Lady drivers trying to kill me

aido 1976

I really think somebody is out to get me today........

3 times today I had other drivers (All Women) try and run me off the road.

1> This morning, M50 Ballymun roundabout. Heading North
I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right/take the third exit. Indicated etc. The car that was in the right lane coming off the motorway suddenly decides lash on the indicator and make for the front/side of me in an attempt to shoot back onto the motorway. And she lashes on the horn.

That was the lady driver in the 03 blue Passat.

2> M50 again heading south bound.
Driving along in the over taking lane (Not hogging the lane....overtaking) just past the Lucan exit. Lady driver 05 Black BMW convertable decided, lash on the indicator and again just starts pulling right, this time I hit the horn and the breaks, she cops on that I was there and voilently pulls back into her own lane. And gives me the dirty look.

3> M50 again.........heading south bound
Coming up on the Red Cow, I could see ahead there was a slow movin lorry and a car, so I indicate check my way is clear and move into the overtaking lane. I proceed on my way and just as the nose of my car gets along side the car behind the lorry.........On comes the indicator and out she comes. I hit the horn and stand on the brakes, she didnt give a f**k and continues without a care. Straight out in front of me, I flash the old high beems and she responds with giving me the finger.
That was the lovely lady in the 99 WW reg Green Focus with the L plates on.

I am not bashing women drivers, but come on folks all 3 where women and all 3 just lashed the indicators on and just pulled out, and made out as if I was in the wrong.
Ladies please take note: Indicators are a signal of intent not right of way.

What are your taughts....

kazul

aido 1976 wrote: »

1> This morning, M50 Ballymun roundabout. Heading North
I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right/take the third exit. Indicated etc.

What are your taughts....

You were in the wrong lane, the other 2 were just poor observation/anticipation on your part

ardmacha

I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right

This doesn't seem quite seem the best way to do things, if you wish to avoid problems.

Xios

aido 1976 wrote: »

I really think somebody is out to get me today........

Try riding a motorbike, this is a daily occurance for me, it's like bikes don't exist or something, we're invisible.

bladebrew

this thread will end in arguments:)

to be fair i havent seen a woman do anything mad recently,i did see a learner driving towards a blinding setting sun using her hand over her eyes instead of the sun visor!!

and every ford s-max i have seen in the last few week is doing something stupid or dangerous regardless of who is driving!

edit: at least they indicated!

ShamoBuc

Glad the M50 is in Dublin!!

Guy:Incognito

Through the course of today I had 3 women pull out in front of me when i was going through roundabouts. Now I've had men do it aswell but everytime a woman does it, without fail, they just stare straight ahead out through their windscreens as if cars cant hit them if they dont look at them. Me jamming on with my hand on the horn has no effect on them, they just stare straight ahead.

aido 1976

kazul wrote: »

You were in the wrong lane, the other 2 were just poor observation/anticipation on your part

ardmacha wrote: »

This doesn't seem quite seem the best way to do things, if you wish to avoid problems.

OK kazul, I may have being in the wrong lane, but she got off the motorway along with me, me in the left and she in the right. and then she decides NO she wants to go back onto the motorway, lashes on the indicator and just pulls out.

aido 1976

Stekelly wrote: »

Through the course of today I had 3 women pull out in front of me when i was going through roundabouts. Now I've had men do it aswell but everytime a woman does it, without fail, they just stare straight ahead out through their windscreens as if cars cant hit them if they dont look at them. Me jamming on with my hand on the horn has no effect on them, they just stare straight ahead.

Funny enough Stekelly, the driver of the BMW, after realising her mistake and voilently pulling back into her own lane, just clutched onto the stearing wheel as if it was going to run away and stared straight ahead, she didn't even glance as I passed her.

kazul

The whole post reads like you are one of those drivers who just expects others to clear a path in front of you, unfortunately we all have to accept the fact that we share the road with others and owe them courtesy and care.
In fact, if you're confident and competent as a driver you should pity, not scorn, those women/other road-users whose skills aren't as sharp as yours. Frustration and anger will only lead to poor driving and judgement on your part.
Rise above it

Misticles

You should be anticipating these happenings--all part of driving-

I would be miffed too if people behaved like that but in fairness I have probably done it too at some stage and so have most people.

I do apologise by waving the hand or what not to the driver I have pi--ed off.

Guy:Incognito

kazul wrote: »

The whole post reads like you are one of those drivers who just expects others to clear a path in front of you, unfortunately we all have to accept the fact that we share the road with others and owe them courtesy and care.

surely that's the other way round? He did have a clar path in front of him, others chose to pull in to it in the wrong.

MagicMarker

aido 1976 wrote: »

OK kazul, I may have being in the wrong lane, but she got off the motorway along with me, me in the left and she in the right. and then she decides NO she wants to go back onto the motorway, lashes on the indicator and just pulls out.

Yeah, you were both in the wrong lane then, so you both fúcked up. What made get into the left lane if you're turning right?

biko

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2RWXJEQ9Q

aido 1976

kazul wrote: »

The whole post reads like you are one of those drivers who just expects others to clear a path in front of you, unfortunately we all have to accept the fact that we share the road with others and owe them courtesy and care.
In fact, if you're confident and competent as a driver you should pity, not scorn, those women/other road-users whose skills aren't as sharp as yours. Frustration and anger will only lead to poor driving and judgement on your part.
Rise above it

Misticles wrote: »

You should be anticipating these happenings--all part of driving-

I would be miffed too if people behaved like that but in fairness I have probably done it too at some stage and so have most people.
I do apologise by waving the hand or what not to the driver I have pi--ed off.

No Kazul, I do not believe my self as the type of driver who thinks other drivers should clear my path, I would more often allow someone to merge into the lane in front of me. But on top of me is another matter.

unfortunately we all have to accept the fact that we share the road with others and owe them courtesy and care.

Exactly care

In fact, if you're confident and competent as a driver you should pity, not scorn, those women/other road-users whose skills aren't as sharp as yours.

I do pity, the poor sod that fails to notice this happening and ends up hitting these less competent drivers.

Misticles, I do and did anticipate these things that is how I avoided an accident 3 times today.
At least if you realise you have p****d off another driver you wave or whatever, thats good manners. not give them the finger

corktina

MagicMarker wrote: »

Yeah, you were both in the wrong lane then, so you both fúcked up. What made get into the left lane if you're turning right?

it reads to me as if she was in the RH lane taking the second exit (OK so back to the mway but that doesnt make it wrong) on a 2 lane roundabout meaning she was in the correct lane (or could have been the other one, doesnt matter) and the OP was in the completely wrong lane.

_Kaiser_

Xios wrote: »

Try riding a motorbike, this is a daily occurance for me, it's like bikes don't exist or something, we're invisible.

To be fair, while muppetry in cars is a daily occurance, I've lost count of the number of people on motorbikes who tear along ignoring road markings, cars ahead of/behind them (or coming towards them!) and generally bullying their way in and out of the lane as it suits them, expecting car drivers to make way regardless for them.

aido 1976

Magnus wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mL2RWXJEQ9Q

:):):) Excellent Magnus

bladebrew

im still trying to figure it out

she was going straight through the roundabout so she should have been in the left lane,and you were going to the right/third exit so you should have been in the right lane?

Misticles

aido 1976 wrote: »

Misticles, I do and did anticipate these things that is how I avoided an accident 3 times today.
At least if you realise you have p****d off another driver you wave or whatever, thats good manners. not give them the finger

True, ya just have to be weary of edgit drivers that think they own the road and that they can drive as they please.

I saw some fool on the m50 undertaking, weaving in and out of cars, and in the process nearly hit a motorbike which had to swerve into another lane to avoid being knocked off his bike!! the bike went in pursuit of the car.

Some people shouldn have a license. All people mess up sometimes but some people just take plain liberties on the roads!!! Grr

You could always make note of their reg and report but then again how effective is that really? Probably no more than tooting your horn at them.

TheColl

I nearly got sandwiched by two cars the other day, both were women drivers, but i've seen enough awful driving from men as well!

What happened the other day was....

Two lanes approaching roundabout, I intended going straight on (second exit) so took my place in the left hand lane. A lady driver pulls up on my outside, indicating right... "Grand," I thought, she's going to the third exit. Unfortunately not! We both took off almost the same time, she was slightly ahead, coming up to the second exit she "lashes on the indicator" as the OP might say and just pulls into my lane... Meanwhile another lady driver enters the roundabout from the first exit (from my perspective) right in front of me! I had to jam on the brakes to avoid both of them, had I not I would have been the meat in a not-so-tasty sandwich!

aido 1976

corktina wrote: »

it reads to me as if she was in the RH lane taking the second exit (OK so back to the mway but that doesnt make it wrong) on a 2 lane roundabout meaning she was in the correct lane (or could have been the other one, doesnt matter) and the OP was in the completely wrong lane.

She was in the RH lane, I was in the LH lane. She basically wanted to go straight through the roundabout, so she should have being in the LH lane.

Misticles

TheColl wrote: »

I nearly got sandwiched by two cars the other day, both were women drivers, but i've seen enough awful driving from men as well!

What happened the other day was....

Two lanes approaching roundabout, I intended going straight on (second exit) so took my place in the left hand lane. A lady driver pulls up on my outside, indicating right... "Grand," I thought, she's going to the third exit. Unfortunately not! We both took off almost the same time, she was slightly ahead, coming up to the second exit she "lashes on the indicator" as the OP might say and just pulls into my lane... Meanwhile another lady driver enters the roundabout from the first exit (from my perspective) right in front of me! I had to jam on the brakes to avoid both of them, had I not I would have been the meat in a not-so-tasty sandwich!

God it angers me sooo much that people cannot use proper lanes on round abouts..

Also on approach to a roundabout, two lanes (merging together on the other side)- both marked with a straight ahead arrow, even though when you learn to drive you're told to stay in the left for straight ahead!!
I do so but get angry looks on the other side of the roundabout from people on the inside of me!!

robtri

aido 1976 wrote: »

She was in the RH lane, I was in the LH lane. She basically wanted to go straight through the roundabout, so she should have being in the LH lane.

not necessarily so...
and anyway you where in the wrong lane completley, you where probably more at fault then her

aido 1976

This is kind of turning into a discussion about roundabouts, OK I hold my hand up I may have being partly to blame in the roundabout incident, but certainly not in the other two incidents.

My point is realy about the indicator being lashed on and out they come without a care, and the give you the blast of the horn, the dirty looks and the finger.

-Corkie-

corktina wrote: »

it reads to me as if she was in the RH lane taking the second exit (OK so back to the mway but that doesnt make it wrong) on a 2 lane roundabout meaning she was in the correct lane (or could have been the other one, doesnt matter) and the OP was in the completely wrong lane.

Thats true there is a many bad men drivers and i am male btw. I see it every day driving god help some of the poor souls roung kanturk and newmarket if they were trying to go round the bleeding ballmun roundabout;);)

inforfun

aido 1976 wrote: »

I really think somebody is out to get me today........

3 times today I had other drivers (All Women) try and run me off the road.

1> This morning, M50 Ballymun roundabout. Heading North
I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right/take the third exit. Indicated etc. The car that was in the right lane coming off the motorway suddenly decides lash on the indicator and make for the front/side of me in an attempt to shoot back onto the motorway. And she lashes on the horn.

I stopped reading after this.
I really dont think you are in the position to criticize others when you pull a stunt like that yourself.

I am so happy that on my daily drive work/home they got rid off 2 roundabouts. The amount of people who think it is perfectly ok to go for the 3rd exit when they are in the left lane is astonishing.

aido 1976

SARASON wrote: »

Thats true there is a many bad men drivers and i am male btw. I see it every day driving god help some of the poor souls roung kanturk and newmarket if they were trying to go round the bleeding ballmun roundabout;);)

I am not bashing lady drivers, I know well there are many effin idiot male drivers too.

I will be down Kanturk way in early april and I will be driving. Better get the old motor armour plated so :):)

KerranJast

Correct me if I'm wrong but in most (if not all) two lane in-two lane out roundabouts, the left lane is marked as left and straight ahead; the right lane is marked as straight ahead and right. Therefore the other driver was perfectly entitled to exit straight ahead in the right lane and if the OP tried to cut across to take the 3rd exit he was totally in the wrong.

aido 1976

KerranJast wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but in most (if not all) two lane in-two lane out roundabouts, the left lane is marked as left and straight ahead; the right lane is marked as straight ahead and right. Therefore the other driver was perfectly entitled to exit straight ahead in the right lane and if the OP tried to cut across to take the 3rd exit he was totally in the wrong.

Like I said this is turning into an issue about roundabouts, read previous posts

n0brain3r

aido 1976 wrote: »

1> This morning, M50 Ballymun roundabout. Heading North
I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right/take the third exit. Indicated etc. The car that was in the right lane coming off the motorway suddenly decides lash on the indicator and make for the front/side of me in an attempt to shoot back onto the motorway. And she lashes on the horn.

To be fair aren't some of the roundabouts on the M50 exits marked like this left lane is for left/straight ahead and third exit where two lanes lead off the exit? Right lane is for the third exit plus? The lane markings indicate so and should be obeyed over the standard r/about rules?

testarossa40

aido 1976 wrote: »

OK kazul, I may have being in the wrong lane, but she got off the motorway along with me, me in the left and she in the right. and then she decides NO she wants to go back onto the motorway, lashes on the indicator and just pulls out.

And your point is what, exactly? So what if she rejoined the motorway - did she break a "Stop" or "No Way Through" sign or something? :rolleyes:

Look, you were in the in the wrong. Say "Doh!", be glad you didn't cause an accident, learn, & move on. Allow me to refresh what you should already know from the Rules of Road:

Going straight ahead:

"Stay in the left-hand lane, but do not indicate "left" until you have passed the first exit. Where conditions dictate otherwise, you may follow the course shown by the broken red line."

Notice from the straight ahead instructions how your lady driver friend was in fact quite correct to only "lash" on her indicators when she did - ie once past the 1st exit. You would have had no issue with this if you had been in the correct lane for a 3rd exit. And before you argue, conditions that could dictate going straight ahead from the 2nd lane could include queuing in both lanes due to high traffic volume.

Leaving by a later exit

"Stay in the right-hand lane, indicate right on your approach and maintain this signal until you have passed the exit before the one you intend to take. Then change to the "left" turn indicator."

So by maintaining position in the left-hand lane when intending to take the 3rd exit you were always likely to interfere with another car legitimately going straight ahead.

In relation to the other 2 examples, on face value I would ordinarily have some sympathy but can't help thinking given your indicated basic & serious error in roundabout discipline whether you were in fact completely blame-free in either incident?

aido 1976

testarossa40 wrote: »

And your point is what, exactly? So what if she rejoined the motorway - did she break a "Stop" or "No Way Through" sign or something? :rolleyes:

Look, you were in the in the wrong. Say "Doh!", be glad you didn't cause an accident, learn, & move on. Allow me to refresh what you should already know from the Rules of Road:

Going straight ahead:

"Stay in the left-hand lane, but do not indicate "left" until you have passed the first exit. Where conditions dictate otherwise, you may follow the course shown by the broken red line."

Notice for the straight ahead instructions your lady driver friend was quite correct to "lash" on her indicators when she did. And before you argue, conditions that could dictate going straight ahead from the 2nd lane could include queuing in both lanes due to high traffic volume.

Leaving by a later exit

"Stay in the right-hand lane, indicate right on your approach and maintain this signal until you have passed the exit before the one you intend to take. Then change to the "left" turn indicator."

So by maintaining position in the left-hand lane when intending to take the 3rd exit you were always likely to interfere with another car legitimately going straight ahead.

In relation to the other 2 examples, on face value I would ordinarily have some sympathy but can't help thinking given your indicated basic & serious error in roundabout discipline whether you were in fact completely blame-free in either incident?

You obviously don't know the Ballymun exit, and as for your little illustrations---Good googling. You have being the first to be rude well done. AND READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS. MR FERRARI

testarossa40

aido 1976 wrote: »

You obviously don't know the Ballymun exit, and as for your little illustrations---Good googling. You have being the first to be rude well done. AND READ THE PREVIOUS POSTS. MR FERRARI

I'm quite sure I have not been rude. Pointed & direct? Yes. On the other hand I say very "rude" things in my car on a daily basis when witnessing bad roundabout driving in front or beside me, Mr Aido.

aido 1976

testarossa40 wrote: »

I'm quite sure I have not been rude. Pointed & direct? Yes. On the other hand I say very "rude" things in my car on a daily basis when witnessing bad roundabout driving in front or beside me, Mr Aido.[/QUOTE

Look, you were in the in the wrong. Say "Doh!", be glad you didn't cause an accident, learn, & move on. Allow me to refresh what you should already know from the Rules of Road:
IMO that is rude

aido 1976

testarossa40 wrote: »

I'm quite sure I have not been rude. Pointed & direct? Yes. On the other hand I say very "rude" things in my car on a daily basis when witnessing bad roundabout driving in front or beside me, Mr Aido.

And read the previous posts

slimjimmc

The incidents detailed in the original post are 3 classic examples where a driver (ladies in this case) changes lane without first ensuring is it safe to do so. It's irrelevant who was in which lane because this rule is paramount everywhere i.e. on the circular lanes of a roundabout and the linear lanes of other roads.

That, and the late indicating occurs everywhere and is a regular occurance across genders, age, colour, creed, hairstyle, car/suv, etc, etc so OP although you weren't targetted for nullification the chances are you'll see more of it.

aido 1976

slimjimmc wrote: »

The incidents detailed in the original post are 3 classic examples where a driver (ladies in this case) changes lane without first ensuring is it safe to do so. It's irrelevant who was in which lane because this rule is paramount everywhere i.e. on the circular lanes of a roundabout and the linear lanes of other roads.

That, and the late indicating occurs everywhere and is a regular occurance across genders, age, colour, creed, hairstyle, car/suv, etc, etc so OP although you weren't targetted for nullification the chances are you'll see more of it.

Thank you slimjimmc, you explained it better than I could

fullstop

aido 1976 wrote: »

2> M50 again heading south bound.
Driving along in the over taking lane (Not hogging the lane....overtaking) just past the Lucan exit. Lady driver 05 Black BMW convertable decided, lash on the indicator and again just starts pulling right, this time I hit the horn and the breaks, she cops on that I was there and voilently pulls back into her own lane. And gives me the dirty look.

aido 1976 wrote: »

Funny enough Stekelly, the driver of the BMW, after realising her mistake and voilently pulling back into her own lane, just clutched onto the stearing wheel as if it was going to run away and stared straight ahead, she didn't even glance as I passed her.

So did she give you a dirty look or did she stare straight ahead and not even glance at you :rolleyes:

aido 1976

fullstop wrote: »

So did she give you a dirty look or did she stare straight ahead and not even glance at you :rolleyes:

Dirty look in the mirror and as I passed her she stare straight ahead, thnks for pointing that out Fullstop. I will amend my post to make this point clearer.

fullstop

aido 1976 wrote: »

Dirty look in the mirror and as I passed her she stare straight ahead, thnks for pointing that out Fullstop. I will amend my post to make this point clearer.

LOL. Seems like you're making this up as you go.

D_murph

I cant say I'm surprised really TBH. Any time I am about to overtake a car that is behind another vehicle on a dual carriageway, I am always expecting them to shoot out in front of me at the last second and they do most of the time :mad:.

Rear view mirrors could be optional on cars at times as it is quite obvious that some people do not use them :rolleyes:.

aido 1976

fullstop wrote: »

LOL. Seems like you're making this up as you go.

LOL here we go the non beliver. It happened mate. I am sorry I have not reported a Garda standard report, and narrowed it down to split second details. I am narrowing it down to basics.

fullstop

aido 1976 wrote: »

LOL here we go the non beliver. It happened mate. I am sorry I have not reported a Garda standard report, and narrowed it down to split second details. I am narrowing it down to basics.

Well as pointed out by several other people, you were in the wrong in the first incident....which loses a bit of credibility for you.

simoniz

Just drive carefully next time

aido 1976

simoniz wrote: »

As my observation lady driver is much careless than man, i have many experience and since then every time I'm passing a women driving I'm very careful and next is taxi driver.

Agree, Totally

aido 1976

fullstop wrote: »

Well as pointed out by several other people, you were in the wrong in the first incident....which loses a bit of credibility for you.

Read the earlier posts and you will see, that I am not either right or wrong. I am not trying to slate lady drivers and I agree that male drivers are or can be as bad. I am meerly making a point. Don't get so hung up on this. I'm not. Simply a thread on getting others opinion. Plaese read and understand my previous posts.

LinHaX

aido 1976 wrote: »

Ladies please take note: Indicators are a signal of intent not right of way.

That`s the good one mate I am lucky enough to live in a small town, with just few roundabouts and only one two-laned road

aido 1976

LinHaX wrote: »

That`s the good one mate I am lucky enough to live in a small town, with just few roundabouts and only one two-laned road

Happens alot in Dublin, just today it seemed to be out of control, maybe just me but today was just the icing on the cake. I do alot of driving for a living and never came across it before. Its just happend to be lady drivers.

My wife drives and if I taught she was up to this sort of thing, I would take the keys of the car away from her.

Lucky you, that you don't have to deal with this crap.

jimmycrackcorm

aido 1976 wrote: »

My wife drives and if I taught she was up to this sort of thing, I would take the keys of the car away from her.

I.d pay good money to see that happen.

Scottie99

aido 1976 wrote: »

1> This morning, M50 Ballymun roundabout. Heading North
I got off the motorway approched the 2 lane r/bout in the left lane intending to turn right/take the third exit. Indicated etc. The car that was in the right lane coming off the motorway suddenly decides lash on the indicator and make for the front/side of me in an attempt to shoot back onto the motorway. And she lashes on the horn.

That was the lady driver in the 03 blue Passat.

Don't the new gantry signs tell people to use the left lane? Its says City Centre. I'm just pointing out a fact:D