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Church Singer for a Wedding Waterford/Kilkenny area

  • 01-03-2010 5:31pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭


    Guys n Gals,

    I'm looking for a Church Singer for a Wedding in September time - has anyone got any recommendations ?

    Cheers


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 101 ✭✭kitty_kilkenny


    Caroline Reid O'Brien - fantastic Soprano. might be in phone book. I've heard her sing at a wedding last year
    Junior wrote: »
    Guys n Gals,

    I'm looking for a Church Singer for a Wedding in September time - has anyone got any recommendations ?

    Cheers


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,763 Mod ✭✭✭✭ToxicPaddy


    Donna Roche is supposed to be very good.

    Link here with a sample of her singing..

    Located in Tramore.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,953 ✭✭✭✭kryogen


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    Donna Roche is supposed to be very good.

    Link here with a sample of her singing..

    Located in Tramore.


    Donna is excellent and she is a sound girl also


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭baronflyguy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    Donna Roche is supposed to be very good.

    Link here with a sample of her singing..

    Located in Tramore.
    kryogen wrote: »
    Donna is excellent and she is a sound girl also

    +1 on Donna. She sang at my wedding.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 724 ✭✭✭shapez


    +1 for Donna Roche. She sang at my wedding also. Absolutely fantastic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I'm interested in this myself as it's something myself and mrs ziedth hasn't looked at yet!

    I must look into this donna roache girl. I'm sure there would be no trouble her traveling into the county.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 393 ✭✭beegirl


    +another 1, Donna Roche has a beautiful voice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭gscully


    Ziedth. wrote: »
    I'm interested in this myself as it's something myself and mrs ziedth hasn't looked at yet!

    I must look into this donna roache girl. I'm sure there would be no trouble her traveling into the county.

    None at all. I was at another wedding in The Rower, Co Kilkenny and she sang at it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭depaor


    For a male voice Rory Walsh (Tenor) also from Tramore is fantastic. I ahve heard him at a good few weddings and I ahve to say by far the best 'wedding singer' I have heard - I do know he and Donna team up sometimes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    depaor wrote: »
    - I do know he and Donna team up sometimes.

    please tell me it's to fight crime :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,238 ✭✭✭Junior


    Thanks for all the advice folks, I've gotten a few Pm's as well, I'll go thru them and let ye know who we go with, some people don't realise there's a recession out there with their prices however !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers



    +1 for Stephanie. I'm in a choir with her and she really is a fantastic soprano.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Luma


    I was at a wedding fair in Hotel Kilkenny last Sunday, 28th February. Caroline Reid O'Brien had a stand there and she sang before each of the 2 fashion shows. She was amazing. For a small woman, she sure has a powerful voice. I got talking to her and not only is she a fantastic soprano but she doesn't cost the earth!! Check out her website - www.carolinereidobrien.com. The samples don't do her justice. She told me she's working on a new cd. Hope all goes well with the wedding!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 eadaoin32


    Caroline Reid O'Brien - fantastic Soprano. might be in phone book. I've heard her sing at a wedding last year
    Caroline is a great Wedding singer - very professional and has an amazing voice. She sings in the Cathedral in Waterford every second Saturday night at 6:15 if you want to hear her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4 eadaoin32



    Another great singer!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    ToxicPaddy wrote: »
    Donna Roche is supposed to be very good.

    Link here with a sample of her singing..

    Located in Tramore.
    went off with her when I was about 13 lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78 ✭✭smdweb


    Caroline sang at our wedding and was excellent.
    She has posted on her website at http://www.carolinereidobrien.com/ that she is singing at the Mount Juliet Wedding Open Day on Sunday 21st March.
    I checked http://www.mountjuliet.ie/weddings/ but there are no details but apparently it was advertised in the Kilkenny People - but Caroline does have a great voice and its worth hearing.
    Good luck with your wedding plans!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 mrsdunes


    Caroline Reid O Brien sang at our wedding 3.5 years ago and she was excellent. To this day, people still ask us about her since our wedding. Her website is www.carolinereidobrien.com

    Good luck with your wedding plans!
    Regards Marie ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 mjbob


    Hi I would like to know do any out there know approx cost of a church singer for a civil ceremony Cheers :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭snuggles09


    i think its around 100 euro mark...if you need accompanying music i think they charge around 150 euro so you're probably looking at 200-300..anyone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Luma


    A friend of mine has booked Caroline Reid-O'Brien to sing at her civil ceremony in August this year. Caroline is going to play the guitar and will use backing tracks for some of the classical or musicals tracks requested by my friend. She was quoted an all-in cost of €220. The ceremony is in Waterford city.

    I heard her at a wedding show in the Mount Juliet hotel in March and she was fab!

    She has a website - www.carolinereidobrien.com.

    Good luck with the wedding!! :D:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    €220 for a few minutes work? Think I'll start singing at weddings!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18 mjbob


    snuggles09 wrote: »
    i think its around 100 euro mark...if you need accompanying music i think they charge around 150 euro so you're probably looking at 200-300..anyone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong :)

    Thanks all, At least i have an idea when im asking....oh and ill sing with you at weddings and split the money!!!!!! love all this wedding organizing thingy....:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 Luma


    €220 for a few minutes work? Think I'll start singing at weddings!
    Most wedding singers (if they're worth their salt!) are classically trained so there would be high costs for voice training. I believe €220 is very reasonable cos usually a singer on his/her own starts from €150, with an organist starting from €150 also. A string quartet starts from €500 (4 musicians). My friend got all this info when she was shopping around. I've been at a few wedding ceremonies between this year and last year and they go on for about an hour or hour and a half. I'm sure the couple meets the singer to pick out the music as well. Anyways, good luck with all your preparations


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    I have been dealing with Donna Roache for mine and although I haven't meet her yet she seems lovely.

    Added to the overall cost of the day €200 is nothing and I think having a good one would make it that little bit more special.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    Luma wrote: »
    Most wedding singers (if they're worth their salt!) are classically trained so there would be high costs for voice training. I believe €220 is very reasonable cos usually a singer on his/her own starts from €150, with an organist starting from €150 also. A string quartet starts from €500 (4 musicians). My friend got all this info when she was shopping around. I've been at a few wedding ceremonies between this year and last year and they go on for about an hour or hour and a half. I'm sure the couple meets the singer to pick out the music as well. Anyways, good luck with all your preparations

    Believe it of not I actually have some classical training. I do remember that my singing lessons were not cheap also so you're spot on about charging a decent amount for a decent job. I might seriously look into singing at weddings. It seems to be a female dominated profession at the moment, might be nice to offer a male alternative.

    Anyway, this is going off topic so I'll hop out of the thread. Best of luck in your search for a singer OP. Hope they're good whoever you get.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 711 ✭✭✭snuggles09


    Believe it of not I actually have some classical training. I do remember that my singing lessons were not cheap also so you're spot on about charging a decent amount for a decent job. I might seriously look into singing at weddings. It seems to be a female dominated profession at the moment, might be nice to offer a male alternative.

    Anyway, this is going off topic so I'll hop out of the thread. Best of luck in your search for a singer OP. Hope they're good whoever you get.


    you can come sing at mine..we'll call it a test period..ill give you a free dinner and fill you with beer:D

    Donna is lovely..she's singing at mine (thats if jonnyfingers falls through:p)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Seriously though, €200 for an hour/hour and a half's work (and in fairness more than half of that is sitting around). That's serious money and I don't think I could bring myself to paying it. Then again, jonnyfingers has to sing at mine for free because he's family so....:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,333 ✭✭✭jonnyfingers


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    Seriously though, €200 for an hour/hour and a half's work (and in fairness more than half of that is sitting around). That's serious money and I don't think I could bring myself to paying it. Then again, jonnyfingers has to sing at mine for free because he's family so....:D

    I'm not getting paid???? :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 mountjuliet


    Many Thanks to Caroline Reid O'Brien for singing at our Wedding Fair in March.
    You certainly have a lovely voice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 fioc


    Morgan Crowley sang at my wedding and was amazing...Voice of an angel and has performed at Carnegie Hall and with Riverdance, so is an utter professional....Nothing was too much trouble and Morgan's talents blew the church away...Everyone commented on him...His mobile is:085 8233244.

    He is based in Dublin, but can travel...:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 JosephKavanagh


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    Seriously though, €200 for an hour/hour and a half's work (and in fairness more than half of that is sitting around). That's serious money and I don't think I could bring myself to paying it. Then again, jonnyfingers has to sing at mine for free because he's family so....:D

    Hi There,
    I’m new to this website and try to refrain from getting involved in discussions online but I couldn’t refrain myself when I read this.
    I’m a professional tenor singer and I charge €280.00 to sing at a wedding.
    I have gone to college studied music for 4 years and I have my degree this cost me and my generous parents a lot of money. I now depend totally on weddings and corporate events to make the bulk of my living.
    A wedding for me consists of meeting the bride and groom beforehand which could be anywhere around the Country to discuss their songs and hymns. I then have at the least one day training and studying for the playlist the bride and groom require.
    I have to pay for sound equipment and travel for the day including diesel.
    I can’t understand why some people argue about what we charge for a wedding. Its a serious responsibility.
    To go a step further a solicitor who went to study his career will charge an average of €250.00 an hour I put a lot more than an hr into a wedding and sometimes in winter season I might only have one wedding a week!
    A wedding band averages around €2000.00 and this is only for the drinking session later! The day in the Church, registry office or place of worship is the most important part... it’s a little like people who celebrate Christmas but don’t go to celebrate it in church etc... People forget what the day is about your wedding day is about "Going to your place of worship and marrying the love of your life" and of course celebrating this event afterwards...
    Sorry for the ramble this is just my opinion and I’m sure many people would agree??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Hi Joseph. Welcome to the site.

    I understand your reasoning but I don't agree with it.

    I also went to college for 4 years but I don't earn €200 per hour. My wife's work involves a skill, education at third level and 10 years' experience but she doesn't earn €200 per hour.

    To liken yourself to a solicitor is a bit off IMO. To qualify as a solicitor, you not only have to get your degree but also have to complete many further exams, as I'm sure you know. And solocitors' rates are also extortionate, something which has come under focus given the economic downturn.

    Many, many people are"professional" something or others but that doesn't mean they can set massive hourly rates for themselves.

    And as for a day practicing the setlist? I've been to enough weddings and know enough people who have performed at weddings to know that, after a short period of time, you'll have covered the vast majority of songs and may only have to learn one or two songs for such an event.

    I don't mean any of this as a slight on you. I'm just stating my opinion that the rates charged to get someone to sing at your wedding are extortionate, along with 99% of costs associated with weddings in Ireland. If people will pay it, then why shouldn't you charge it and make what you can. I'll not be surprised, though, if the number of people viewing this as something they don't need to do on their big day dwindles as times get tougher if rates stay the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 JosephKavanagh


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    Hi Joseph. Welcome to the site.

    I understand your reasoning but I don't agree with it.

    I also went to college for 4 years but I don't earn €200 per hour. My wife's work involves a skill, education at third level and 10 years' experience but she doesn't earn €200 per hour.

    To liken yourself to a solicitor is a bit off IMO. To qualify as a solicitor, you not only have to get your degree but also have to complete many further exams, as I'm sure you know. And solocitors' rates are also extortionate, something which has come under focus given the economic downturn.

    Many, many people are"professional" something or others but that doesn't mean they can set massive hourly rates for themselves.

    And as for a day practicing the setlist? I've been to enough weddings and know enough people who have performed at weddings to know that, after a short period of time, you'll have covered the vast majority of songs and may only have to learn one or two songs for such an event.

    I don't mean any of this as a slight on you. I'm just stating my opinion that the rates charged to get someone to sing at your wedding are extortionate, along with 99% of costs associated with weddings in Ireland. If people will pay it, then why shouldn't you charge it and make what you can. I'll not be surprised, though, if the number of people viewing this as something they don't need to do on their big day dwindles as times get tougher if rates stay the same.


    Well all I can say to this is that I earn less than 19K a year! Is this major money? You can check my tax return last year.
    I have major costs in advertising some websites and magazines cost 3k a year.

    I'm not comparing myself to a solicitor I'm far from it! Personally I put more than an hr into a wedding and I have yet to sing at a wedding where the bride and groom look for something different that takes time and I don't charge extra for that. I also don't charge extra for travel and I train my voice every week to stay in top vocal condition.

    My day tomorrow consists of driving to Leitrim from Portlaoise meeting a bride and groom driving home and preparing myself for the wedding. I use professional HK audio systems and I record the vocals live at the wedding and send a copy to the couple for the video.

    So that's what I earn and my course was very tough music is not easy!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Well all I can say to this is that I earn less than 19K a year! Is this major money? You can check my tax return last year.
    I have major costs in advertising some websites and magazines cost 3k a year.

    I'm not comparing myself to a solicitor I'm far from it! Personally I put more than an hr into a wedding and I have yet to sing at a wedding where the bride and groom look for something different that takes time and I don't charge extra for that. I also don't charge extra for travel and I train my voice every week to stay in top vocal condition.

    My day tomorrow consists of driving to Leitrim from Portlaoise meeting a bride and groom driving home and preparing myself for the wedding. I use professional HK audio systems and I record the vocals live at the wedding and send a copy to the couple for the video.

    So that's what I earn and my course was very tough music is not easy!

    So if I hire you in your home town and my friend hires you at the other end of the country do we both pay the same? I'd feel that I was getting ripped off if this was the case.

    Like I say, fair play to you for charging what you can. A lot of people don't do this kind of work as their only job. If someone was earning a decent wage for their normal joba nd charging €200 for this service, I think they're extracting the urine quite frankly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11 JosephKavanagh


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    So if I hire you in your home town and my friend hires you at the other end of the country do we both pay the same? I'd feel that I was getting ripped off if this was the case.

    Like I say, fair play to you for charging what you can. A lot of people don't do this kind of work as their only job. If someone was earning a decent wage for their normal joba nd charging €200 for this service, I think they're extracting the urine quite frankly.



    Ok... What do you think we should charge? :confused:

    I think you just dont understand a performer will study and train for the stage for years, months and days. When the show is on its only on for an hour or maybe two and thats when a performer gets paid for his or her hard work. Thats how show business works.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    nkay1985; How much do you think DJs and other signers get? Whether it be a band or just a vocalist. Do you think the good folks at Waterford Music Fest who sang didn't charge much? Likewise at other music festivals?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    Sully wrote: »
    nkay1985; How much do you think DJs and other signers get? Whether it be a band or just a vocalist. Do you think the good folks at Waterford Music Fest who sang didn't charge much? Likewise at other music festivals?

    Hardly the same thing though, I mean there is one hour of singing which fair enough €200 would seem reasonable for high quality but how many songs are sang in a church wedding? I'd take a guess at 6. Call it 20/25 minutes of actual singing over the ceremony. That's not bad money not matter what way you slice it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Sully wrote: »
    nkay1985; How much do you think DJs and other signers get? Whether it be a band or just a vocalist. Do you think the good folks at Waterford Music Fest who sang didn't charge much? Likewise at other music festivals?

    A DJ plays 2-3 hours at a wedding and usually costs about €200. Mine cost a bit less.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    ziedth wrote: »
    Hardly the same thing though, I mean there is one hour of singing which fair enough €200 would seem reasonable for high quality but how many songs are sang in a church wedding? I'd take a guess at 6. Call it 20/25 minutes of actual singing over the ceremony. That's not bad money not matter what way you slice it.

    It is though. Its very similar. Its a short career often, signing. Its a bit like footballers - they get paid a fortune yet nobody complains. Sure half of them don't even do a full 90mins.

    Here we have, probably anyway, a very good and well know singer. She has studied and worked very hard to get where she is, spending a small fortune on getting there. Once you get to that stage, you don't sit back and bring it all in. Study/work/training continues. You hardly expect her to charge a lot less and take forever to actually earn back what was spent and make a decent living out of it.

    From my understanding this is about the normal price (like with any service, you can get much cheaper and much more expensive).

    Some people get good singers cheaper, some get even better for a higher price.
    nkay1985 wrote: »
    A DJ plays 2-3 hours at a wedding and usually costs about €200. Mine cost a bit less.

    Sure all they do is stick on a few MP3s/CDs and do requests. Its all computerized. They sit back, click a few buttons, and it does the rest. Why should we pay them €200 for that? Sure anybody can put up a playlist and play them out.

    Same logic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Sully wrote: »
    Sure all they do is stick on a few MP3s/CDs and do requests. Its all computerized. They sit back, click a few buttons, and it does the rest. Why should we pay them €200 for that? Sure anybody can put up a playlist and play them out.

    Same logic.

    Yeah but there's some difference in the hourly rate there, don't you think? And I never said that djs' rates are excellent either, did I?

    I know all about the study required to be a musician. I studied music for 6 years, as did my two brothers. My younger brother is about to start his third year of a music degree.

    Having spent a certain amount of money in order to achieve something does not set the hourly rate for a job. And wedding singing is not a short career at all. I don't know how you'd even begin to think that? Most people who are in that line of work will start to do it in their late teens/early twenties and can easily keep it up into their forties. There are numerous people who, over the years, were still singing well into their later years.

    Nobody forces you to choose this as a career. You can't set a high rate just because that's your only income. But, in this case, you can because people in Ireland will pay inflated prices for anything to do with a wedding.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    Yeah but there's some difference in the hourly rate there, don't you think? And I never said that djs' rates are excellent either, did I?

    I thought this €200 fee was not per hour? Its for all the music they do. DJs have a set rate I always thought, and not an hourly rate? One could argue a wedding singer does more training and work than a DJ would, yet you seemed to suggest that money was fine to give to a DJ? Or have I misunderstood? Sorry :\
    I know all about the study required to be a musician. I studied music for 6 years, as did my two brothers. My younger brother is about to start his third year of a music degree.

    There is more to most jobs than a piece of paper you get from a college/university/music school. Also depends on the type of music. Iv only come to see the costs signers actually have so its why I understand it a bit more.
    Having spent a certain amount of money in order to achieve something does not set the hourly rate for a job. And wedding singing is not a short career at all. I don't know how you'd even begin to think that? Most people who are in that line of work will start to do it in their late teens/early twenties and can easily keep it up into their forties. There are numerous people who, over the years, were still singing well into their later years.

    IT companies with much more experience and qualifications charge more than the random joe soap doing IT repairs. Their hourly rate is different depending on their studies. Likewise in web and graphic design - you pay the more experienced companies more (same can be said for printing but that's balanced out in the past few years).

    Some areas of the music industry is and can be short lived. A popular local signer is a bit different than someone on a more national scale.
    Nobody forces you to choose this as a career. You can't set a high rate just because that's your only income. But, in this case, you can because people in Ireland will pay inflated prices for anything to do with a wedding.

    Who said about forcing? If you like it, you go for it. If your ****e, you generally don't get very far or end up doing budget gigs and are not highly regarded.

    Why do you think businesses are closing down? Because they cant drop prices below a certain amount as its not enough to make a living. Therefore businesses and service providers set a rate which they feel matches the quality of service they can provide and that meets their costs and is enough to actually make a living from.

    Where is Adam, he can explain this a bit better as a business student/graduate!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,975 ✭✭✭nkay1985


    Sully wrote: »
    I thought this €200 fee was not per hour? Its for all the music they do. DJs have a set rate I always thought, and not an hourly rate? One could argue a wedding singer does more training and work than a DJ would, yet you seemed to suggest that money was fine to give to a DJ? Or have I misunderstood? Sorry :\

    A church service rarely lasts much longer than an hour. The singer is there for that long, even if not performing all the time, so it roughly translates to an hourly rate.
    There is more to most jobs than a piece of paper you get from a college/university/music school. Also depends on the type of music. Iv only come to see the costs signers actually have so its why I understand it a bit more.

    As someone who is no stranger to the world of work, I well know that the piece of paper is mostly irrelevant. It was Joseph and yourself who seemed to suggest that the study required was some justification. The type of music is actually exactly what we're talking about - vocals. My older brother had some vocal training to add to a lot of natural talent and my younger brother is majoring in vocal performance.
    As for the last sentence there, I really don't understand it.
    IT companies with much more experience and qualifications charge more than the random joe soap doing IT repairs. Their hourly rate is different depending on their studies. Likewise in web and graphic design - you pay the more experienced companies more (same can be said for printing but that's balanced out in the past few years).

    I appreciate the concept of paying more for a better standard of product but can you show me any of these companies that charge €200 for an hour's work? I would also argue that some of the fields you mentioned above would require a lot more knowledge and expertise.
    Some areas of the music industry is and can be short lived. A popular local signer is a bit different than someone on a more national scale.

    But we're specifically talking about wedding singers, are we not? If the topic has changed, then I've missed it, as you wouldn't find me arguing that the music industry is anything but a fickle beast.
    Who said about forcing? If you like it, you go for it. If your ****e, you generally don't get very far or end up doing budget gigs and are not highly regarded.

    Why do you think businesses are closing down? Because they cant drop prices below a certain amount as its not enough to make a living. Therefore businesses and service providers set a rate which they feel matches the quality of service they can provide and that meets their costs and is enough to actually make a living from.

    Where is Adam, he can explain this a bit better as a business student/graduate!

    As I said Sully, I don't mean any of this as a slight on Joseph or anybody else who's doing this. The going rate to get someone to perform this service is a rate that I, personally, wouldn't be happy to pay. Just as I thought spending a fortune on flowers at my wedding was unnecessary. Just as I thought many other things that are done at some weddings were overpriced and unnecessary. My overall point is that prices for almost everything associated with weddings in Ireland are over the top.

    I'm very lucky that there's such talent in my family that I didn't have to choose to use this service or not as my love of music would have probably made me do it. Music was one thing I felt was immensely important in my wedding day. We had a harpist play from when people arrived, through the civil ceremony and during the drinks reception. The cost was €150 by the way in case anyone is wondering. We also had a top class band in Opus Pocus who I didn't mind paying as they are top class and there are a lot of them in it. And the dj I mentioned earlier who played songs from a list I drew up.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    nkay1985 wrote: »
    A church service rarely lasts much longer than an hour. The singer is there for that long, even if not performing all the time, so it roughly translates to an hourly rate.

    €200 for one hours work might seem on the face of things expensive but its a common price for that service. I see your point though, but from their perspective I understand the pricing. Any wedding I went to the singer was there earlier, met with the bride & groom in the run up to the wedding a few times and arranged the playlist for them. Then came out and sang during a good chunk of the mass. Just seems a fair price to me if you are good with what you do tbh.

    As someone who is no stranger to the world of work, I well know that the piece of paper is mostly irrelevant. It was Joseph and yourself who seemed to suggest that the study required was some justification. The type of music is actually exactly what we're talking about - vocals. My older brother had some vocal training to add to a lot of natural talent and my younger brother is majoring in vocal performance.
    As for the last sentence there, I really don't understand it.

    Bah, sorry your misunderstanding me. The piece of paper is not the "Job Done" label. Most continue to work and train beyond their courses. I am not saying the courses and piece of paper are irrelevant, I am saying that most people continue to work hard on their voice and performance after these standard music courses.
    I appreciate the concept of paying more for a better standard of product but can you show me any of these companies that charge €200 for an hour's work? I would also argue that some of the fields you mentioned above would require a lot more knowledge and expertise.

    Its not really an hours work for them to be fair.
    But we're specifically talking about wedding singers, are we not? If the topic has changed, then I've missed it, as you wouldn't find me arguing that the music industry is anything but a fickle beast.

    I think I misunderstood what you said before, sorry! You raise a good point that a lot of local singers go well into their 40s (probably start in their late 20s/earlier 30s?).
    As I said Sully, I don't mean any of this as a slight on Joseph or anybody else who's doing this. The going rate to get someone to perform this service is a rate that I, personally, wouldn't be happy to pay. Just as I thought spending a fortune on flowers at my wedding was unnecessary. Just as I thought many other things that are done at some weddings were overpriced and unnecessary. My overall point is that prices for almost everything associated with weddings in Ireland are over the top.

    I'd have went a stretch further and said Ireland as a whole charge huge rates. Wonder what this service would cost outside of Ireland? I know the argument often is that our cost of living is much higher though.
    I'm very lucky that there's such talent in my family that I didn't have to choose to use this service or not as my love of music would have probably made me do it. Music was one thing I felt was immensely important in my wedding day. We had a harpist play from when people arrived, through the civil ceremony and during the drinks reception. The cost was €150 by the way in case anyone is wondering. We also had a top class band in Opus Pocus who I didn't mind paying as they are top class and there are a lot of them in it. And the dj I mentioned earlier who played songs from a list I drew up.

    One wedding I was at had a similar approach, but there was a group of people including the singer. She was signing well before the bride came, when she came, during certain parts and as she left. Didn't attend the drinks though, that was in the hotel and there was no music till the band/DJ.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Jaysis I won't be having a singer at my wedding anyways. Also I might need a bride aswell.

    If you can get people to pay that amount then more power to you.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 24,056 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sully


    Depends who will be the boss of that relationship, Seany! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭wet-paint


    Don't call it an hourly rate for a wedding, it's a bit naive and insulting. It's a single flat rate for a gig. I've also sang at a large number of weddings, and have never ever been finished in under an hour. The lateness of the bride ensures that!

    You're not paying for someone to come along and sing a few songs. If that's all you want, you can probably sing them yourself, or rope in a sibling or mate. You're paying for the expertise and experience behind it that lets them sing so well. You may only see an hour and a half's performance, but that's NOT the amount of work that you're after buying.

    Even if one new song is requested by the bridal party, that means at least three hours work learning it and getting the accompanist to learn it.
    If you stick by your hourly rate mentality, the hourly rate just got divided by four.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,081 ✭✭✭ziedth


    That's all well and good but a let's take the band I got for my wedding they cost €1,600 which is far from cheap but I'll break it down:

    There was 4 in the band.

    They played for 3 hours continuously with maybe a 15min break.

    Call it 5 minute songs and it's about 33 songs on the nIght.

    They learned two songs for us.

    They would put the same if not more background work into their set as the church singer.

    Now, I believe our church singer sang six songs and had a guitar player with her that we paid extra for to cover her costs. I can't actually remember the price but we'll call it €250 (€200+€50)

    Looking at it like that you pay each member of the band €12 per song and pay the church singer €33 for pretty much the same service.

    I don't care how you break it down that is a big difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭wet-paint


    If that's all well and good, then you accept the above point? And if so, are you just griping that you shelled out a large sum of money for the band?

    They're also providing different services, despite what you believe. It's not comparing like with like. You might as well compare the service that the soloist at the ceremony provides with that of a DJ.

    Of course you'll get price differences when people are selling different services.

    It's a bit funny to see people begrudging singers the prices they're charging. Vote with your feet, people. You don't have to pay it if you don't want to, it's your day, organise it however you like.


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