Hunger Strike for your job?

BluePlanet

The General Secretary-Designate of the Technical, Engineering and Electrical Union has said it is going to escalate its action in the coming days if the union is going to save the lives of the two Green Isle employees who are on hunger strike.

Eamon Devoy was speaking at a rally of about 400 people who marched to the Green Isle plant today in support of three employees who have been dismissed by the company.

Green Isle Foods says this dispute, which began six months ago, relates to its staff members accessing extreme adult material through email accounts and said all employees involved were dismissed.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0227/greenisle.html

Jeez, can't say i'd have them working for me.
Don't know all the details, but hello, there is a legal route they could take, such as an unfair dismissal claim??

partyatmygaff

Are they serious?

TestTransmission

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Are they serious?

Yes

ronnie3585

Let them starve.

Filthy trade unionists.

PirateShampoo

Fair play to them.

Take back the power.

Bet they don't do more than 2 weeks.

Pussies

m-a-i-

To be honest I just had a quick look at the website there. To be honest its their choice if they want and can go on hunger strike. However I do not agree with the website "naming and shaming the so called scabs. Although I believe that they should not have backed down if they were as adamant and committed to it as the website says they were I do believe there could have been many reasons behind them backing down.

Luno

Green Isle mustn't make great food if even their workers can't stand the food enough to go on strike!

Mr. Incognito

Heard this on the radio.

Laughed then. Laughing now.

Darwin awards at the ready.

The Pontiac

You can be damn sure, three workers don't go on hunger strike with the support of 400 hundred marchers unless they're totally 100% innocent.

A Dairygold worker went on hunger strike in Mitchelstown recently after been offered a redundancy package of only 1.1 weeks pay for every year of service. He worked there for 35 years and is a father of nine children.

The food industry sector in this country were always scum, but they seem to be taking it to another level in recent times. Swissco in Cork is another example of a company telling their long-term workers to go fúck themselves in the end.

IrishManSaipan

Victory to the workers!

flowersagogo

looking at 'extreme adult material' -in a food factory.does'nt bode well

IrishManSaipan

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Heard this on the radio.

Laughed then. Laughing now.

Darwin awards at the ready.

You sound like a compassionate and well adjusted sort of fellow.:p

taibhse

BluePlanet wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0227/greenisle.html

Don't know all the details, but hello, there is a legal route they could take, such as an unfair dismissal claim??

They did, and won. The labour court also recommended they be reinstated in their jobs or given compensation, which the company is choosing to ignore. There is an unwritten rule that companies usually abide by the recommendations.

flowersagogo wrote: »

looking at 'extreme adult material' -in a food factory.does'nt bode well

Funny how the "facts" are always reported in Irish media.:rolleyes: People should learn the facts before spouting crap.


One worker was given access to a file, which he shouldn't have been. This file happened to contain information about who the company was letting go. He told a couple of his co-workers and then reported it to his manager, whereby an investigation took place.

This "investigation" found that some employees, which happened to be the same ones who had seen this file had "inappropriate images" on their computers, which were sent by email. Funny how the only people with access privileges to be able to get to porn sites and the like were management!

It's a fcuking disgrace that this man has to go on hunger strike to get some kind of justice from this company.:mad:

Mr. Incognito

You sound like a compassionate and well adjusted sort of fellow.

Hold on.

Some fellas were emailed porn, told his co-workers and got fired.

Well boo-hoo.

A HUNGER STRIKE???!!!

Seriously?

oh, what's this over there. It's the DELETE button. Who knew.

Justice?! They are being punished for being stupid. Stupid people get punished in my experience. They are so used to being stupid and being punished they have to invent their own stupidity to feed the monkey.

I've turned out my pockets, whoops, no sympathy. Maybe in my other pants.

taibhse

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Hold on.

Some fellas were emailed porn, told his co-workers and got fired.

Well boo-hoo.

Did you actually read the last post, or just take from it what you wanted and hit reply button?


They were emailed porn by MANAGEMENT, from an "anonymous" source. They did this to use as an excuse to fire the workers. The same company that delivered pizza, to a man on hunger strike on the picket line.

The workers have been on strike for 6 months, the company refused to engage with them until this hunger strike, the media never reported this, until this man went on hunger strike. What the media is now reporting is based on information supplied by the company - u think that could be biased much??

Sea Sharp

The food in the restaurant I work in is ****, so it wouldn't be too hard to go on hunger strike.

Mr. Incognito

They were emailed porn by MANAGEMENT, from an "anonymous" source

Conspiracy Forum's that way >>>>>>

In the meantime, hmmmmm pizza

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Heard this on the radio.

Laughed then. Laughing now.

Darwin awards at the ready.

Hunger striking to redress a wrong is a very old Irish tradition, the belief being that if someone died from hunger on your doorstep you were cast into shame as only the very righteous took part (believing they were so positively right that they were prepared to die for their beliefs).

Some people just lack courage & understanding of it.

Mr. Incognito

Hunger striking to redress a wrong is a very old Irish tradition, the belief being that if someone died from hunger on your doorstep you were cast into shame as only the very righteous took part (believing they were so positively right that they were prepared to die for their beliefs).

Some people just lack courage & understanding of it.

Oh okay. Thanks for this history lesson.

Some dudes were fired. Get another job. It's a job. It's not life or death. It's an economic activity. I don't question their courage. I question their intelligence. If they want to starve themselves to death OVER A JOB!, well, don't expect me to take that sort of nonsense seriously.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Oh okay. Thanks for this history lesson.

Some dudes were fired. Get another job. It's a job. It's not life or death. It's an economic activity. I don't question their courage. I question their intelligence. If they want to starve themselves to death OVER A JOB!, well, don't expect me to take that sort of nonsense seriously.

Well you see the issue being a job, I see it as redressing a wrong.

Whilst I wouldn't starve myself to death if I was being wronged, but there's no way on Gods good earth would I back down from anyone if I felt totally in the right.

Fair play to 'em I say, and if the company don't right this obvious wrong - I hope they (the two workers) die :pac:

Mr. Incognito

I hope they (the two workers) die

See at last we agree. You have your principles and I have my Darwins.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

See at last we agree. You have your principles and I have my Darwins.

I'll not argue with you :P

IrishManSaipan

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

In the meantime, hmmmmm pizza

Not funny.

Hunger strike has been used by many Irish patriots throughout the years. By people like Ashe, McSwiney, Sands', The Dark, and Farrell. People like you and I wouldnt be fit to lace their boots. Your crass attempt at humour is downright disgusting and disrespectful.

If it wasnt for these people, we would not enjoy the standard of living we enjoy today. Some decorum and respect, please.

Mr. Incognito

unger strike has been used by many Irish patriots throughout the years. By people like Ashe, McSwiney, Sands', The Dark, and Farrell. People like you and I wouldnt be fit to lace their boots. Your crass attempt at humour is downright disgusting and disrespectful.

Oh crikey. You are equating two workers fired for viewing porn at work with political hunger strikers.

Is that correct? I'm not attempting humour. I find it patently stupid. Not funny. Stupid.

I'm not laughing

Kinetic^

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Not funny.

Hunger strike has been used by many Irish patriots throughout the years. By people like Ashe, McSwiney, Sands', The Dark, and Farrell. People like you and I wouldnt be fit to lace their boots. Your crass attempt at humour is downright disgusting and disrespectful.

If it wasnt for these people, we would not enjoy the standard of living we enjoy today. Some decorum and respect, please.

YES! If it wasn't for these 2 people we'd be without frozen peas and green beans! They are the Bobby Sands of the frozen food industry and are doing this country, no this WORLD, a favour for standing up for EVERYONE by going on hunger strike.



I think I may go on hunger strike myself, outside SIPTU, in protest of them bringing the cost of employment so high that it's unsustainable to continue public spending as is. YES!

Sharpshooter

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Not funny.

Hunger strike has been used by many Irish patriots throughout the years. By people like Ashe, McSwiney, Sands', The Dark, and Farrell. People like you and I wouldnt be fit to lace their boots. Your crass attempt at humour is downright disgusting and disrespectful.

If it wasnt for these people, we would not enjoy the standard of living we enjoy today. Some decorum and respect, please.

You are not familiar with After Hours?

And I base that on the fact that you joined this month.

Take some time to read through some of the threads.:pac:

seanybiker

bloody numpties, leave em die. People going on hunger strikes is laughable and I include that plonker sands.

Mr. Incognito

I gave you a twenty,
No Sir, you gave me a ten

HUNGER STRIKE

I said lets meet at 8,
No, No you said 7

HUNGER STRIKE

I said butter not Mayo

HUNGER STRIKE

I failed my exams

HUNGER STRIKE

You see where this is going.............

IrishManSaipan

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I gave you a twenty,
No Sir, you gave me a ten

HUNGER STRIKE

I said lets meet at 8,
No, No you said 7

HUNGER STRIKE

I said butter not Mayo

HUNGER STRIKE

I failed my exams

HUNGER STRIKE

You see where this is going.............

A wee nip would do you no harm.

I hope you fail life.

IrishManSaipan

seanybiker wrote: »

bloody numpties, leave em die. People going on hunger strikes is laughable and I include that plonker sands.

Sweet Jaysus.:eek:

IrishManSaipan

Sharpshooter wrote: »

You are not familiar with After Hours?

I thought the Irish people would have a bit of respect for the patriot dead whom gave us an opportunity to enjoy the current standard of living we lead.

Evidently, I was wrong.

krudler

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

I thought the Irish people would have a bit of respect for the patriot dead whom gave us an opportunity to enjoy the current standard of living we lead.

Evidently, I was wrong.

I dont think you get how this thread works, pisstakey replies are the norm on here...

Anyway what has Bobby Sands got to do with the fact we have an Ikea here now?

Super-Rush

I am fcuking starving. Sandwich anyone?

Tilt Gone

the inappropiate use of the e-mail system is not the sending of porn images. a mail that was meant for a manager was sent to the wrong person. it contained sensitive info about upcoming redundancies and was passed around among the workers. this was the reason they were sacked.

I would love a sandwich right now though.

seanybiker

super-rush wrote: »

I am fcuking starving. Sandwich anyone?

ill have a blaa instead thanks.

Jesus Wept

<Ollie> wrote: »

You can be damn sure, three workers don't go on hunger strike with the support of 400 hundred marchers unless they're totally 100% innocent.

I wouldn't make the presumption based on that, no.

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

I gave you a twenty,
No Sir, you gave me a ten

HUNGER STRIKE

I said lets meet at 8,
No, No you said 7

HUNGER STRIKE

I said butter not Mayo

HUNGER STRIKE

I failed my exams

HUNGER STRIKE

You see where this is going.............

Exactly, I agree with the above.

I found this story really bizarre when it came on the news.

How on earth does a hunger strike related to an employment dispute?
It takes away from their cause in my eyes because that sort of reaction leads me to feel that the strikers in question aren't reasonable or realistic.
I'd find it hard to trust their version of events.

m@cc@

Ha ha ha ha, utterly ridiculous. Take it to a tribunal? Find another job? Nah, hunger strike, it worked for Gandhi. I'm guessing it's just for publicity, as no one could really expect to be re-instated on the back of a hunger strike.

alwaysadub

I wonder if they'd worked for the ESB, would they have gone without electricity,or for an insurance company would they have gone without insurance,etc

Jesus Wept

It's a good thing they didn't work for Ann Summers or they'd have to go without the ride.

Mike 1972

krudler wrote: »

Anyway what has Bobby Sands got to do with the fact we have an Ikea here now?

A potentially competing furniture factory getting burned down.......?

The Pontiac

The-Rigger wrote: »

I wouldn't make the presumption based on that, no.

Exactly, I agree with the above.

I found this story really bizarre when it came on the news.

How on earth does a hunger strike related to an employment dispute?
It takes away from their cause in my eyes because that sort of reaction leads me to feel that the strikers in question aren't reasonable or realistic.
I'd find it hard to trust their version of events.

I couldn't disagree more. I was referring more to the 400 marchers that are supporting them. You can't honestly say with so many supporters and to go on hunger strike themselves that they're actually guilty of something. As it happens the workers are totally innocent anyway and the Labour Court had actually recommended the workers be reinstated. The hunger strike is obviously a last resort, after going through all other channels.

The case really is that complicated. I know certain people would prefer a hunger strike to be solely an act that's exclusive to their Republican Heroes, and probably hate to see it cheapened by a few food factory workers, but it's their livelihoods we're talking about here. Not to mention being victims of a total injustice. Not as glamorous as 'a Bobby Sands' with all the history and everything, and it might seem a little extreme alright, but it really is a last resort for the workers.

The Irish often get criticised for not being rebellious enough, compared to say the French. Then we get people who aren't prepared to be victims of a total act of injustice, and we get the "I laughed when I heard this on the radio" people.

arybvtcw0eolkf

IrishManSaipan wrote: »

Not funny.

Hunger strike has been used by many Irish patriots throughout the years. By people like Ashe, McSwiney, Sands', The Dark, and Farrell. People like you and I wouldnt be fit to lace their boots. Your crass attempt at humour is downright disgusting and disrespectful.

If it wasnt for these people, we would not enjoy the standard of living we enjoy today. Some decorum and respect, please.

Well your only using recent history as an example, but hunger striking in Ireland goes back to tribe time's.

Btw, I've just had a fry up :pac:

Mr. Incognito

I couldn't disagree more. I was referring more to the 400 marchers that are supporting them. You can't honestly say with so many supporters and to go on hunger strike themselves that they're actually guilty of something. As it happens the workers are totally innocent anyway and the Labour Court had actually recommended the workers be reinstated. The hunger strike is obviously a last resort, after going through all other channels.

The case really is that complicated. I know certain people would prefer a hunger strike to be solely an act that's exclusive to their Republican Heroes, and probably hate to see it cheapened by a few food factory workers, but it's their livelihoods we're talking about here. Not to mention being victims of a total injustice. Not as glamorous as 'a Bobby Sands' with all the history and everything, and it might seem a little extreme alright, but it really is a last resort for the workers.

The Irish often get criticised for not being rebellious enough, compared to say the French. Then we get people who aren't prepared to be victims of a total act of injustice, and we get the "I laughed when I heard this on the radio" people.

Dude we have COURTS for this kind of thing. If they've been through the courts and had no satisfaction then logical people would think these two are muppets chancing their arm.

Between this and threads avocating the fat hair womins it wouldn't surprise me if the 400 are marching behind the French Flag.

The Pontiac

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Dude we have COURTS for this kind of thing. If they've been through the courts and had no satisfaction then logical people would think these two are muppets chancing their arm.

Between this and threads avocating the fat hair womins it wouldn't surprise me if the 400 are marching behind the French Flag.

Dude, courts and solicitors cost thousands and people don't have the money. It also takes time, and lots of it. That's why we have a thing called The Labour Relations Commission, an independent body that makes recommendations that both parties usually (99% of the time) abide by. In this case the company didn't.

arybvtcw0eolkf

<Ollie> wrote: »

The Irish often get criticised for not being rebellious enough, compared to say the French. Then we get people who aren't prepared to be victims of a total act of injustice, and we get the "I laughed when I heard this on the radio" people.

I laugh at the people who laugh when they heard on it the radio, on the internet :P

There has been other case's of hunger striking where the aggrieved person found some justice, the most recent case I can remember is the man from Tallaght who undertook a hunger strike at the Dept of Justice.

The Dept agreed to review his case, he felt vindicated and a wrong was put right.

brianthebard

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Dude we have COURTS for this kind of thing. If they've been through the courts and had no satisfaction then logical people would think these two are muppets chancing their arm.

You're ridiculous. Have you read a single post in this thread that doesn't agree with your views? If you had you'd see that everything you've posted either doesn't relate to the events or is just plain wrong.

arybvtcw0eolkf

brianthebard wrote: »

You're ridiculous. Have you read a single post in this thread that doesn't agree with your views? If you had you'd see that everything you've posted either doesn't relate to the events or is just plain wrong.

Some people's opinions are just too shallow & self centered to allow them see beyond their own nose.

Mr. Incognito

ou're ridiculous. Have you read a single post in this thread that doesn't agree with your views? If you had you'd see that everything you've posted either doesn't relate to the events or is just plain wrong.

Oh my God you don't agree with me.

Why I outta..........

HUNGER STRIKE!

aDeener

<Ollie> wrote: »

Dude, courts and solicitors cost thousands and people don't have the money. It also takes time, and lots of it. That's why we have a thing called The Labour Relations Commission, an independent body that makes recommendations that both parties usually (99% of the time) abide by. In this case the company didn't.

And also many people do not have faith in them to deliver justice

arybvtcw0eolkf

Mr. Incognito wrote: »

Oh my God you don't agree with me.

Why I outta..........

HUNGER STRIKE!

Feeding time is over anyway