MSAP Results

GSOIRL

Hi all.

I got my results today. I did very poorly in the written English. Judging by my Percentile score I got beaten by some non native English speakers. Well it was my 1st essay in over 15 years and even back then I was pretty crap Very happy with my critical reasoning score.

Anyone else get their results?

Connorzee

same boat as yourself. 43% in the written and 92% critical reasoning... whats next tho??

GSOIRL

43% you Skakepeare you. I did so bad they didn't even give me the exact %. Just said below 30% to spare my feelings. Got 98% in the other thing. So hopefully that means I'm not a complete thick. What were your actual scores? I'm interested to see how much below 30% I am

As for what next? I think we just have to wait and see.

Connorzee

haha.. my scaled score was 98 in the written

GSOIRL

Ok to save my dignity I am going to claim that the person correcting my essay was a non English speaker or could not see or could not read or or or.Anyone got anything better as an excuse. I need something.

I knew I should of sent in a 10 year old to do my test.:D

lindtee

Very, very unhappy with my results:(:( A friend did very, very well though:) (which made me feel even worse tbh)

As far as I am aware it is only Arts that use the MSAP to screen students out (last year the cut off was total 90 for arts in UCC (thats the scaled score not the percentile)

If you have applied for anything other than arts. the MSAP is only part of what they take into consideration

98% and 92% are excellent for the critical reasoning though guys, I think you should both pat yourselves on the back for that.

Whats next? Interviews for the courses applied for around may and then a lot of nail biting and hair pulling until August(or whenever they will let us know)

From reading a few other forums people who got a low overall score and/or percentile were still offered places......although none of these people had applied for arts.....

Sunset3

Im soooo embarrassed...... i got below 30... MORTO even... my scaled score in written was 63 and the reasoning was 65./. in fairness to the reasoning I had to make up over half as I had spent too much time on the 1st few questions so instead of handing it up empty I had to just tick tick tick... but the written I thought I had put alot of effort into.. obviously not!!!!! had V little time for essay no 2 aswell.. still Im gutted..

lindtee wrote: »

Very, very unhappy with my results:(:( A friend did very, very well though:) (which made me feel even worse tbh)

As far as I am aware it is only Arts that use the MSAP to screen students out (last year the cut off was total 90 for arts in UCC (thats the scaled score not the percentile)

If you have applied for anything other than arts. the MSAP is only part of what they take into consideration

98% and 92% are excellent for the critical reasoning though guys, I think you should both pat yourselves on the back for that.

Whats next? Interviews for the courses applied for around may and then a lot of nail biting and hair pulling until August(or whenever they will let us know)

From reading a few other forums people who got a low overall score and/or percentile were still offered places......although none of these people had applied for arts.....

December

Frustrated to say the least!

I personally would like to know how I did on the actual test - not just how I did against the others that took it. As the scalled results that they provide on the form isnt in % as the points can range up to 150 - (and they dont tell us the points the test are out of.) Or am I wrong? ...so confused.

((I got for English: 103 and Percentile of 53
For critical reasoning: 105 and Percentile of 60))

plavski

Got my results through today too, 141 in English, 141 in critical reasoning which is 99% in the essay, 99% in critical reasoning and hence a 99% final percentile.

I'm interested in the cut-offs though as I'm going for an arts degree in UCC.

December

Jeeze well done Plavski! ...and now we know the max points and can work out our personally results, cheers

lindtee

plavski wrote: »

Got my results through today too, 141 in English, 141 in critical reasoning which is 99% in the essay, 99% in critical reasoning and hence a 99% final percentile.

I'm interested in the cut-offs though as I'm going for an arts degree in UCC.

You are in the top 1%, I don't think you have to be worrying about cut-offs! Well done:) As I said above the cut off scores were 90 last year for arts in UCC (guidance counsellor where I am doing my course rang them to confirm this today)

Might as well say what I got- Over all percentile of 47%, total score of 101


So bloody gutted:(

lindtee

December wrote: »

Jeeze well done Plavski! ...and now we know the max points and can work out our personally results, cheers

My friend got 153 in the essay part:eek::eek: think her percentile score was also 99%

December

lindtee wrote: »

My friend got 153 in the essay part:eek::eek: think her percentile score was also 99%

:eek::eek: indeed :mad: heh

plavski

lindtee wrote: »

You are in the top 1%, I don't think you have to be worrying about cut-offs! Well done:) As I said above the cut off scores were 90 last year for arts in UCC (guidance counsellor where I am doing my course rang them to confirm this today)

Might as well say what I got- Over all percentile of 47%, total score of 101


So bloody gutted:(

I was into the UCC mature students office today and they confirmed it was about 87 or so on the result for last year.

101 should still be enough for arts though, as there are 100 places after all. I hope to be getting drunk with you come the autumn

Delightful12

Guys


Im not so sure if I did really bad or just average and my brain is frazzled - could someone please tell me if I am correct ?

Section 1, scaled score 95 percentile 37
Section 2, scaled score 102 percentile 54

Overall msap score 99
Overall percentile 42


So, risking sounding stupid I got 42% ? meaning ucd or ucc will not offer me a place ?

plavski

Delightful12 wrote: »

Guys


Im not so sure if I did really bad or just average and my brain is frazzled - could someone please tell me if I am correct ?

Section 1, scaled score 95 percentile 37
Section 2, scaled score 102 percentile 54

Overall msap score 99
Overall percentile 42


So, risking sounding stupid I got 42% ? meaning ucd or ucc will not offer me a place ?

It depends on the cut-off point - the point above which you need to score to be considered as a mature student for the course. The cut-off point on arts in UCC last year was about 87-90 on the overall msap score and you scored above this so you'll be above the cut-off if the score is the same as last year. If it isn't, obviously things will be different for you depending on the new level.

The percentile thing is just to show you where you stand really; at 42% your exam results were better than 42% of the rest of the country.

lindtee

Delightful12 wrote: »

Guys


Im not so sure if I did really bad or just average and my brain is frazzled - could someone please tell me if I am correct ?

Section 1, scaled score 95 percentile 37
Section 2, scaled score 102 percentile 54

Overall msap score 99
Overall percentile 42


So, risking sounding stupid I got 42% ? meaning ucd or ucc will not offer me a place ?

No, the percentile score means that you did as well as or better than 42% of the people who sat the exam. There is no way of finding out for sure what percentage you got in the actual exam itself as no-one is sure of the maximum possible score. UCC and UCD may very well offer you a place. Last year the cut off score (not percentile) was approx 90 for UCC for Arts and anyone who was over that got offered a place, and you are over that:) Hopefully they won't raise it too much this year.

plavski

Anyone else fancy posting the same information again? Maybe he'll learn on the third post

lindtee

plavski wrote: »

Anyone else fancy posting the same information again? Maybe he'll learn on the third post

Sorry:o Had to sort out fighting children in the middle of typing my post and didn't see yours until I had it posted.

Delightful12

Many thanks plavski and lindtee for your help - I really really appreciate it.

Congratulations plavski on your really high score its fantastic
and thank you lindtee, dont know what your score is but best of luck !

Hope you both get what you are looking for

D

Connorzee

plavski wrote: »

I was into the UCC mature students office today and they confirmed it was about 87 or so on the result for last year.

101 should still be enough for arts though, as there are 100 places after all. I hope to be getting drunk with you come the autumn

100 places in ucc?? or countrywide?

December

100 places for UCC for the arts programme ^

Eliza Lynch

Hi!
Just wondering if anyone has got results back from the MSAPS in UCC.
My bf did them but it wasnt for the english it was for the Social sciences?
Any insight would be much appreciated.

lindtee

Eliza Lynch wrote: »

Hi!
Just wondering if anyone has got results back from the MSAPS in UCC.
My bf did them but it wasnt for the english it was for the Social sciences?
Any insight would be much appreciated.

Tell him to check his email. The results were emailed yesterday.

The msap exam was the same for everyone. I have applied for Social Work and social science, arts was my final choice.

Eliza Lynch

Thank you, another question....
CAO wise when do mature students get their results?
I thought for some reason it was earlier! Just he was looking in to the change of mind?

I rang UCC and for his course the MSAps count as 30%, with interviews etc so slightly different from Arts.

lindtee

Eliza Lynch wrote: »

Thank you, another question....
CAO wise when do mature students get their results?
I thought for some reason it was earlier! Just he was looking in to the change of mind?

I rang UCC and for his course the MSAps count as 30%, with interviews etc so slightly different from Arts.

I think a first round of CAO offers for mature studentscome out in July (I may be wrong on this though) Check out this link for change of mind information (not sure myself) http://www.cao.ie/index.php?page=aboutCOM

Interviews are around May I have been told.

plavski

Tell him to go in and talk to the people at the Mature Students office. They're both nice and helpful (and pretty!).

They told me that the notifications will go out in the first week of July and there's a two week window to accept.

Nice of you to do all this for him though

stevewales0

Hi, I applied for UCC but took the test in Dublin, does anyone know (roughly) how many where at the Cork sitting?
(I'm tryin to work-out if I'm in with a shout for an Arts course)
Thanks
BTW
the overall percentile score tells you only what percentage of the total number of applicants did better than you
ie if your overall percentile was 49 then 50% of the total takers did better than you. It's not really a grade at all.

stevewales0

sorry, that's another explanation of the obvious.
I'll look-out for plavski nxt year, should be easy, sarcasm's like wearing a sign ;-)

lindtee

stevewales0 wrote: »

Hi, I applied for UCC but took the test in Dublin, does anyone know (roughly) how many where at the Cork sitting?
(I'm tryin to work-out if I'm in with a shout for an Arts course)
Thanks
BTW
the overall percentile score tells you only what percentage of the total number of applicants did better than you
ie if your overall percentile was 49 then 50% of the total takers did better than you. It's not really a grade at all.

I'd say it was about 1000:eek::eek: There were 4 test centres in UCC on the day and there was about 250 where I sat mine. A lot more than last year sat it, I'd say:( I also noted that the percentiles this year were lower than the percentiles for the same scores last year, lots more competition:( I should have gone back to college before the economy went bust

plavski

stevewales0 wrote: »

Hi, I applied for UCC but took the test in Dublin, does anyone know (roughly) how many where at the Cork sitting?
(I'm tryin to work-out if I'm in with a shout for an Arts course)
Thanks
BTW
the overall percentile score tells you only what percentage of the total number of applicants did better than you
ie if your overall percentile was 49 then 50% of the total takers did better than you. It's not really a grade at all.

As with lindy above, I sat it in Cork and there were about 60 or 70 in my room which was one of four. There were four centres in Cork and so the 1000 person ballpark seems about right.

And yeah, I'll be the smartarse Brit doing English and Psychology

emma06901

Hi,
Got my results... overall percentile 66. Overall score 109! Pretty average I think, I may kiss bye bye to my 1st choice!
Does anyone know, if I dont have my UCD course as my first choice, will I still be offered an interview (if my score is good enough?)
Also, I know in Trinity, students that score over a certain % in the aptitude test qualify for interview. If the interview is passed also, the course places are then allocated to the students that scored higher in the test, is this the case with UCD?

Capricorn1

I am absolutely gutted, my score was a disgrace. I got 88 for written english and 88 for critical thinking, that's 88 in total with a percentile of below 30.

I am shocked that I scored so low. I won't argue with the critical thinking but I refuse to believe that I could be that bad at written english. I am currently doing a FETAC level 5 course in Applied Social Studies, I have received a high Distinction in every single assignment. If my english is so bad, surely I would not be doing so well on the course.

I will be looking into this as I firmly believe there has to be a mistake. Is there anybody else out there in the same boat.

lindtee

Capricorn1 wrote: »

I am absolutely gutted, my score was a disgrace. I got 88 for written english and 88 for critical thinking, that's 88 in total with a percentile of below 30.

I am shocked that I scored so low. I won't argue with the critical thinking but I refuse to believe that I could be that bad at written english. I am currently doing a FETAC level 5 course in Applied Social Studies, I have received a high Distinction in every single assignment. If my english is so bad, surely I would not be doing so well on the course.

I will be looking into this as I firmly believe there has to be a mistake. Is there anybody else out there in the same boat.

I didn't do well either and I am also doing a Social Studies course:( which I am doing well in. MSAP won't enter into any re-scoring of the test, I am afraid to say. I totally blanked for the essays and I know I didn't do my best on the day. As for the critical thinking, I just didn't "get it" Don't beat yourself up about this, it is no reflection of how intelligent you are. What have you applied for? Arts is the only thing that the MSAP has the most bearing on, if you have applied for anything else, your personal statement and interview are about 70% of the assessment process, plus you have done very well in your current course which they will also take into consideration. Try not to take this too hard.

Capricorn1

lindtee wrote: »

I didn't do well either and I am also doing a Social Studies course:( which I am doing well in. MSAP won't enter into any re-scoring of the test, I am afraid to say. I totally blanked for the essays and I know I didn't do my best on the day. As for the critical thinking, I just didn't "get it" Don't beat yourself up about this, it is no reflection of how intelligent you are. What have you applied for? Arts is the only thing that the MSAP has the most bearing on, if you have applied for anything else, your personal statement and interview are about 70% of the assessment process, plus you have done very well in your current course which they will also take into consideration. Try not to take this too hard.

Thanks Lindtee, I was in a really bad mood when I posted my comment, I've decided to let it go now . I've applied for the Social Science course in UCD so hopefully my personal statement is alot better than the MSAP, fingers crossed. Good luck with your chosen course.

vanla sighs

Very interesting hearing other MSAP results. I had nearly convinced myself that I would get a very low MSAP score but didn't do as badly as I'd thought. An overall MSAP score of 122, an overall percentile of 91%. Surprised at that to be honest. Arts is my first choice at UCC, Social Science is my second choice and Government is my third choice.

If I understand correctly when it comes to Arts whether you get a place or not is solely down to your MSAP score? Was in touch with the mature students office at UCC and was told that basically I had a place on Arts with the MSAP score I had (unless the UCC cut off score changes absolutely drastically) Pleased with that but wondering if I have a guaranteed place on Arts (my first choice) whether I can accept any course under my first choice? If I now wanted to say accept Government (should I get it!) could I as it's my third choice? Just wondering, very happy with Arts in any case.

December

As far as I was told by CAO, if you get an offer from your first choice you won't be given any other offers. But, for example, if you were offered your third choice, then in later rounds you could be offered and accept any other choices above that one - 2nd and 1st choice.

I was also told that some universities can kinda tell you in advance (ie at an interview) if they were going to offer you a place... so if you knew that, you could change the order of the courses to suit. You can change the order of your courses from May 1st via CAO - can't remember the deadline of that though.

kellibee

wow when you guys say the cut off for arts is 90 do you mean overall percentile? I got 80 overall percentile and my friend got somewhere in the 40's and his guidance councillor said that was fairly average so I'm really confused over this thing!!!:

MisterMonkey

plavski wrote: »

Got my results through today too, 141 in English, 141 in critical reasoning which is 99% in the essay, 99% in critical reasoning and hence a 99% final percentile.

I'm interested in the cut-offs though as I'm going for an arts degree in UCC.

i got 99 in critical reasoning aswell but got 147 so there must be a bit of a margin

lindtee

kellibee wrote: »

wow when you guys say the cut off for arts is 90 do you mean overall percentile? I got 80 overall percentile and my friend got somewhere in the 40's and his guidance councillor said that was fairly average so I'm really confused over this thing!!!:

No! A overall score of 90:) not percentile.

allyatsea

Hey guys, got my results too couple of days ago, I'm actually surprised they came out this quickly, was expecting to have to wait a lot longer.

Got 106 scaled score in written English (60 percentile)
120 in critical reasoning (87 percentile)

Got overall scaled score of 113 and overall percentile of 75.

I'm really happy with my result. I didn't think I would do so well in the second part as I got a bit frazzled by some of the questions and lost a lot of time at the beginning. I had actually thought the essay part would be better than multiple choice questions.
Also at the end when they were collecting the papers I was just comparing my result sheet to the people around me and got completely different answers... Got me really quite nervous.

Anyway I'm hoping to get into UCD general Arts next year (DN012). Does anyone know what the cut off score was last year?

dr gonzo

allyatsea wrote: »

Hey guys, got my results too couple of days ago, I'm actually surprised they came out this quickly, was expecting to have to wait a lot longer.

Got 106 scaled score in written English (60 percentile)
120 in critical reasoning (87 percentile)

Got overall scaled score of 113 and overall percentile of 75.

I'm really happy with my result. I didn't think I would do so well in the second part as I got a bit frazzled by some of the questions and lost a lot of time at the beginning. I had actually thought the essay part would be better than multiple choice questions.
Also at the end when they were collecting the papers I was just comparing my result sheet to the people around me and got completely different answers... Got me really quite nervous.

Anyway I'm hoping to get into UCD general Arts next year (DN012). Does anyone know what the cut off score was last year?

I cant remember my score but it wasnt great, the essay was definitely terrible and im finishing first year arts now. I would say youre completely fine because im almost sure you kicked my ass at the MSAP and they let me in.

Delightful12

HI Guys

Does anyone outthere know how many sat the MSAP nationwide ?
Any idea of the numbers who sat in Galway and Dublin ?

Wonder what the minimum entry to UCD was last year ?

Thanks

D

Eliza Lynch

Has anyone got any interview dates yet? I was told they would be given out around easter?
I am mostly interested in UCC but any feedback would be good.

allyatsea

Hey Guys, just wanted to let you know, I got an offer for arts omnibus at UCD! Hurray!

lindtee

I scraped into the interview process for Social Work, the cut off was 100, and I got 101:eek: I got the place though so all the tears and devastation were for nothing:)

Larianne

lindtee wrote: »

I scraped into the interview process for Social Work, the cut off was 100, and I got 101:eek: I got the place though so all the tears and devastation were for nothing:)

Congrats!!

lindtee

Larianne wrote: »

Congrats!!

Thanks:) Can't believe it really, what was only a dream (going to UCC) a few years ago is a reality. Still very nervous (and not even sure am I doing the right thing) but I'm sure I'll get over that.

Larianne

lindtee wrote: »

Thanks:) Can't believe it really, what was only a dream (going to UCC) a few years ago is a reality. Still very nervous (and not even sure am I doing the right thing) but I'm sure I'll get over that.

It took me 10 years to have the courage and belief in myself to do the course I wanted. I haven't regretted it yet. It's the best decision I've made in my life!

Best of luck and don't worry, we're all here to help each other out in this forum!

blackangel66

Hi

I was wondering did you get and interview for your chosen course with those results? thanks

harry945

Exam Score 1 Score 2 Score 3 Overall
MSAP 094 096 n/a 095

hi all, the above score was mailed to me, could someone please explain the result of the above or the percentitile, thanking you in advance