DIT PORTFOLIO SCORES

_kayla_

Has anyone recieved their portfolio assessment scores yet from dit? my friend got her letter in the post yesterday and didnt get the course she wanted, just wondering if anyone else recieved theirs!!!!

greener greene

Yeah I got mine on friday, got 350/600 in photography. So annoying that they don't tell you why you lose marks

dan759

I got 300/600 for photography. I'm really disappointed, I put so much work into it

And, I just recently saw some other guys portolio who scored 400. A collection of random images, badly edited with no themes etc. So now i'm all the more confused

greener greene

dan759 wrote: »

I got 300/600 for photography. I'm really disappointed, I put so much work into it

I feel for ya buddy. I'm quite disappointed too, so much work for a meh score

dan759

Im confused about something else now too, On another thread a guy has told me they don't take fetac points into consideration

What do i add on to my portfolio score then? :eek:

_kayla_

yeah i dont understand what way they are marking them , only got 300 for viscom was a bit disapointed toodidnt even get my level 7 display design madness

deepsteppa

dan759 wrote: »

Im confused about something else now too, On another thread a guy has told me they don't take fetac points into consideration

What do i add on to my portfolio score then? :eek:

your leaving cert results isnt it? assuming your not applying as a mature student....

BlueNemo

I got my letter. Didn't get any of the courses I wanted. For the second year in a row. sigh. I'd love to know how I can find out where I went wrong.:(

katie b

heye.. ow dus it work i passed and av the leaving cert points from las year but dus dat meen i get d cors ... r what im so confused.. can u gt in on only passing on the portfolio?? wat a ppl scoring 4 fine art ... ?? tnx

greener greene

BlueNemo wrote: »

I got my letter. Didn't get any of the courses I wanted. For the second year in a row. sigh. I'd love to know how I can find out where I went wrong.:(

Hm you could try get in touch with the people running the different courses and see if they'll go through your portfolio with you?

greener greene

katie b wrote: »

heye.. ow dus it work i passed and av the leaving cert points from las year but dus dat meen i get d cors ... r what im so confused.. can u gt in on only passing on the portfolio?? wat a ppl scoring 4 fine art ... ?? tnx

You won't know if you got the course until offers are out in August. You add your LC points and portfolio score together and then if that combined score is enough then you're in.

_kayla_

did anyone apply for viscom or fine art? they must of been hard on the marking only know two people out of my portfolio course that got gud enuf marks to be eligible for a place! this is tough :(:(:( oh and yes you can get in based on your portfolio thats what i am doin just make sure you get enough distinctions for it though got 450 for fine art but thats the course i didn want

IIsoleeII

dan759 wrote: »

I got 300/600 for photography. I'm really disappointed, I put so much work into it

And, I just recently saw some other guys portolio who scored 400. A collection of random images, badly edited with no themes etc. So now i'm all the more confused

I know how you feel, i went to England and everything to take pictures and only got 300/600,.. I felt the worst when i saw the score, i hope the points for it isnt too high this year...

Chorcai

_kayla_ wrote: »

did anyone apply for viscom or fine art? they must of been hard on the marking only know two people out of my portfolio course that got gud enuf marks to be eligible for a place! this is tough :(:(:( oh and yes you can get in based on your portfolio thats what i am doin just make sure you get enough distinctions for it though got 450 for fine art but thats the course i didn want

I got 540 out of 600, I can take pictures of stuff if you want to see it, not boasting of anything. I know how **** it feels not to get the points you want. Saying that I might not get in either I am mature student, I don't know how DIT allocate places (NCAD are 50% mature 50% LC/under 23yr old students).

edit:
What is interesting is this thread http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055791233&page=3 someone who works in IADT is giving some sort of feed back very little and vauge but its something !

Rosie30

The last two years have shown absolutely mad results coming from DIT. I think it is a huge reaction to the NCAD portfolio brief and while numbers are down for NCAD because of the brief, the result is that numbers are way up for DIT courses who don't require a specific brief for portfolios. I have no idea how they assess the portfolios because from what I have seen in the last 2 years beggers belief as to what gets 600 out of 600 and for what is unsuccessful. From what I have seen in the last few years, if you have been successful at portfolio assessment and get the appropriate academic requirements your place should be confirmed. I've seen people that get as low as 240 in portfolio but have been offered a place. Am still convinced that they do 'eeni meeni myni mo' tho! I know the blood, sweat and tears that go into portfolios and it is devastating when u have your heart set on a particular course. No sense to it sometimes...

BlueNemo

greener greene wrote: »

Hm you could try get in touch with the people running the different courses and see if they'll go through your portfolio with you?

I've emailed them and they sent out my marks sheet.. Which was no help as they gave me the same (low) mark in every single box. Looks like someone wanted to have a coffee break.......

OctavarIan

Add me to the list of people who have been given bizarre review scores. Months of praise from my lecturers, peers and media professionals, only to be failed without explanation. Doesn't add up at all. And I'd somewhat understand if I had applied for Fine Art but I applied for Vis Com, and design isn't as subjective as art.

Hopefully IADT aren't this inconsistent and downright baffling. Anyone know when their results are out?

_kayla_

The numbers this year applying are unreal heard 2000 applyed to iadt!does anyone know when we hear from iadt ? hopefully they will be a bit more easier on the marking!!!!!!!! is there anyone else who applyed for viscom or fine art in dit am dying to know what other people got ?looks like i wont b going dit hopefully il get it in iadt now :(

dan759

Rosie i know exactly what you mean. I'm getting more confused from seeing some portfolios online of people who scored high. I know this seems like we're kicking up a fuss just because we scored low or got unsuccessful.

But seriously, i saw a guys portfolio that scored 350 or 400, i cant remember, and it was awful. The editing was really bad, the rules were way off etc, and the photos were flat. Sure some guy on the photographys section of boards stated that he hadnt a clue how to make a portfolio and just threw one together to chance his arm and scored 500. And he didn't include and visual diaries etc (which they clearly stated at the info day were very very important!). It just makes me think that it may be a case of eeny meeny miny mo, or something else rediculous. Its so confusing.

Rosie30

All I can say is that you do end up where u are 'supposed' to be! Don't let one bad result get u down. If anything you need to be more confident about your work knowing that its a lottery. It is a tough industry but there are many other routes into it.

Saaron

I got 600 In both Vis Com + Fine Art but It's not giving me much confidence for IADT which is my first choice. It looks like they barely looked through my portfolio at all.. In comparison to IADT who gave me back a completely looked through and used portfolio (although I applied to a lot of courses).

Also, I put in one of my weaker folders for IADT the night before when I was panicking!! REALLY REGRETTING THAT!! It'll definitely pull my marks down a lot.

I'd just love to know if people that score well in DIT also tend to score well in IADT.. It's just hard to know what to expect from different colleges. Wish I didn't have to wait till May

Chorcai

Saaron wrote: »

I'd just love to know if people that score well in DIT also tend to score well in IADT.. It's just hard to know what to expect from different colleges. Wish I didn't have to wait till May

IADT send out the portfoilo results in May ?? I was expecting the results a bit sooner !

Saaron

As far as I know it's May..
I could be wrong.
I hope I'm wrong and it's earlier.....

Saaron

Just checked the email I got from IADT for admissions a while ago.

In it it says:

"Results of portfolio and interviews (where necessary) will be sent to students by the end of May."

Lame..

Chorcai

Saaron wrote: »

Just checked the email I got from IADT for admissions a while ago.

In it it says:

"Results of portfolio and interviews (where necessary) will be sent to students by the end of May."

Lame..

Very :mad:

OctavarIan

Saaron wrote: »

I got 600 In both Vis Com + Fine Art

What did you have in your portfolio that got you 600 for Vis Com AND Fine Art?

It's so weird that people get the same marks for both.

Saaron

Ehm.. I also got 600 for design display. But didn't even know I had that down.

Basically I don't have a specific portfolio for Vis Com or Fine art. It's all just one.
I was mainly emphasising quality and over all presentation.
To be honest I didn't think It was all that great. I'm not sure how to explain my portfolio.

I mainly worked on A2 size notebooks. I like working big. I also tend to spend hours on one piece. I tried to use as many different mediums as possible and different techniques while keeping the drawings strong. I linked one page to the next throughout my portfolio. (it's all quite basic stuff here.. nothing that really stands out).. ehm I also did research into different artists and styles that I liked.. then incorporated that into my art while giving the reference on the same page.

I liked very technical drawing and that's evident. I also used small pop-up things to try explain perspective.
I used a lot of my own edited photos as well as reference on some pages.
I also had a small photography notebook to back up some buildings I had been studying (although I tried not to use photos I had copied from)

I must mention I have been doing a portfolio course so that does help a lot.
But to be honest I think they want to see good quality drawings but with a bit of experimentation.

Presentation is also good.
The night before DIT submission.. I stayed up till 6am tidying and filling out empty spaced.

I didn't have one finished piece in it.
I had some crappy life drawings.

3 A2 notebooks
1 A3 photography thingy

that was it. I'm pretty sure IADT won't be so generous with their points.
You should have seen the 3rd A2 notebook I put in. It was hilarious. Full of ****ty line drawings, and a few pen and ink sketches. That will definitely bring the points down.
Sorry for this massive ramble. I'm not sure what really got me 600 points really.

Adriatic

I got 480 in fine art and visual communication and unsuccessful in photography. I dropped out of DIT at the end of October from computer science a day before the deadline to get the fee back, the course just didn't suit me. I even did a drawing I shoved in to the back of my portfolio I did while I was up there, that's saying something.

I set my eyes on photography and made that myself but I also joined an art, craft and design course(caught up on two missed months :eek:) and made the art portfolio and got that surprising result, delighted with that, not that chuft about the photogrpahy. I highly recommend joining a portfolio course seeing how the art portfolio marked up.

I improved the art portfolio and left the photography one the same since DIT, so I look forward to discovering if that made a difference in other colleges. At the end of the day they see want they want to see that gets the marks, I can't imagine marks would be "lost" for including a dodgy sketch pad.

_kayla_

:eek: :eek: Wow some people scored really good, So does anyone know when we find out when we got our places do we find out before the cao offers so confused about all of this ? dont even know yet if i will be guaranteed a place so annoying !! so did anyone apply to limerick ?

Chorcai

_kayla_ wrote: »

:eek: :eek: Wow some people scored really good, So does anyone know when we find out when we got our places do we find out before the cao offers so confused about all of this ? dont even know yet if i will be guaranteed a place so annoying !! so did anyone apply to limerick ?

Interesting bit in the paper today....

CAO POINTS for many popular third-level courses are set to increase this year after figures confirmed a record level of demand from students.
A Higher Education Authority (HEA) report shows the number of applicants reached a record high of 71,843 in 2010, an increase of 6.2 per cent from 2009.

Career experts predict that CAO points for higher level courses in arts, business and science could increase this year.

But points could fall for law and architecture, sectors where many graduates are struggling to secure employment.

The study also shows that first-preference applications for medicine and other healthcare programmes have increased while there has been a slight fall in the demand for law and business courses. The report by Dr Vivienne Patterson, head of statistics at the HEA, underlines the dominance of arts and humanities in higher education in Ireland.

Almost 16,000 students have put arts/humanities degree courses as their first choice, representing more than one-quarter of all students. Over 10 per cent of students also made teaching courses their first option and some 15 per cent opted for business courses as their first preference.

By contrast, only six per cent of students made science their first option. Overall, just four per cent of students listed courses in engineering or computers as their first preference. But the HEA has been encouraged by the increase in applications for courses linked to science and technology.
The figures show students deserting courses linked to the property and construction sectors.

First-preference applications for construction courses dropped from 2,225 in 2009 to 1,758 in 2010. These make up 2.8 per cent of first preference applicants compared to 7.1 per cent in 2007.

The HEA said the record level of applications shows that demand for higher education remains very strong. It anticipates that more third-level places than ever before will be offered this autumn.

More than two out of three 18-year-olds in Ireland proceed to higher education compared to one in five 30 years ago, the authority said. However, the record student numbers will place further strains on the higher education sector, which is already struggling to cope with a six per cent drop in funding.

Earlier this year, HEA chief executive Tom Boland raised the prospect of a cap on student numbers at third level. While colleges have ruled out a cap this year, pressure on funding means they cannot expand the number of places to meet increased demand.

There are over 110,000 full-time undergraduate students in Ireland. Mr Boland has warned that the State “cannot increase the student numbers year on year’’ without addressing funding. Irish Times

experiMental

_kayla_ wrote: »

The numbers this year applying are unreal heard 2000 applyed to iadt!

I'm in DIT at the moment, doing product design, where some of our lecturers also teach other design courses.

Firstly, I find it surprising that so many have applied to IADT and graphic design courses in general. It's a tough industry that may have an uncertain future, and since the print industry is slowly contracting, there will be even less demand for graphic designers.

Secondly, I find it surprising that not too many people have applied to NCAD because of portfolio brief. The brief is designed to help you. It's already setting constraints, and in real life you will be designing under constraints.

if you have too little time, read this, cos this is the most important part of the post which is most relevant to the topic

Finally, as for those who have put in a lot of work into portfolio but haven't got in, don't feel down. In DIT, some of my lecturers were on the reviewing panel. They are looking for lateral thinking, intuitive work and potential for innovation. I agree about the intuitive work bit, because if you've done a bunch of graphics tutorials and used this as portfolio, it doesn't show necessary initiative needed for industry. I disagree slightly with innovation and lateral thinking bit, because being good is more important than being original. If you are designing something, you have to find a way of connecting with an audience. I don't see how a panel of about 12 or so lecturers(probably less in DIT due to staff cutbacks) can decide how your work can impact a large audience. There is never a guarantee that they can go into the mind of about 1000 random people with 1000 different personalities.

Also, how is it possible to tell how much you will improve by the time you graduate, if you are required to submit the work you've done in the period of one or two years?

And on another note, don't feel bad if you haven't got into a design course. Your should think more about how to find yourself a way to make a living, rather than how to be a designer. Service-based occupations like design don't last that long, and they are not stable. I guarantee that after you graduate, you'll still have to come up with a way to make a living.

How about paying for short courses? For example, some professional designers are running animation or cartooning or poster design courses in Temple Bar and some other places. You have to pay, but you don't need portfolio. Visit galleries, design studios, community projects that deal with design. Just do a couple of these courses, produce your own work, talk to people who have graphics software and try to network a bit. There are ways out.

muselover

I got a letter too, I applied for Fine Art. The letter just said I was unsuccessful and didn't give me any score out of 600. How do I find out?

Chorcai

muselover wrote: »

I got a letter too, I applied for Fine Art. The letter just said I was unsuccessful and didn't give me any score out of 600. How do I find out?

BlueNemo wrote: »

I've emailed them and they sent out my marks sheet.. Which was no help as they gave me the same (low) mark in every single box. Looks like someone wanted to have a coffee break.......

I think you can request it.

greener greene

BlueNemo wrote: »

I've emailed them and they sent out my marks sheet.. Which was no help as they gave me the same (low) mark in every single box. Looks like someone wanted to have a coffee break.......

Hmm who did you talk to to get you marks sheet?

BlueNemo

greener greene wrote: »

Hmm who did you talk to to get you marks sheet?

I literally just complained by email to the admissions office about my marks, asked could I find out were i went wrong. My reply was simply the attachment of my marks sheet. They weren't even bothered to write a simple paragraph explaining it was my marks, I nearly deleted it thinking it was a virus.

BlueNemo

OctavarIan wrote: »

Add me to the list of people who have been given bizarre review scores. Months of praise from my lecturers, peers and media professionals, only to be failed without explanation. Doesn't add up at all. And I'd somewhat understand if I had applied for Fine Art but I applied for Vis Com, and design isn't as subjective as art.

Hopefully IADT aren't this inconsistent and downright baffling. Anyone know when their results are out?

I'm the very very same. I applied for both Fine Art and Vis Comm (kinda thought hey, if i dont get one, maybe i'll get the other)... Turns out both where unsuccessful. I applied for Design Display too.. Surprise Surprise the marks were unsuccessful in that too.



One thing that really annoyed me, was the fact I got the same mark in every box on my mark sheets, a clean 50. You'd think they'd give a 45 or 55 somewhere, just to shake things up a bit.:rolleyes:

greener greene

BlueNemo wrote: »

I literally just complained by email to the admissions office about my marks, asked could I find out were i went wrong. My reply was simply the attachment of my marks sheet. They weren't even bothered to write a simple paragraph explaining it was my marks, I nearly deleted it thinking it was a virus.

I'd better get complaining then! yeah the system seems to be a bit of a joke.

dan759

I'm going to suggest something, which i know will sound like im suggesting some form of conspiracy.

But does anyone else think that there are other factors that come into the whole thing than just your portfolio. Because honestly its a bit too random.

greener greene

Hmmmm like what though? and how would they know about the person behind the portfolio?

dan759

I dunno .. was just something i've heard from a lot of people recently. Been hearing stories of different scores different years for the exact same portfolios too. Some of it seems far fetched but then keeps coming back to mind lol

greener greene

dan759 wrote: »

I dunno .. was just something i've heard from a lot of people recently. Been hearing stories of different scores different years for the exact same portfolios too. Some of it seems far fetched but then keeps coming back to mind lol

Well from the scores people have been reporting, I assume they use some kind of eeny meeny miney mo system to award the scores.

melekalikimaka

i question the system quite alot. maybe get onto welfare bout it being looked into

Chorcai

I would like to see some pic's of work by people who got low and high scores.

When I was submitting stuff I honestly thought I didnt stand a chance but yet I got 540 ?
I am happy I got the points don't get me wrong but still I question the way in which things are marked, plus the lack feedback if you get good or bad results.

BlueNemo

I've submitted my portfolio to a few other colleges so it'll be interesting to see how they mark it. If I get similiar marks I'll know it wasn't a good portfolio, but if I do manage to get marks leaning towards the higher end of the scale, well I'll be doing some serious complaining to DIT.:mad:

This happened to me last year, I was unsuccessful in DIT, and another college gave me 490 points. Shame I never followed it up and just repeated my portfolio course.

You'd think after 2 years in a prep course you'd be able to give a college what they wanted

BlueNemo

greener greene wrote: »

I'd better get complaining then! yeah the system seems to be a bit of a joke.

I just mailed them literally saying 'Hi, Im not happy with my score, tell me where I've gone wrong.'

Only took them a day to reply actually, at least they're sufficent at that.

spinandscribble

Blue nemo thats awful, in your course what did ur tutors say? Is it a full time course?

dan759

I know the feeling Blue Nemo.. I've spent two years working on my portfolio too. All my tutors said they thought my projects were really strong.. I also went to an art college in whales for an interview and the two guys that are head of the photography department said they were very impressed with my portfolio too

Which brings me back to DIT probably having an eeny meeny miny moe selection process

greener greene

dan759 wrote: »

I know the feeling Blue Nemo.. I've spent two years working on my portfolio too. All my tutors said they thought my projects were really strong.. I also went to an art college in whales for an interview and the two guys that are head of the photography department said they were very impressed with my portfolio too

Which brings me back to DIT probably having an eeny meeny miny moe selection process

They don't deserve students who put this much in and care so much just to get initial acceptance!

Chorcai

dan759 wrote: »

I know the feeling Blue Nemo.. I've spent two years working on my portfolio too. All my tutors said they thought my projects were really strong.. I also went to an art college in whales for an interview and the two guys that are head of the photography department said they were very impressed with my portfolio too

Which brings me back to DIT probably having an eeny meeny miny moe selection process

Dan did you request your results ?? I was :eek: when you didn't get in. I seen your stuff and it is very good.

dan759

Thanks very much chorcai

Yeah i requested the sheet, I scored "Satisfactory" in each of the marking components. But i dont really buy it cause i know for at least "technical & practical ability" i did an awful lot.

I would understand if they were selecting the best of the best and someone had much better work than me, but as i said already on this thread, i've seen other peoples portfolios for DIT and theie stuff was very questionable and they got high scores

And now i find myself asking if i even want to go to dit.. From my LC i have 360 points.. so my LC and the portfolio bring me to 660, which is higher than what was needed last year.. so if points happen to drop or stay the same i can probably expect an offer, the only thing is i'm not sure if i want it anymore lol

spinandscribble

Have you applied anywhere else Dan?