Drink on Good Friday

extraice

There are only two days when you will be hard pressed to get any drink - Good Friday and Christmas Day. why is this and all Eu zone are open for drink
Goodfriday ? what good about it ?

public can get a drink , what about the Tourism

KevinVonSpiel

extraice wrote: »

There are only two days when you will be hard pressed to get any drink - Good Friday and Christmas Day. why is this and all Eu zone are open for drink
Goodfriday ? what good about it ?

public can get a drink , what about the Tourism

Are you related to George W. Bush?

Clinque

Haha I think these are the two days of the year I drink the most!!

biko

Still three weeks away OP.
As this isn't Galway specific I'll bump it over to the good folks at AH for some well-measured responses and jovial banter.

Sofiztikated

Why is this? Because Church and State were holding hands when laws were being made.

Why do I care? I don't. Doesn't bother me one bit, I can get by without dying because a public house is closed for one day.

El Weirdo

extraice wrote: »

There are only two days when you will be hard pressed to get any drink - Good Friday and Christmas Day. why is this and all Eu zone are open for drink
Goodfriday ? what good about it ?

public can get a drink , what about the Tourism

What?

Euro_Kraut

I like quirky laws like this. Makes me feel Ireland is special.

orourkeda

I notice that " who gives a rats ass " isnt an option

Guy:Incognito

Sofiztikated wrote: »

Why is this? Because Church and State were holding hands when laws were being made.

Why do I care? I don't. Doesn't bother me one bit, I can get by without dying because a public house is closed for one day.

You can still get by without drink if it's open.But the point is you can choose.

Sofiztikated

Stekelly wrote: »

You can still get by without drink if it's open.But the point is you can choose.

Ah, see, with it being closed, you don't have to choose. And anyway, theres going to be more pissed people on Good Friday than on any other Friday, its just they won't be falling out of the pubs at 1.30.

Milky Moo

Just go to the off license the day before bingo bango you can get drunk cheaply with friends in the comfort of your own home.

It's a non issue!

bigbadbear

It's the best day to drink ever. If the pubs start opening it will be ruined!!!

epgc3fyqirnbsx

Knock airport is banging every good friday, I swear to god any other country would be disgusted at the drinking and debauchery going on in an airport, security is right out the window in the name of a good time cos we're not meant to be having a good time

sron

I don't think those preaching secularism really care if they're open or not; it's just another example of Church bashing (which I wouldn't mind only for its pettiness).The only people who really care about this are the publicans who want more money. So it comes down to a battle between greed and religion. I'm reasonably sure where 21st century Ireland will stand on this matter.

Turtyturd

Are any pubs still open? Last I remember publicans were crying about how the smoking ban was killing them off.

What next, will we find out taxi drivers are exaggerating their circumstances too?

ScumLord

I'm not bothered, I wasn't going to the pub that day anyway.

orourkeda

Turtyturd wrote: »

Are any pubs still open? Last I remember publicans were crying about how the smoking ban was killing them off.

What next, will we find out taxi drivers are exaggerating their circumstances too?

Or will they simply cry into their pint like all irish people?

stovelid

It's stupid that you can't buy drink on that day, yet it seems silly to really really need to drink more as a result.

doughef

I have to say, fairly impressed with most of the comments here so far,

good friday, like it or not, is a huge day with huge meaning for a lot of people. Religious beliefs aside (practicing Catholic myself) its a day for a small bit of stepping back and remembering the important things in life.
Its always been that shops etc were closed. If we were to open up everything it would be a real slap in the face to the older generation who revere the day so much,

now, as a big time boozer myself, i have no problem with the pubs being closed,again, its nice to be able to have a day out of the ordinary every so often,

wont be eating meat either

Guy:Incognito

doughef wrote: »

good friday, like it or not, is a huge day with huge meaning for a lot of people.

The people that hold it in high regard fr religious meaning is steadily declining. the majority would prefer it was a normal Friday. Most of us dont have a day off anyway.

Practicing Catholics (and anyone else for that matter) can continue to not go to the pub and observe good Friday as they always did. The rest of us can spend our day the way we choose.

lugha

I don’t why this law isn’t regarded by both publicans and the Gardai as one of these bizarre archaic laws, you know the kind (e.g. It is only permissible to drive a cow on a public highway the first Sunday after a full moon if you pin a yellow ribbon to her right butt cheek) and simply ignore it? Surely it’s an embarrassment to all concerned? Can we not concede that we had a bit of an off day when we drafted it and just pretend we never did?

bigbadbear

Unless you are trying to crush all that is religious why wouldn't you want to have it as it is. It's not a religious celebration for most of us: it's just a tradition. People who think its a disgrace to have a holiday this day must also believe we should do away with the christmas day holiday.

Mike 1972

No pub (singular ?) should be closed

Er you mean they should be forced to open if for some reason they werent going to anyway ?

lugha

bigbadbear wrote: »

Unless you are trying to crush all that is religious why wouldn't you want to have it as it is. It's not a religious celebration for most of us: it's just a tradition. People who think its a disgrace to have a holiday this day must also believe we should do away with the christmas day holiday.

Nevermind religion and my eternal soul. Where am I going to watch Leinster V Munster?

bigbadbear

lugha wrote: »

Nevermind religion and my eternal soul. Where am I going to watch Leinster V Munster?

Is it not on rte?

Why did they put it on good friday anyway?

Guy:Incognito

bigbadbear wrote: »

Is it not on rte?

Why did they put it on good friday anyway?

No. Setanta.

It's closed becase of Religion, so it should be reversed.

It's only been in force for 80 years, not like it's a centuries old thing.

and yes, I'd leave it up to publicans if they want to open of Chirstmas too. It's their buisness, they should be able to open it if an when they choose.

bigbadbear

Stekelly wrote: »

No. Setanta.

Oh yes RTÉ I forgot is a church run organisation That is pathetic. Seriously where are We going to watch it??

Dudess

The tidal wave of terror at being alcohol-less is funny, but at the same time, it's nice to go to friends' houses for drinks - in fairness, I doubt there'd be as much panic if it was e.g. Good Monday. The fact it's practically at the weekend has people wanting to use it for socialising.

Doesn't bother me whether the pubs are open or not.

Mike 1972

bigbadbear wrote: »

why wouldn't you want to have it as it is. It's not a religious celebration for most of us: it's just a tradition.

Tradition is a pretty crap reason for doing/not doing something too.

As far as I know (and Im open to correction on this although it doesnt really matter a great deal) none of the worlds major religions have any specific objection to the consumption of alcohol on "Good Friday". Its purely an Irish oddity.

Oh and I didnt think it was a religious celebration for anybody really ?

philologos

I personally would prefer if pubs were closed on Good Friday, first due to the recognition of the importance of the day amongst a sizeable proportion of the Irish people, secondly this is my area of work and I'd prefer to be off. Then again, everyone who wants drink flocks to their local off-license to get whatever drink they need anyway on the Thursday.

brianthebard

This must be the third or fourth thread we've had about good friday so far this year, and its still weeks away. Can we have a sticky for one big whinge about the lack of booze, or just a moratorium on this discussion until holy week?

rubadub

doughef wrote: »

good friday, like it or not, is a huge day with huge meaning for a lot of people. Religious beliefs aside (practicing Catholic myself) its a day for a small bit of stepping back and remembering the important things in life.
Its always been that shops etc were closed. If we were to open up everything it would be a real slap in the face to the older generation who revere the day so much,

I didn't think its such a big deal for people, thought easter sunday would be more of a big deal. Its apparently not even important enough to be a public holiday, while easter monday even is, and st. stephens. Its just another holy day and there if you look at a religious calendar more that half of all days are some sort of holy day.

philologos

rubadub wrote: »

Its just another holy day and there if you look at a religious calendar more that half of all days are some sort of holy day.

In terms of Christianity, Good Friday is the most major day of reverence throughout the year. It is the moment when Jesus paid for the sins of all mankind in full, it is the epitome of grace, and forgiveness. For Christians this isn't "just another holy day", it is the holy day.

brianthebard

doughef wrote: »

Its always been that shops etc were closed. If we were to open up everything it would be a real slap in the face to the older generation who revere the day so much,

Those same auld wans didn't seem to have a problem doing their groceries in Dunnes today while I was there, and on the day of rest and all.
Traditions like these which are quite superficial (the shop closing and stuff, not the religious aspects) can and have been easily let go in the past, there's no reason why good friday couldn't also change without too many grannies swooning.

rainbow kirby

Stekelly wrote: »

Practicing Catholics (and anyone else for that matter) can continue to not go to the pub and observe good Friday as they always did. The rest of us can spend our day the way we choose.

^ This. Religious law should not be the law of the state.

johnp

I don't drink on Tuesdays. Why would you take a Friday away from me too? :mad:

rubadub

Jakkass wrote: »

, it is the holy day.

Very strange that its not a public holiday then, don't you think?

If it is the day why are 4 other "holy days" made public holidays before it

philologos

rubadub wrote: »

Very strange that its not a public holiday then, don't you think?

Perhaps.

rubadub wrote: »

If it is the day why are 4 other "holy days" made public holidays before it

I don't examine the theological beliefs of those in the State, nor do I regard them as an authority on what beliefs Christians hold. I do know however that the death and resurrection is central to Christianity, without them Christianity is pointless, and nullified.

doughef wrote: »

Its always been that shops etc were closed. If we were to open up everything it would be a real slap in the face to the older generation who revere the day so much

This is surely a sad enough reflection on Catholicism / Christianity in general if you are saying that "Ah, we should shut the shops just to respect the old wans".

Isn't the Crucifixion relevant irrespective of whether you are young and old?

Stercus Accidit

I want to live in a country that respects its own constitutions call for no religion to be given a special place in law, yet we have theocratic law.

This is a matter of religious discrimination, it does not matter what is banned it matters why it is.

rainbow kirby

Jakkass wrote: »

Isn't the Crucifixion relevant irrespective of whether you are young and old?

No.

Guy:Incognito

bigbadbear wrote: »

Oh yes RTÉ I forgot is a church run organisation That is pathetic.

RTE dont have rights to the Magners league, good Friday or not.

bigbadbear

Does anyone remember whether or not they actually allowed us to drink early in the morning for the early world cup games in 2002?

lugha

Jakkass wrote: »

Isn't the Crucifixion relevant irrespective of whether you are young and old?

So some people undoubtedly, not so to many more.
But it isn't either / or. People for whom Good Friday is a special day can still regard it as a special day, without imposing their views on others.

Turtyturd

Jakkass wrote: »

In terms of Christianity, Good Friday is the most major day of reverence throughout the year. It is the moment when Jesus paid for the sins of all mankind in full, it is the epitome of grace, and forgiveness. For Christians this isn't "just another holy day", it is the holy day.

For the church of common sense it is just another day, let the pubs open.

philologos

rainbow kirby wrote: »

No.

Interesting, the actuality differs somewhat. Despite the bias towards atheism on boards (I still to this day get dumbfounded at the inconsistency between what is written on boards, and what actually occurs in society), there are still a sizeable amount of the population under 30 who believe in Christ, irrespective of how much people wish to deny it.

I find it curious that doughef seems to think that the best argument for not allowing alcohol to be sold on Good Friday is to respect the "auld wans".

Although the argument could also be made, that the prohibition just makes people go nuts trying to find drink on the Thursday before hand.

Turtyturd wrote:

For the church of common sense it is just another day, let the pubs open.

What's so common sense about your position in comparison to mine?

Every nation on the face of the earth has events and days of importance. Ours is no different.

Guy:Incognito

Jakkass wrote: »

Interesting, the actuality differs somewhat. Despite the bias towards atheism on boards (I still to this day get dumbfounded at the inconsistency between what is written on boards, and what actually occurs in society), there are still a sizeable amount of the population under 30 who believe in Christ, irrespective of how much people wish to deny it.

and that's fine. a before, they can continue to not go to the pub. But to deny the pub owers the option of opening if they are not religious themselves and to deny all the rest of us who dont subscribe to religion the option to go to the pub if we choose, despite the fact that teh vast majority wont go o the pub anyway, is wrong.

lugha

Jakkass wrote: »

I find it curious that doughef seems to think that the best argument for not allowing alcohol to be sold on Good Friday is to respect the "auld wans".

When there are no good arguments for something, the best argument can be pretty mediocre .

Mike 1972

Jakkass wrote: »

there are still a sizeable amount of the population under 30 who believe in Christ, irrespective of how much people wish to deny it.

I find it curious that doughef seems to think that the best argument for not allowing alcohol to be sold on Good Friday is to respect the "auld wans".

So it is "curious" not allowing alcohol to be sold on Good Friday in order to "respect the auld wans"

But not if the reason is in order to "respect those who believe in Christ" ?

philologos

Stekelly wrote: »

and that's fine. a before, they can continue to not go to the pub. But to deny the pub owers the option of opening if they are not religious themselves and to deny all the rest of us who dont subscribe to religion the option to go to the pub if we choose, despite the fact that teh vast majority wont go o the pub anyway, is wrong.

It could be argued that those who wish to acquire alcohol can get it on the Thursday beforehand, in order 1) to give bar staff who wish to observe Good Friday the opportunity to do so, 2) to limit rowdiness, drunk and disorderly behaviour in public places during this observance. Drinking domestically doesn't allow for the 2nd to happen.

To be honest with you, this issue isn't the be all and end all for me. I can see partially why people would be concerned in the secular point of view, but then again, as I see it every culture has days of observance like this, Ireland isn't any different. As long as people of faith still exist in society they will let their concerns be known, and they will impact the culture and the society around them.

Guy:Incognito

Jakkass wrote: »

It could be argued that those who wish to acquire alcohol can get it on the Thursday beforehand, in order 1) to give bar staff who wish to observe Good Friday the opportunity to do so, 2) to limit rowdiness, drunk and disorderly behaviour in public places during this observance. Drinking domestically doesn't allow for the 2nd to happen.

The bar staff dont own the pub, if they want tthe night off they can ask for it. If the ower wants to open, that should behis choice.

As for 2, can we limit masses to only being allowed on Sunday to cut down on people parking cars all over the place around churches?

Or would that be wrong to dictate when the church can conduct it's business?

Mike 1972

Jakkass wrote: »

to give bar staff who wish to observe Good Friday the opportunity to do so.

Other prople are expected to turn up for work why should bar staff be treated differently ?