Fight in Cruises St.

Shammy

Missus just rang me saying there are huge crowds in crusies st along with numorous squad cars and paddy wagons , any one know what happened ?

PeteSanchez

McDonalds giving free Pimp Canes with every Big Mac Meal ?

Reaganomical

Yeah, some disgrace. I only caught the end of it. There was a crowd of about 200 people standing around outside HMV...I thought there must have been an acoustic performance by some band.

Nope.

About 10knick-knacks roaring at each other, couldn't make out what they were screaming, the feral beasts don't really speak coherently at the best of times. There was one guy on the ground getting a bit of a shoeing from one of the "women". The Gardai came along and caught a hold of a few of them.

Wonderful advert for our city - brawling along our main shopping street at 1.30 on a Tuesday.

It was interesting to watch all the passers-by having a gawk.

phill106

Most likely be on youtube in an hour, and then on the nightly news!
Special report, gangwarfare on the streets of limerick!
or something to that outlandish effect.

John_Mc

So happy I got the f*ck out of Limerick, crazy sh*t!

Persiancowboy

Ah yes.....consistency in a world gone mad........you can always rely on these crowd of scobes to make an exhibition of themselves on a regular basis.

It was interesting to watch all the passers-by having a gawk.[/QUOTE]

PeteSanchez

phill106 wrote: »

Most likely be on youtube in an hour, and then on the nightly news!
Special report, gangwarfare on the streets of limerick!
or something to that outlandish effect.

And rightly so!!!
if there was 200 people standing watching a fight on our main shopping street at 1pm on a tuesday then that WARRANTS being on the news and reported.....

Do you think it doesnt???

concussion

It would be worse if it was such a common occurrance that people didn't bother to stop. Or post it on boards...

crispsandwiches

willie o dea was droping some rhymes


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4ure_GSHw

Raiser

Love Limerick.



Love Mortal Kombat.

mark1974

200 people on Cruises Street.

Maybe they should have fights more often. The traders where complaining about footfall on Cruises Street last week.

Watch a good fight then do a bit of shopping.:rolleyes:

TestTransmission

ah feck,how did I miss this today

krudler

Ah how did i miss this, I saw the paddy wagon and a squad car down by the curch near Icon, hadnt been down Cruises st then though

RonMexico

Passed Henry street around 3pm and there was a big argument outside between a few guys and girls with two gardai trying to sort it out. Then as I passed the Chicken Hut around 3.30pm there was a guy and a girl outside and the girls face was covered in blood.

This city has gone to $hit. No visible garda presence unless hordes are beating the crap out of each other.

The Blonde One

It was crazy!! Thought it was just scobes roaring at each other until it turned into a brawl. Cruises street was empty, then like schnellimbiss said, about 200 people appeared from nowhere to watch. It did not make for pleasant lunchtime entertainment.

Raiser

RonMexico wrote: »

Passed Henry street around 3pm and there was a big argument outside between a few guys and girls with two gardai trying to sort it out. Then as I passed the Chicken Hut around 3.30pm there was a guy and a girl outside and the girls face was covered in blood.

This city has gone to $hit. No visible garda presence unless hordes are beating the crap out of each other.

There's 634 Gardaí assigned to the Limerick region - Advanced Hide and Seek skills, Ninja stealth and camouflage essentials must be a part of the mandatory training in Templemore......

concussion

Raiser wrote: »

There's 634 Gardaí assigned to the Limerick region - Advanced Hide and Seek skills, Ninja stealth and camouflage essentials must be a part of the mandatory training in Templemore......

Qualify your figures. Limerick Garda Division covers all of Limerick County and some of County Clare. Thats 634 Gardaí to cover a large geographical area 24 hours a day while absorbing ime off, sick leave, statutory holidays, court attendance etc etc.

Raiser

concussion wrote: »

Qualify your figures. Limerick Garda Division covers all of Limerick County and some of County Clare. Thats 634 Gardaí to cover a large geographical area 24 hours a day while absorbing ime off, sick leave, statutory holidays, court attendance etc etc.

Lol - I'm off is right!!! I'm off to the Statoil for a Breakfast Roll and then I'm going to sit in the Clare Hills listening to Newstalk all day in a Squad Car paid for by you and me, passing time paid for by you and me.

- Why do you want me to qualify this? Are you disputing my figures? I tell you in good faith that I read it in the print media within the past two weeks and was staggered at the sheer numbers involved given their invisibility, horrific detection rate, feeble advice where the victim is usually found to be somehow to blame for the crime perpetrated against them and their general demonstration of poor form over the past decade.

Its also funny that you mention sick leave, because the Gardaí are Stellar, 24 Carat Gold Olympic Champions once it comes to Duvet Days..... Going by the current form indicators there must be ~597 of them watching Oprah in their fluffy, 100% cotton, Jimmy-jammies most days in the week.

- Finally no amount of etc. etc.'s tacked clumsily onto any post is going to justify 634 Gardaí who may as well be stationed in Adelaide for all the good they are doing around here - and its not even as though they are trying their hardest and failing; They just stopped trying full stop at some point and there's no going back under the present Leadership/Ethos/Mindset....

concussion

I said qualify your figures because you complained that there were no Gardai present today despite the fact that there being over 600 working.

This is patently untrue as that is the total strength for the entire Division. With a three shift rotation thats 200 on duty at any time...for the entire county. Accounting for their days off, time off etc there are fewer again on duty at any time in the county. That's why I said qualify your figures. Unless you expect the 634 Gardai, Sergeants, Detectives, Inspectors and Superintendants working in the county to be on duty in the city centre at the same time?

flutered

The Blonde One wrote: »

It was crazy!! Thought it was just scobes roaring at each other until it turned into a brawl. Cruises street was empty, then like schnellimbiss said, about 200 people appeared from nowhere to watch. It did not make for pleasant lunchtime entertainment.

rent a crowd ?

Raiser

concussion wrote: »

I said qualify your figures because you complained that there were no Gardai present today despite the fact that there being over 600 working.

This is patently untrue as that is the total strength for the entire Division. With a three shift rotation thats 200 on duty at any time...for the entire county. Accounting for their days off, time off etc there are fewer again on duty at any time in the county. That's why I said qualify your figures. Unless you expect the 634 Gardai, Sergeants, Detectives, Inspectors and Superintendants working in the county to be on duty in the city centre at the same time?

I think the facts don't quite coincide with your assertion - To be more precise, I never complained that there were no Gardaí present today and additionally I was never under the impression, or tried to lead anyone else to the conclusion that all of our Shy Gardaí are on duty all of the time (???)

- For you to subsequently claim that I did is at best misguided and at worst a diversionary Straw Man tactic.....

My main point of contention is that given the relatively high amount of Gardaí in the region generally, allowing for sick leave, special leave, overtime allowance leave, veterinary leave and missing socks leave - why don't we ever see them and why don't they ever produce any results?

- The obvious exception being we we do frequently see them hiding under a flyover on an immaculate stretch of dual-carriage way pointing at Speed Trap Gun at us and smirking lazily, or drinking Barry's tea and peering at tax discs and down Yummy Mummies cleavage outside Tescos......

concussion

Sure, whatever you say. I maintain my postion despite you're attempts to divert attention with your straw-man allegations. One poster said there's no visible Garda presence and you jumped straight in talking about the hundreds practicing their ninja skills without any mention of how many are actually on duty at any one time in Henry Street.

The funny thing is, I do believe that there need to be more Gardaí on the streets, patrolling, observing and being in contact with the public. However, their hands are tied by restrictive staffing levels and the large area they need to cover. Perhaps one of our resident Gardaí will add his opinions here, I don't know what figures are publically available about numbers operating in the city centre.

The Traffic Corps are responsible for speed enforcement and don't patrol or respond to emergency calls with the unit on duty. But you know this already, don't you?

zuroph

I can't see any reason to go to the city centre any more, except perhaps a quick run into Brown Thomas for the GF, or lunch in the Wild onion.

The Blonde One

flutered wrote: »

rent a crowd ?

Haha! Maybe!

Mr E

Laydeegaga - if you want a long life on this forum, stop posting crap. Post deleted.

krudler

Raiser wrote: »

There's 634 Gardaí assigned to the Limerick region - Advanced Hide and Seek skills, Ninja stealth and camouflage essentials must be a part of the mandatory training in Templemore......

Now now, they're out ruthlessly hunting the true scourge of society, out of date car tax drivers! dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!

Brave souls the lot of them

Raiser

krudler wrote: »

Now now, they're out ruthlessly hunting the true scourge of society, out of date car tax drivers! dun dun dunnnnnnnnn!

Brave souls the lot of them

To be honest - I probably should have said this earlier, cause there is undoubtedly sincere Folk in the Ranks.......

I do sincerely have the utmost respect for any Garda out there who puts in the hours in an often-times (usually I suppose) thankless job, has ideals, serves his or her Community and suffers the filth of Society to put bread on the Family Table. I am disgusted when I hear of Ambulance Crews, Firefighters or Gardaí being targeted by the Scum bobbing in our ugly gene pool.

- I honestly think that their worst Enemy is the cynical Members of An Garda Siochana who are happy to cash the cheque and turn both eyes blindly in two different directions, they are the ones bringing the whole lot down from its rotten insides.

concussion

Their worst enemy is the government who won't give them the resources to do the job.

RonMexico

I don't have a problem with the Gardai. They have $hit thankless job dealing with the scum of the earth day-in-day out. I do however have a problem with politicians and the Garda commissioner bleating to the media about how many Gardai are assigned to Limerick and blah blah blah. A blind dog can see that Limerick City has a major problem regarding a visible Garda presence, not just at night but now also during the day.

Can the last person to leave please turn out the lights, before the bulbs are robbed.

krudler

Take a walk up O'Connell St,any hour of any day of the week, and you'll RARELY ever see garda either walking a beat or even just standing around being a visible presence. Same as a Saturday night, I lived in a city centre apartment overlooking a busy street for years and you rarely ever saw guards, saw plenty of fights though. But go down to any of the petrol stations on the dock road on a Sat night and you'll always see at least 2 squad cars parked outside and the lads in there getting coffee

TEMPLAR KNIGHT

krudler wrote: »

Take a walk up O'Connell St,any hour of any day of the week, and you'll RARELY ever see garda either walking a beat or even just standing around being a visible presence. Same as a Saturday night, I lived in a city centre apartment overlooking a busy street for years and you rarely ever saw guards, saw plenty of fights though. But go down to any of the petrol stations on the dock road on a Sat night and you'll always see at least 2 squad cars parked outside and the lads in there getting coffee

so true

Casperbhoy

Thats very true. Ant time I stop in there for petrol. There is always a garda car there...

Our tax euros at work:mad:

concussion

Do you all realise that Gardaí don't have a set break while on duty and have to grab food when they can? And that the staffing limits placed on them means they have a massive geographical area to cover with a handful of Gardaí? As a result they can't be walking the streets because they can get called to Raheen, Castletroy, Corbally etc etc.

There is a serious issue with the the level of visible policing but this idea that they do nothing but eat breakfast rolls and look down womens tops at checkpoints is fallacious and petty. If you have a problem with how policing is conducted, contact your TD. Contact the opposition aswell and get a question put in the Dáil as to the allocation of funding and personell for the Limerick Division. This forum is nothing but bitching and whining, nothing is going to get solved by putting it on Boards, contact the people in charge and tell them your grievances.

laydeegaga

Methinks there is a visible garda presence here on Boards....moonlighting in a covert way...:D

concussion

I'm not, nor ever have been, a member of An Garda Siochána. However, I know several and have seen how constrained they are in the discharge of their duties.

Harpy

concussion wrote: »

Do you all realise that Gardaí don't have a set break while on duty and have to grab food when they can? And that the staffing limits placed on them means they have a massive geographical area to cover with a handful of Gardaí? As a result they can't be walking the streets because they can get called to Raheen, Castletroy, Corbally etc etc.

There is a serious issue with the the level of visible policing but this idea that they do nothing but eat breakfast rolls and look down womens tops at checkpoints is fallacious and petty. If you have a problem with how policing is conducted, contact your TD. Contact the opposition aswell and get a question put in the Dáil as to the allocation of funding and personell for the Limerick Division. This forum is nothing but bitching and whining, nothing is going to get solved by putting it on Boards, contact the people in charge and tell them your grievances.

I was just thinking the same thing but wasn't sure if i was right about them having no set breaks..also im pretty sure at night as well they have to cover a lot of co.Limerick as well like out the country which stretches their resources even more..

grenache

krudler wrote: »

But go down to any of the petrol stations on the dock road on a Sat night and you'll always see at least 2 squad cars parked outside and the lads in there getting coffee

They positively live at Topaz beside Mount Kenneth don't they. Anytime i pull in to get petrol, they are there.

RonMexico

They Gardai are entitled to have a lunchbreak just like everyone else lads FFS.

Topaz stations are handy hence why you see them there a lot.

I think it is fair to criticize how the Gardai are deployed in Limerick but having a go at them for stuff like this is silly.

homerhop

ah but isnt it a typical Irish attitude, they are bstrds for doing their job and useless fkrs for not being on every street corner at the click of a finger. Me thinks some of the folks watched to much batman episodes, perhaps the city council should have spent the tax payers money on the bat signal rather than a escape artist christmas tree :rolleyes:

clint_eastman

wow....guards going to a petrol station for grub on their break and they are considered to "live" there....maybe they were getting petrol, maybe they're entitled to have a break, maybe its not the same 2 guards that are there evertyday for the duration of their shift..... really guys, I don't think discussing guards going to petrol stations/delis for food even warrants a thread reply. I am not a guard.

TestTransmission

clint_eastman wrote: »

wow....guards going to a petrol station for grub on their break and they are considered to "live" there....maybe they were getting petrol, maybe they're entitled to have a break, maybe its not the same 2 guards that are there evertyday for the duration of their shift..... really guys, I don't think discussing guards going to petrol stations/delis for food even warrants a thread reply. I am not a guard.

I see 4 guards having a "coffee" in a petrol station very regularly,seems like a bit of a waste of resources

clint_eastman

As regularly as most people go for or take their coffee break, I wonder? Lets write a strongly worded letter to Factna on this coffee break scourge thats seems to be getting up peoples noses.

Keano

clint_eastman wrote: »

As regularly as most people go for or take their coffee break, I wonder? Lets write a strongly worded letter to Factna on this coffee break scourge thats seems to be getting up peoples noses.

I'll sign that letter too, sure will you put down on it that they shouldn't be entitled to holidays as well.

Raiser

concussion wrote: »

I'm not, nor ever have been, a member of An Garda Siochána. However, I know several and have seen how constrained they are in the discharge of their duties.

Garda bashing for the sake of it is only going to píss People of without getting anyone anywhere.

- I think the above comment is fair and balanced; People in Limerick have become aware of a problem and its being voiced more and more frequently that our Streets are not being adequately Policed.

I really don't think you can blame any Garda for this but the whole system needs to be looked at very carefully and prob. rebuilt from the ground up.

- I have a feeling that the very top level Gardaí are next to being indistinguishable from any Fianna Fail Politician you can think of in terms of empty promises, covering their fat arsés and focussing only on their paypacket and career prospects.

Its the ordinary Garda then who has to take the abuse from the People when the whole system has produced fcuk all of any worth or substance.

- Also I've read on here countless times how the Judiciary seem to exist to put Scum back on the Streets as quickly as they can - Practically every time I read a Judges closing comments on a case I am staggered by how dated, irrelevant, clueless, sexist, bizarre and out of touch they seem.....It can't be Alzeimers in every case with those Fools can it.....?

krudler

clint_eastman wrote: »

As regularly as most people go for or take their coffee break, I wonder? Lets write a strongly worded letter to Factna on this coffee break scourge thats seems to be getting up peoples noses.

Yeah but this isnt them popping in for a quick bite, its standing in the shop for up to an hour at a time, drove in there to get petrol just after 11 one night, 2 squad cars, 5 guards in there, came back about an hour later as had forgotten to get milk, same 2 cars, same guards still there. This was on a Saturday night as well, why not get a coffee and park on O'Connell st somewhere and drink it? plenty of people who work in offices take coffee breaks while still sitting at their desk, same thing.
Look at the amount of fights and arguments that would be reduced, as well as the standard drunken messing that goes out in the Supermacs area of O'Connell st if a car or wagon was assigned to either just do laps of the street for the hour when nightclubs kick out or just park up somewhere and remain visible. but no, unless theres a massive fight the guards are nowhere to be seen on weekend nights

krudler

Also I've read on here countless times how the Judiciary seem to exist to put Scum back on the Streets as quickly as they can - Practically every time I read a Judges closing comments on a case I am staggered by how dated, irrelevant, clueless, sexist, bizarre and out of touch they seem.....It can't be Alzeimers in every case with those Fools can it.....?

+1 on this

"well the defendant murdered 67 people but as he's clearly sorry and wrote me a lovely letter stating this, plus hes going to give 50 quid to the charity box, ah sure he'll know better next time, off ya run you little scamp!"

Buglim

Off Topic?????:mad: Where is the youtube video???

RonMexico

Was in town today and I have never seen so many Gardai walking around the city. Passed two on O'Connell St. outside Supermacs then spotted two cycling on Thomas Street then another two moving the beggar outside O'Mahoneys. All in the space of about an hour. Clearly the protest by the city traders has resulted in a more visible presence to keep them happy. I just hope they continue this and not allow it to trail off after a few weeks.

krudler

Bout bloody time

munstergirl

Nice to hear, but it was a very sunny day today

Raiser

munstergirl wrote: »

Nice to hear, but it was a very sunny day today

You hinting that they're only fair weather Friends?

- P.S. WTF is the idea of Gardaí on Mountain bikes?

Hardly going to catch a stolen Honda Civic, hardly going to catch most stuff going by appearances????