RTE HD

SK1979

Hey guys

Is there any information about when (or if) RTE will start putting out programmes in HD?

Is this something thats likely to happen?

Cheers.

Round Cable

In January 2008, I was told of a launch on Sky, UPC, and DTT (when rolled out) in mid-2009 subject to certain conditions. I'd say that the lack of money has pushed this date well back.

SK1979

Yeh, was kinda thinking that a lack of money might be one of the issues that RTE would have at the moment. Its a pity cos I'd love to be able to watch the World Cup in HD on an Irish channel.

Hogzy

SK1979 wrote: »

Yeh, was kinda thinking that a lack of money might be one of the issues that RTE would have at the moment. Its a pity cos I'd love to be able to watch the World Cup in HD on an Irish channel.

Or have the ability to record 6 nations in HD, Hate the way you cant record BBC HD on Sky, I dunno why its not in the EPG, Wrecks my head

high heels

about 5 years.. Thats how long it took us to take up widescreen... SO it should be about the same time frame

An Tarbh

high heels wrote: »

about 5 years.. Thats how long it took us to take up widescreen... SO it should be about the same time frame

so maybe next year then since Sky started broadcasting in 2006 :rolleyes:

Given that RTÉ were host broadcaster for the Ireland home 6N matches they should have used that as a test event and continued on with the World Cup and the Championship, they've missed an ideal opportunity.

I just feel it's a case of RTÉ being penny wise and pound foolish by not upgrading to HD.

Elmo

An Tarbh wrote: »

so maybe next year then since Sky started broadcasting in 2006 :rolleyes:

Given that RTÉ were host broadcaster for the Ireland home 6N matches they should have used that as a test event and continued on with the World Cup and the Championship, they've missed an ideal opportunity.

I just feel it's a case of RTÉ being penny wise and pound foolish by not upgrading to HD.

Weren't the BBC the home broadcaster for the 6N's. In Ireland.

They could easily provide their foreign sports* through HD since they possibly have a feed to it.


*By that I mean sports being broadcast from other nations :rolleyes:

An Tarbh

no it was RTÉ who were host broadcasters. It was part of the new deal from this season onwards that they'd be host broadcasters for Ireland home games, BBC had been since 2003.

mrdtv2010

Twelve years after the launch of an operational DTT service in Ireland given their previous invidious track record is more likely!

Elmo

mrdtv2010 wrote: »

Twelve years after the launch of an operational DTT service in Ireland given their previous invidious track record is more likely!

You never know TV3 HD might happen before that.

Pangea

Elmo wrote: »

You never know TV3 HD might happen before that.

Its bad enough in SD never mind HD :P

Koloman

Pangea wrote: »

Its bad enough in SD never mind HD :P

I can't wait to see Vincent Browne in full HD!

Sam Russell

Koloman wrote: »

I can't wait to see Vincent Browne in full HD!

It would be nice to see him in SD, instead of through a haze, (well, not really). And why does he not wear glasses if he cannot read the autocue? And why do I watch the programme. COLOR=DarkOliveGreen][I]Note to self: Must go down the pub more![/I][/COLOR

Vanity, vanity, all is vanity.

When are TV3 going widescreen, never mind HD?

Minstrel27

Sam Russell wrote: »

When are TV3 going widescreen, never mind HD?

?? They have gone widescreen.

Pat Gleeson

Minstrel27 wrote: »

?? They have gone widescreen.

I think Sam is referring to TV3's own productions, which are almost all 4:3

rabbitsears

And shot through a gauze stretched over the camera lens. TV3 picture quality on satellite is appalling, but then again so too are the other Irish channels. Can someone tell RTE etc that 544 X 576 is not even SD. 405 line pictures were frankly better!

And as for 3e, its obvious TV3 cannot be arsed to provide proper widescreen switching. Obviously they assume the viewers wont notice...

Sam Russell

Pat Gleeson wrote: »

I think Sam is referring to TV3's own productions, which are almost all 4:3

RTENL before they zapped them labelled it as 4:3, so we know where they stand.

I think you are being very generous in refering to them as productions. I think that if media students produced them as course work they would get a big fat F or even a NG. They have apalling production values for in-house stuff. They think that zoom and focus are there to add ART and ATMOSPHERE, and that editing is for wimps. The more jerks in the film the more it disguises the jerks in shot.

I hate to think what these bozos would manage with HD, or worse, 3D.

Minstrel27

Sam Russell wrote: »

RTENL before they zapped them labelled it as 4:3, so we know where they stand.

RTÉNL are testing so what they call it means nothing.

Elmo

Sam Russell wrote: »

I hate to think what these bozos would manage with HD, or worse, 3D.

Ireland AM in 3D, obviously that is where the zoom and focus are, not ART :rolleyes:

RTÉNL are testing so what they call it means nothing.

It is strange that they put up TV3 4:3 on the EPG. But they keep missing the É on RT1.

Minstrel27

Elmo wrote: »

It is strange that they put up TV3 4:3 on the EPG. But they keep missing the É on RT1.

It would be strange if it was a full operational service.

Elmo

Minstrel27 wrote: »

It would be strange if it was a full operational service.

It's a bit strange it isn't

But the question is: Are TV3 studio based productions in 4:3?

Pat Gleeson

Sam Russell wrote: »

I think you are being very generous in refering to them as productions.

OK then: "productions"

Kensington

Elmo wrote: »

It's a bit strange it isn't

But the question is: Are TV3 studio based productions in 4:3?

Vincent Browne was in widescreen for the first time a couple of nights back. Can't speak for anything else as that's about as far as my TV3 viewing goes :P

Elmo

Kensington wrote: »

Vincent Browne was in widescreen for the first time a couple of nights back.

Was it for the Dáil Live thing he does on Tuesdays?

fergalmj

More than likely after the whole of the rest of Europe has tried it and discovered that it hasn't really made a different and commence it's phasing out.

Isn't that how things usually progress in Ireland?

Minstrel27

fergalmj wrote: »

More than likely after the whole of the rest of Europe has tried it and discovered that it hasn't really made a different and commence it's phasing out.

Isn't that how things usually progress in Ireland?

RTÉ went widescreen before the most of Europe so your attempt at humour has fallen flat on its arse.

Sam Russell

fergalmj wrote: »

More than likely after the whole of the rest of Europe has tried it and discovered that it hasn't really made a different and commence it's phasing out.

Isn't that how things usually progress in Ireland?

Actualy RTE have been at the forefront of many innovations in TV. For example, the Riordans was shot on OB equipment, the first soap to do so. Also PAL-I is so called because it was used here first. I am sure many more firsts or early adoptions are in there as well.

No, it is our political bozos you should direct your remarks at - they are the ones who are the slow learners around here.

watty

Minstrel27 wrote: »

RTÉ went widescreen before the most of Europe so your attempt at humour has fallen flat on its arse.

Except it has cheated EVERYONE except pay TV subscribers as Analogue viewers now get a poorer picture and WS is lower horizontal resolution than 4:3 on SD digital

Widescreen should NEVER have been introduced anywhere on TV other than on HD. HD uses true WS. Ordinary Digital TV squeezes a poorer quality WS image into standard screen pixels. Then for Analogue resamples it and crops it.

Really stupid.

WS needs HD. In fact HD is WS only.

Minstrel27

watty wrote: »

Widescreen should NEVER have been introduced anywhere on TV other than on HD.

But it was to the enjoyment of some. We will all have to live with it.

STB

They did broadcast in HD in the past during the DCMNR trials using Tandberg HD encoders.

A lot of RTEs home produced content is recorded in HD anyhow AFAIK. All the live sport is shot in HD albeit broadcast in SD at the mo. But the gear is there (including the HD TX encoders presumably which they may have bought back in). I'm sure they have a sizable archive of HD content.

SuperInfinity

watty wrote: »

Except it has cheated EVERYONE except pay TV subscribers as Analogue viewers now get a poorer picture and WS is lower horizontal resolution than 4:3 on SD digital

Widescreen should NEVER have been introduced anywhere on TV other than on HD. HD uses true WS. Ordinary Digital TV squeezes a poorer quality WS image into standard screen pixels. Then for Analogue resamples it and crops it.

Really stupid.

WS needs HD. In fact HD is WS only.

Oh my god YES!!!!! What I have been saying for years.

It just goes to show how naive some people are and with enough marketing you can get people to buy into anything, no matter how stupid the idea is.

The entire idea of widescreen is SCREWED UP from the very beginning. On 4:3 you are losing pixels when they show it on widescreen, on widescreen you are losing the same amount of pixels for all of the thousands of programs that have a native 4:3 aspect ratio. The whole thing is madness.

It has been a pixel holocaust.

Movies are the only possible way you can gain pixels, because they don't have to have any/much black bars anymore if they're in widescreen. But it wouldn't work unless 1) *everyone* switched to widescreen and all programs were like that and 2) it wouldn't work anyway because practically every single show on television is in 4:3 and it is impossible to make them 16:9.

The only thing I can think of is that these people didn't watch enough Good Idea/Bad Idea episodes of Animaniacs when they were younger.

And that's not even getting into how ugly and potentially distracting the black bars are.

And as for 3e, sweet Jesus, god love 'em..... :rolleyes:

Minstrel27

SuperInfinity wrote: »

And that's not even getting into how ugly and potentially distracting the black bars are.

Oh no. The horrible black bars showing programming in the correct ratio. Ban them.

SuperInfinity

Minstrel27 wrote: »

Oh no. The horrible black bars showing programming in the correct ratio. Ban them.

Wow, you're *removing this word because I don't want to be banned again*.

Minstrel27

Personal insults because someone disagrees with you? How old are you?

SuperInfinity

Intentional trolling?

I like your technique.

Minstrel27

Ignore the question so. Also please refrain from posting abuse. It makes you look like a foolish individual.

icdg

SuperInfinity and Minstrel27, behave, or its bans for both of you.

Beamobhoy

watching a feed on 1w of the meath/offaly game at moment. Picture is better than actually on RTE - just wandering if we'll ever be able to get HD feeds of these games if they are being shot in HD??

rubensni

Real pity RTE haven't a HD channel ready for the world cup :mad:

Hogzy

rubensni wrote: »

Real pity RTE haven't a HD channel ready for the world cup :mad:

I wouldnt be too surprised if it was the same situation for the next world cup. Dont hold your breath...

STB

rubensni wrote: »

Real pity RTE haven't a HD channel ready for the world cup :mad:

738MHZ (it will change in other parts of the country) on DTT in Dublin has all the hallmarks of a HD test channel. But 2 and 2 might not add up to 4 though.

Minstrel27

There isn't enough space on that frequency for them to run HD video on that channel.

Kensington

Beamobhoy wrote: »

watching a feed on 1w of the meath/offaly game at moment. Picture is better than actually on RTE - just wandering if we'll ever be able to get HD feeds of these games if they are being shot in HD??

Probably not until someone will actually use the feed in HD.

Beamobhoy

Kensington wrote: »

Probably not until someone will actually use the feed in HD.

I'll gladly use it

Kensington

Beamobhoy wrote: »

I'll gladly use it

I'm sure Observe would happily sort ye out if the price was right :P

Tomk1

Couldn't RTE be internet-HD? many new TV's are internet-HD-TVs

Elmo

AFAIK RTÉ TWO HD will be available from Early 2011, however this might be push back to summer 2011. RTÉ TWO HD will be mainly about sports starting hopefully with the 6 Nations if not then it will be GAA coverage 2011.

Hogzy

Elmo wrote: »

AFAIK RTÉ TWO HD will be available from Early 2011, however this might be push back to summer 2011. RTÉ TWO HD will be mainly about sports starting hopefully with the 6 Nations if not then it will be GAA coverage 2011.

:eek:
Eh, Source?

Elmo

Hogzy wrote: »

:eek:
Eh, Source?

I really can't say. Things may change from now until 6 Nations 2011. As always its a case of wait and see.

Minstrel27

If that was to happen then I would prefer a RTÉ HD channel covering content from both RTÉ One and Two, until they can provide two seperate HD channels for RTÉ One and Two.

Elmo

Minstrel27 wrote: »

If that was to happen then I would prefer a RTÉ HD channel covering content from both RTÉ One and Two, until they can provide two seperate HD channels for RTÉ One and Two.

I would assume that they are concentrating on Sports in HD hence going with RTÉ Two rather than a separate service. From what I gather any new service provided by RTÉ will require it to be connected to all of the other aspects of the current broadcast services One and Two (which will be expensive), this is why RTÉ One +1 is something they want since it will purely just provide the same content one hour later. Anyway most know more about the technical aspects of DTT than I, so I am happy to trust everyone on technical aspects.