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New Presenter of Film 2011

  • 18-03-2010 3:10pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭


    Now that Wossy is hanging up his presenting boots who will take over from him on Film 2011? I think maybe Mark Kermode might be a good choice, what do you guys think?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭rednik


    +1. Have listened to Kermode on 5 live for long time and if anyone is deserving of the show it is him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,240 ✭✭✭bullpost


    Would he have the common touch or would he be too arty for a mainstream audience?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭SOD's Lovechild


    Kermode isn't remotely arty. He is a horror aficionado and prefers the American remake of Breathless to the Godard one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Mark Kermode is a good choice, I would love to see him get the job, but I think Bullpost has a point. I think Arty is one way to describe him.

    He is on the Culture show, definitely higher brow than film two thousand and whatever year has been, even during Barry Normans rein.

    He might be too honest in his opinions about mainstream blockbusters. I agree completely with him about his dislike of Pirates of the Caribbean, but is that what the BBC want for their flagship movie show?

    He also considered TV too trivial to watch, pompous in the extreme, even if true.

    Oh, and the Exorcist is sh*t.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    He might be too "full on" for the mainstream of BBC One, who these days are running scared of anything that resembles an opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,012 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭SOD's Lovechild


    I don't want to be like a dog with a bone here but can someone who is calling Kermode "arty" reference a review that shows it?

    It's just that my frame of reference is even more skewed than I thought it was if he is arty, to me he is the most mainstream of all the major critics in the UK and Ireland. He has never championed any film-maker who I would describe as arty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well define arty? Guillermo del Toro? Takashi Miike? Alfonso Cuaron? Pedro Almodóvar?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 52 ✭✭SOD's Lovechild


    I wouldn't consider any of those arty, three of those film-makers get releases in the multiplex. By arty I'm thinking more Tarr, Weerasethakul, Hou, Tsai, Desplechin, Denis etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,398 ✭✭✭✭Turtyturd


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Charlie Brooker :D

    First person that came to mind for me too and its easy to picture him doing it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    I wouldn't consider any of those arty, three of those film-makers get releases in the multiplex. By arty I'm thinking more Tarr, Weerasethakul, Hou, Tsai, Desplechin, Denis etc.

    They didn't pop out of the womb making films that get shown in multiplexes though. Kermode was championing them before the hits arrived. Anyway the whole point of Film XX is to provide casuals with an idea of whats on at the flicks, nothing more.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,241 ✭✭✭Sanjuro


    Brooker was my initial thought, but he himself put himself out of the running and proposed Kermode. And I cant really disagree with that thought. Kermode isn't for a second too arty. He just enjoys a lot of films the average cinema-goer wouldn't bother seeing. On the flip-side, he never stops banging on about Mama Mia and how enjoyable he finds it. So he can do both arty and mainstream.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    +1 for Charlie Brooker; he would certainly be honest & entertaining, but I doubt very much he would be able to swallow the kind of fawning interviews he'd be obliged to conduct with actors. Whatever else you think of Wossy, he knows how to handle the egos during the stage-managed interviews.

    Kermode's a good choice, though I think with his regular appearance on shows such as Newsnight review, he might be seen (justifiably or not) as something of a white-tower critic. He'd be my second preference anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,707 ✭✭✭MikeC101


    I'd love to see Brooker or Kermode doing it.

    I can't see the powers that be giving it to Brooker (maybe he wouldn't even be interested) though.

    I'd say Kermode has a good shot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,194 ✭✭✭✭Basq


    Please give it to Kermode..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,089 ✭✭✭✭rovert


    Lauren Laverne or James King


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,187 ✭✭✭keefg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    I like Kermode but don't know if he would be a good fit for Film 20XX. I think he is too good for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭livEwirE


    Gotta agree with keefg, Mariella is a good choice too, she's got the greatest voice on TV :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,364 ✭✭✭paddyismaddy


    Charlie Brooker would be a good choice or what about rossy's brother i cant think of his name


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,706 ✭✭✭✭Skerries




    so you used to wait up or be up at 2-3 in the morning when she had her video review show as well :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    kermode is too anti establishment for the role , hes too trendy , too punk rock , you need a ross , tubridy figure for the role


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    I dont think Kermode would have a chance of getting the job,as much as Id like to see him in it.You never know though,maybe the powers that be will take their head out of their asses for once.FFS if Ross could get the job then anything is possible.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,155 ✭✭✭Sideshow Mark


    Anyone but Kermode! He already has a show which he's brilliant on, called The Culture Show and I love his podcast with Dr Mayo but sitting behind a desk doing his rants to camera would not work. He needs someone to bounce off.

    Does anyone watch Film 2010 anyway? I think it it should scrapped for being irrelevant. Give its budget to The Culture Show and make a few more episodes of that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Anyone but Kermode! He already has a show which he's brilliant on, called The Culture Show and I love his podcast with Dr Mayo but sitting behind a desk doing his rants to camera would not work. He needs someone to bounce off.

    Does anyone watch Film 2010 anyway? I think it it should scrapped for being irrelevant. Give its budget to The Culture Show and make a few more episodes of that.
    I'd watch it if it wasn't on so bloody late!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,962 ✭✭✭✭dark crystal


    Kermode would be my choice, definitely. I think he represents a good cross section of the general film going public and isn't afraid to say what he thinks.

    As for Charlie Brooker, doesn't he do programmes based on TV and current affairs? I wasn't aware he was a film critic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,074 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Tristram wrote: »
    I like Kermode but don't know if he would be a good fit for Film 20XX. I think he is too good for it.
    The BBC seems to agree with you. Here's Kermode from yesterday's Mayo show:
    I'm not doing Film 2010. I've never been doing Film 2010. There was all this nonsense in the press, when Jonathan Ross said he was stepping down: "oh, the BBC have been grooming Kermode, they've been in touch with him" - not true.
    ...
    Since then there's been all this stuff in the bookies, you know, three-to-one, four-to-one ... I'm not doing it. They've never approached me, they've never asked me about it - nor, indeed, would they, nor have I ever expected them to. I'm not doing it, they haven't asked me to, and I wouldn't expect them to have asked me.
    ...
    The thing with that program is: it requires a mainstream sensibility, and - whatever else is true - if you were doing that program for BBC One, why would you say "I know, let's get that guy who thinks that 3D is a con put about by businessmen, let's get that guy who doesn't think the best movie of last year was Avatar but was actually a Swedish vampire movie*, let's get the guy who thought that last year the best movie was a black-and-white documentary about Liverpool, who thinks that Michael Bay is the Antichrist, and the most important movie of the last ten years was a Mexican fantasy movie about the Spanish Civil War*³."

    I'm not doing it, I've never been asked, I never expected to be asked, I never will be - that's it. End of story. Sorted.

    * Let The Right One In
    *² Of Time and the City
    *³ Pan's Labyrinth

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    What about someone like Tim Lovejoy?

    I mean before Ross did it, would you have picked him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Tim ****ing Lovejoy?

    Wossy has been making and writing about films since someone would let him on screen.

    Lovejoy is a plank, unless there is an aspect to his persona that I have yet to see/hear/.

    Kermonde said he would not do Film XX even if he were asked.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    MAybe you're right. Was just trying it think of someone less obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Fair enough! He did my head in on the 606 phone in. The beeb will probably end up giving it to someone too young and tanned to have spent any real time in cinemas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    keefg wrote: »
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    Heh, never thought of her but it's actually an excellent choice.

    I remember when I started getting into movies she held a late-night video-release show on ITV that was a 'must tape' for me. It'd be nice to reacquaint with her.

    I'd be fine with Charlie Brooker but please don't let it be Kermode. The guy is a complete tool. An egotist and repetitive to boot. I used to listen to his podcast but I eventually had to give up as I found his style just plain lazy, biased and worst of all sycophantic.

    Stuff that bugged me:
    1) he never gave a British film a bad review
    2) his endless rambling about The Exorcist and comparing all other films negatively to it. Ok, you like it. We get it! Stop mentioning it 5 times a week. Also, little tip, if you think The Exorcist is the best film of all time then you don't know what you're talking about.
    3) his inability to represent a contemporary cinema-going audience. To this day the guy is clearly stuck in the early to mid 1970's and this reflects heavily on his 'reviews'.
    4) Leading on from (3) his hatred for Star Wars. Get a grip. He seems to have an irrational grudge against these films that goes far beyond just disliking them. Again I'd suspect he blames SW for killing the auteur-movement in Hollywood that he probably grew up watching and jerking off to.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Some mad suggestions here! Tim Lovejoy! Paul Ross!

    DearOhDear!

    I disagree with Mark Kermode, Film is buried in the late night schedule, it doesn't suggest that they want an entirely mainstream critic. To be honest I don't think Kermode is as leftfield with his opinions as he thinks he is.

    I don't know if the BBC even care about the format anymore really, whoever they choose will either confirm or deny this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,592 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    Gotta be Kermode. His radio show with Mayo is hugely popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    Empire's Twitter:


    empiremagazine Claudia Winkleman has been named the new host of Film 2010. Claudia Winkleman. Film 2010. Did NOT see that coming. Should be interesting...
    6 minutes ago via TweetDeck


    She's hot so I'm kinda happy. In fairness I never watch Film20XX so doesn't really bother me though, thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Claudia Winkleman????????????? Rent a host.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    She always came across as a rather vapid type to me tbh. Don't think that's a good call.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    They should just let it die. When Ross took over the shows days were numbered, it wasn't uncommon to see Ross maul a film one night, only to turn around and tell the director/star how much he loved it when they appeared on his chat show.

    His Clerks 2 review is amongst the worst cinema reviews in the history of the medium.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,441 ✭✭✭old hippy


    My money's on Andrew Collins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,012 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Claudia Winkleman has been confirmed as the surprise choice to replace Jonathan Ross on Film 2010.
    The presenter, who is best known for Strictly Come Dancing spin-off series It Takes Two, will take over as host of the show later this year.
    Speaking about her new role, she said: "I am completely over the moon about being given this enormous honour and am incredibly proud to be presenting the new look Film 2010. It's an honour to follow on from the brilliant Jonathan Ross.
    "I have been lucky enough to cover the BAFTAs and present the UK broadcasts of the Oscars and the Golden Globes for years and now to be able to work with the producers on Film 2010 is just amazing."
    The popular BBC series originally launched in 1972 with veteran movie critic Barry Norman. He was replaced in 1999 by Jonathan Ross.
    Many believed that the critic and broadcaster Mark Kermode would fill the role. However, he revealed last week that he hadn't been approached about the series.
    Film 2010 will relaunch in September with a new format, which will see it feature a range of cinema experts and live studio guests.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭Greyjoy


    Disappointed that Kermode didn't get it although I would have settled for an alternative like Andrew Collins as well. They seem to be going for a really MOR host with Winkleman.

    I'd echo the comments about Ross's review of Clerks II being one of the worst ever. I had no problem with him hating the movie but Ross seemed to get really petty and laid into Kevin Smith personally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Have to admit I stopped watching this show after Barry Norman left. WibbleWobble Ross ruined it for me so I didn't really really matter who they got as his replacement from the likely candidates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,544 ✭✭✭marwelie


    bonerm wrote: »
    Have to admit I stopped watching this show after Barry Norman left. WibbleWobble Ross ruined it for me so I didn't really really care who they got as his replacement from the likely candidates.

    Exactly. I'm not a regular watcher of Film 20andwhateveryearitis but I can only imagine that this will be a disaster. Its going to be the Heat/OK/Hello version of Newsnight Review (if its even that highbrow!) I know she does the Oscar show on Sky but she never looks like she knows whats going on or who the guests are talking about. This year particularly it was worse than the Oscar ceremony itself (and thats saying something!)

    At least JRoss seemed to know what he was on about, even if some of his reviews were way off the mark! I certainly won't be watching Film 20andwhateveryearitis again, unless its on when I walk in to the room.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    Claudia Winkleman? lol!

    Although I'm glad Charlie Brooker didn't get it, as much as I like him I think he's in danger of suffering over exposure.

    And besides, film and television reviews are very different imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    marwelie wrote: »
    Exactly. I'm not a regular watcher of Film 20andwhateveryearitis but I can only imagine that this will be a disaster.

    At least JRoss seemed to know what he was on about, even if some of his reviews were way off the mark! I certainly won't be watching Film 20andwhateveryearitis again, unless its on when I walk in to the room.

    Eh, you just managed to disagree totally with what I said. I alluded to my opinion that Ross was nothing more than a fanboy goon and that good ship Film20xx already sank with him .... and thanks to him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    BBC4 needs a few proper arts review/digest programmes - a film show with say Alex Cox and someone he can bouce off would be great - Mathew Sweet would be a good contrast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭livEwirE


    Its confirmed...

    Surprise new presenter for Film 2010

    http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/413535/
    Checkout the comments at the bottom!

    What a f**king disaster, surely thay can't be serious about this. She is such an idiot at presenting and very annoying! I wouldn't consider her a professional at all. Which complete knob in the BBC made this decision? This is bound to alienate fans of the show if it goes ahead:mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,449 ✭✭✭livEwirE


    Its confirmed...

    Surprise new presenter for Film 2010

    Checkout the comments at the bottom of the article!

    What a f**king disaster, surely thay can't be serious about this. She is such an idiot at presenting and very annoying! I wouldn't consider her a professional at all. Which complete knob in the BBC made this decision? This is bound to alienate fans of the show if it goes ahead:mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,605 ✭✭✭Fizman


    Wow. I wouldn't mind so much if she was good looking. But she isn't. She really isn't.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 35,945 Mod ✭✭✭✭dr.bollocko


    A vaccuous vessel for meaningless prattle.


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