[US/IRL] 6x08 - "Recon" [** SPOILERS WITHIN **]

Sad Professor

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Episode Title: "Recon"
Airdate: March 16th 2010

Synopsis (from TV.Com):

Locke tasks Sawyer with a mission.

Next New Episode: 6x09 - March 23rd 2010

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Sad Professor

5

It's on a bit earlier tonight because of DST. Too bad those damn Canadians don't share. :pac: (EDIT: as it turns out they did.)

Helix

8

best episode in a long while imo

brought the lols early on with sawyer being a cop and miles being his partner, but was actually really really good

it would appear theyve knocked the filler crap on the head anyway

Helix

8

Sad Professor wrote: »

It's on a bit earlier tonight because of DST. Too bad those damn Canadians don't share. :pac:

its always on at 7pm est over here

they repeat it at 9pm

tok9

7

Didn't expect to watch this tonight..

Another solid episode.. Whoever said Aaron was going to be MIBs replacement was a good call to the sounds of it.. his mother was crazy.

Sawyer seems to be conning everyone...

Nice twist in the flash sideways with sawyer being a cop and being Miles partner. "La Fleur"? seems like a pretty unusual code.. even if it was just to show links between the 2 timelines.

Nice cameos from Charlie's brother Liam and Charlotte.

Overall good episode and looking forward to the next weeks one. (Will it be up early too?)

Sad Professor

5

Okay but disappointing episode.

The island stuff was good. Quite a bit covered and some good conversations between the characters. They're continuing to try and present UnLocke in a humane light. I still don't trust him though.

As evidenced by the portable sonar fences he brought, Widmore is clearly out to get Smokey. That doesn't necessarily mean he's on Jacob's side though. And I bet Desmond is behind the locked door!

Sawyer playing everybody against each other in order to get what he wants - I love it.

However, there was one too many clever twists. There are also waaay too many people with mysterious intentions running around the jungle with guns. It's getting ridiculous at this stage.

The flash-sideways didn't work for me at all this week. Things are different and yet it still feels like we've been over this territory a hundred times before. Too much soap opera with Sawyer and his various women.

I think I know where they are going with the sideways, but I can understand the frustration people are having with them. It's too much to ask people to wait an entire to season to find out what the point of them is. They aren't standing on their own merits. I miss the flashbacks.

I also really miss the ensemble. The episodes feel very empty without all the characters. I felt the same about last week's episode. It's the one thing really stopping this season from having a season 1 feel.

Sad Professor

5

tok9 wrote: »

Overall good episode and looking forward to the next weeks one. (Will it be up early too?)

Hopefully. As Helix said, it's been airing early in Canada every week, but this was the first week anyone put it up.

Daysha

6

Only an average episode with a pretty subdued ending as well. Why should we think it'll be so much harder for Sawyer to pilot a plane than to use a freaking submarine all by himself?!

Is next weeks episode Richard-centric? Have high hopes for that one if that's the case!

Helix

8

Daysha wrote: »

Is next weeks episode Richard-centric? Have high hopes for that one if that's the case!

yup, apparently so

cooker3

Uh, I already knew the above spoiler already but I think you should get put spoiler tags around it for people who don't know. Although I am greatly excited by this prospect

Reasonable enough episode. I really liked Sawyer during this episode. Conning everyone and looking out for himself, just like always. I even quite enjoyed the flash sideways. I got to say, I have always been pretty critical of Josh Holloway as an actor but I really have enjoyed his work the past 2 seasons so got to give props to him.

I was wondering if Mader would make an appearance this season. I didn't think they would use her after her little dispute with the writers last year but I guess they buried the hatchet.

Does anyone else get an heroes season 1 type vibe with the flash sideways?
I can see them all ending up in in the same place and doing whatever needs to be done for some timeline alterations. Hopefully that is the only time I compare this season to Heroes....

So Widmore is against Smokey and on Jacobs side. Does this mean he will end up teaming with Ben?
I'd say it's an near cert Desmond is in that locked room.

UnLocke was interesting. His little speech to Kate, it could have easily been Locke himself. I wonder was Lockes' essence coming through? I can't possibly imagine that Unlockes mother is anyone we know. She would have to be pretty old....

Overall I think the episode merits a 7. I think the season is finally picking up pace now we have left the temple. I'm still worried about how they will answer questions from previous seasons with the current format though..
Wait and see!

nkay1985

6

Gave it a 7. I enjoy Sawyer episodes but there wasnt a whole lot to it. You can't help but feel frustrated with the other timeline. Five different characters connected in this one story? I don't know what they're going to do. Maybe when we find out the purpose of the other timeline, this season will be great to watch again but I think the season is suffering now for the potential payback later.

Seeing Locke give Claire a good slap was fun! I wonder does she have a bigger part to play than just being the crazy bitch.

Penn

7

We've had smoke monsters, mercenaries with guns, huge bombs, polar bears etc... but Claire has scared me more than all of them. Her delivery of the "That's not John... this is my friend" line, the skull baby, singing the nursery rhymes, and now the way she held Kate's hand... she's seriously freaking me out

Overall, alright episode. Glad we didn't have to wait another 4 episodes before we found out more about Widmore arriving. The flash sideways were pretty cool until Kate burst in. Now its just getting a bit ridiculous with everyone running into each other. I mean, running into people on the island isn't too weird because there are a lot of paths which people would go on to get from place to place anyway, but in a big city like LA?

DeepBlue

1

Wow, who would have thought a Sawyer-centric episode would be worse than a Kate-centric one. :eek:
Seriously Sawyer would watch "Little House on the Prarie" and would also be so taken with a saccharine little homily by Michael Landon that he would make a life changing decision to give up on the search for Cooper? Wtf?
I know this is Lost but this is taking "suspension of disbelief" to a whole new level.
Easily the worst Sawyer-centric episode and the worst flash-sideways so far.

anotherlostie

5

I was bored a lot of the time too. The interesting parts were Sawyer and Myles as cops, and the Hydra island stuff. Liam Pace's cameo seemed pointless - he would never have met Sawyer in the alternate reality so this would only have made sense if Charlie had been in the scene. And Charlotte was as annoying in the alt world as she was on the island. The ending was a real let down, and as already said, how the hell does Sawyer think he will be able to pilot a sub - finding Lapidus would surely be a better bet.

James Forde

6

Average at best.......................

Right we know who Sawyer is after, so why the big reveal to Miles at the end it's not like we don't know his back story already, i've no problem with the flash side-ways but rehashing story lines we already know about is starting to piss me off a bit now

Sad Professor

5

Re: piloting the sub

Obviously there's somebody already on the sub who can do that. Sawyer intends to commandeer it. The sub is probably in far better working condition than the plane anyway.

DeepBlue wrote: »

Seriously Sawyer would watch "Little House on the Prarie" and would also be so taken with a saccharine little homily by Michael Landon that he would make a life changing decision to give up on the search for Cooper? Wtf?

I didn't like that scene, but he doesn't give up the search for Cooper. He still tells Miles at the end that he is going to kill him.

cooker3

I forget to mention, good to see Gretchen from PB. Funnily enough, I didn't even recognise her until she pointed a gun at Sawyer. She can con me anytime...

Sid_Justice

Does anyone read any significance into Widmore being on the Sub rather than on the island. Obviously it had it's own dramatic effect having Sawyer enter the sub etc. but I just thought maybe Widmore has some problem entering the island.

Sid_Justice

cooker3 wrote: »

I forget to mention, good to see Gretchen from PB. Funnily enough, I didn't even recognise her until she pointed a gun at Sawyer. She can con me anytime...

ha I didn't recognise her

Sad Professor

5

A few thoughts on the flash-sideways:

I think the best way to think of the sideways is as a type of reincarnation or rebirth. Sort of like the cycle of consciousness and the carrying forward of Karma that Buddhists believe in.

With that in mind, the question we need to be asking is: have the sideways characters overcome the bad karma from their previous existence? Have they learned from their mistakes?

Jack - yes. In the sideways he has a son, through whom he is able to overcome his father issues.

Locke - yes. He is with Helen and is no longer obsessed with his father. He also seems to have grown to accept being in a wheelchair.

Ben - yes. He is one again faced with a choice between Alex and his power. In contrast to his previous life, he chooses Alex.

Kate - no. She's still a fugitive and still running away from her past.

Sayid - no. He is still unable to escape his past as a torturer. Even though he has the opportunity, he makes the same mistakes as before.

Sawyer - no. Even though he is a cop in this life, he still wants to kill Anthony Cooper.

The first 3 are on Team-Jacob. The last 3 are on Team-MIB.

missingtime

8

Really liked this episode. Loved the way Sawyer told everything to everybody. Sideways story was a bit weak.

jimbling

6

Thought it was a bit meh...7 at best. Bit boring and some pretty silly scenes that have been mentioned already.

One question about the flash-sideways.
In the kate centric episode we saw Sawyer letting her get away from the chasing cops....even though he could see the handcuffs. We assumed at the time he was still a conman, but obviously that's not the case....he's a detective. Now I know she's awesomely hot, but it doesnt seem like something his character, as a cop, would do.

Borat_Sagdiyev

5

paddyirishman85 wrote: »

We've had smoke monsters, mercenaries with guns, huge bombs, polar bears etc... but Claire has scared me more than all of them. Her delivery of the "That's not John... this is my friend" line, the skull baby, singing the nursery rhymes, and now the way she held Kate's hand... she's seriously freaking me out

Overall, alright episode. Glad we didn't have to wait another 4 episodes before we found out more about Widmore arriving. The flash sideways were pretty cool until Kate burst in. Now its just getting a bit ridiculous with everyone running into each other. I mean, running into people on the island isn't too weird because there are a lot of paths which people would go on to get from place to place anyway, but in a big city like LA?

I think the point they're trying to make is that this bunch of people were going to run into each other regardless of how their lives turned out. Its not coincidence, its destiny.

Borat_Sagdiyev

5

jimbling wrote: »

Thought it was a bit meh...7 at best. Bit boring and some pretty silly scenes that have been mentioned already.

One question about the flash-sideways.
In the kate centric episode we saw Sawyer letting her get away from the chasing cops....even though he could see the handcuffs. We assumed at the time he was still a conman, but obviously that's not the case....he's a detective. Now I know she's awesomely hot, but it doesnt seem like something his character, as a cop, would do.

Nicely spotted - thats going to need a decent explanation.

Agamemnon

7

cooker3 wrote: »

I forget to mention, good to see Gretchen from PB. Funnily enough, I didn't even recognise her until she pointed a gun at Sawyer. She can con me anytime...

Nice to see her all right, I've missed her since PB ended.

Sawyer and Miles as cops would be a good laugh as a spin-off show: "He's a tough cop who plays by his own rules... and his partner talks to the dead. Sawyer & Straume, coming this Fall to ABC."

When Sawyer caught Zoe first, I thought for a second it was Tina Fey. That would have been an interesting piece of stunt casting.

This episode seemed more like a transitional one, moving the characters into position for the big confrontation to come. Watching Smokey take on Widmore's people could be brilliant, especially as they have sonic pylons, so Smokey won't be able to make a full-frontal assault.

Sad Professor

5

Okay, question time, who killed the Ajira passengers?

UnLocke? He told Richard last season that they would have to "take care" of them. After what he did to the Others at the Temple, I don't think we need to think too hard about what he meant by that.

Widmore? He already sent a boat load of guys with guns to the island with the intention (according to Ben) of killing everyone. And now here he is with another boat load of guys with guns. Oh and look a bunch of dead people lying nearby, what a cooincidence.

*sigh*

Maybe, the Ajira passengers figured they were all dead anyway and killed themselves.

me-skywalker

7

Decent episode... More of an episode to set-up the characters for the up coming episodes.

Sawyer telling Kate he will put her in the sub and take her off a little twist on the Juliet Sawyer slant about NOT leaving in the sub.

Script was awful for the flash-sideways and Miles' acting!

Still unsure if Widmore is actually with Jacob since Ben banished him from the Island(tricked him according to Widmore) He is obviously against MIB but he coudl be a still a separate 3rd party and want to kill BOTH Jacob and MIB.

How could Smokey get to the Hydra Island... Have we seen Smokey on Hydra before??

Does Un-Locke really trust Sawyer? Is he that stupid? Sawyer hasnt been 'tainted' yet so is not fully under his control yet.

AnonoBoy

I know this is a minor point but how did Sawyer know that the chick was faking just by her saying she was going to meet her boyfriend in Guam?

I mean it was obvious she was lying from the start but how did that fact clue him in?

Also - I don't think we've seen Smokey on the Hydra Island but he doesn't seem to think he'll have any trouble getting over there, does he? And apparently Widmore doesn't either, hence the pylons.

I'm inclined to believe that Widmore didn't kill the passengers but I don't know if Smokey did it either?

Could it be that Widmore's mercenaries weren't going to kill everyone on the island as Ben said, or is he really just an independent evil pr*ck who will do whatever it takes to control the island?

Also - for what reason would he bring Desmond to the island?

Sad Professor

5

me-skywalker wrote: »

How could Smokey get to the Hydra Island... Have we seen Smokey on Hydra before??

He was over there for several episodes last season. That's where he appeared on the beach to the Ajira survivors.

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I know this is a minor point but how did Sawyer know that the chick was faking just by her saying she was going to meet her boyfriend in Guam?

I mean it was obvious she was lying from the start but how did that fact clue him in?

She was asking how many people were with Sawyer and how many guns they had.

AnonoBoy

Sad Professor wrote: »

He was over there for several episodes last season. That's where he appeared on the beach to the Ajira survivors.

Doh! So he was.

She was asking how many people were with Sawyer and how many guns they had.

Yeah I just thought there was something in the Guam/boyfriend comment that convinced him. Maybe not.

Penn

7

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Doh! So he was.

Yeah I just thought there was something in the Guam/boyfriend comment that convinced him. Maybe not.

She did pause a bit before saying Guam, but I think he had a feeling anyway with the questions she was asking

leggo

7

One small point that I liked, and I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, is that last week Locke sent Ben to Hydra island...when we now know that him and his crew WEREN'T, in fact, there.

So did he know that Widmore was coming? And, if so, was he sending Ben to probable death? Both seem likely.

AnonoBoy

leggo wrote: »

One small point that I liked, and I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, is that last week Locke sent Ben to Hydra island...when we now know that him and his crew WEREN'T, in fact, there.

So did he know that Widmore was coming? And, if so, was he sending Ben to probable death? Both seem likely.

Good point. I think he knew Widmore was coming, hence him sending Sawyer over.

So that would mean he is either anticipating a quick defeat of Widmore and was genuine in wanting Ben to join him or he wanted Widmore to have Ben for whatever reason.

Penn

7

leggo wrote: »

One small point that I liked, and I haven't seen it mentioned here yet, is that last week Locke sent Ben to Hydra island...when we now know that him and his crew WEREN'T, in fact, there.

So did he know that Widmore was coming? And, if so, was he sending Ben to probable death? Both seem likely.

I dunno, he seemed pretty surprised when Sawyer said Widmore. I know Locke probably lied to him before Sawyer went to Hydra Island, but he'd have no reason to lie once he came back.

Plus, while Sawyer is the best liar according to Locke, Ben is the ultimate survivalist. Locke may have thought that if the original Ajira survivors were still alive, Ben could easily befriend them as they've already met him, and if anyone else was there, Ben would find a way to integrate with them.

Its a good point though, I hadn't thought of it til you mentioned it

Bob Z

Do you think Jack will be the new Jacob and Sawyer will be the new MIB?

They have never got on and they could en up as rivals for all eternity

me-skywalker

7

Sad Professor wrote: »

He was over there for several episodes last season. That's where he appeared on the beach to the Ajira survivors.
.

No no.. I mean actually as the Smoke monster not as Locke... I dont think we have! But with Widmore starting to erect the pylons I would assume Widmore thinks the smoke monster can appear on Hydra. But how bloody far can the 'smoke chains' reach!

Sad Professor

5

me-skywalker wrote: »

No no.. I mean actually as the Smoke monster not as Locke... I dont think we have!

Isn't it the same thing though? If he was there as Locke, he can be there as Smokey as well. I often used the fact that it seemed impractical for Smokey to travel to the Hydra island as evidence for him not being UnLocke, but that's all out the window now.

I think we have to abandon the idea also that he is chained to any particular spot. Instead it would seem he can travel anywhere within the realm of "the island". But I reckon there must be something keeping him within that realm. He may *want* to go home, but I'm not sure he actually can. This is where I think he is lying. He wants everyone else off the island.

tok9 wrote: »

Another solid episode.. Whoever said Aaron was going to be MIBs replacement was a good call to the sounds of it.. his mother was crazy.

Yeah, what UnLocke said about this was interesting. I'm not entirely sure how to interpret it, but it did seem like he was saying that Aaron was headed down the same path as himself. This implies several things

- UnLocke doesn't want the same thing to happen to Aaron, which perhaps explains why Christian told Locke last season that Aaron was where he belongs "and that's not here". So was Aaron ending up with Kate part of MIB's plan?

- The sickness is not of MIB's making. In fact, maybe his crazy mother was a victim of it as well.

leggo

7

Sad Professor wrote: »

I think we have to abandon the idea also that he is chained to any particular spot. Instead it would seem he can travel anywhere within the realm of "the island". But I reckon there must be something keeping him within that realm. He may *want* to go home, but I'm not sure he actually can. This is where I think he is lying. He wants everyone else off the island.

Agreed. I haven't bought the "I want to go home..." line for one minute. One of the few characteristics we know about Locke is that he'll say/do whatever it takes to make people do his bidding.

Him promising them a route off the island, under the guise of shared interests, reeks of further manipulation. It looks likely that he needs them to see off the candidates, and possibly Widmore now (though note how neither he nor Widmore have explicitly said their enemies. Just gone along with Sawyer's assumption), so he can have the island to himself...for whatever that is worth...

blue_steel

4

Ok very, very boring. On a par with What Kate Does and that is saying something. The flash-sideways was awful. Sawyer as a cop as opposed to a criminal. How shocking. Sawyer has a date with a random former female cast member. That’s imaginative. Sawyer meets Charlie’s brother. Eerie. Not to mention his partner is someone from the island timeline. Gasp!
At this stage I don't care what the point of them is. When the writers say they always had an ending did it always include wasting half the final season with this garbage?
Meanwhile on the island Sawyer discovers yet more gun totting extras before double crossing Locke, then treble crossing Widmore, then quadruple crossing... oh forget it.
Season 6 is shaping up as the shows weakest. Imho there have been 2 good episodes (The Substitute and Dr Linus) and the rest has been one huge disappointment.
Next week promises so much and if it fails to deliver I will scream.

Mr.Nice Guy

7

It was a pretty decent episode although certain moments left me scratching my head (and not in the good way). For one thing, Sawyer in the Flash Sideways allowed Kate to escape after noticing she was wearing handcuffs. Now we learn he's a cop? Are we really supposed to believe a cop would let a pretty girl in handcuffs evade arrest? Give me a break. :rolleyes:

I did like how they showed MIB to be more than just a pantomime villain and if Widmore turns out to be one of the good guys I'll be very pleased because I never bought that he was as sinister as others thought he was. Love the idea that Desmond is on the sub with him.

Sawyer in this episode I thought was OK in the sideways timeline but on the regular timeline his actions bugged me. He's either conning MIB or coming across as very selfish since we know the Monster killed the pilot, Mr Eko and others. Is he willing to let all that slide just so he can get off the island? Let's hope it's just a con.

On that note, I did find the Widmore/Sawyer scene pretty unbelievable. If Sawyer isn't doing a con and Widmore believes him to be genuine then Widmore looks like a goof. I guess it will all become clear.

Just one other thing I noticed, not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but Claire took Kate's hand in hers which I thought was unusual. She also hugged Kate in this episode which again seemed rather suspicious. Anyone think it's possible Claire might be trying to pass on The Sickness to Kate?

the_monkey

5

Meh ... gave it a 6 ... not great .... writers would wanna hurry it up with
the alternate timeline ... 9 episodes left to wrap this up...

Never thought i'd say this but i enjoying day 8 of 24 more !!!

Soby

7

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I know this is a minor point but how did Sawyer know that the chick was faking just by her saying she was going to meet her boyfriend in Guam?

I think he used a similar story or something himself..or because he is/was a conman he can read people easily..Btw some of you guys deserves medals for picking up little details here and there

Basq

Half-way through the episode.. and it's just plain silly!

Logic and important storylines be damned.. it's pretty damn ridiculous that in it's last season and with 8 episodes remaining, we have episodes like this that serve little or no real purpose!

And Lindelof and Cuse have the audacity to say they won't have time to wrap up all questions / loose-ends... and yet they give us Sawyer prancing around on Hydra with a Tina Fey lookalike.

Not impressed!

Penn

7

I think Sawyer's plan makes perfect sense. He had to tell Widmore about Locke in order to gain his trust, but he couldn't just go back to Locke and say there was no-one there, so he tells Locke the truth. Now both Widmore and Locke think Sawyer is on their side, and if Sawyer's plan to hijack the sub fails, whoever wins between Locke and Widmore will still think Sawyer is on their side.

Not only that, but there is also the possibility that he told Widmore he was going to tell Locke about him, and he and Widmore came up with another plan between them

podgemonster

4

Gave it a 4, found it frustrating. Did enjoy the Miles & Sawyer relationship and they moved quickly getting Widmore into the story. Hope its Penny and not Desmond would jus make it less obvious or maybe Hawkings in there.

Other than that, Sawyer finding perfect moments to take his shirt off, sleep with women, living a lonely, empty revenge fuelled life. Enter an group of extras which will be killed off in a couple episodes and another sub to be blown to pieces (more than likely).

No insight into Charlotte other than that she puts out on a first date. No explaination for those polar bears skeletons in Africa or whatever. No insight into the sickness, the writers could have let Sayid ellaborate on what he was feeling and what the sickness had done to him but no go.

Ben and Sayid flashsideways showed what men they had become. Sawyers wasn't a clear cut, hes doing a good job but still has bad intentions. His plan to get off the island is also very optimistic. Widmore isn't an idiot!

jimbling

6

podgemonster wrote: »

No insight into Charlotte other than that she puts out on a first date. No explaination for those polar bears skeletons in Africa or whatever.

Okay, I agree with you for the most part to be honest, poor episode. But the polar bears in africa got explained like two years ago.
They were trained to turn the wheel which moved the island when required. Obviously they would then disappear and turn up in Tunisia or something..... like both Ben and Locke in the past few seasons.

jimmy5bellys

7

I liked this episode. Two points:

1. Locke's pimp hand is way strong

2. Sawyer and Miles as cops - I smell a spin-off...

Wasn't sure which way Saywer was gonna go. Wheter he'd con MiB or Whitmore or both. Or will he use Kate as bait when taking the sub? I really liked that part.

Necronomicon

4

It was an average enough episode I thought. While I felt last week's flash-sideways was pretty decent, this week it was poor. I mean at this stage, even if this timeline is reconciled in a mind-blowing way, will it have been worth the frustration each week? Consensus seems to be that they're showing us how the characters were destined to meet regardless of the island, but at this stage it feels like a game of how many losties they can fit into the alternate timeline. There's just no justification for spending half an episode on a long-since finished arc like Sawyer chasing down Anthony Cooper.

As for the on-island stuff, the thing that struck me was the revelation that Widmore is after Smokey. But what felt a little off for me was, how did Sawyer know this? He brought up the deal, it was almost an assumption that it was UnLocke that Widmore was there fore. It also begs the question, what does this mean for the Ben vs. Widmore rivalry? The freighter was sent in with Keamy & Co. for what seemed to be the sole purpose of capturing Ben.

PirateShampoo

6

Heres a question.


Why did Lock tell Ben to meet him on the Hydra Island?

Or was it Widmore hadnt arrived by then, but the Hydra is where Lock needs to get for what ever plan he has?

Sad Professor

5

Necronomicon wrote: »

As for the on-island stuff, the thing that struck me was the revelation that Widmore is after Smokey. But what felt a little off for me was, how did Sawyer know this? He brought up the deal, it was almost an assumption that it was UnLocke that Widmore was there fore.

He saw the portable sonar pylons. He worked security for Dharma for 3 years and obviously knew what they were for.

PirateShampoo wrote:

Or was it Widmore hadnt arrived by then, but the Hydra is where Lock needs to get for what ever plan he has?

He claims to want to leave the island, so I assume he's after the plane. That's why he told Ben to meet him there.

Although - what does a smoke monster need with an airplane? :pac:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ

Penn

7

PirateShampoo wrote: »

Heres a question.


Why did Lock tell Ben to meet him on the Hydra Island?

Or was it Widmore hadnt arrived by then, but the Hydra is where Lock needs to get for what ever plan he has?

Widmore hadn't arrived by then, or at least, we the audience hadn't seen him before then. Widmore in the sub from last weeks episode happened after Locke told Ben about Hydra Island. And like I said, Locke seemed a bit surprised when Sawyer said Widmore was on Hydra Island.

Locke's plan seems to be to use the Ajira plane to get off the island. How, I don't know. Even though the plane seems to be intact due to the runway they built, and if they turned the plane around they should be able to take off, when it landed, the co-pilot was killed with branches from a tree if I remember, which means the fron window of the plane is open. Can't see how they can fly it with air pressure etc