The boards.ie PW Hall of Fame 2010 Nominations thread

D2D

Right, I putting the idea of the Hall of Fame from the "Post draft PW activities" thread into action.

Basically, this thread is where you nominate wrestlers to be inducted into the "PW Hall of Fame" (Name pending). The wrestlers with the most nominations will be inducted. The induction ceremony will hopefully take place the night before WrestleMania 26.

I'll start this off with a man who should be in every wrestling Hall of Fame, he is the Nature Boy, Ric Flair.



With a career spanning over 30 years, Flair is a 16 times World Champion and is a worthy candidate of our own Hall of Fame. Below is all of Ric's championships and accomplishments:

- All Star Pro Wrestling
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

- All Japan Pro Wrestling
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

- Central States Wrestling
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)

- Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling / Jim Crockett Promotions / World Championship Wrestling
NWA Mid-Atlantic Heavyweight Championship (4 times)
NWA Mid-Atlantic Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Rip Hawk (1), Greg Valentine (1) and Big John Studd (1)
NWA Mid-Atlantic Television Championship (1 time)
NWA Television Championship (1 time)
NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (Mid-Atlantic version) (5 times)
NWA World Heavyweight Championship (10 times)
NWA World Tag Team Championship (Mid-Atlantic version) (3 times) – with Greg Valentine (2) and Blackjack Mulligan (1)
WCW International World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
WCW United States Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
WCW World Heavyweight Championship (7 times)
National Wrestling Alliance
NWA Hall of Fame (Class of 2008)

- Pro Wrestling Illustrated
PWI ranked him #2 of the top 500 singles wrestlers of the PWI Years in 2003
PWI ranked him #3 of the top 500 singles wrestlers in the PWI 500 in 1991, 1992, and 1994
Feud of the Year (1987) Four Horsemen vs. Super Powers and Road Warriors
Feud of the Year (1988, 1990) vs. Lex Luger
Feud of the Year (1989) vs. Terry Funk
Match of the Year (1983) vs. Harley Race (June 10)
Match of the Year (1984) vs. Kerry Von Erich at Parade of Champions
Match of the Year (1986) vs. Dusty Rhodes at The Great American Bash in a steel cage match
Match of the Year (1989) vs. Ricky Steamboat at WrestleWar
Match of the Year (2008) vs. Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XXIV
Match of the Decade (2000-2010) vs. Shawn Michaels at Wrestlemania XXIV
Most Hated Wrestler of the Year (1978, 1987)
Most Inspirational Wrestler of the Year (2008)
Rookie of the Year (1975)
Stanley Weston Award (2008)
Wrestler of the Year (1981, 1984, 1985, 1986, 1989, 1992)

- Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum
Class of 2006

- Pro Wrestling Report
Match of the Year (2008) vs. Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania 24
Most Memorable Moment - retirement

- St. Louis Wrestling Club
NWA Missouri Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
St. Louis Wrestling Hall of Fame
Class of 2007

-World Wrestling Federation / World Wrestling Entertainment
World Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Batista (2) and Roddy Piper (1)
WWE Intercontinental Championship (1 time)
WWF Championship (2 times)
Royal Rumble (1992)
WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2008)
Thirteenth Triple Crown Champion
Slammy Award for Match of the Year (2008) vs. Shawn Michaels at WrestleMania XXIV

- Wrestling Observer Newsletter
Best Heel (1990)
Best Interviews (1991, 1992, 1994)
Feud of the Year (1989) vs. Terry Funk
Match of the Year (1983) vs. Harley Race in a steel cage match at Starrcade
Match of the Year (1986) vs. Barry Windham at Battle of the Belts II on February 14
Match of the Year (1988) vs. Sting at Clash of the Champions I
Match of the Year (1989) vs. Ricky Steamboat at WrestleWar
Most Charismatic (1980, 1982–1984, 1993)
Most Outstanding (1986, 1987, 1989)
Readers' Favorite Wrestler (1984–1993, 1996)
Wrestler of the Year (1982–1986, 1989, 1990, 1992)
Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame (Class of 1996)

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

waltersobchak

My nomination is the only man to have more retirement matches than Ric Flair

"The Funker"
"Terrible" Terry Funk
"The Texan"
"Middle Aged and Crazy"
"The Hardcore Icon"

TERRY F'N FUNK

• All Japan Pro Wrestling
  • World's Strongest Tag Team League (1977, 1979, 1982) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
• Cauliflower Alley Club
  • Iron Mike Mazurki Award (2005)
• Championship Wrestling from Florida
  • NWA Florida Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA Florida Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
  • NWA Florida Television Championship (1 time)
  • NWA North American Tag Team Championship (Florida version) (1 time) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
  • NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship (Florida version) (2 times)
  • NWA World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
• Eastern Championship Wrestling / Extreme Championship Wrestling1
  • ECW Television Championship (1 time)
  • ECW World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)2
  • Hardcore Hall of Fame (2005)[20]
• Georgia Championship Wrestling
  • NWA Georgia Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
  • NWA Georgia Television Championship (1 time)
• International Wrestling Association of Japan
  • IWA World Heavyweight Championship (2 times)
• Juggalo Championship Wrestling
  • JCW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
• Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling / World Championship Wrestling
  • NWA United States Heavyweight Championship (Mid-Atlantic version) (1 time)
  • WCW Hardcore Championship (3 times)
  • WCW United States Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • WCW Hall of Fame (Class of 1995)
• NWA Hollywood Wrestling
  • NWA Americas Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • NWA International Tag Team Championship (3 times) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
  • NWA World Tag Team Championship (Los Angeles version) (1 time) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
• NWA Western States Sports
  • NWA Brass Knuckles Championship (Amarillo version) (2 times)
  • NWA International Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
  • NWA Western States Heavyweight Championship (7 times)
  • NWA Western States Tag Team Championship (2 times) – with Ricky Romero
  • NWA World Tag Team Championship (Texas version) (2 times) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
• Pro-Pain Pro Wrestling
  • 3PW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
• Pro Wrestling Illustrated
  • PWI Feud of the Year (1989) vs. Ric Flair
  • PWI Most Inspirational Wrestler of the Year (1997)[21]
  • PWI Wrestler of the Year (1976)
• Professional Wrestling Hall of Fame and Museum
  • Class of 2004
• Southwest Championship Wrestling
  • SCW Southwest Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
  • SCW World Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Dory Funk, Jr.
• St. Louis Wrestling Club
  • NWA Missouri Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
• Stampede Wrestling
  • Stampede Wrestling Hall of Fame[22]
• United States Wrestling Association
  • USWA Unified World Heavyweight Championship (1 time)
• World Wrestling Federation / World Wrestling Entertainment
  • WWF Tag Team Championship (1 time) – with Cactus Jack
  • WWE Hall of Fame (Class of 2009)

• National Wrestling Alliance

• NWA Hall of Fame (Class of 2009)[23]

• Wrestling Observer Newsletter awards
  • 5 Star Match (1984) with Dory Funk, Jr. vs. Bruiser Brody and Stan Hansen on December 8
  • Best Brawler (1989)
  • Best Heel (1989)
  • Best on Interviews (1989)
  • Feud of the Year (1989) vs. Ric Flair
  • Wrestling Observer Newsletter Hall of Fame (Class of 1996)

Vince135792003

Since this board generally has people around a certain age, I will nominate the voice of our age:

Jim Ross

Rjd2

The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be.:)

Ohio Valley Wrestling
OVW Southern Tag Team Championship (1 time)[58] – with Brent Albright
World League Wrestling
WLW Heavyweight Championship (1 time)[59]

That's all the awards but sure some legends are late bloomers.

waltersobchak

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be.:)

Might aswell end the nominations now, the winner has been found:pac:

Gerard.C

Doesn't post-draft mean after the draft is over though?

Anyway, Austin

D2D

Gerard.C wrote: »

Doesn't post-draft mean after the draft is over though?

Anyway, Austin

Yes, it does but I'm only getting the nominations for this

Gerard.C

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Yes, it does but I'm only getting the nominations for this

Whats the format, do we each only get to nominate one person or whats the story?

D2D

Gerard.C wrote: »

Whats the format, do we each only get to nominate one person or whats the story?

No, you can nominate away more than once. Also, you can nominate a wrestler/announcer who someone else picked e.g.someone else can nominate Terry Funk.

Machismo Fan

Don't know how anybody can overlook:

sky88

Rjd2 wrote: »

The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be.:)






That's all the awards but sure some legends are late bloomers.

if not this man then hbk

Gerard.C

Vince Snr and Jnr too. There's so many people that could be nominated from all over the world!!

D2D

Hero of modern times



Hero in general

Both deserving of HoF places, imo

Gerard.C

Misawa, Kobashi, Rikidozan, Baba, Tiger Mask, Santo, .... jesus I cant even think of half the names!

waltersobchak

Jolt2007

Lou Thesz


Bruno Sammartino


Andre The Giant


Gorgeous George


Mark Henry

D2D

Bret Hart


The Rock


Eddie Guerrero


"Rowdy" Roddy Piper


Ricky "The Dragon" Steamboat

waltersobchak

waltersobchak wrote: »

+1

Jolt2007 wrote:

Mark Henry

Thats when the list fell flat.....


and

D2D

Snuka


Mr Perfect


Ted DiBiase


Stu Hart


Owen Hart


Dusty Rhodes


HHH

Tricity Bendix

The original Nature Boy Buddy Rogers.


The Snake-Man, Jake 'The Snake' Roberts.

The Volt

JIMMY WANG YANG

JP Liz V1

2 legends gone but not forgotten

campo

my vote would also go to Hogan and not trying to start a flame war or anything but there is no way Benoit should be considered IMHO

Cactus Colm

I'm a bit wary of nominating anyone ... don't want to give anybody any ideas!


But ... can I suggest a Corridor of Infamy as part of the Hall of Fame. Where the worst gimmicks / angles / matches / etc can go.

And immediately I'd nominate THE SHOCKMASTER! because I'm too lazy to think of anyone/thing else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjGvaK2iR_E

Also ... would it be an idea to induct several people at a time, per categories ie, induct a wrestler known for their technique, brawling, tag teams, entertainment value, etc.

D2D

campo wrote: »

my vote would also go to Hogan and not trying to start a flame war or anything but there is no way Benoit should be considered IMHO

Benoit the wrestler should be inducted. He was technically sound and 1 of the best wrestlers ever imho. What Benoit did is unforgivable but there's no denying he was 1 of the best wrestlers around

Bounty Hunter

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Benoit the wrestler should be inducted. He was technically sound and 1 of the best wrestlers ever imho. What Benoit did is unforgivable but there's no denying he was 1 of the best wrestlers around

id agree with that but somehow doubt he will get in this year, nominated yes but cant see him getting more votes than some of the other names this time considering the hall of fame is currently empty.

paddyismaddy

the entire hart family stu, owen, bret and the son in laws and grandkids

flahavaj

Pretty much everyone named here would be a good entrabt to a hall of fame.

But if you're asking for one name that deserves to be inducted first before everyone else it would have to be Hogan.

SlickRic

flahavaj wrote: »

But if you're asking for one name that deserves to be inducted first before everyone else it would have to be Hogan.

agreed.

there can only ever be one 'first' or 'pioneer'.

and yes, Hogan's dislikeable, but he has to be given his dues.

even Flair would agree.

Headshot

Vince135792003

This idea is good but needs a little shape to it I think.

Maybe the top 25 posters could privately PM a ballot of their chosen 10 people to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.

Dare 2 Defy could count up the votes and announce the top 5 being inducted the night before Wrestlemania?

After that everyone could release their ballot and some discussion could be had.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

This idea is good but needs a little shape to it I think.

Maybe the top 25 posters could privately PM a ballot of their chosen 10 people to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.

Dare 2 Defy could count up the votes and announce the top 5 being inducted the night before Wrestlemania?

After that everyone could release their ballot and some discussion could be had.

Yeah its a mess at the moment.

I think it should somehow involve a poll where people can vote on the most suitable oerson to go in. The issue isn't really whether the wresrtlers nominated in this thread are suitable, the real issue is who deserves to go in forst IMO. They'll all end up in it eventually anyway if it runs long enough.

The real debate should be whether Hogan, Austin, Rock or Sammartino should have the honour of getting in first.

Vince135792003

flahavaj wrote: »

Yeah its a mess at the moment.

I think it should somehow involve a poll where people can vote on the most suitable oerson to go in. The issue isn't really whether the wresrtlers nominated in this thread are suitable, the real issue is who deserves to go in forst IMO. They'll all end up in it eventually anyway if it runs long enough.

The real debate should be whether Hogan, Austin, Rock or Sammartino should have the honour of getting in first.

I think a private ballot is best. Everyone has a top 5 or 10. Maybe give points for each pick (highest points for number 1 pick etc...)

I also think that perhaps a time frame should be put on it. Like we can all read books and watch youtube but at the end of the day, I can't say if Freddie Blassie was better than Buddy Rogers or if Rogers was better than Thez

Rjd2

Vince135792003 wrote: »

This idea is good but needs a little shape to it I think.

Maybe the top 25 posters could privately PM a ballot of their chosen 10 people to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.

.

How on earth do you decide who is the top 25 posters though? Is that by post count or something?

Vince135792003

Rjd2 wrote: »

How on earth do you decide who is the top 25 posters though? Is that by post count or something?

It was done for the draft based on post count. Or let everyone vote. That part of it really doesn't matter.

flahavaj

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I think a private ballot is best. Everyone has a top 5 or 10. Maybe give points for each pick (highest points for number 1 pick etc...)

I also think that perhaps a time frame should be put on it. Like we can all read books and watch youtube but at the end of the day, I can't say if Freddie Blassie was better than Buddy Rogers or if Rogers was better than Thez

What are the criteria the observer uses for its HOF. Thats the most legit HOF in the business and should be followed as closely as possible IMO. I know guys can only be nominated if they've been in the business for 15 or 20 yers AFAIK, like Jericho was only eligible in the last few years.

Degag

Surely this man should be an automatic entrant:



Other than that, i think everyone should have a vote. I 'd be happy to tally votes etc .

D2D

Vince135792003 wrote: »

This idea is good but needs a little shape to it I think.

Maybe the top 25 posters could privately PM a ballot of their chosen 10 people to be inducted in the Hall of Fame.

Dare 2 Defy could count up the votes and announce the top 5 being inducted the night before Wrestlemania?

After that everyone could release their ballot and some discussion could be had.

That's an awesome idea but not with the top 25 posters only voting. People who contribute in PW (be it consistently or casually) should have a say in this.

How about we do what WWE does? By that I mean, I'll release 1 inductee a week (hopefully, we'll have a class of 7), then the night before Mania, the HoF thread is started up and 7 users could do a write-up/speech about an inductee e.g BH does Hogan, Pingu does Lex Luger, Rjd2 does Masters (assuming they both get in) and their achievments.

Degag_, I'm going to take up your offer of help. If I'm going to be offline for a while, I'll let you know and you can "take the reigns". If ye want, send in yer choices to me (or Degag_ if I'm offline).

gimmick

7 is too many. 2 maximum. Otherwise its just cluttered.

The private ballot is best also, as the beginning of this thread was a mess. I would say have everyone who wishes to be part, subit 3 who they think should be in the top 3. Then when tallied, open a poll of the top 5 most nominated, and the top 2 get the nod?

Bounty Hunter

gimmick wrote: »

7 is too many. 2 maximum. Otherwise its just cluttered.

The private ballot is best also, as the beginning of this thread was a mess. I would say have everyone who wishes to be part, subit 3 who they think should be in the top 3. Then when tallied, open a poll of the top 5 most nominated, and the top 2 get the nod?

i agree with that mostly but in the first year of the hall of fame wouldent be against letting in 5 or so as anyone we put in at this stage will be without question HOF worthy as far as im concerned.

Cactus Colm

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

i agree with that mostly but in the first year of the hall of fame wouldent be against letting in 5 or so as anyone we put in at this stage will be without question HOF worthy as far as im concerned.

I was thinking, as it's the first year, may as well get a few in from different categories. ie Wrester, Female, Tag Team, Backstage, and Entertainer.

So you might Nominate Ric Flair as best wrestler, Manami Toyota for Female, The Midnight Express for best Tag, Pat Patterson for backstage (creating the Royal Rumble alone makes him worthy of HOF), and Goldust for Entertainer.

We're all fairly smart here, so I think it's important to recognise the contributions of people behind the scenes as well as the wrestlers themselves. People like Pat Patterson and Jim Johnston.

D2D

Cactus Colm wrote: »

I was thinking, as it's the first year, may as well get a few in from different categories. ie Wrester, Female, Tag Team, Backstage, and Entertainer.

So you might Nominate Ric Flair as best wrestler, Manami Toyota for Female, The Midnight Express for best Tag, Pat Patterson for backstage (creating the Royal Rumble alone makes him worthy of HOF), and Goldust for Entertainer.

I'm not entirely sold on the categories idea, if i'm honest. I know it's only an example but I can't picture Goldust on a HoF

I think that only the best should go into the HoF.

Gerard.C

There should be some sort of categorys, IMO. Other wise its going to be the predictable Austin, Hogan, McMahon, Rock craic

Bounty Hunter

Cactus Colm wrote: »

I was thinking, as it's the first year, may as well get a few in from different categories. ie Wrester, Female, Tag Team, Backstage, and Entertainer.

So you might Nominate Ric Flair as best wrestler, Manami Toyota for Female, The Midnight Express for best Tag, Pat Patterson for backstage (creating the Royal Rumble alone makes him worthy of HOF), and Goldust for Entertainer.

We're all fairly smart here, so I think it's important to recognise the contributions of people behind the scenes as well as the wrestlers themselves. People like Pat Patterson and Jim Johnston.

I kinda agree with this but as was said dunno about the entertainer catagory although obviously Goldust would not be the first inductee on this part. id just tweak the name so we could possiby get guys who maybe arent brilliant wrestlers but were brilliant like Foley

Cactus Colm

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

I'm not entirely sold on the categories idea, if i'm honest. I know it's only an example but I can't picture Goldust on a HoF

I think that only the best should go into the HoF.

Gerard.C wrote: »

There should be some sort of categories, IMO. Other wise its going to be the predictable Austin, Hogan, McMahon, Rock craic

That's exactly why I think there should be categories. Goldust, I think was an important wrestler for the attitude era. Certainly he may never have been main eventing, but he helped set the tone. People like Santino Marella and Honky Tonk Man, will never set the ring on fire, but they will provide great entertainment too, and I think should be recognised for it.

I kinda agree with this but as was said dunno about the entertainer catagory although obviously Goldust would not be the first inductee on this part. id just tweak the name so we could possiby get guys who maybe arent brilliant wrestlers but were brilliant like Foley

But Foley was a great brawler. He wasn't your classic technical wrestler, but certainly in his own style was up there.

Maybe Goldust wouldn't get in there ... but I'm sure you get what I'm saying anyway.

Gerard.C

Personally, i would say one or two americans, one mexican, one jap, one non wrestler or something like that. It'd be a shame if Goldust was in a HOF and Santo wasnt like

Vince135792003

Gerard.C wrote: »

There should be some sort of categorys, IMO. Other wise its going to be the predictable Austin, Hogan, McMahon, Rock craic

I think if you only limited entry to say 3 to 5 guys every year, that would make it very unpredictable. You could then have lots of discussion as to why one should go in ahead of the other.

I would still maintain a private ballot would be best.

Polls are put up here quite regularly for all sorts of things. A private ballot makes the whole thing a little bit more special to me.

Also which is going to sound hypocritical from me who wanted no time limit in the draft, I think there should be 1 on here. We should only judge people who we have completely seen. I can't say if Thez should go in ahead of Buddy Rogers or vice versa. Pretending otherwise would make the whole thing a bit of a pompous excercise to me.

To make sure legendary people get in, 1 or 2 legends who obviously should get in, would get in each year with someone maybe writing about them.

These are just my suggestions anyway.

I

Bounty Hunter

if you think there should be catogories people should start nominating more tag teams, women, managers etc

Gerard.C

Hows this

2 Americans Singles wrestlers (one post 1980, one pre, for example)
1 American Tag team
1 American non-wrestler
1 Japanese Singles/tag team
1 Mexican singles/tag team

Just a rough idea

Bounty Hunter

Gerard.C wrote: »

Hows this

2 Americans Singles wrestlers (one post 1980, one pre, for example)
1 American Tag team
1 American non-wrestler
1 Japanese Singles/tag team
1 Mexican singles/tag team

Just a rough idea

the inaugural class of the Boards.ie Hall Of Fame could be something like this then:

Flair, Hogan, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Vince McMahon, Kobashi & Misawa and Santo



Mmm 3 member so the BWA roster

Gerard.C

Bounty Hunter wrote: »

the inaugural class of the Boards.ie Hall Of Fame could be something like this then:

Flair, Hogan, Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard, Vince McMahon, Kobashi & Misawa and Santo



Mmm 3 member so the BWA roster

Exactly, something like that. The jap/mex wrestlers would be an interesting history lesson for many people on here too.

I'd put Michaels in before Hogan, since he's all round better than Hogan :pac: