Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon [** SPOILERS FROM POST 823 ONWARD **]

JP Liz V1

Showing he has relinquished little control of all aspects of the "Transformers" franchise, director and producer Michael Bay released a statement on Monday providing new details on the third installment of the Robots vs. Robots series.
Bay announced that Oscar winner Frances McDormand and John Malkovich will join the cast of "Transformers 3." It appears McDormand will have an integral role in the film as the National Intelligence Director. Malkvoich will play franchise lead Shia LaBeouf's first boss (whether he's already out of college is unclear). Bay also disclosed that popular character actor Ken Jeong is on board and just in case you didn't know he who was, Bay describes him as, "the super funny actor stuck in the trunk from 'Hangover' and the Doctor from 'Knocked Up.'"
The populist filmmaker also revealed that the newest Autobot will be based on a Ferrari 458 Italia.
The Paramount Pictures production will begin pre-shoots in a month in multiple locales including Los Angeles, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Florida, Texas, Moscow and China. "Transformers 3" was written by Ehren Kruger and is scheduled for release on July 1, 2011.

Dr. Ken on board not good

chin_grin

It's going to be f*cking terrible. Ah well. Transformers, Boredom in Disguise.

PrettyBoy

Megan Fox, a Ferrari that turns into a robot, explosions...what's not to like? :pac:

It's hardly going to give The Green Mile a run for its money but what do you expect from a film franchise based on toys from the '80's? You guys shouldn't take these things too seriously. I can only speak for myself but sometimes I like to relax and watch a movie for pure, action-packed entertainment.

indough

PrettyBoy wrote: »

I can only speak for myself but sometimes I like to relax and watch a movie for pure, action-packed entertainment.

so do i but i thought the 2nd installment was absolutely crap, whereas i didnt mind the first one as much for some reason

there are degrees of quality even within the realm of switch-your-brain-off movies anyway

MickShamrock

Don't care to see this. Haven't even seen the 2nd one.

jaykhunter

Well you know what to expect in a Michael Bay Transformers film now! If you didn't like the first two you've no right to complain if you go see the third one and don't like it!! Gotta lower your expectations (and IQ) going into Michael Baysplosion's films :pac::pac::pac:

Hate Dr. Ken I'll still go see it though

Galvasean

#2 was a missed opportunity IMO. There were a few great action scenes. Unfortunately there was too much buffer around them. Had they shaved 30-40 minutes off of it we would have been left with a quality little high octane eye candy action movie.

I hear they are toying with the idea of doing the third one in 3D. Transformers is definately a franchise that would benefit from 3D (in before someone makes Megan Fox joke).

indough

and if they didnt have the robotic minstrel twins

3d would definitely suit it if done well

Antar Bolaeisk

Galvasean wrote: »

#2 was a missed opportunity IMO. There were a few great action scenes. Unfortunately there was too much buffer around them. Had they shaved 30-40 minutes off of it we would have been left with a quality little high octane eye candy action movie.

I hear they are toying with the idea of doing the third one in 3D. Transformers is definately a franchise that would benefit from 3D (in before someone makes Megan Fox joke).

I've no jokes but I did just get a mental image of a close up of Megan Fox in 3D

After Michael Bay parodied himself with the last one I have no hope for this one being any good, it was just endless shouting and blowy up things. I managed to fall asleep during it I was that bored.

Kettle316

I cant wait!! More mindless action with more close ups of megan fox!! Whats not to like about that??

blue movie

hopefully it will be be more like the first one and less like the 2nd with its endless filler

Joey the lips

Megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox

Cant wait....

Richard Dower

Megan is waaaaay overrated in every dept.

I didn't mind part 2, in fact I even cried during a certain scene which transported me back to the first time I watched the animated film. The first film is the better but there are enough moments of greatness in part 2 to redeem it.

krudler

Richard Dower wrote: »

Megan is waaaaay overrated in every dept.

Indeed, theres something just beyond trashy about her, she tends to look like a shemale hooker at times as well

krudler

I like the first, its got robots fighting and splosions, what more do you want? the 2nd is awful though, and if only one of the main characters had the cop on to use the shard they use on Jetfire on Optimus instead they would have knocked nearly an hour off the running time

indough

Richard Dower wrote: »

Megan is waaaaay overrated in every dept.

i dunno i think shes very sexy alright but she also has that sort of slutty look, im not saying she is one or anything though!

PrettyBoy

Richard Dower wrote: »

Megan is waaaaay overrated in every dept.

krudler wrote: »

Indeed, theres something just beyond trashy about her, she tends to look like a shemale hooker at times as well

Jaysus lads I'd love to see pictures of your girlfriends :rolleyes:

chopperbyrne

krudler wrote: »

I like the first, its got robots fighting and splosions, what more do you want? the 2nd is awful though,

The second had even more robots fighting and more explosions, what more do you want?

krudler wrote: »

and if only one of the main characters had the cop on to use the shard they use on Jetfire on Optimus instead they would have knocked nearly an hour off the running time

Nope, Optimus was killed and his spark (soul) was up in robot heaven. Jetfire had simply ran out of power.

Joey the lips

Richard Dower wrote: »

Megan is waaaaay overrated in every dept.

Thank you. That leaves more for me.

krudler wrote: »

Indeed, theres something just beyond trashy about her, she tends to look like a shemale hooker at times as well

I will take 2 so...:D

indough wrote: »

i dunno i think shes very sexy alright but she also has that sort of slutty look, im not saying she is one or anything though!

Thats exactly it... She has the look of a slut with the lifestyle of a pro... perfect combination.

Will enjoy the film.

I still think 1 was the best.

krudler

chopperbyrne wrote: »

The second had even more robots fighting and more explosions, what more do you want?



Nope, Optimus was killed and his spark (soul) was up in robot heaven. Jetfire had simply ran out of power.

Isnt the whole point of the allspark that it can create life from nothing? it makes toasters into living robots,stands to reason it can do the same with a dead one, it created their entire civilisation surely it can do more than jumpstart an old transformer?

krudler

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Jaysus lads I'd love to see pictures of your girlfriends :rolleyes:

why? just because shockingly someone doesnt find Megan Fox attractive? she just doesnt do it for me, shes "hot", but not in an attractive way.

PrettyBoy

krudler wrote: »

she just doesnt do it for me, shes "hot", but not in an attractive way.

More in a shemale hooker way?

Galvasean

krudler wrote: »

Isnt the whole point of the allspark that it can create life from nothing? it makes toasters into living robots,stands to reason it can do the same with a dead one, it created their entire civilisation surely it can do more than jumpstart an old transformer?

Optimus is more complex than a living toaster and needs more juice?
Oh wait, it brought Megatron back to life... hmmm....

chin_grin

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Megan Fox, a Ferrari that turns into a robot, explosions...what's not to like? :pac:

It's hardly going to give The Green Mile a run for its money but what do you expect from a film franchise based on toys from the '80's? You guys shouldn't take these things too seriously. I can only speak for myself but sometimes I like to relax and watch a movie for pure, action-packed entertainment.

I'm not taking it "too seriously" the films were f*cking boring! :pac:

Also even Megan Fox (the thumb! the thuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb!) can't sway my opinion on this.

Simian!

indough wrote: »

i dunno i think shes very sexy alright but she also has that sort of slutty look, im not saying she is one or anything though!

And she's the spit of Stacey from Eastenders

fitz

Galvasean wrote: »

Optimus is more complex than a living toaster and needs more juice?
Oh wait, it brought Megatron back to life... hmmm....

Didn't that require the sacrifice of one of the other Decepticons though?
Not a likely thing for Autobots to do, even to get Prime back.

The poorest thing about the Transformer movies is that you know while watching them, that there's a fantastic movie in there bursting to get out, it's just totally obscured by Bay's need for purile jokes and lack of taste.

Galvasean

fitz wrote: »

Didn't that require the sacrifice of one of the other Decepticons though?
Not a likely thing for Autobots to do, even to get Prime back.

Well, Megatron was literally missing an arm and a leg... Although Prime was missing most of his chest... I guess.

Kess73

It's simple, the movie needs....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZVu546E68

And it can stick to the original Marvel comic origin for why they transfer into dinosaurs.

Bay can take his aversion to the Dinobots and stick it. His film needs them.

krudler

chopperbyrne wrote: »

The second had even more robots fighting and more explosions, what more do you want?



Nope, Optimus was killed and his spark (soul) was up in robot heaven. Jetfire had simply ran out of power.

What about Megatron? he was killed by the allspark itself and it brought him back

Galvasean

Kess73 wrote: »

And it can stick to the original Marvel comic origin for why they transfer into dinosaurs.

Bay can take his aversion to the Dinobots and stick it. His film needs them.

I don't know if they can use the whole 'Transformers were here before we thoughttehy were" angle again. They did it to explain Megatron's origin and the Fallen's origin. Doing it again is highly unoriginal.

Kess73

Galvasean wrote: »

I don't know if they can use the whole 'Transformers were here before we thoughttehy were" angle again. They did it to explain Megatron's origin and the Fallen's origin. Doing it again is highly unoriginal.

Since when has being unoriginal been a problem for Bay?


I want the Dinobots, original five, and proper Gen 1 forms. I want Shockwave, and I want a story that starts a lead in to Unicron.


Hell I even want the predacons so Grimlock and the boys have someone to kick around.

shellykbookey

Joey the lips wrote: »

Megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox megan fox

Cant wait....

After all that badmouthing she did against Bay (who she can thank for her "career" btw) I'd say if she manages to get into this film one of the transformers is going to step on her within the first 5 mins and there wont be any bending over

JP Liz V1

Patrick Dempsey is handing in his scalpel in for some heavier machinery.
The Grey's Anatomy star, 44, told Brazilian reporters he has joined the cast of Transformers 3, according to website BOL Noticias. Dempsey said he will be playing a "dark" role in the film and is set to begin shooting this summer.
Transformers 3, starring Shia LaBeouf and directed by Michael Bay, is set to hit theaters July 1, 2011.

Galvasean

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Patrick Dempsey is handing in his scalpel in for some heavier machinery.

Dark role eh?

= ?

Anakin.S

For me less transformers would be better, the last one had too many and was a bit crap because of it.

Please no Dinobots (sorry Kess)

Handsome Bob

God I hate that Hangover guy. Thought the last one would have been good had they cut out about 40 mins of needless explosions and running in the desert.

Kess73

Anakin.S wrote: »

For me less transformers would be better, the last one had too many and was a bit crap because of it.

Please no Dinobots (sorry Kess)

Dinobots would rock. Just as long as it was not the cartoon version. Gimme them as they were when Rachet had to find and use them to fight Megatron in the very early days of the comic back in the 80's.

Anakin.S

Kess73 wrote: »

Dinobots would rock. Just as long as it was not the cartoon version. Gimme them as they were when Rachet had to find and use them to fight Megatron in the very early days of the comic back in the 80's.

All I remember is the cartoon, I'll have to look out for the old comic online.

fluke

LZ5by5 wrote: »

God I hate that Hangover guy. Thought the last one would have been good had they cut out about 40 mins of needless explosions and running in the desert.

I think that no matter how Bay might cut that film that it would still amount to a piece of crap!

Transformers 3 should kill off most of the autobots, shia, megan and the army dudes...and have it as a character piece with Optimus on the run...

C'mon... a character piece where the character you root for is a robot that turns into a truck?! How awesome would that be?

johnny_ultimate

The only way I'll go to see another Transformers film is if they get another director in. I've been duped out of my money twice with Bay crap at this point (in fairness, the only reason I watched RotF was because it was the only thing in English :pac:). If they got a more talented (or even less bad) director in I'd give it another chance, as there will always be a place in cinema for giant robots beating the crap out of each other. No matter what they add to Transformers 3 though, I will (try) and refuse to watch it, as I genuinely feel Michael Bay does not deserve any support whatsoever. I don't fancy another slapstick comedy with obnoxious conservative politics.

Meanwhile, I shall just wait until Evangelion 3.0 for my giant robot fix. Evangelion 2.0 is how you make a film about giant robots. Michael Bay should totally take notes (except for the sexualisation - Transformers has enough of that already!)

sprinkles

I actually watched Transformers 2 the other night for the first time since seeing it in the cinema. There were so many scenes that were utterly pointless. I was watching it with 2 friends of mine that loved it and I pointed out 2 things to them which, thankfully, helped change their minds about it;

1. Bay uses cheap tricks to make shots look "cool". Everything (!!!) is shot with at least one of the following tricks; the sun behind the subject giving some great lens flair, slow motion or planning from either a high or a low vantage point. For instance look at how Shia gets out of Bumblebee. The camera is down low, shooting upwards, pans around slightly to get the sun over his shoulder. Hmmm now where did I see that before. Oh yeah, 2 minutes ago (and in Bad Boys, Bad Boys 2, Armageddon etc). And the slow motion Army walk out onto the airstrip.... familiar? Seriously Bay, you need to grow up!!

2. Far too many pointless, and I really mean pointless, scenes. One in particular was when Shia et al were crossing from Jordan into Egypt (despite already being in Egypt in the previous scene!?). Anyway, the scene at the checkpoint is the one I'm talking about. Took about 4 minutes and literally did nothing for the story. It wasn't even funny, which is what I think he was going for here.

All in all Bay should have left at least an hour on the cutting room floor. [/rant]

back to topic (sorry!)

Patrick Dempsey is a good choice for a dark role imo. He really needs to diversify his roles anyway and I think it will prove a very good choice for him - provided the script is good! I have to say the cast is shaping up pretty nicely. I just have absolutely no hope for the script or the director - it's a shame that Spielberg is connected with this and yet doesn't seem to be influencing it in any way.

Paleface

sprinkles wrote: »

I actually watched Transformers 2 the other night for the first time since seeing it in the cinema. There were so many scenes that were utterly pointless. I was watching it with 2 friends of mine that loved it and I pointed out 2 things to them which, thankfully, helped change their minds about it;

1. Bay uses cheap tricks to make shots look "cool". Everything (!!!) is shot with at least one of the following tricks; the sun behind the subject giving some great lens flair, slow motion or planning from either a high or a low vantage point. For instance look at how Shia gets out of Bumblebee. The camera is down low, shooting upwards, pans around slightly to get the sun over his shoulder. Hmmm now where did I see that before. Oh yeah, 2 minutes ago (and in Bad Boys, Bad Boys 2, Armageddon etc). And the slow motion Army walk out onto the airstrip.... familiar? Seriously Bay, you need to grow up!!

2. Far too many pointless, and I really mean pointless, scenes. One in particular was when Shia et al were crossing from Jordan into Egypt (despite already being in Egypt in the previous scene!?). Anyway, the scene at the checkpoint is the one I'm talking about. Took about 4 minutes and literally did nothing for the story. It wasn't even funny, which is what I think he was going for here.

All in all Bay should have left at least an hour on the cutting room floor. [/rant]

back to topic (sorry!)

Michael Bay is the reason why all Transformer movies past and future are dire to anyone who looks at them critically. He's all style and no substance.

Galvasean

sprinkles wrote: »

1. Bay uses cheap tricks to make shots look "cool". Everything (!!!) is shot with at least one of the following tricks; the sun behind the subject giving some great lens flair, slow motion or planning from either a high or a low vantage point. For instance look at how Shia gets out of Bumblebee. The camera is down low, shooting upwards, pans around slightly to get the sun over his shoulder. Hmmm now where did I see that before. Oh yeah, 2 minutes ago (and in Bad Boys, Bad Boys 2, Armageddon etc). And the slow motion Army walk out onto the airstrip.... familiar? Seriously Bay, you need to grow up!!

I'm actually a big fan of the Bay esque 'money shots'. It's basically eye candy for a blockbuster which does more good than harm IMO.

2. Far too many pointless, and I really mean pointless, scenes. One in particular was when Shia et al were crossing from Jordan into Egypt (despite already being in Egypt in the previous scene!?). Anyway, the scene at the checkpoint is the one I'm talking about. Took about 4 minutes and literally did nothing for the story. It wasn't even funny, which is what I think he was going for here.

This I agree with. There were also scenes that dragged out too long. For examople the bit where Sam's Mom buys the hash cookies. It would have been a funny little joke had it not turned into a big scene of her acting all crazy on campus making an ass of herself (and the film). Another example was the scene where the Decepticons are interrogating Sam. Did we really need to see him making googly faces while a robotic starfish crawled around inside his nose? I know a lotyof people laughed at this point, but it felt like forced humour to me.

All in all Bay should have left at least an hour on the cutting room floor.

I stand by what I've always said on this, in that there was a great 'brain at the door' action blockbuster here if tehy had only cutabout 40 odd minutes of excess fluff from the film. If I had the time/energy I'd make that cut myself (but I dont, so nobody get their hopes up).

Galvasean

Shia Lebouff on the disappointment of Tf2 and what to expect from #3:

Shia LaBeouf told The Associated Press that Transformers 3 "brings the heart back to the franchise." He starts working on the third installment on Tuesday.

The new script restores a human element that got lost in the second movie, LaBeouf said. "When I saw the second movie, I wasn't impressed with what we did," LaBeouf said at the Cannes Film Festival. "There were some really wild stunts in it, but the heart was gone."

Michael Bay returns for the third time as director of the science-fiction franchise, which centers on dueling races of giant robots that bring their war to Earth. The next movie will have what the last one lacked - a sense of human consequences, LaBeouf said.

On the second movie, "we got lost. We tried to get bigger. It's what happens to sequels. It's like, how do you top the first one? You've got to go bigger," LaBeouf said. "Mike went so big that it became too big, and I think you lost the anchor of the movie. ... You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other."

With "Transformers 3," the toll of the robot war will be grave for our planet, LaBeouf said.

"There's going to be a lot of death, human death. This time, they're targeting humans," LaBeouf said. "It's going to be the craziest action movie ever made, or we failed."

Transformers 3 is coming to theaters on July 1, 2011.

missingtime

I hate you Shia LaBeouf.

sprinkles

Galvasean wrote: »

Shia Lebouff on the disappointment of Tf2 and what to expect from #3:

You lost a bit of the relationships. Unless you have those relationships, then the movie doesn't matter. Then it's just a bunch of robots fighting each other."

Problem is I just don't care about any of the characters anymore. What little sentiment I had for them in the first movie was completely wiped out in the second. Also can Bay do character based movies....?

At this stage I think Transformers should be "just a bunch of robots fighting each other", imo it's the botched, poorly written father-son, mother-son, boyfriend-girlfriend, best friends relationships that were over emphasised with cringe-worthy, emotionally void scenes shoe horned into a film which is essentially about blowing stuff up. Would anyone be sad if any of the Human characters actually died in it?

Antar Bolaeisk

I'd probably give a little cheer if the annoying mother was squished.

Galvasean

sprinkles wrote: »

Would anyone be sad if any of the Human characters actually died in it?

Nope. There have been big hints of human killing for #3, but I'm not holding my breath.

Handsome Bob

Maybe the dad as an outside possibility, but I don't think Bay would sully his toy show too much by killing off Fox or Lebeouf.

johnny_ultimate

Antar Bolaeisk wrote: »

I'd probably give a little cheer if the annoying mother was squished.

In fitting with the tone of the film, I think she should start a fight with a Decepticon after accidentally consuming a 'special' brownie. She is then blown up. This would be a fitting conclusion to her narrative arc.