Eugene Terreblanche killed in South Africa

dlofnep

South African white supremacist leader Eugene Terreblanche has been killed on his farm in the country's north-west.
Mr Terreblanche, 69, was beaten to death after a dispute over unpaid wages, local media reports said. Two people are said to have been arrested.
Mr Terreblanche, who campaigned for a separate white homeland, came to prominence in the early 1980s. He became the champion of a tiny minority determined to stop the process that was bringing apartheid to an end.

"Mr Terreblanche's body was found on the bed with facial and head injuries," AFP news agency quoted a police spokesman as saying.
The report said he had been killed after a payment dispute with two workers, who have since been charged with his murder.
"He was hacked to death while he was taking a nap," a family friend in the town of Ventersdorp was quoted as telling Reuters news agency.

Video of Terreblanche with Louis Theroux from a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPbExwBJiwY

South Africa is less one dangerous man. I only fear for the backlash that might come from his followers.

Sulmac

I won't lose any sleep over his murder, though I'd also be wary over any backlash.

Jigga

Sulmac wrote: »

I won't lose any sleep over his murder, though I'd also be wary over any backlash.

Why would there be a backlash, it was over unpaid wages apparently

Great news by the way

Sulmac

Jigga wrote: »

Why would there be a backlash, it was over unpaid wages apparently

When have racial supremacists accepted logic or reason?

Slideshowbob

He had it coming

gbee

He was a man of his word and not afraid to stand up for his birthrights ~ 1/3rd Irish by the sounds of it too.

dlofnep

gbee wrote: »

He was a man of his word and not afraid to stand up for his birthrights ~ 1/3rd Irish by the sounds of it too.

What exactly were his birth rights?

Jim_Bob_2010

RIP South Africa.

Strange that a white man, butchered as he sleeps in Zuma's wonderful rainbow nation even makes the news these days.

Slideshowbob

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

RIP South Africa.

Strange that a white man, butchered as he sleeps in Zuma's wonderful rainbow nation even makes the news these days.

Damn - they only gave him the indignity of a butchering?

This guy insighted some serious hate in his time!

Jim_Bob_2010

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Damn - they only gave him the indignity of a butchering?

This guy insighted some serious hate in his time!

More than 3000 many old and isolated white farmers like him have been butchered in a similar way in the last few years. That is the BBC's figure, many would say it's much more.

This is inciting hatred
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-07-02-malema-wont-withdraw-kill-for-zuma-statement

For those of you who don't know Zuma is the multiple rapist president of South Africa who has fathered upwards of 20 children with 6+ different women/girls. Maybe Ireland/Cowen aint so bad after all!

irishh_bob

film maker nick broomfield made a fantastic docu on the guy 20 years ago

Slideshowbob

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

More than 3000 many old and isolated white farmers like him have been butchered in a similar way in the last few years. That is the BBC's figure, many would say it's much more.

This is inciting hatred
http://www.mg.co.za/article/2008-07-02-malema-wont-withdraw-kill-for-zuma-statement

For those of you who don't know Zuma is the multiple rapist president of South Africa who has fathered upwards of 20 children with 6+ different women/girls. Maybe Ireland/Cowen aint so bad after all!

Quoting 'news' from 2008. I don't have indepth knowledge of current SA politics I will admit. Enough going on here in my country to keep me interested. South African yourself Jim Bob? You seem to be very knowlegeable?!?!

dsmythy

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Quoting 'news' from 2008. I don't have indepth knowledge of current SA politics I will admit. Enough going on here in my country to keep me interested. South African yourself Jim Bob? You seem to be very knowlegeable?!?!

Just a few days ago an injunction was taken out against Julius Malemba to prevent him from singing "shoot the boer". He went to Zimbabwe and sang it to his heart's content regardless. Probably just a coincidence.

Slideshowbob

Ah well from a distant and ignorant point of view in Ireland I'd say things are just balancing themselves out after years of apartheid. Things have now swung the other way at the moment by sounds of it.

According to Wikipedia:

"South Africa is a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic, wherein the President of South Africa, elected by parliament, is the head of government, and of a multi-party system."

That sure beats what the regime was in SA upto twenty years ago or so.

Power to the people !!!

SLUSK

He was a white supremacist and we could all hate him for that. The trend with attacks on white farmers are worrying though. Could South Africa collapse and become another Zimbabwe?

wes

He was certainly a horrible person, I won't be losing any sleep or anything. Still, no one deserves to be hacked to death, even if they hold abhorent views. If the man was breaking the law in some way, it should have been dealt with by the courts.

Jim_Bob_2010

Slideshowbob wrote: »

I don't have indepth knowledge of current SA politics I will admit.

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Ah well from a distant and ignorant point of view in Ireland

If you admit to being ignorant about a topic why do you still post venturing your opinions on it?

Slideshowbob wrote: »

"South Africa is a federal parliamentary representative democratic republic, wherein the President of South Africa, elected by parliament, is the head of government, and of a multi-party system."

That sure beats what the regime was in SA upto twenty years ago or so.

Power to the people !!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

"North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea ..."

Listen my friend, I think all men should be free to live their lives, including white south Africans. South Africa is on a inexorable decline to becoming another failed African state. It is becoming clear now that white people will have no future in South Africa except what they take for themselves.
Where are all the trendy celebrities and hangers on crying for the raped and murdered white innocents?

Sir Oxman

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

If you admit to being ignorant about a topic why do you still post venturing your opinions on it?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

"North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea ..."

Listen my friend, I think all men should be free to live their lives, including white south Africans. South Africa is on a inexorable decline to becoming another failed African state. It is becoming clear now that white people will have no future in South Africa except what they take for themselves.
Where are all the trendy celebrities and hangers on crying for the raped and murdered white innocents?

So, Jim bob, enlighten the rest of us. And no, Wikipedia won't do. (that was a poor attempt at whatever you were up to)
Are you S African?

Slideshowbob

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

If you admit to being ignorant about a topic why do you still post venturing your opinions on it?





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korea

"North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea ..."

Listen my friend, I think all men should be free to live their lives, including white south Africans. South Africa is on a inexorable decline to becoming another failed African state. It is becoming clear now that white people will have no future in South Africa except what they take for themselves.
Where are all the trendy celebrities and hangers on crying for the raped and murdered white innocents?

Well I will plead relative ignorance against someone from South Africa. I know enough though to know that the Apartheid regime was wrong.

White South Africans free to live their lives - what? just like they let their black bro's live their lives a few decades back ? ya?

I've actually come across a few ignorant white South Africans who moved to Ireland in the last few years. Think they own the place, ah sure maybe it's just what they were brought up with.

Traumadoc

Many white/indian south africans have already got the message and have left.
There is going to be a lot of bloodshed, and south africa will go the way of zimbabwe.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, it happened here too ( many protestants left ireland after independence). Its just going to happen.

mike65

It hardly matters why Eugene Terreblanche was murdered only that he was, his death is ound to be exploited to maximum effect and it won't take much to get the SA government to react in a clumsy fashion to that exploitation I suspect. What that country needs is a period of National Government so one one can be stood outside the outside pissing in.

Jim_Bob_2010

gambiaman wrote: »

So, Jim bob, enlighten the rest of us. And no, Wikipedia won't do. (that was a poor attempt at whatever you were up to)
Are you S African?

You say it was a poor attempt but you also say you don't know what I was up to? Then how do you know it was a poor attempt? Would you mind explaining that and what you think I'm up to?

Not that it matters but for the record I'm Irish, but this thread is not about me!

Jim_Bob_2010

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Well I will plead relative ignorance against someone from South Africa. I know enough though to know that the Apartheid regime was wrong.

White South Africans free to live their lives - what? just like they let their black bro's live their lives a few decades back ? ya?

I've actually come across a few ignorant white South Africans who moved to Ireland in the last few years. Think they own the place, ah sure maybe it's just what they were brought up with.

Apartheid was wrong.

So what are you saying? Is it ok to kill white people in modern SA because of apartheid?

You shouldn't have negative feeling towards white South Africans in general because you met one or two "ignorant" ones. You yourself described yourself as being ignorant.

There are two sides to every coin a chara.

orourkeda

Jigga wrote: »

Why would there be a backlash, it was over unpaid wages apparently

Great news by the way

Isnt that post hypocritical?

Condoning someones murder because you may disagree with their views.

I dont know anything about Eugene Terreblanche but wouldnt condone anyone's killing.

Slideshowbob

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

Apartheid was wrong.

So what are you saying? Is it ok to kill white people in modern SA because of apartheid?

You shouldn't have negative feeling towards white South Africans in general because you met one or two "ignorant" ones. You yourself described yourself as being ignorant.

There are two sides to every coin mo chara.

No I ain't saying it's ok to kill white people in modern SA because of apartheid but I can understand antagonism against whites.

Fact is I do have negitive feelings towards South Africans, I have met some who are nice, but met some who were as*holes. I was relatively ignorant as I said in relation to SA politics, they were ignorant full stop.

I realise there are two sides to every coin myl fries.

Sir Oxman

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

You say it was a poor attempt but you also say you don't know what I was up to? Then how do you know it was a poor attempt? Would you mind explaining that and what you think I'm up to?

Not that it matters but for the record I'm Irish, but this thread is not about me!

So you spent 90% of your reply bull****ting.
Why do you think S Africa is on the decline, especially after the death of a right c*nt.

Sir Oxman

orourkeda wrote: »

Isnt that post hypocritical?

Condoning someones murder because you may disagree with their views.

I dont know anything about Eugene Terreblanche but wouldnt condone anyone's killing.

I suggest reading up then.

orourkeda

gambiaman wrote: »

I suggest reading up then.

Did he deserve to be murdered and what for?

dsmythy

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Ah well from a distant and ignorant point of view in Ireland I'd say things are just balancing themselves out after years of apartheid. Things have now swung the other way at the moment by sounds of it.

That sure beats what the regime was in SA upto twenty years ago or so.

Power to the people !!!

An advocate of the death penalty?

orourkeda wrote: »

Isnt that post hypocritical?

Condoning someones murder because you may disagree with their views.

I dont know anything about Eugene Terreblanche but wouldnt condone anyone's killing.

I can understand where some people are coming from regarding him. He was described as a bully and he has a background in white supremacism and no doubt was a fan of apartheid. Whether he deserves to be hacked to death is another question! Recently however he seemed to be involved in lobbying for white South Africans. He is more a symptom of modern South Africa than a cause in the present time. Many alienated white South Africans watching their number get murdered at alarming rates and in constant fear of being stripped of their land turn to the likes of him because he was shouting the loudest against it. If South Africa took care of these problems then he would have been a nobody in the 21st century, but clearly they are not doing enough.

Jim_Bob_2010

gambiaman wrote: »

So you spent 90% of your reply bull****ting.
Why do you think S Africa is on the decline, especially after the death of a right c*nt.

Why would I answer your questions when you are hostile and will not answer mine.

Please try and be civil or don't post, just because you are online is no excuse to be rude.

Exile 1798

Jim_Bob_2010 wrote: »

Apartheid was wrong.

So what are you saying? Is it ok to kill white people in modern SA because of apartheid?

You shouldn't have negative feeling towards white South Africans in general because you met one or two "ignorant" ones. You yourself described yourself as being ignorant.

There are two sides to every coin mo chara.

If you want to address someone as "my friend" in Irish the correct term is "a chara"

"Mo chara" only works when talking about that person. ie "mo chara did so and so."

Not being a smart arse, it's a common mistake but an easy enough one to correct.

Jim_Bob_2010

Exile 1798 wrote: »

If you want to address someone as "my friend" in Irish the correct term is "a chara"

"Mo chara" only works when talking about that person. ie "mo chara did so and so."

Not being a smart arse, it's a common mistake but an easy enough one to correct.

Just googled it and you're right, thanks.

Fantasia1

hope they cancel the World Cup.

Its simply way too dangerous to send the Irish team down to SA to play in the the WC.

Oh wait Therri Henri made sure we wont be going.

amacachi

dlofnep wrote: »

South Africa is less one dangerous man. I only fear for the backlash that might come from his followers.

Less 2 or 3 dangerous men surely? Ya know, the guys who have been arrested for killing a man over money.

dlofnep

amacachi wrote: »

Less 2 or 3 dangerous men surely? Ya know, the guys who have been arrested for killing a man over money.

Well yeah - aside from the obvious

Biggins

I was just amazed to hear he was still alive till now.

Slideshowbob

dsmythy wrote: »

An advocate of the death penalty?

We are straying off topic here but I would not advocate it. It is interesting when you take the cost of keeping a prisoner in Ireland for a year 100+k a year, and consider those that will be in jail for the rest of their lives.

petronius

No doubt Eugene was Mad and Bad - but what message does it send out that in the rainbow nation such acts can happen to such a high profile figure.
Now he will become a martyr for the racists.

For singing "Shoot the Boer" a politician should be sacked and prosecuted for inciting racial hatred, just as anyone singing "shoot the zulu" etc.

The death of terre'blanche also brings into focus the figure of 3000 white farmers killed since 1994! This is a terrible indictment of the New South Africa!

The ANC has to represent not only black africans of all races, but of the whites, the indians, and those of mixed race.

Or else the example of Mugabe and Zimbabwe is a omen of what is to come!

Kiwi_knock

Since the end of apartheid the majority of people seem to think that the problems of SA have ended. That having a functioning government suddenly ends all their problems. That SA democracy is going well compared to the rest of Africa. These views are often misplaced. There is still massive amounts of socially inequality. The end of apartheid has created an educated and wealthy black class but there still remains an impoverished black class. There seems to be no concerted efforts to remedy this fact. Shipping the poor out of built up areas so the world cup visitors do not have to see poverty seems to be the only concern the government have with the poor at the moment. The white class can not speak out about their concerns because they are seen as trying to destabilise the SA state. Because they are relatively wealthy class their issues seem to be dismissed as they are not in need of urgent help unlike the poor minority. When any white SA complain about the ruling government not addressing their needs they are seen as being pro apartheid. It is a case of the Black community having been ignored too long so they deserve their chance at running the country without interference.
The world community needs to understand that SA is far from a fully functioning democracy, just because it looks advanced with comparision of the rest of Africa does not mean that we should look at it as a finished product. Do not fully believe the propaganda that will be spun at the World Cup, SA still needs to be the focus of world attention so that it can fully adapt democratic procedure and practices.

just to reply to some comments made by certain boarders here.

i am currently working in south africa, in my second year now. there is huge worry that SA is moving the same direction as Zimbabwe, which during my time here i can see.

there is a certain mugabe type figure called Julius Malema who just this Thursday gone was barred from singing an apartheid era song called Shoot The Boer. Boer is Afrikaans for Farmer and there has been over 3000 white farmer deaths since 1994 which will be soon recognised as genocide.

Julius Malema is currently in Zimbabwe and praised the land seizures, he is there on a nationalisation mission as he wants to seize farms and nationalise mines in SA which would scare every outside investor out of SA.

When Jacob Zuma said Malema would one day become president the rand went plummeting, i wonder why.
Just to point out this weekend in Zim Malema sang the shoot the boer song.

TerreBlanche was an idiot, but a dangerous one. he was 69 and butchered supposedly for late wages while he was SLEEPING. to me that was not spur of the moment and there is massive conspiracy amoung white people here now.
i fear for this country, what Malema preaches is insane and his shoot the boer song provokes white fears which are being vindicated by these type murders.
i can see already if every white and indian left SA it would collapse. whites employ gardeners, maids etc and still the unemployment is massive, imagine all these jobs went.

some comments here are mindless, there are plenty of whites who disagreed with apartheid, there are plenty of whites from other parts of the world and even these are fearing whats happening.

there is a system of reverse apartheid call affirmative action or BEE (black empowerment). Eskom is a prime example of the results of this. BEE makes companies employ staff according to population demographics which has led to many unqualified people being put into positions they cant do. Eskom have not built a power plant since apartheid finished, now they have to do rolling black outs and have been granted a 25% increase this year, next year and the following year.

i intend to be out of this country within 2 years, i have a work permit and unless things improve i won't be renewing. in the year i have been here things have got worse in my opinion.

Julius Malema incites hatred just as terrblanche did, difference is Malema is in the ANC, which is frightening

mike65

See the "White Right" had a spokeman out to say that they were not declaring civil war after all. Hopefully that'll calm things down for now. As for the longer view, SA will probably be Zimbabwe-Heavy in 10-15 years.

Fr Tod Umptious

irishh_bob wrote: »

film maker nick broomfield made a fantastic docu on the guy 20 years ago

The Leader, His Driver and the Driver’s Wife

It's a classic

AlekSmart

Keeffo2005 Posted : TerreBlanche was an idiot, but a dangerous one. he was 69 and butchered supposedly for late wages while he was SLEEPING. to me that was not spur of the moment and there is massive conspiracy amoung white people here now.
i fear for this country, what Malema preaches is insane and his shoot the boer song provokes white fears which are being vindicated by these type murders.
I can see already if every white and indian left SA it would collapse. whites employ gardeners, maids etc and still the unemployment is massive, imagine all these jobs went.

some comments here are mindless, there are plenty of whites who disagreed with apartheid, there are plenty of whites from Ireland and other parts of the world and even these are fearing whats happening

Good post IMO.

The entire African Continent suffers from a vast overhang of half or total disinterest in it`s fate from the rest of the world.
It appears that we only take an interest when a Bob Geldof or a Niall Mellon come along and sex-it-up a bit.
This allows us to believe that various first-world solutions can be superimposed upon a totally different element of Human Nature and will somehow or other "Civilize" it.

The manner in which Robert Mugabe and his band of dubious allies snatched wealthy self-sufficient Rhodesia then reduced it to a famine ridden poverty stricken Zimbabwe is the stuff of shame.

However I`m in agreement with Keeffo2005,unless the West wakes up pretty quick it`s likely that the RSA will soon become the preserve of looneys also.

yeah sorry meant ireland the rest of the world, plenty of irish in joburg, unfortunately i am about 40 mins south.

anyway was just listening to the news, white protesters and black protesters, both singing songs to wind each other up, a white women throw water at a black women, police had to step in and stop a riot breaking out.
first thing i wanted to know, a man got butchered, every1 knew that his supporters would turn, why would black protesters turn as well, provocation if you ask me, they hardly support this murder, this will further heighten tensions.

also so i don't look biased which is not my intention
awb spokeman has called another meeting of the awb because they asked the supporters of terreblanche not to wear slogans and flags which according to the radio they did, so in my opinion certain elements in the awb will not listen and will seek revenge, so both sides are provoking.

it will take a strong leader, one which Zuma is not to calm this down.

i will find some speeches from Malema just to point out how crazy he is

Scofflaw

UltimateMale, enough of the off-topic provocation. Any more and you'll be banned for a week.

moderately,
Scofflaw

LostinBlanch

Deleted User wrote: »

just to reply to some comments made by certain boarders here.

i am currently working in south africa, in my second year now. there is huge worry that SA is moving the same direction as Zimbabwe, which during my time here i can see.

there is a certain mugabe type figure called Julius Malema who just this Thursday gone was barred from singing an apartheid era song called Shoot The Boer. Boer is Afrikaans for Farmer and there has been over 3000 white farmer deaths since 1994 which will be soon recognised as genocide.

Julius Malema is currently in Zimbabwe and praised the land seizures, he is there on a nationalisation mission as he wants to seize farms and nationalise mines in SA which would scare every outside investor out of SA.

When Jacob Zuma said Malema would one day become president the rand went plummeting, i wonder why.
Just to point out this weekend in Zim Malema sang the shoot the boer song.

TerreBlanche was an idiot, but a dangerous one. he was 69 and butchered supposedly for late wages while he was SLEEPING. to me that was not spur of the moment and there is massive conspiracy amoung white people here now.
i fear for this country, what Malema preaches is insane and his shoot the boer song provokes white fears which are being vindicated by these type murders.
i can see already if every white and indian left SA it would collapse. whites employ gardeners, maids etc and still the unemployment is massive, imagine all these jobs went.

some comments here are mindless, there are plenty of whites who disagreed with apartheid, there are plenty of whites from other parts of the world and even these are fearing whats happening.

there is a system of reverse apartheid call affirmative action or BEE (black empowerment). Eskom is a prime example of the results of this. BEE makes companies employ staff according to population demographics which has led to many unqualified people being put into positions they cant do. Eskom have not built a power plant since apartheid finished, now they have to do rolling black outs and have been granted a 25% increase this year, next year and the following year.

i intend to be out of this country within 2 years, i have a work permit and unless things improve i won't be renewing. in the year i have been here things have got worse in my opinion.

Julius Malema incites hatred just as terrblanche did, difference is Malema is in the ANC, which is frightening

Good post, nail on the head for me. I didn't know about the Malema quote by Zuma though. So he's Zuma's golden boy

Looking from the outside I get the idea that the whole country is on a slow slide to becoming Zimbabwe Mark II. Once Mandela goes then things will really start to go tits up, and that's such a sad thing. But in a one party state* like SA is it's not looking likes it's going to change.


*One party in the sense that the ANC has total control and looks like keeping it indefinitely, the others are just window dressing.

Flamed Diving

SLUSK wrote: »

He was a white supremacist and we could all hate him for that.

I'm intrigued by this statement.

rovert

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0411/terreblanche.html

All the white nationalists must be raging at the Zionist liberal pinko media slurring this man's good name.

Brown Bomber

Reportedly there is a homosexual link to the murder
http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/04/11/world/international-uk-safrica-terreblanche.html?_r=1

Kiwi_knock

Interesting aspect to the murder, can see it being rejected outright by his followers. They will see it as a way of undermining the legacy of their respected leader. A way of preventing any further trouble by making them revile their leader. Can only see this story leading to further tension. The white community are feeling ignored by the government. Many people are equating Terreblanche's supporters with his ideals. That they are racists and want a white only state. This a misconceived conception, many of his supporters are people who get on well with the black community but feel their issues are sidelined by the government. Their feelings with only result in further tension unless the government takes action to start adressing their concerns in a relistic manner. The government is treating Terreblanche's death as a step towards democracy but by ignoring the concerns of a high portion of their population they are anything but. Instead it does seem that SA is on the way to becoming another Zimbabwe. Hopefully the SA politicans are aware enough that they have to adress the concerns and that the world community actually realises that the Rainbow Nation is not a shining example of African politics.

walshb

I would say that the homosexual link is a pure red herring, just like the pay dispute.