Eircom apparently upgrading to 8mb?

crxsi09

Just changed from perlico to eircom, got the 1mb bundle as rep called to door and said that in june all 1mb and 3mb customers with eircom will be upgraded to 8mb automatically, and most importantly free of charge. Anyone hear of this? He said it should be going up on website in few weeks, 8mb is already available, theyre just waiting to launch it's phase 2 upgrade of broadband speed.

maccer666

hi,
up until recently i taught the best eircom had was 7mb,i know they have 24mb now,never heard of 8mb,i reckon the rep ment the 7mb,currently on the 3mb myself but if theres a free upgrade going i aint going to say no to it,cheers for the info will be keeping an eye on that 1.

pizzahead77

Not sure if Eircom will be offering "up to 8Mb" for residential customers but they have been for Business customers for 6 months plus.

aerocell

It will be up to 8Mb
Basically you will have a 10gig cap on the 1Mb line and on the 3Mb line will be capped at 30gig.
You will be charged for every gig over this, 2euro per gig I think
Basically you will get the highest speed up to 8Mb that you line can handle.

Sarn

Was upgraded last month from 3 Mb to 8 Mb (brother works for them). Holy crap just did a speed test, used the eircom test and sppedtest.net to check and it's averaging at 40 Mb/s and I'm using wireless! :eek:

Could that be cached files producing that result?

Edit: Nevermind, it's fluctuating from 7 Mb/s to 120 Mb/s

lawrencesummers

crxsi09 wrote: »

Just changed from perlico to eircom, got the 1mb bundle as rep called to door and said that in june all 1mb and 3mb customers with eircom will be upgraded to 8mb automatically, and most importantly free of charge. Anyone hear of this? He said it should be going up on website in few weeks, 8mb is already available, theyre just waiting to launch it's phase 2 upgrade of broadband speed.

is that the same speed upgrade that was supposed to happen this january? one of these days the tought might cross your mind that the rep was telling you what you wanted to hear to get you to sign. maybe hes right, but i doubt it

Baneblade

heard its happening in april in the dublin area

and as aerocell pointed out its cap based pricing so they will start charging for excess usage. notice the way the stats page is only 3 months history now so you cant see your previous usage levels.

ninja 12

Baneblade wrote: »

as aerocell pointed out its cap based pricing so they will start charging for excess usage. notice the way the stats page is only 3 months history now so you cant see your previous usage levels.

If they're going to start charging for excess downloading , are they going to fix the stats page ? - I'm on the 7meg package with a download allowance of 50GB , but their stats page says I have an allowance of 40GB .

Also , since they changed the stats page , it's running 2 days behind - previously , it was updated at midnight and was easy to keep an eye on what you've downloaded .

ninja 12

ninja 12 wrote: »

If they're going to start charging for excess downloading , are they going to fix the stats page ? - I'm on the 7meg package with a download allowance of 50GB , but their stats page says I have an allowance of 40GB.

Yeah same here. I've an email saved from them stating that it should be 50GB just in case the blighters start charging.

enfant terrible

Will these be their new packages
http://broadbandsupport.eircom.net/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/&/?St=160&E=0000000000225689169&K=9213&Sxi=12&Case=obj%2810686%29

Anyone know if you can sign up to their unlimited package yet?
Next Generation Broadband Advanced - Unlimited*

PogMoThoin

At least they state their limit on the unlimited package

*Unlimited usage subject to a fair usage policy of 250GB

_Whimsical_

When did they start charging for overuse?

I've never even checked my stats on Eircom. Thought they were going to turn a blind eye to how much we were all downloading and not charge.

enfant terrible

chilly wrote: »

When did they start charging for overuse?

I've never even checked my stats on Eircom. Thought they were going to turn a blind eye to how much we were all downloading and not charge.

They haven't yet but it looks like they might start with their new package set up

amacachi

If they try charging for me going over their joke of a cap they'll have one less customer.

thefinalstage

The packages will be all upto 8mb meaning your line will sync at the max possible upto that speed. The upload will be 512kb

The packages will be differentiated by download rather then speed.

The 1mb - 8mb package has a cap of 10gb usage as in upload and download.

The 3mb - 8mb package has a cap of 30gb usage

The 7mb - 8mb package has no cap but a fair usage policy

They will all remain the same price

Eircom will be rolling this out until the end of the year.

Initially it will just be in Dublin.

Do not worry about going over the limit to much. Regardless of how much you download you won't be charged to much.

thelastangryman

thelastangryman wrote: »

Eircom will be rolling this out until the end of the year.

Initially it will just be in Dublin.

Awww I was hoping I'd have my new unlimited cap next month I believe the new charges come in on Sunday so I thought the new packages would come in after Easter.

marko91

so my 7mb package will go up to 8mb?
im usualy getting between 4-5mb tops i dont imagine i will see any average improvement?also my upload is 384kbps will that be increased also?
hopefully my ping is improved i need that for ps3 gaming:D

thefinalstage

marko91 wrote: »

so my 7mb package will go up to 8mb?
im usualy getting between 4-5mb tops i dont imagine i will see any average improvement?also my upload is 384kbps will that be increased also?
hopefully my ping is improved i need that for ps3 gaming:D

You probaby won't see an increase in download speed but you may see an increase in upload speed.

The key to this ngb is that it is uncongested so the people moved to the the new 8mb service won't get slowdown in the evening time

fifth

So when is this happening? I'd love 8mb. I know I can get the full 7 mb on my line already so I'd say 8 should be grand too.

marko91

thelastangryman wrote: »

You probaby won't see an increase in download speed but you may see an increase in upload speed.

The key to this ngb is that it is uncongested so the people moved to the the new 8mb service won't get slowdown in the evening time

thats still great news would more upload speed = better online ping etc?

also since the 3mb lines are being upgraded to 8mb just like the 7mb should i downgrade to the 3mb package since next month ill be paying more for the same thingsorry it seems all chinese to be:o

I rang up and said I was thinking of cancelling and they told me it would be the next few months until this comes in

marko91

Deleted User wrote: »

I rang up and said I was thinking of cancelling and they told me it would be the next few months until this comes in

argghh...i came on boards ay in search of whats the best isp but seeing this thread i may aswell stay with eircom until i try this out at leist

Sponge Bob

It is coming in next week, in Dublin.

Do a tracert to www.boards.ie and carefully note any change in hop 2 or 3, the BRAS hop, over the next while.

kenny111

anybody know if the 75gb cap on the 24mb package will move to the 250gb fair use policy?

oisin

Sounds like good news at last, the no contention part in particluar. Maybe it's just coincidence, but since the introduction of the 25Mb packages my 7Mb connection drops to an average of about 1.5Mb to 2Mb every evening now, prior to that I got full speed all the time.

I've complained to Eircom several times to no avail. They sent me a text last week to say that the problem had been resolved at the exchange (Lucan) but it hasn't made any difference at my end.

I was thinking of switching but I think I'll hold off for now and see how this works out.

Does anyone have any info on the technical side of implementing this? What has changed that allows them to offer an uncontended service now?

The unlimited (250GB) sounds OK too. When I moved up to 7Mb package I never thought I'd use the 50GB a month but now I get close to it every month. Here's hoping things improve and we finally get a decent service.

Just had a look at the coverage map and it seems it's only available in Dublin, east of the M50

_John C

Lots of new scheduled areas have appeared on their map this evening. This morning it was only showing a green area over Dublin and no blue areas.

_John C

_John C wrote: »

Lots of new scheduled areas have appeared on their map this evening. This morning it was only showing a green area over Dublin and no blue areas.

What map? Can I get a link please?

_John C

http://www.nextgenerationbroadband.ie/

Click on "Coverage map"

jimi_t2

thelastangryman wrote: »

The 1mb - 8mb package has a cap of 10gb usage as in upload and download.

The 3mb - 8mb package has a cap of 30gb usage

The 7mb - 8mb package has no cap but a fair usage policy
a cap of 250gb

FYP

Do not worry about going over the limit to much. Regardless of how much you download you won't be charged to much.

You're basing this on...?

yomamasflavour

jimi_t2 wrote: »

FYP



You're basing this on...?

According to Eircom,

Caps will be enforced, 2 euro for every GB over the cap - to a max of 50 euros.

Seems a pretty crap deal, at least as is they dont enforce the cap which makes the broadband at least usable.

If they start enforcing the caps then the broadband will be nothing short of a joke. Getting broadband seriously sucks in this country.:mad:

yomamasflavour

yomamasflavour wrote: »

According to Eircom,

Caps will be enforced, 2 euro for every GB over the cap - to a max of 50 euros.

Could I ask your source for this? Surely you couldn't, say, go over by 100GB and still be charged for 25GB (€50)?

yomamasflavour

Deleted User wrote: »

Could I ask your source for this? Surely you couldn't, say, go over by 100GB and still be charged for 25GB (€50)?

enfant terrible posted the link to their products earlier.
http://www.eircom.net/ngb
Still though its a rough deal as the usage allowance (10GB, 30Gb etc) is inclusive of both upload and download, which sucks.

Oh yes I saw that on the website given to me earlier. But what will happen to those of us not on the NGB? Will we be charged at the same rate? I'm on 7mb but Limerick isn't blue on the coverage map. I have a 50gb allowance so will I be charged €2 per GB up to a max of €50? Or will they continue to turn a blind eye to those of us on the old packages?

therokerroar

Well, I can only manage a 2.5mb on my 3mb line, so if they start charging me for going over my 30GB limit (which happens every month due to the house being full of heavy internet users) they'll be losing me as a customer.

yomamasflavour

Deleted User wrote: »

Oh yes I saw that on the website given to me earlier. But what will happen to those of us not on the NGB? Will we be charged at the same rate? I'm on 7mb but Limerick isn't blue on the coverage map. I have a 50gb allowance so will I be charged €2 per GB up to a max of €50? Or will they continue to turn a blind eye to those of us on the old packages?

As it stands they can currently charge you 2 euro per GB over your 50Gb allowance.

From http://www.eircom.net/broadband/products/bbpackages/3/?view=Standard

It's just that they don't.

yomamasflavour

therokerroar wrote: »

Well, I can only manage a 2.5mb on my 3mb line, so if they start charging me for going over my 30GB limit (which happens every month due to the house being full of heavy internet users) they'll be losing me as a customer.

I've only the 3Mb line too. I'd jump ship in a heartbeat if I could it's just that there's no one else offering broadband in this part of Galway.

therokerroar

yomamasflavour wrote: »

I've only the 3Mb line too. I'd jump ship in a heartbeat if I could it's just that there's no one else offering broadband in this part of Galway.

I'm actually quite happy with Eircom as things stand. My bill averages around €75 a month, with a number of heavy phone and internet users in the household I can't complain with that figure at all and find it very reasonable.

However, I'll find it hard to justify paying the extra €50, when we inevitably exceed the 30GB download allowance.

jimi_t2

therokerroar wrote: »

I'm actually quite happy with Eircom as things stand. My bill averages around €75 a month, with a number of heavy phone and internet users in the household I can't complain with that figure at all and find it very reasonable.

Thats because we're used to being horribly shafted in ireland. If you live in any other European country (including ones that we'd normally group as the poor, Eastern European countries like Estonia) then you'd be getting at least 24mb Broadband, UNLIMITED national calls and a very decent digital TV package for less money.

Gonzo

will this download limit effect those of us who are not going to be on the Eircom NGN?

Broadband Kid

Gonzo wrote: »

will this download limit effect those of us who are not going to be on the Eircom NGN?

I certainly hope not Gonzo. I think it's just those who are on the NGN package in some parts of Dublin. I'm on 3mb but Cork isn't scheduled for NGN according to Eircom's coverage map.

flamegrill

Whats the story with 10meg and 12 meg users? Are we being left out in the cold or what?

thefinalstage

yomamasflavour wrote: »

According to Eircom,

Caps will be enforced, 2 euro for every GB over the cap - to a max of 50 euros.

Seems a pretty crap deal, at least as is they dont enforce the cap which makes the broadband at least usable.

If they start enforcing the caps then the broadband will be nothing short of a joke. Getting broadband seriously sucks in this country.:mad:

It's to a max of 50 euro including the price of your broadband.

yomamasflavour

thelastangryman wrote: »

It's to a max of 50 euro including the price of your broadband.

I saw that too and have been wondering about it.

Considering that their 7Mb package is 40 euros a month.
Surely it couldn't be a case of pay the 10 euros extra and then download all you want for the rest of the month?

If it was people would take them to the cleaners!:D

Denmark101

I'm with meteor mobile broadband and they advertise it as a 'fixed' monthly bill. I got a bill this month for 405 euro! For ONE month! I was paying the same rate for the first 6 months and using the internet more or less just as much and now all of a sudden they said I went over my monthly allowance. My bill date was just a week ago and I cheaked online and already it says this months broadband is 68euro on top of the fixed amount.
I didn't have time to change networks yet, will do next week- can someone suggest a network with a definate monthly fixed rate for unlimited use??

Sponge Bob

yomamasflavour wrote: »

Surely it couldn't be a case of pay the 10 euros extra and then download all you want for the rest of the month?

For you yes, the price cap is €50 a month and you will only pay for 5GB of excess usage to reach that price cap. The next problem is what happens if you bust 250gb.

However a 1mbit user could pay €35 a month in excess charges if they bust their 10gb cap big time.

Their traffic counter app does not work right now so they can charge nobody anything till it does.

shinzon

hmm its really weird that eircom have changed there model from speed to usage with these new packages, from day one my lines only been capable to 3meg according to eircom, so with these upgrades i would only expect to get 3meg

This might be the kick in the ass i need to leave them and go with somebody else in all honesty

Shin

bk

To be honest this is a big step backwards.

Previously Eircom didn't charge anyone for going over the cap and everyone knew exactly how much they would pay each month. Now we are going back to the old days of per minute dial-up and no one knowing how much it is going to cost them.

Speeds up to 8GB and no contention is pretty useless when you've only got a 10GB cap.

Also I have to laugh at Eircom calling crappy "upto" 8mb ADSL "Next Generation Broadband", what a load of bs.

Germag

As someone who knows nothing about anything ( except poker ) could someone please explain to me how I can find out my usage. I have the 3mb and only use the internet to play online poker, e-mails, boards and the very odd bit of music and video.

bk

shinzon wrote: »

hmm its really weird that eircom have changed there model from speed to usage with these new packages, from day one my lines only been capable to 3meg according to eircom, so with these upgrades i would only expect to get 3meg

Yup, it is taken from the BT playbook. This allows them to advertise "upto" 8mb BB and 24mb BB to better position themselves to compete with UPC, while in reality most people won't get anywhere near these speeds and most people probably won't realise. Meanwhile they manage to extract more money out of people with their sneaky caps.

I was wondering when Eircom was going to start doing this. You can forget about Eircom rolling out true NGN tech like FTTH. Instead they are just going to milk their existing network for everything it has and compete purely in terms of marketing rather then quality of service.

I expect the next step is to continue to slowly roll out ADSL2+ and it's "upto" 24mb BB products and then eventually start rolling out VDSL2+ from the exchange (note not FTTC) so that they can advertise "upto" 50mb BB, while most people still won't get faster then what they currently have.

Sneaky gits.

Broadband Kid

I'll be moving to Vodafone A.S.A.P.

shinzon

Yup, it is taken from the BT playbook

Exactly dealing with bt on an almost daily basis and there defintion of functional speedy broadband is a joke, seems eircoms going down this route as well and god help us all when they do,

Shin