker.... bloomer and bloomer.

Eddie's opening remarks ... It's nice to be at the Canadian Grand Prix and see all the Americans.....

DUH....... Where are we.....

He said americia's not americians, he was refearing to the contenient not the country!!!!!

Ghost Train

He makes a few crap jokes, but adds a lot to the panel. As a former team boss he has that additional perspective that none of the others have. His team won races and he dealt with managing drivers etc. Even if he's not always on the money it would be a bit more boring without him. Good to an Irish represtentive there too. And along side the pretty straight and serious Couldtard your always likely to get plenty of discussion between the pair of them

zeris

Oblomov wrote: »

Eddie's opening remarks ... It's nice to be at the Canadian Grand Prix and see all the Americans.....

Could be a dig at Bernie seeing as all the Americans have to go to Canada to see their closest GP.

homer simpson

jebus am i being ignored, lol! he said the americia's not americains!!!!!

zeris

homer_simpson wrote: »

jebus am i being ignored, lol! he said the americia's not americains!!!!!

How could we have doubted you!

Eddie says "Well it is such a relief to come back to Montreal and to the Americas in itself".

Ghost Train

not a fan of them getting Eddie to do the live interviews.... all seems a bit forced. Do enjoy his punditry but at the moment at least the other stuff seems awkward

Mike Litoris

Lol I thought Eddie was awesome today on the grid.

G-Money

Mike Litoris wrote: »

Lol I thought Eddie was awesome today on the grid.

I doubt anyone else could grab Bernie like Eddie did.

Mike Litoris

grandmaster wrote: »

I doubt anyone else could grab Bernie like Eddie did.

Hehe yeah, I reckon he could get away with grabbing his bollicks on TV too.:p

Cookie_Monster

Eddie Jordan is annoying and full of ****. The BBC really do make the utmost to make the buildup unwatchable with their line up:mad:

EJ just talks ****e and DC just has a lovein with red bull every race.

Ghost Train

did like Eddie sticking firm defending the small teams and asking some tough question to redbull and Webber

hotwhiskey

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

Eddie Jordan is annoying and full of ****. The BBC really do make the utmost to make the buildup unwatchable with their line up:mad:

EJ just talks ****e and DC just has a lovein with red bull every race.

Eddie Jordan is not afraid to speak his mind he says what he feels, no holding back and that's the way it should be. You can see the teams management know Eddie is going to ask the difficult questions.

Eddie doesn't talk rubbish he is long enough in the sport to know whats going on and if you don't understand his questions you don't know anything about F1.

The BBC do a reasonable job for F1 "not Great" but no disaster like ITV the Hamilton show.