07 Volvo S40 1.6d

Nedved85

Hi there, im on the lookout for a new car (1.6 diesel), and this caught my eye

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S40/S40-1.6-/201011197299675/advert?channel=CARS

Mileage is a bit high and i am being asked for €6750 + my 05 Astra 4dr Life for it,

I was hoping to get it for €6k + my Astra,

I havent taken a test drive yet and have only haggled the sales man down from an oroginal 7k + astra to 6750 + astra,

Anything i should lookout for, timing belt change due? etc

Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help.

Hellrazer

DPF fluid needs refilling every 80k or so and if its not changed it will do the DPF in (kinda equivalent to a cat in a petrol)

In the last 2 months Ive sold 2 DPF`s for the 1.6d @ €617.09 + vat + labour because the owners ignored the warning on the dash that the DPF needed a service.

Last year I sold 4.


Other than that a great car that I cant fault.

keithclancy

Nedved85 wrote: »

Hi there, im on the lookout for a new car (1.6 diesel), and this caught my eye

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Volvo/S40/S40-1.6-/201011197299675/advert?channel=CARS

Mileage is a bit high and i am being asked for €6750 + my 05 Astra 4dr Life for it,

I was hoping to get it for €6k + my Astra,

I havent taken a test drive yet and have only haggled the sales man down from an oroginal 7k + astra to 6750 + astra,

Anything i should lookout for, timing belt change due? etc

Any thoughts?

Thanks for the help.

Timing belt interval is nuts ... 240,000 km or 7 years .. whichever is sooner.

I'll be changing mine at 200,000 I just dont trust these manufacturers !

Grand car though.. make sure you get it with the Performance Audio option and Aux input..

Nedved85

Thanks for that.. Ill have to ask them about that... im guessing they are going to say yes it was refilled once, how do i go about getting that confirmed/written down when buying?

Basically if he says, yes it was refilled after 80k and infact it wasnt... my new car then needs 700euro spent on it because of their lie if worse comes to worst?

All if/buts i know but im sure it has happened!

keithclancy

Nedved85 wrote: »

Thanks for that.. Ill have to ask them about that... im guessing they are going to say yes it was refilled once, how do i go about getting that confirmed/written down when buying?

Basically if he says, yes it was refilled after 80k and infact it wasnt... my new car then needs 700euro spent on it because of their lie if worse comes to worst?

All if/buts i know but im sure it has happened!

It'll be indicated in the Service Manual.

Hellrazer

Nedved85 wrote: »

Thanks for that.. Ill have to ask them about that... im guessing they are going to say yes it was refilled once, how do i go about getting that confirmed/written down when buying?

Check the dash for any warning messages.Diesel fuel service is the message as far as I can remember.

Basically if he says, yes it was refilled after 80k and infact it wasnt... my new car then needs 700euro spent on it because of their lie if worse comes to worst?

It would only need the 700+ euros if you ignored the message when it comes up on the dash.And honestly its not that big a job to do the refill yourself.The kit is about 120 and takes about 30 mins--you would need to get the light reset though.

Nedved85

Thanks for this help lads! Much appreciated!

mcshape

Have to get my bit in.... Sorry for the volvo fans, Im in an 06 1.6D at the moment and its been up on blocks every 10,000KM, I have the car 3.5 years and its spent at least 2 months of that in the garage, Constant DPF and sensor issues, Been towed home at least 5 times, and the timing belt pre-tensioner shattered at 60,000km for which it spent 3 weeks in a garage, Wiring loom needed replacement after 1 year, The car thought it was minus 30 outside constantly so the climate control tried to save my life by making it like the behamas inside constantly, Ignition replaced twice, Scotia alloy wheels corroded beyond recognition after year 2, It EATS lightbulbs, For an eco engine i get a MAX of 650km per fill, Comfy car with nice spec but ill never touch another again

Hellrazer

mcshape wrote: »

Have to get my bit in.... Sorry for the volvo fans, Im in an 06 1.6D at the moment and its been up on blocks every 10,000KM, I have the car 3.5 years and its spent at least 2 months of that in the garage, Constant DPF and sensor issues, Been towed home at least 5 times, and the timing belt pre-tensioner shattered at 60,000km for which it spent 3 weeks in a garage, Wiring loom needed replacement after 1 year, The car thought it was minus 30 outside constantly so the climate control tried to save my life by making it like the behamas inside constantly, Ignition replaced twice, Scotia alloy wheels corroded beyond recognition after year 2, It EATS lightbulbs, For an eco engine i get a MAX of 650km per fill, Comfy car with nice spec but ill never touch another again

I love the way people say their car has been "on blocks" every 10k.

The dpf problems Ive outlined above--The warning must be acted on asap.

Ive never ever heard of the timing belt tensioner shattering--as for it being in a workshop for 3 weeks--you really need to change whos looking after the car--The part is available and would be with any Volvo dealer the next morning--sounds like someones telling porkies even if it did damage the something else in the engine all the parts arrive the next morning either from the UK or Sweden.

If your talking about the door wiring loom--that was an issue with certain VIN numbers and was a 15-20 minute job unless the customer "again" ignored a letter from Volvo and the loom sheared completely.

I agree that those Scotia alloys were crap--They should never have been supplied in a country as wet as ours.
Id also agree that the ignition gave problems on the first of them--Remedied since 06/07 now though.

Ive never heard of the climate control problem either--sounds like a faulty outside temperature sensor which Ive only ever replaced when the mirror got a smack and damaged the sensor inside it.

They do eat H7`s alright--get your dealer to turn off the daytime running lights and that`ll solve your problem.

Nedved85

Hellrazer wrote: »

I love the way people say their car has been "on blocks" every 10k.

The dpf problems Ive outlined above--The warning must be acted on asap.

Ive never ever heard of the timing belt tensioner shattering--as for it being in a workshop for 3 weeks--you really need to change whos looking after the car--The part is available and would be with any Volvo dealer the next morning--sounds like someones telling porkies even if it did damage the something else in the engine all the parts arrive the next morning either from the UK or Sweden.

If your talking about the door wiring loom--that was an issue with certain VIN numbers and was a 15-20 minute job unless the customer "again" ignored a letter from Volvo and the loom sheared completely.

I agree that those Scotia alloys were crap--They should never have been supplied in a country as wet as ours.
Id also agree that the ignition gave problems on the first of them--Remedied since 06/07 now though.

Ive never heard of the climate control problem either--sounds like a faulty outside temperature sensor which Ive only ever replaced when the mirror got a smack and damaged the sensor inside it.

They do eat H7`s alright--get your dealer to turn off the daytime running lights and that`ll solve your problem.

I think the alloys on the car im looking at are scotia?

See here:

http://www.volvocars.com/us/all-cars/volvo-s40/details/Pages/accessories.aspx?category=91d11e8b-c33a-4f6b-8fa3-898af987e627

This gonna be a problem? They looked ok on inspection.

Hellrazer

Nedved85 wrote: »

I think the alloys on the car im looking at are scotia?

See here:

http://www.volvocars.com/us/all-cars/volvo-s40/details/Pages/accessories.aspx?category=91d11e8b-c33a-4f6b-8fa3-898af987e627

This gonna be a problem? They looked ok on inspection.

Theres 2 types of Scotia wheels--one is the normal alloy colour and the other is chromed--Its the chromed ones that end up in bits from the road grit/salt etc.

VolvoMan

One thing I'll say is that all the alloys on S40/V50's look rubbish and of cheap quality.

mcshape

Hellrazer wrote: »

I love the way people say their car has been "on blocks" every 10k..

Seriously, Mine has!

The dpf problems Ive outlined above--The warning must be acted on asap.

No warning, Ever! Thats the problem i had, car would go to limp home mode or run like a dog, or just DIE and i do a lot of motorway driving

Ive never ever heard of the timing belt tensioner shattering--as for it being in a workshop for 3 weeks--you really need to change whos looking after the car--The part is available and would be with any Volvo dealer the next morning--sounds like someones telling porkies even if it did damage the something else in the engine all the parts arrive the next morning either from the UK or Sweden.

Volvo main dealer, what happened was i brought it to a regular garage for a service, they range me an hour later and told me the engine sounded like it had "a bag of spanners loose in it" and they wouldnt touch it, it had to go to volvo, It then spent the rest of the time in the volvo dealer getting fixed

If your talking about the door wiring loom--that was an issue with certain VIN numbers and was a 15-20 minute job unless the customer "again" ignored a letter from Volvo and the loom sheared completely.

Ah, Yes, IF i got the letter, However its a company car and the leasing company would have recieved the letter, and they certainly didnt tell me if they did

I agree that those Scotia alloys were crap--They should never have been supplied in a country as wet as ours.
Id also agree that the ignition gave problems on the first of them--Remedied since 06/07 now though.

Yep, It did, had it replaced

Ive never heard of the climate control problem either--sounds like a faulty outside temperature sensor which Ive only ever replaced when the mirror got a smack and damaged the sensor inside it.

Mirror never smacked, In fact the cars immaculate, The temperature sensor is one of the most common symtoms of the wiring loom issue

They do eat H7`s alright--get your dealer to turn off the daytime running lights and that`ll solve your problem.[/QUOTE]

mcshape

Nedved85 wrote: »

I think the alloys on the car im looking at are scotia?

See here:

http://www.volvocars.com/us/all-cars/volvo-s40/details/Pages/accessories.aspx?category=91d11e8b-c33a-4f6b-8fa3-898af987e627

This gonna be a problem? They looked ok on inspection.

If they look ok on an 07 now 3 years later they should be fine, Mine were in bits after a year

Hellrazer wrote: »

Theres 2 types of Scotia wheels--one is the normal alloy colour and the other is chromed--Its the chromed ones that end up in bits from the road grit/salt etc.

The polished one's are the ones that have the issues

VolvoMan wrote: »

One thing I'll say is that all the alloys on S40/V50's look rubbish and of cheap quality.

Yep they are!

Nedved85

Anyone know what bhp 1.6d S40s are generally? I forgot to ask the dealer earlier.

Ive been told id need at least 110 BHP for a bit of oomph, so the car wont be dead on the road.

mcshape

Nedved85 wrote: »

Anyone know what bhp 1.6d S40s are generally? I forgot to ask the dealer earlier.

Ive been told id need at least 110 BHP for a bit of oomph, so the car wont be dead on the road.

when i got mine they were listed as 109, Nowadays they are 110


Look dont take my rant earlier as gospel, i just got a lemming, but they are a really comfy nice car when they run well and a good spec in the SE, Dont be expecting a lot of boot space though!

bazz26

The 1.6d is the same unit found in the Ford Focus and various Peugeot/Citroen and Mazda models. The version in the S40 is the 110bhp and has a Ford turbo charger rather than the one found in the Peugeot/Citroen models.

I have one myself and trust me between the weight of the S40 and whatever way Volvo set up the gearing don't expect it to burn rubber on the road. Expect a range of close to 1000km from a full tank of diesel though.

VolvoMan

bazz26 wrote: »

I have one myself and trust me between the weight of the S40 and whatever way Volvo set up the gearing don't expect it to burn rubber on the road. Expect a range of close to 1000km from a full tank of diesel though.

It apparently does good service in the S80 and V70 DRIVe though and is supposed to be geared better.

Nedved85

Bought the car,

All is fine,

Only got one key though, which i was aware of before i bough but happy enough to accept.

How much roughly would it cost to get a second one made up by a Volvo dealer? Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

bazz26

Nedved85 wrote: »

Bought the car,

All is fine,

Only got one key though, which i was aware of before i bough but happy enough to accept.

How much roughly would it cost to get a second one made up by a Volvo dealer? Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

Hellrazer can confirm but I think a replacement key costs over €200. I think the dealer has to reprogram both the new and existing key.

I'd be expecting the dealer selling the car to provide the second key to be honest.

Hellrazer

Bazz is right--Around the 230 mark including programming.

Pop me a pm and I`ll see what I can do for you Nedved.

mrboswell

Sorry for hijacking the thread but while on the S40 what are the 04-06 1.8 petrol like? (new model)

Hellrazer - sounds like you know your stuff - anything I should look out for?
Is servicing expensive?

Many thanks

Hellrazer

mrboswell wrote: »

Sorry for hijacking the thread but while on the S40 what are the 04-06 1.8 petrol like? (new model)

Hellrazer - sounds like you know your stuff - anything I should look out for?
Is servicing expensive?

Many thanks

Only problem they give is the Hydraulic control unit.

€912.15 + vat and labour but if you kick up a fuss you`ll more than likely get it under warranty(usually on a 50/50 split if its out a few years) since its a known issue.Most models affected were 05/06`s 1.8s.

R.O.R

Hellrazer wrote: »

Only problem they give is the Hydraulic control unit.

€912.15 + vat and labour but if you kick up a fuss you`ll more than likely get it under warranty(usually on a 50/50 split if its out a few years) since its a known issue.Most models affected were 05/06`s 1.8s.

That's nothing to do with hard starting is it? Only issue we have had with the Wife's car is it sometimes struggles to start. Will turn over no problem but doesn't catch.

Hellrazer

R.O.R wrote: »

That's nothing to do with hard starting is it? Only issue we have had with the Wife's car is it sometimes struggles to start. Will turn over no problem but doesn't catch.

Starter(ignition) switch more than likely--What year is it??

€141.14 + vat and labour.Bit of pain to do since half the dash has to come out.

R.O.R

Hellrazer wrote: »

Starter(ignition) switch more than likely--What year is it??

€141.14 + vat and labour.Bit of pain to do since half the dash has to come out.

Early 2005 V50 (originally and 2nd hand supplied by you guys). Was happening regulally, then on Saturday a couple of weeks ago, it just wouldn't start at all - battery totally dead. Jumped it and had no starting problems again for a couple of weeks, but starting to have a problem again.

mrboswell

Hellrazer wrote: »

Only problem they give is the Hydraulic control unit.

€912.15 + vat and labour but if you kick up a fuss you`ll more than likely get it under warranty(usually on a 50/50 split if its out a few years) since its a known issue.Most models affected were 05/06`s 1.8s.

Thanks for that Hellrazer. Thats for the ABS isn't it? Any idea at what mileage they tend to go at?

On another note do all the brushed aluminum hans rests beside the drivers elec controls dint - looks horrible.

Was just out having a look at a few and they are a tidy motor.

R.O.R wrote: »

Early 2005 V50 (originally and 2nd hand supplied by you guys). Was happening regulally, then on Saturday a couple of weeks ago, it just wouldn't start at all - battery totally dead. Jumped it and had no starting problems again for a couple of weeks, but starting to have a problem again.

That sounds like the alternator to me... but I wouldn't put my house on it!

R.O.R

mrboswell wrote: »

Thanks for that Hellrazer. Thats for the ABS isn't it? Any idea at what mileage they tend to go at?

On another note do all the brushed aluminum hans rests beside the drivers elec controls dint - looks horrible.

I've never noticed it on other S40's as most of the ones we have on fleet have the wood, but the wife's car is fairly badly pitted there. I thought it was probably the previous driver tapping her engagement ring off the alu.

mrboswell wrote: »

That sounds like the alternator to me... but I wouldn't put my house on it!

Thanks - I'll keep an eye on it and hopefully it won't let her down in the middle of nowhere. Apart from that we've had no issues at all in around 75,000km and 3 years. Headlight bulbs blow more frequently than anything else, so stock up on H7's. Changing them is a 5 minute job for yourself, and soooo much easier than any others I've done recently.

Hellrazer

mrboswell wrote: »

Thanks for that Hellrazer. Thats for the ABS isn't it? Any idea at what mileage they tend to go at?

No particular mileage--Put it this way I had a brand new C30 (same car basically) that wasnt even registered with this unit gone in it.It had been lying up for over 6 months.

On another note do all the brushed aluminum hans rests beside the drivers elec controls dint - looks horrible.

Im lost with that one ^^^^ :D:D:D

That sounds like the alternator to me... but I wouldn't put my house on it!

More than likely if its had to be jumped a few times.€350-450 depending on the ampage--3 types 80a,120a or 150a--Its wrote on the sticker and would you believe that all that goes in them is a diode that costs 20 cent in Maplins--if you can get them that it is.Theres a polish lad that used to work here used to resolder a new diode into them and use them for his own nixers-alternator is like new after its fitted.

mrboswell

Sorry do you mean it took 6 months to find the problem as it didn't register?

The panel around the drivers window switches is either wood look or aluminum and on all the aluminum ones I've seen something link a watch, ring or cufflinks mark it with loads of dimples

Hellrazer

mrboswell wrote: »

Sorry do you mean it took 6 months to find the problem as it didn't register?

No the car was brand new with maybe 10 kilometers on the clock and the fault was there.So its not limited to mileage.

The panel around the drivers window switches is either wood look or aluminum and on all the aluminum ones I've seen something link a watch, ring or cufflinks mark it with loads of dimples

Seen that alright-you can buy replacements kits but theyre nuts money..€450 + vat.

EPM

I know someone who got a sticker company to do up a silver sticker for over the drivers side grab handle...

Quinnie

Has anybody had problems with the cd player? mine keeps freezing after a few tracks!! Display reads "disc error" or " disc unreadable" .
reported it at the garage a few times but no solution was found!

mcshape

Quinnie wrote: »

Has anybody had problems with the cd player? mine keeps freezing after a few tracks!! Display reads "disc error" or " disc unreadable" .
reported it at the garage a few times but no solution was found!

Only with really bad quality CD-R's, and only happened to me once mabye twice, Is it origionals or backup copies you have issues with?

Hellrazer

Quinnie wrote: »

Has anybody had problems with the cd player? mine keeps freezing after a few tracks!! Display reads "disc error" or " disc unreadable" .
reported it at the garage a few times but no solution was found!

No not really--Ive sold a few CD players but 9 out of 10 times thats because the owners kids had stuck things into them

One car we recovered 10 euros in coins out of--cost the owner 600 quid for a new unit.

bazz26

Quinnie wrote: »

Has anybody had problems with the cd player? mine keeps freezing after a few tracks!! Display reads "disc error" or " disc unreadable" .
reported it at the garage a few times but no solution was found!

If they are recordable cds then the problem is the speed at which you are burning the tracks onto the cd. I burn my own music and had the same problem, after trying different burning software I eventually tried burning the cd at the lowest possible speed. I've had no issues since then.

Quinnie

Thanks for the replies.
No, the cds are all originals. Previously, it might play the whole cd, but recently, after one or two tracks the player freezes. I can use the radio though. When I explained the problem while the car was being serviced they did a software upgrade but this has not helped. The cds also get very hot.

mrboswell

Hellrazer wrote: »

Seen that alright-you can buy replacements kits but theyre nuts money..€450 + vat.

What's the official name for the replacement part?

Hellrazer

mrboswell wrote: »

What's the official name for the replacement part?

Here you go and a list of part numbers for you.Dont even ask about prices for the "real wood" ones :D

Kits are available for three locations in the car:


Panel, Centre console
S40, V50 Aluminium 30755 115
S40, V50 Wood Effect 30755 116
S40, V50 Virtual White 30766 447
S40, V50 Nordic Light Oak (real wood) 30791 727
S40, V50 Oyster Burst 8648 784
S40, V50 Aluminium (bright aluminium) 1281 842

Panel, Tunnel console, 08-

S40, V50 Aluminium 30791 730
S40, V50 Virtual White 30791 728
S40, V50 Nordic Light Oak (real wood) 30756 870
S40, V50 Oyster Burst 1281 970
S40, V50 Aluminium (bright aluminium) 8648 785

Panel, Doors
S40, V50 Aluminium 1303 704
S40, V50 Wood Effect 8698 531
S40, V50 Virtual White 30761 361
S40, V50 Nordic Light Oak (real wood) 30761 362
S40, V50 Oyster Burst 1284 684
S40, V50 Aluminium (bright aluminium) 1287 551

mrboswell

Many thanks.

uustuner

hi guys, i have 07 volvo s40 1.6 D with 17" scotia alloys. they are corroded after 2 years of guarantee. volvo don't wanna involve in this. is there anyone here experienced small claims court for the corrosions on alloys?

mcshape

mcshape wrote: »

Have to get my bit in.... Sorry for the volvo fans, Im in an 06 1.6D at the moment and its been up on blocks every 10,000KM, I have the car 3.5 years and its spent at least 2 months of that in the garage, Constant DPF and sensor issues, Been towed home at least 5 times, and the timing belt pre-tensioner shattered at 60,000km for which it spent 3 weeks in a garage, Wiring loom needed replacement after 1 year, The car thought it was minus 30 outside constantly so the climate control tried to save my life by making it like the behamas inside constantly, Ignition replaced twice, Scotia alloy wheels corroded beyond recognition after year 2, It EATS lightbulbs, For an eco engine i get a MAX of 650km per fill, Comfy car with nice spec but ill never touch another again

Just an update for anyone who is interested, I had to get a new Turbo 2 weeks ago, and last weke the engine managment light came on again and was running very rough, brought into garage again and the tensioner for the timing belt was gone again...

Hellrazer

mcshape wrote: »

Just an update for anyone who is interested, I had to get a new Turbo 2 weeks ago, and last weke the engine managment light came on again and was running very rough, brought into garage again and the tensioner for the timing belt was gone again...

Is this a main dealer?Either way Id consider going elsewhere.Never seen any problems with the timing belts on these.Sounds to me like theyre missing something somewhere.

mcshape

Hellrazer wrote: »

Is this a main dealer?Either way Id consider going elsewhere.Never seen any problems with the timing belts on these.Sounds to me like theyre missing something somewhere.

I agree, there is no way 2 would go in one year, and te turbo as well, FFS!
The frst "pre tensioner" issue swas dealt with by a main dealer in west dublin, Not goi ng to mention any names but i thi nk you know hellrazer

Hellrazer

Pm me your reg and Ill check for outstanding recalls.Maybe theyve missed one and thats the reason the belt went a second time.Something rings a bell about a fan belt tensioner recall that was breaking the fan belt and making it hit the timing belt--Im starting to wonder if it was ever carried out.

Mind you that could be on the 1.8 petrols.Your reg will tell me.

gibbon75

Hellrazer wrote: »

Mind you that could be on the 1.8 petrols.Your reg will tell me.

1.8 petrols indeed

Panda Moanium

Has anyone had their Scotia alloys re-chromed / polished and if so what sort of money does it cost, and, has the corrosion reappeared?

Mine are an absolute mess but I can't decide whether it is worth trying to fix them or just go for new wheels.

robbie_998

whats the 2005 s40 2.0 SE Diesel like ?

Henry Ford III

Nedved85 wrote: »

Bought the car,

All is fine,

Only got one key though, which i was aware of before i bough but happy enough to accept.

How much roughly would it cost to get a second one made up by a Volvo dealer? Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

What would happen if the 2nd original key got into the hands of a thief?

Quinnie

robbie_998 wrote: »

whats the 2005 s40 2.0 SE Diesel like ?

Mine is 2006. 1.6 SE. Very happy with it.

De Bhál

I bought one of these 2nd hand a couple of weeks ago. I've never had a diesel before.
There seems to be a bit of a rattle coming from the front of the car drivers side from either the engine or wheels area. It's hard to describe but seems to occur in the higher speeds (>30kph) . I can't hear it when the car isn't moving.

I was wondering is this a normal diesel engine sound.
Obviously I'll bring it back to the garage to see what they say but was just wondering has any one on here had this issue.