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Vibration Plate

  • 09-03-2010 7:29pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭


    I'm hearing so much about this so called Wondering Tool, the new all in one gym, but can this
    Vibration Plate

    be any good? those it do what it says on the box? i was looking at them on youtube and showing you what does what, do this to work the back, do this to work the chest etc etc. does anyone use them or have one and what do they think of them? are they worth the money and time?
    While still going to the gym?


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 345 ✭✭justindublin


    My Mum and a few of her mates got recommended by them at weight watchers and swears by them! I got curious and gave one a go, I'd be lying if I said I didnt feel it afterwards. Jury is still out tho... :rolleyes:

    Most chartbusters shops do them so might as well give it a go and see how ya feel afterwards, think its fairly cheap too so no harm I guess unless someone thinks otherwise here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    They fail my general test for things I haven't researched: I've never seen someone in remotely decent shape use one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,639 ✭✭✭PeakOutput


    my brothers upper legs were very weak after he broke his ankle and his physio gave him one of these for a few weeks to do squats on an stuff he said it helped him alot and he could really feel the difference

    i heard they are great for doms aswell

    i wouldnt be using it as a complete home gym however


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,589 ✭✭✭JJayoo


    You can rent them

    Why not rent one for 2 or three weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,900 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Sangre wrote: »
    They fail my general test for things I haven't researched: I've never seen someone in remotely decent shape use one.

    That's pretty stupid logic. They obviously appeal to people who are very out of shape.


    I'm not commenting on how good or bad they are, I don't know. Just on your logic of dismissing them.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,186 ✭✭✭✭Sangre


    Mellor wrote: »
    That's pretty stupid logic. They obviously appeal to people who are very out of shape.


    I'm not commenting on how good or bad they are, I don't know. Just on your logic of dismissing them.
    Yes, they appeal to them because they're seen as quick fixes where you can avoid putting effort in. If they were actually a welcome addition to a training programme in-shape people would use them.

    Hardly perfect logic but its a pretty good screening test when its comes to the latest fad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    I know some one that is going renting one. I did weight training 4 days a week but looking at it to give my core extra work out I heard it is great for the core.

    Aswell as that looking to tone the cheat up even more.

    They are what people thing lazy mans workout. You can't beat going out walking the dogs or even a 30jog or swim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Moman


    Thought they were mainly used as a "non impact" way of warming up?
    Often seen football teams on TV using them before a match


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,663 ✭✭✭Cork24


    Well it shakes the hell out of you. You can stand on it sit on it knee on it works out different parts of the body. But is shaking so much you body is really going into overdrive to keep your body level so your muscles are losing tighting this in turn is burning fat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41 Moman


    dont let the adds fool you, shaking doesnt burn fat,
    cardio ,basic weights, good nutrition will though, cant see it as any better than a warm up process myself


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Cork24 wrote: »
    Well it shakes the hell out of you. You can stand on it sit on it knee on it works out different parts of the body. But is shaking so much you body is really going into overdrive to keep your body level so your muscles are losing tighting this in turn is burning fat.

    Sure just stand on your washing machine and put on a spin cycle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,027 ✭✭✭flywheel


    Sangre wrote: »
    If they were actually a welcome addition to a training programme in-shape people would use them...

    I'd have used an i.Tonic in the past for post workout recovery and working on flexibility and found it beneficial... have also used it for what they term 'integrated sessions' where you use it to peform an exercise then perform the same exercise off the device with resistance (e.g. a squat) and it can deliver an intensive session...



    getting back to the original poster's question this artice is an interesting read for anyone who is looking for some well presented information on Whole Body Vibration (WBV) Training:
    Good Vibrations - (Chartered Society of Physiotherapy UK)

    and for the comedians... the vibration frequency and amplitude produced by a whole body vibration plate is not the same as that produced by a washing machine, hence one is used in the exercise/rehab industry and the other is used to wash your clothes - just an FYI ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Powerplate


    Sangre wrote: »
    If they were actually a welcome addition to a training programme in-shape people would use them.

    Would you say that professional athletes from squash, soccer, American football and basketball are "in-shape people"? I would.

    “I have set up The Lifestyle Institute where I will be creating studios which will incorporate the Power Plate. That is to the extent I believe in the Power Plate. Everyone should be using them and if they get half the results I got, it will be life changing!”
    - Peter Nichol, world squash champion

    “The Power Plate® pro5 meets our requirements for our training equipment to be functional, but aesthetically appealing to encourage players to use it. Indeed, the simplicity of the set up and ease of use allows Manchester United players and staff to quick start and change the frequency and intensity of vibrations with minimum supervision.”
    - Rob Swire, Head Physiotherapist, Manchester United Football Club


    "The Green Bay Packers enthusiastically endorse the use of Power Plate technology. Our players recognize the benefits of the machine during their initial experience. My staff and I recommend that the Power Plate be utilized as during the weight training workout as part of the warm-up and cool down. Both sessions include a number of static and dynamic stretching exercises that aid in preparation to the workout performance or to jump start the recovery process. A nine movement menu is posted for the team members to follow with little if any supervision required. The players are focused and quick to buy onto the theory of concentrating on stability while balancing on the vibrating platform. The Packers will continue to move forward with new ways to incorporate Power Plate technology as we search for the best training methods available today.“
    -Rock Gullickson, Strength and Conditioning Coach, Green Bay Packers

    “I have found Power Plate® an easy piece of equipment to integrate into our conditioning and prevention protocols. The players feel that it helps them to lift better before Olympic lifting, and it is used as part of our prevention/ proprioception circuit before training”
    - Rob Brinded, Conditioning & Rehabilitation Coach, Chelsea Football Club

    “Power Plate has become an important training and injury/rehab device for the Chicago Bulls. Power Plate has proven to be a very effective and popular training modality with our players and has demonstrated impressive results even after a short period of use - increasing their strength, flexibility, metabolism and circulation. All of our players are reaping benefits from using the Power Plate - improving their speed/quickness, jumping ability, balance and coordination. As Kurt Heinrich – a big fan of the Power Plate says: ‘you can feel stiff as a board but, you stretch on the machine and you feel loose instantly.’ I think that says it all. The Chicago Bulls fully endorse this product and have machines both at our headquarters – the Berto Center and at the United Center.”
    Eric Helland, Conditioning & Rehabilitation Coach, NBA Chicago Bulls

    “The positive research and acceptance by athletes, and coaches confirm Acceleration Training is integral to sports performance methodology. We have found Power Plate to be the absolute leader in enhancing acceleration through vibration training. Power Plate is the only choice for the elite athlete population as it works in multiple planes and dimensions of motion; has engineering solutions to create equality for all athletes plus the ability to safely and naturally progress and improve performance by adding external load. We use one Power Plate for every Power Rack at Athletes Performance enabling us to use across our methodology from high performance to medical rehabilitation and regeneration. The Power Plate philosophy and commitment to education, research, engineering and thorough customer service is second to none. Do your due diligence and you too, will be convinced Power Plate is the best resource to meet your programs and athlete’s needs!”
    -Mark Verstegen, Founder of Athlete’s Performance


  • Subscribers Posts: 19,425 ✭✭✭✭Oryx


    Of course in shape people will use them, or at least the better versions of them. Its when they are touted as a means to 'get the body you always wanted, no effort, in 10 mins a day!!!!' or sold as something 'that works your body like 30mins of running!' that its turned into a fad.

    Id say if you train properly in other areas these things can be a useful addition, but they wont do much for you if you just stand on them once a day, and expect your body to change without doing anything else to up your fitness, or improve your diet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Powerplate


    Oryx wrote: »
    Its when they are touted as a means to 'get the body you always wanted, no effort, in 10 mins a day!!!!'

    There is of course LOTS of effort involved in a Power Plate workout. Sometimes people come for a workout with us and are disappointed when they find out that there's actually hard work involved! They expected to just stand on the machine, have us press a few buttons and magically provide them with the body of their dreams. :rolleyes:

    While our workouts typically last 25 minutes, most people are dying after 10 minutes of leg work. We then switch to abdominal/lower back, followed by upper body to finish. It's much much tougher than it looks - you really have to do a workout to realise this.
    Oryx wrote: »
    or sold as something 'that works your body like 30mins of running!' that its turned into a fad.

    Well, the effects of Power Plate training are more comparable to that of conventional weight training. The difference is your loading the body with acceleration, rather than added mass. For most people, their bodyweight is more than enough mass. For the elite athletes we train (triathletes, squash & rugby players), we add dumbbells, barbells and kettlebells to their bodyweight, which is a total killer.
    Oryx wrote: »
    they wont do much for you if you just stand on them once a day

    For the most part, you're constantly moving throughout the workout, using bodyweight exercises like press ups, squats and lunges. The only time you're "still" is when you're doing static holds. They're actually the toughest ones to do.

    If anyone has any questions, I'd be delighted to answer them :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭discus


    Those testimonials you posted are great, can you tell me which of those teams don't have sponsorship or commercial deals with powerplate dealers??

    To be honest, you'll be hard pressed to convinve people that what you sell is any more than a piece of ****.

    For the 'elite' atheletes you train, does this come as supplementary work or as the main body of their S&C programmes? Also, can you tell us any names, or at least what teams they are on, or levels they are competing at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,550 ✭✭✭curly from cork


    powerplate
    where are you based please?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭d-gal


    Powerplate wrote: »
    There is of course LOTS of effort involved in a Power Plate workout. Sometimes people come for a workout with us and are disappointed when they find out that there's actually hard work involved! They expected to just stand on the machine, have us press a few buttons and magically provide them with the body of their dreams. :rolleyes:

    While our workouts typically last 25 minutes, most people are dying after 10 minutes of leg work. We then switch to abdominal/lower back, followed by upper body to finish. It's much much tougher than it looks - you really have to do a workout to realise this.

    Well, the effects of Power Plate training are more comparable to that of conventional weight training. The difference is your loading the body with acceleration, rather than added mass. For most people, their bodyweight is more than enough mass. For the elite athletes we train (triathletes, squash & rugby players), we add dumbbells, barbells and kettlebells to their bodyweight, which is a total killer.

    For the most part, you're constantly moving throughout the workout, using bodyweight exercises like press ups, squats and lunges. The only time you're "still" is when you're doing static holds. They're actually the toughest ones to do.

    If anyone has any questions, I'd be delighted to answer them :)

    I am all for using power plates for warm ups and cool downs, they are fantastic for DOMs...but what you are after saying is an absolute load of crock! You cannot compare it to conventional weight training, its nowhere near as effective as it, every honest athlete will tell you that.
    Now before you say 'look at what rugby/squash/soccer players say'...they hype up the power plate as a great recovery, not for weight training (no S&C will use it instead of weight training or part of weight training). Plus all the added hype is endorsed with a bit of extra sponsorship, hell I am pretty sure I could get 10 of the best athletes in Ireland to say I am the best S&C coach around if I offered them enough incentives!
    At the end of it all it's a relatively decent machine for warm ups, cool downs and general recovery but it's just a gimmick in other aspects. Nothing will beat basic conventional weight training, fact


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Powerplate wrote: »
    Would you say that professional athletes from squash, soccer, American football and basketball are "in-shape people"? I would.

    And how did they get that way? Certainly not thanks to using the power plate.


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