Golf needs Poulter

conno16

big win yesterday
I'd say the PGA were well happy with the weekend overall
lucky for them that the plank casey messed up
Poulter is slowly but surely positioning himself as the saviour of world golf
charismatic, colourful and talented
I am sure there is a major in him this year
I also feel he is being groomed to fill the void left by tiger and the pga are doing everything they can to promote the bloke
recent appearances on leno and letterman was perfectly crafted to multiply his appeal across the US

watch out for a battle between big phil (and/or anthony kim) and poulter during this season in one of the big four

f22

Good man Conno, will you be breaking out the IP armbands for the season ahead?

ozymandias10

conno16 wrote: »

big win yesterday

Poulter is slowly but surely positioning himself as the saviour of world golf

switched off when I read that

Mr. Larson

Where to begin...

conno16 wrote: »

big win yesterday

Yes indeed. Seems like he's been a nearly man to date.

conno16 wrote: »

I'd say the PGA were well happy with the weekend overall

I'm sure they were delighted there were 3 Europeans and a Colombian in the final 4.

conno16 wrote: »

lucky for them that the plank casey messed up

Why is he a plank, how did he mess up and why is it lucky for them that he (according to you) messed up?

conno16 wrote: »

Poulter is slowly but surely positioning himself as the saviour of world golf

Bit much mate? You think golf is in its death throes because Tiger Woods isn't playing temporarily? Even if it was how is a boring player like Poulter going to be a saviour?

conno16 wrote: »

charismatic, colourful and talented

He is colourful. Charismatic? I don't agree - if you took away his 'colour' (i.e. dressed him like the others) he wouldn't be any more charismatic. Talented? Sure. But aren't they all?

conno16 wrote: »

I am sure there is a major in him this year

Put your money where your mouth is. The bookies don't seem to agree with you so there is a big chance for you to clean up.

conno16 wrote: »

I also feel he is being groomed to fill the void left by tiger and the pga are doing everything they can to promote the bloke

Oh yeah? Like what?

conno16 wrote: »

recent appearances on leno and letterman was perfectly crafted to multiply his appeal across the US

Were the PGA responsible for setting these up?

conno16 wrote: »

watch out for a battle between big phil (and/or anthony kim) and poulter during this season in one of the big four

Ok, thanks for the heads-up.

scrubber72

goodman conno its never the glass is half full or half empty with you. Its just whats in the glass;)

ShriekingSheet

No way.
He just got lucky and hacked his was to victory
It was a shyte field.
No tiger, No Phil.
One win in the states means nothing.
A load of flukey putts.

conno16

poulter played superbly all wkend in my opinion
dominant in all his matches

he is precisely the type of player to lead golf out of the doldrums
if the pga can manufacture a major win for poulter i feel he could really take charge of the sport

US open looks like a good bet right now
just follow some US media to see how this bloke is being promoted - SI.com, CBS in particular
hes got some serious firepower behind him right now

Whyner

I think he's great for the game, I'm sure we can all put up with the odd silly comment. He spoke very professionally when interviewed after each round and his on course commentary is a nice insight.

Having only started watching golf in the past 6 months the interviews last week were a welcome relief compared to same in football and to a less extent rugby.

Cink's admission to a complete yardage miscalculation being the highlight.

scrubber72

conno16 wrote: »

if the pga can manufacture a major win for poulter i feel he could really take charge of the sport

but surely then he wont be in charge. The pga would be and could decide whoever is their flavor of the month.
Classic conno shear classic

ShriekingSheet

Whyner wrote: »

He spoke very professionally when interviewed after each round and his on course commentary is a nice insight.

Having only started watching golf in the past 6 months the interviews last week were a welcome relief compared to same in football and to a less extent rugby.

Back on a serious note, one thing I noticed was quite a definitive Poulter moment, was in the lunch break between the QF and SF, Sky interviewed each caddie. Presumably given the short break, they (rightly) didn't want to bother the players.

They only showed the Christian Donald (Casey's caddie/Luke's bro) interview, but when the rain stopped play, and they were stuck for something to show, they flung in the interview with Poulter's caddie.

The interview was about 30 seconds old before Poulter himself, obviously having noticed his bagman infront of the camera, entered stage right, diving in front of the camera with some useless question to the caddie like "did you change over the balls?"... all this while the interviewer/interviewee were mid conversation! Poulter, routing in his bag for some surely important item, turns to face the camera..."oh, hi there"... and proceeds to take over the interview. Brilliant!

conno16

scrubber72 wrote: »

but surely then he wont be in charge. The pga would be and could decide whoever is their flavor of the month.
Classic conno shear classic

think of it as a leg-up..
poulter will win majors, no doubt
but for golf, he needs to win at least one this year

jimjo

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

It was a shyte field.

Ah your having a laugh… it’s not April fool’s day already is it?!!

It was **** field was it? Granted Tiger & Phil weren’t there but I wouldn’t call the world’s top 64 (baring no.1 & no.3) competing a **** field.

Ah sure lets disregard Harrington’s two major wins in 2008 cause woods wasn’t in the field…

Miley Byrne

jimjo wrote: »

Ah your having a laugh… it’s not April fool’s day already is it?!!

It was **** field was it? Granted Tiger & Phil weren’t there but I wouldn’t call the world’s top 64 (baring no.1 & no.3) competing a **** field.

Ah sure lets disregard Harrington’s two major wins in 2008 cause woods wasn’t in the field…

Think there might just have been a hint of irony in Sheet's post!!:rolleyes:

ShriekingSheet

jimjo wrote: »

Ah your having a laugh… it’s not April fool’s day already is it?!!

It was **** field was it? Granted Tiger & Phil weren’t there but I wouldn’t call the world’s top 64 (baring no.1 & no.3) competing a **** field.

Ah sure lets disregard Harrington’s two major wins in 2008 cause woods wasn’t in the field…

:P

conno16

copacetic

conno16 wrote: »

but for golf, he needs to win at least one this year

Poulter winning does absolutely nothing for golf, the ratings plummeted when it turned out to be an all english final.

How anyone can think an arrogant, annoying, self promoting, english white guy winning anything is 'good for golf is beyond me.

From a business point of view Poulter winning was a disaster for the tournament, the sponsors, the broadcasters and golf.

gorfield

I think Ian fully deserved his win, im not a fan, but he outplayed all of his opponents despite being an unimpressive ball striker. This tells me he has the heart and self belief to win a major.
He holes big putts under pressure- A vital tool when winning majors. I like him for augusta this year. Good on him last night, superb display.

conno16

copacetic wrote: »

Poulter winning does absolutely nothing for golf.

How anyone can think an arrogant, annoying, self promoting, english white guy winning anything is 'good for golf is beyond me.

From a business point of view Poulter winning was a disaster for the tournament, the sponsors, the broadcasters and golf.

absolutely no logic or reasoning to any of the above

copacetic

conno16 wrote: »

absolutely no logic or reasoning to any of the above

editing someones post in a direct quote is not considered normal behaviour conno. Especially going to
the trouble of editing out a comma and inserting a full stop. The line you edited out:

the ratings plummeted when it turned out to be an all english final.

is the key, all the rest follows. ( if you understand anything about the golf industry that is)

Squiggle

Poulter doesn't particularly excite me though I have nothing against him. I admire someone who turned pro while playing off 4 and getting as far as he has in the pro ranks. In general I find golf increasingly boring to watch tbh.

conno16

copacetic wrote: »

The line you edited out is the key, all the rest follows. ( if you understand anything about the golf industry that is)

apologies copa - ur dead right tho, the pga should have booted casey out in the semi for being too much of a plank
the colombian bloke is far more colourful
in fact, he could be an apprentice to IJP

back on topic though, it was not poulters fault the ratings were low
pick it up with the casey marketing team
the bloke is less interesting than pat kenny

BiffoGooner

conno16 wrote: »

the pga should have booted casey out in the semi for being too much of a plank

the bloke is less interesting than pat kenny

Oh dear.

Speaking of Pat Kenny.You're not the bloke that went mental at him live on air last year are you?Because you're obviously just as touched as that bloke.

copacetic

conno16 wrote: »

apologies copa - ur dead right tho, the pga should have booted casey out in the semi for being too much of a plank
the colombian bloke is far more colourful
in fact, he could be an apprentice to IJP

back on topic though, it was not poulters fault the ratings were low
pick it up with the casey marketing team
the bloke is less interesting than pat kenny

Really, surely the saviour of golf would bring in millions of viewers no matter who he was playing?

stumpypeeps

copacetic wrote: »

Really, surely the saviour of golf would bring in millions of viewers no matter who he was playing?

Though he grates on me I have to admit to a grudging respect for the guy. He's clearly not the most talented or exciting of players but he does know how to seal the deal.

I think he has a lot of followers of a young age, so if that brings more people to the game, all the better.

Their will never be another Tiger.

conno16

poulter is still a work-in-progress from the perspective of the pga
he would admit that himself
that is why they need to be a little creative re head-to-head battles on the final day of comps, in matchplay etc

Poulter needs to high profile duels with the following:
1. big phil
2. westwood
3. kim
4. harrington
5. mcilroy

stebed

I like the guy! I have been following him on twitter recently and he seems like a nice guy and his golf is really improving. Can he win a major? I think he can, probably a Masters or British open (due to length) and so what if he is the golfer people love to hate, do you think he would wear those clothes if he was bothered what the haters think?

Well done Poults!

soundsham

one stroke penalty !!........to all who replied to the trash talk

Jaysoose

conno16 wrote: »

poulter played superbly all wkend in my opinion
dominant in all his matches

he is precisely the type of player to lead golf out of the doldrums
if the pga can manufacture a major win for poulter i feel he could really take charge of the sport

US open looks like a good bet right now
just follow some US media to see how this bloke is being promoted - SI.com, CBS in particular
hes got some serious firepower behind him right now

Did you actually watch his match with Jaidee? You have to trolling...
He could not have had a handier run to the final if he picked his own matches.

Poulter is a self obsessed gooner who will NOT win a major this year or any other for that matter.

copacetic

stumpypeeps wrote: »

Though he grates on me I have to admit to a grudging respect for the guy. He's clearly not the most talented or exciting of players but he does know how to seal the deal.

I think he has a lot of followers of a young age, so if that brings more people to the game, all the better.

Their will never be another Tiger.

I don't like him at all, but respect his efforts. However he is a nothing as far as bringing anything to table viewers wise in the big markets.

mccutchie

Lads, let’s not get into a slagging match yet again. The topic here “Golf needs Poulter" is actually an interesting topic. As far as I'm concerned golf needs as many colorful characters as it can muster, and a guy like Poulter can only be good for the game from marketing - publicity perspective.
I've never been a major fan, and sometimes his childish tantrums on coarse leave alot to be desired. This last 8 months though, Poulter has definitely become a better golfer and his short game as improved no end. Some of the shots he played around the green last night when under pressure to win his first tournament in the US were tiger-esque. I must admit it was the best i have seen Poulter play. If he plays like that at Augusta, he has a serious chance.
I was very disappointed with Sergio’s attitude in the 3rd/4th place playoff.

Jaysoose

mccutchie wrote: »

Lads, let’s not get into a slagging match yet again. The topic here “Golf needs Poulter" is actually an interesting topic. As far as I'm concerned golf needs as many colorful characters as it can muster, and a guy like Poulter can only be good for the game from marketing - publicity perspective.
I've never been a major fan, and sometimes his childish tantrums on coarse leave alot to be desired. This last 8 months though, Poulter has definitely become a better golfer and his short game as improved no end. Some of the shots he played around the green last night when under pressure to win his first tournament in the US were tiger-esque. I must admit it was the best i have seen Poulter play. If he plays like that at Augusta, he has a serious chance.
I was very disappointed with Sergio’s attitude in the 3rd/4th place playoff.

Oh no you didnt!

stumpypeeps

copacetic wrote: »

I don't like him at all, but respect his efforts. However he is a nothing as far as bringing anything to table viewers wise in the big markets.

Only Tiger can do that. Mostly because of his background, race and success.

Actually, I'd suggest Ishikawa, Singh, Yang, Jaidee etc may be capable of bringing a lot of attention, just not in the US or Europe. Japan, Korea, Thailand, India and China, an increasingly significant market.

butter13222

ShriekingSheet wrote: »

No way.
He just got lucky and hacked his was to victory
It was a shyte field.
No tiger, No Phil.
One win in the states means nothing.
A load of flukey putts.

how do you fluke a tournement over 5 days please get a life , alot of people dont like poulter as a person but at least be big enough to give credit where it is due , so any tournement when tiger or phil arnt in are considered shyte bet if harrington won it you wouldnt be saying it was a shyte field

IITYWYBMAD

butter13222 wrote: »

how do you fluke a tournement over 5 days please get a life , alot of people dont like poulter as a person but at least be big enough to give credit where it is due , so any tournement when tiger or phil arnt in are considered shyte bet if harrington won it you wouldnt be saying it was a shyte field

The irony was lost on you......

stockdam

butter13222 wrote: »

how do you fluke a tournement over 5 days please get a life , alot of people dont like poulter as a person but at least be big enough to give credit where it is due , so any tournement when tiger or phil arnt in are considered shyte bet if harrington won it you wouldnt be saying it was a shyte field

Sheet will answer himself but I do believe that he was being sarcastic (unfortunately nobody has invented a font for sarcasm). Sheet was just "quoting" what the Poulter detractors might have said. Sometimes you've got to read other posts to get an understanding (I think he has been quite positive towards Poulter).......but an easy misunderstanding to make.

durkadurka

I think poulter's fantastic. If he plays to his potential, in a few years, it'll be just him and tiger.

Seriously, fair play to the lad, he's an eejit but we need colour in the sport.

butter13222

stockdam wrote: »

Sheet will answer himself but I do believe that he was being sarcastic (unfortunately nobody has invented a font for sarcasm). Sheet was just "quoting" what the Poulter detractors might have said. Sometimes you've got to read other posts to get an understanding (I think he has been quite positive towards Poulter).......but an easy misunderstanding to make.

oops sorry about that i was just tierd of all the bad comments about poulter when he has proven to be a top class golfer.
i would have to pic the one post that was being sarcastic lol

jimjo

I love the way people say its was a bad final which the PGA didn’t want cause an American or more appropriately Tiger wasn’t in the final. If this whole ordeal tells me something it’s that they are over reliant on one person Tiger. Also regardless of who’s in the final the attendance was pitiful. Good blog here by Ian Carter.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/iaincarter/2010/02/poulte_into_the_big_time_at_en.html

PhilipMarlowe

On Twitter:
"Do you think i should rock the pink pants tomorrow with Big Phil, im sure the crowd at 16 will have something to say... do i dare, hell yes"

He's the real deal

durkadurka

As i say he adds colour...

Myksyk

Definitely should stick to the golf. His tweets and his column for one of the golf mags are cringe-inducing. He writes like Jedward talk, except less intelligently.

conno16

what has tiger ever written?
or big phil.

granted harro has prob written a few accountancy manuals in his day but they dont really count

so Myksyk, whats your point

the conclusion of this thread is that clearly golf needs poulter
and poulter is more than capable of responding to the challenge

L.O.F.T

conno16 wrote: »

the conclusion of this thread is that clearly golf needs poulter
and poulter is more than capable of responding to the challenge

And his capable response is
T95 Ian Poulter +1 first round, 10 shots off the lead.
His consistency needs to improve for him to be recognised as a force to be reckoned with in world golf.

IITYWYBMAD

L.O.F.T wrote: »

And his capable response is
T95 Ian Poulter +1 first round, 10 shots off the lead.
His consistency needs to improve for him to be recognised as a force to be reckoned with in world golf.

Zingggggggggggg...lol

conno16

ah, the phoenix open...
thats for b-list golfers
watch lowry and darren clarke tear up the field

poulter has already pretty much said he's gonna keep himself tuned up for the majors. they are his focus now.

Jaysoose

conno16 wrote: »

what has tiger ever written?
or big phil.

granted harro has prob written a few accountancy manuals in his day but they dont really count

so Myksyk, whats your point

the conclusion of this thread is that clearly golf needs poulter
and poulter is more than capable of responding to the challenge

The real conclusion of this thread is that you obviously need to adjust your meds.

Myksyk

conno16 wrote: »

what has tiger ever written?
or big phil.

Phil, Phil
Tiger

granted harro has prob written a few accountancy manuals in his day but they dont really count

:rolleyes:

so Myksyk, whats your point

That Ian is a very poor scribe.

the conclusion of this thread is that clearly golf needs poulter
and poulter is more than capable of responding to the challenge

I agree. Golf is so serious these days that it's always good to have someone to laugh at now and again.

ah, the phoenix open...
thats for b-list golfers
watch lowry and darren clarke tear up the field

So you agree he's so inconsistent that he can't even figure in a field of b-list golfers.

Eh ... hoist ...own ...petard.

conno16

my point is that poulter has entered the top tier of world golfers
he cant be assed with the likes of phoenix now, bigger fish to fry
its not inconsistency, its arrogance

face up to it, poulter is carrying golf in a lot of respects right now
if he was oirish, most of ye would be creamin ye'reselves

ozymandias10

conno16 wrote: »

if he was oirish, most of ye would be creamin ye'reselves

You are begining to talk like him now..well done..

jimjo

L.O.F.T wrote: »

And his capable response is
T95 Ian Poulter +1 first round, 10 shots off the lead.
His consistency needs to improve for him to be recognised as a force to be reckoned with in world golf.

And he goes and shots a faultless 63, -8. After watching him yesterday must say I didn't think he had that in the locker. T9 at the moment some change from T95!

Twitter quote: Oh well 8 under today little shock to the system, could have been really low today, I will take it for sure, back in the hunt to win.

nuts86

anyone see that sneaky signal he gave the crowd on 16 there??? i wonder what he'l be tweeting about after this round!!!:D
Gas man