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Akita, Family Pet?

  • 19-02-2010 12:48pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭


    Hi, I am looking into the Japaneese Akita as a Family pet.I have read pieces about them but want first hand information about them and young Children.I have had Rotties and am used to the larger Dog.Thanks for your replies in advance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭you*ess*bee


    When I was younger we had a Japanese Spitz, which is a miniature version of the Akita. She was the most gentle, and loving dog we have ever had. Plus she was highly intelligent, and trained very easily. She lived a good long life, with no major health problems.

    Hope this helps :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    I only know of one person who owns one, so this is hardly a breed review, but her dog is large, loyal, intelligent, easily bored, excellent with HER children, excellent with her and her husband and EXTREMELY watchful and wary of strangers. He is well socialised which is very important, but even then his 'guard' tendency is high. He also needs a fair bit of exercise and because of the law now has to wear a muzzle when out, even though he has never shown any inclination to bite.
    He is aggressive towards other male dogs and is rather strong, but he is quiet in the house and would probably follow her nine year old son across hot coals if the boy asked him. He sleeps in the child's room at night and has seemingly worked out what time the boy returns from school during the day because the woman says no matter where he is in the property he goes to the front door about ten minutes before the lad arrives home. I can't say if they would be suited to a family with very small children as they are a bit excitable, but if you're used to large dogs I can't imagine you would have any trouble. (Rotties are pretty stranger wary and strong anyway, as far as I know)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    Thanks for that ,Yes I dont have a problem with them being large etc etc. I have a five year old and a little one due anytime soon and am thinking of getting the dog asap to be part of the latest addition.I never had problems with the rotts and they were well socialised with children .I am trying to get a feel for the Akita from owners as the books dont really tell it as it is. Thanks again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    When I was younger we had a Japanese Spitz, which is a miniature version of the Akita. She was the most gentle, and loving dog we have ever had. Plus she was highly intelligent, and trained very easily. She lived a good long life, with no major health problems.

    Hope this helps :)

    They are two completely different breeds though. The Japanese Spitz is a small dog bred for companionship. It is a relatively new breed- created in the early 1900s. The Akita is a large dog and is bred and used for guarding, hunting and police work, and has been around for centuries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    No probs, they seem to be fine dogs, her dog is lovely. But not the sort of dog for the first time owner. But as you say you have experience with large guarding breeds, so I cannot imagine you might have a problem. I do like how loyal the dog is with her son. Good luck no matter what breed you choose. FMC

    EDIT, I mentioned he is good with her children as a salient point, as he does NOT like other children over playing. He finds it rather stressful if other kids are running around and/or 'bashing into' her son, what you and I might consider normal rough and tumble. Because of this he needs to be shut in when other kids visit- which of course annoys him, but the owner is right not to take any risk. Again, good luck, lovely dogs, but a lot of initial work and again I should say what I say is not a breed overall, just one dog.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    I would be inclined to hold off until the new addition is a little older. A new baby into the house can be a very big thing and if you have a pup around too you might not have time for it and be able to put in all the necessary time for training and socialisation.

    As a rottie owner i spent a huge amount of time at training classes and socialisation with him but it paid off and i have a fab dog now with a great temperament but it took up a lot of my time.

    So i would advise waiting until your new baby is a little older before getting such a big breed that needs a lot of time from day one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 marley007


    Hey, I have an Akita myself and to be quiet honest i probably wouldnt bring one into a home with children their a great pet and all but they need a serious amount of time and attention.....mine is the most stubborn dog ever! Around children they are quiet rough, eg, she has chased many children when they run because she thinks they re playing and has knocked them down loads of times! so now when my family call i have to put her into her house.

    Mine is also mad about playing tug of war and taking food off any child she finds, which can scare the bejeesus out of them! she has never bitten anyone but their extremely protective so even if the dog is ok with your kids she woundnt take well to other kids calling around. :cool:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    andreac wrote: »
    I would be inclined to hold off until the new addition is a little older. A new baby into the house can be a very big thing and if you have a pup around too you might not have time for it and be able to put in all the necessary time for training and socialisation.

    As a rottie owner i spent a huge amount of time at training classes and socialisation with him but it paid off and i have a fab dog now with a great temperament but it took up a lot of my time.

    So i would advise waiting until your new baby is a little older before getting such a big breed that needs a lot of time from day one.


    Yes I understand were you are coming from but He wont be going to Training/obedience classes till he is appx six months.I just want him sniffing around etc etc.I want him used to the cries screams from the baby(maybe me) as well.He will be going to a training kennels as this is what I did in the past and it worked out nice.I live beside the Beach so He will be kept active from day one.I will be keeping him indoors from day one as this one will be a housedog.
    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,957 ✭✭✭Magenta


    Yes I understand were you are coming from but He wont be going to Training/obedience classes till he is appx six months.I just want him sniffing around etc etc.I want him used to the cries screams from the baby(maybe me) as well.He will be going to a training kennels as this is what I did in the past and it worked out nice.I live beside the Beach so He will be kept active from day one.I will be keeping him indoors from day one as this one will be a housedog.
    Thanks

    Sorry but if you want a well behaved dog that will see you as his leader, you have to train them from day one and you have to do it yourself.
    If you leave it til he is 6 months old he is already going to be in a lot of bad habits and he will already have grown very big and possibly be hard to control.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 marley007


    Well waiting till 6 months with an akita is a bad idea! their too strong willed to pay any attention to new commands at that stage.

    Also keeping and akita as a house dog is demented! Thay shed HEAVILY twice a year, i only leave mine in occasionally and she still broke my hover due to heavy shedding! Their shedding can last a good while too as in 6 -8 weeks per time!

    I'd suggest really rethinking the idea!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭andreac


    Sorry but this isnt a good idea, training a dog like this starts from the minute they come to your house. A big breed like this can be a handful and if left until 6 months to start training is asking for trouble.

    Training classes and socialisation can be started from about 3 months of age and the earlier its started the better.

    Do you mean you are going to send the dog away to be trained? because again i do not agree with this method of training.

    Training any dog is about building up a relationship wit your dog and is as much about training the handler as well as the dog so i really would urge you to consider this whole idea of an Akita if this is the way you are going to handle the situation as i dont think it will be a good idea for a breed of dog like an Akita.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    I will be doing all the usual basic training myself ie;Toilet Sit Stay etc but when he is Appx six months he will be getting profesionally trained for about 2/3 weeks whilst in kennels. I have done this with all my Rotties and have had the best Trained Dogs.This time I want a House Dog ,Yes he may be big but not as big as my Friends GreatDanexMastiff that has his own couch.I will try and get a picture up. Yes I want peoples thoughts as everyone knows there is a lot going on with Dog ownership.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Have you seen this (from an Akita breeder)?
    http://www.tamarlane.com/akitatemp.htm

    Especially the bit about strange children would convince me that an Akita is not the ideal family pet (and quite a different proposition than a well trained, docile Rottie)

    Edit:
    Having read this, I also think that having an Akita trained by someone else is probably going to backfire ... bigtime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    peasant wrote: »
    Have you seen this (from an Akita breeder)?
    http://www.tamarlane.com/akitatemp.htm

    Especially the bit about strange children would convince me that an Akita is not the ideal family pet (and quite a different proposition than a well trained, docile Rottie)

    Edit:
    Having read this, I also think that having an Akita trained by someone else is probably going to backfire ... bigtime.

    I wont mention were I used in the past but this Guy had 30 plus years training dogs experience.Dogs for customs & Police have gotten trained by him . I DO go up 2/3 times a week to be trained as well and both the dog and I interact that way.I have spoken to 7/8 owners and NOT one has said a bad thing about them in relation to their family.I do understand about strangers neighbourss kids coming to my home but THAT wont be an issue as there is a pen for him when I need to segregate him.Yes I like to hear different views BUT I would not put the risk of a family before an animal.As much as I had trust in my rotts ,I was always one step ahead.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    I wont mention were I used in the past but this Guy had 30 plus years training dogs experience.Dogs for customs & Police have gotten trained by him .

    What I was getting at is not the capability of your chosen trainer, but rather the willingness of your chosen dog to be trained :D (by a stranger of all things)

    Handing over a basically biddable dog like a Rottie or GSD for training is one thing ...trying the same with a highly independent breed won't work, especially not if the same methods were used .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    peasant wrote: »
    Have you seen this (from an Akita breeder)?
    http://www.tamarlane.com/akitatemp.htm

    Especially the bit about strange children would convince me that an Akita is not the ideal family pet (and quite a different proposition than a well trained, docile Rottie)

    Edit:
    Having read this, I also think that having an Akita trained by someone else is probably going to backfire ... bigtime.


    Thanks for the link. I was bitten twice in my life.Once aged six or so by My Mothers Poodle.That dog never saw the end of the day. Then again by an Aunts Shih tzu.That too was put down.Yes the Bigger the dog the bigger the damage but like everything in life you have to be carefull. By the way those two dogs didnt like anyone coming into contact with their owners which was not really on seeing it was my Mam.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    Are they as Highly intelligent as a German Sheppard?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭jinxycat


    Hiya, I'm currently minding an Akita which I've had almost two years due to the owners building a house and have no where to keep the dog right now. They have a family of five children and the Akita is very good with the children when they come to visit.

    Initially I was worried that the dog wouldn't be used to the children as she wasn't living with them and they weren't around her continously, but she's great with them. I will admit though that when she gets giddy she can be a little too hyper around them and may bump into them but never hurts them.

    I would recommend though training the dog yourself, I see no problem with them being a house dog either, Millie, the dog i'm minding is too. She's well house trained. I would also say they do need alot of time, ie playing with them and walking otherwise they'll get bored and chew everything. This is speaking from experience :D:D

    I'd also like the add that the children range from 5 months to 8 years of age.

    PS regarding the shedding, in my experience they shed lots when they aren't kept groomed. The coat needs to be plucked before being brushed.

    Hope this post helps you out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    I personally wouldn't bring such a stong, independant, willful dog into the home situation you have at the moment but as you seem to have made your mind up to get one I would suggest the following:
    1. Research the breeder v.carefully and when you find one you're comfortable with make sure you meet the mother and any other relations to get an idea of the temperament within the bloodline. Asks questions, questions and more question, are the parents health checked, how old is the mother, how many litters has she had, does the breeder recommend them with children etc. All of this will not only give you an idea of what kind of breeder the breeder is but also the kind of dogs they breed.
    2. Be careful about picking your pup, never take the one who huddles in the corner, nor the one who doesn't respect your space. I try go for the one who will approach you but doesn't demand attention, the one who will allow you to pick it up and inspect it without too much fuss or struggle.
    3. Do not leave it until 6 months to get your pup professionally trained, that's a recipe for disaster, nor would I suggest sending this breed away to be trained. Akita's are not Rotties and although I don't like the idea of any dog being sent away to be trained Rotties are a family dog who thrive on human interaction and so will forgive you quicker if you are absent from training, Akita's are alot more independant and don't bond as easily as a Rottie so you being absent from training is you losing out on a v.important bonding experience with the dog. Early professional training done with you will not only build a super foundation for life it will also help build a stronger bond, the bond you won't get from sending your dog away to be train, not to mention the satisfaction you will get yourself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Are they as Highly intelligent as a German Sheppard?
    I would say that they are much more intelligent than a GSD ...in that they just don't do what doesn't make sense to them :D

    But if you define intelligence as to how co-operative they are and how quickly they learn commands, you will probably find them rather "dumb"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭jinxycat


    peasant wrote: »
    I would say that they are much more intelligent than a GSD ...in that they just don't do what doesn't make sense to them :D

    But if you define intelligence as to how co-operative they are and how quickly they learn commands, you will probably find them rather "dumb"

    Yes this is quite true, they can play "dumb" when they're learning commands. It takes alot of patience when training them and it will probably take that bit longer to train them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    Are they as Highly intelligent as a German Sheppard?

    The are an intelligent, the only difficulty with training them is that the won't do something unless they see a really good reason to do it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    jinxycat wrote: »
    Hiya, I'm currently minding an Akita which I've had almost two years due to the owners building a house and have no where to keep the dog right now. They have a family of five children and the Akita is very good with the children when they come to visit.

    Initially I was worried that the dog wouldn't be used to the children as she wasn't living with them and they weren't around her continously, but she's great with them. I will admit though that when she gets giddy she can be a little too hyper around them and may bump into them but never hurts them.

    I would recommend though training the dog yourself, I see no problem with them being a house dog either, Millie, the dog i'm minding is too. She's well house trained. I would also say they do need alot of time, ie playing with them and walking otherwise they'll get bored and chew everything. This is speaking from experience :D:D

    I'd also like the add that the children range from 5 months to 8 years of age.

    PS regarding the shedding, in my experience they shed lots when they aren't kept groomed. The coat needs to be plucked before being brushed.

    Hope this post helps you out.


    Thats great. I am beside the Beach any am always down there so I hope He likes water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭therewillbe


    Ok,Thanks guys. What I have read and learned here is that they have to be trained a lot younger.Point Taken.They demand a lot of attention.Some are for house dog some aint.But more inportantly I HAVNT heard/read a bad story about this breed with young Children.I will contact my Dog Trainer and see what his view is and I will accecpt that.

    I would like to thank everyone who posted. I will post some pictures and updates in the future.

    T W B.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    Hi, I just thought i would give my 2 pence worth to this.

    I currently own 2 female America Akitas, 2.5 years old, sisters.

    I love them to bits, they are amazing dogs and i wouldnt change them for any other dog...so here would be my pro's and con's on getting one as a family pet: (speaking on behalf of my two anyways)

    Pro's:
    - Very loyal and protective...they get on great with dogs they know and family and friends.
    - Very intelligent...
    - Super clean...they clean themselves like cats, and my two only foul the very very back of the garden...never anywhere else.
    - Super quiet...some of my friends have actually never heard them bark...you will only hear them if a stanger approaches the house.
    - Very affectionate and love attention.

    Con's
    - On the restricted breeds list which makes walkies a nigthmare...especially if you have visions of playing in the park.
    - They have no desire to play fetch or other games whatsoever unless its for their own benfit...so kids find them kinda boring.
    - Their recall is very select...
    - They are very aloof...if they dont want to do something they won't...not for all the treats in your pocket...they are so headstrong, this makes training very difficult.
    - They will require constant training and authority, or they can get bold very quickly...leaving it 6 months is to late...you need to set the standards from day one. They dont take well to being given out to at all...the more you shout they bolder they become, so they require firm but patient leadership.
    This can be very testing...

    All in all, they are amazing dogs...Mine get on great with nieces and nephews, but will generally say hello and leave it at that. They are very strong and play rough (very rough with eachother).

    When i got mine i heard horror stories of Akitas being savages "he can only feed it by throwing food out the back garden window"...

    My two live indoors, they love to sit under my feet and snooze all evening.
    They love belly rubs and pets...
    They hate being left alone, and if you plan to leave it in the garden all day, with no human contact i would believe they would go wild...

    Anyways, hope my input helped...i would love to see more Akitas in Ireland...but only once they are looked after, not left to go wild and give the rest of them a bad name :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Our one is male has not lived with kids except for the crucial first six months of his life but is fine around them, you just have to be careful that they don't knock kids over. Another thing to watch out for is some akitas tend to want to "hold" peoples hand's ..which scares people when those big jaws open and tries to engulf their hand as they reach out to pet them

    I'm sure someone has probably already pointed out that this breed was once used to watch over children.

    TBH there's so many other variables at play in the equation that it's not wise to make a judgment on breed alone but bear in mind that when things go wrong with BIG dogs they can go wrong in a BIG way :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 303 ✭✭Discostuy


    Bambi wrote: »
    Another thing to watch out for is some akitas tend to want to "hold" peoples hand's ..which scares people when those big jaws open and tries to engulf their hand as they reach out to pet them

    I'm sure someone has probably already pointed out that this breed was once used to watch over children.

    I forgot about the "mouthing" thing. When i get home, Koko will run and pick up the first thing she can find and bring it to you...where as Cody does this "handshake" thing...some people see it as biting, but she tries to lead you places or she just wants all your attention...its not a bite, she just holds your hand as Bambi says


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    Discostuy wrote: »
    Hi, I just thought i would give my 2 pence worth to this.

    I currently own 2 female America Akitas, 2.5 years old, sisters.

    I love them to bits, they are amazing dogs and i wouldnt change them for any other dog...so here would be my pro's and con's on getting one as a family pet: (speaking on behalf of my two anyways)

    Pro's:
    - Very loyal and protective...they get on great with dogs they know and family and friends.
    - Very intelligent...
    - Super clean...they clean themselves like cats, and my two only foul the very very back of the garden...never anywhere else.
    - Super quiet...some of my friends have actually never heard them bark...you will only hear them if a stanger approaches the house.
    - Very affectionate and love attention.

    Con's
    - On the restricted breeds list which makes walkies a nigthmare...especially if you have visions of playing in the park.
    - They have no desire to play fetch or other games whatsoever unless its for their own benfit...so kids find them kinda boring.
    - Their recall is very select...
    - They are very aloof...if they dont want to do something they won't...not for all the treats in your pocket...they are so headstrong, this makes training very difficult.
    - They will require constant training and authority, or they can get bold very quickly...leaving it 6 months is to late...you need to set the standards from day one. They dont take well to being given out to at all...the more you shout they bolder they become, so they require firm but patient leadership.
    This can be very testing...

    All in all, they are amazing dogs...Mine get on great with nieces and nephews, but will generally say hello and leave it at that. They are very strong and play rough (very rough with eachother).

    When i got mine i heard horror stories of Akitas being savages "he can only feed it by throwing food out the back garden window"...

    My two live indoors, they love to sit under my feet and snooze all evening.
    They love belly rubs and pets...
    They hate being left alone, and if you plan to leave it in the garden all day, with no human contact i would believe they would go wild...

    Anyways, hope my input helped...i would love to see more Akitas in Ireland...but only once they are looked after, not left to go wild and give the rest of them a bad name :D

    This is by FAR the BEST description of Akitas that you could ask for. I have a 3 year old intact male and as of last week, we now have a 9 week old bitch, and I couldn't agree more with everything Discostuy said ;)

    My lad, Loki is very, very loyal and he is very protective (not in any way aggressive though) of the house and his family. He never, ever barks unless there's something wrong but he does "Whistle" a fair bit and every now and again, he lets out a nice loud howl (only for 2 seconds). He's also very clean. Not only in the toilet department as Discostuy said, but any mud or dirt that gets on his coat falls out as sson as it dries. Speaking of his coat, he does blow it twice a year and you will not believe how much hair comes off him! You need to brush everyday when this happens and give him at least one bath to loosen the hair. Apart from that, they shed very little. He's a very affectionate dog and loves attention but won't play any games, fetch etc for longer than 2 mins(you'll be lucky to get much). They are seriously headstrong and very "Un-Doglike" in their thinking. They are aloof, stubborn and very clever so training from the get go is essential and what works for most dogs, might not work with an Akita as they think so differently. As said above, their loyalty and requirement for firm training means that you'll really be better off training him yourself rather than sending him away. I really don't think that will work with an akita. As for their alledged dog aggression and prey drive, I have 2 cavaliers that sleep on him and hang out of him all the time and he's great with them. He's also great with the new puppy but LOADS of socialisation is essential with them too. We don't have kids but nieces, nephews, friends kids and the kids in the estate will rub him, pull out of him, hug him etc whenever they get a chance and he loves it! Like any dog though, I wouldn't leave him alone with a child under any circumstances. They aren't super-active and will sleep all day if given the option but they really enjoy a long walk/run and should be brought out as much as possible (within reason - over excercise within the first 2 years can be very detrimental to your dogs health) Don't ever get an akita if you intend to leave it alone out the back all day and night. They are seriously social dogs and need to be with their families. Left alone, an akita will be a very unhappy, very destructive and very unstable dog. My dogs are out in a run for 30%-40% of the day but they spend the remainder inside. As DiscoStuy said again, their recall can be very selective and as they're on the restricted breed list, it's tough to find a place where you can actually let them off leash for a run.

    Overall they are absolutely amazing dogs! I'm delighted that I now have 2 Akitas but if there was any way I could have more, I'd do it in a heartbeat! I wouldn't change them for anything but they are not your "Standard" dog. They need extra effort but they repay all that extra work by being simply, the best dogs you could ever hope for.

    Also, like Rotties and Staffs they get some bad press so be prepared for the occasional ignorant fool that passes comment on you for having a Devil dog :mad:

    I know I basically repeated everything discostuy said but I had to throw in my 2 cents too :D


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    Apologies for joining this thread a little late but felt it was a good place to ask the question.

    I'd love to get an Akita (taking all the pros and cons into consideration, i think they're just amazing animals) - do any of you work in the day and have an akita? If so, how do you manage?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    I have 2 :D
    My OH isn't working now but we both did when he had our first Akita. Once they're walked and given plenty of attention you'll do fine but they aren't a dog that can be left alone all the time (well no dog should be really) cos they just love being with their family so much that they can act out and develop behaviour issues. We already had 2 cavaliers when we got our first Akita so he had some company when we went to work but I wouldn't recommend getting a second dog until your first Akita is a bit older and you have its training nailed. they are quite headstrong and difficult to train so take a lot if effort and having 2 yeung dogs would make that training very difficult. They really are incredible dogs though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jamesd


    Have a 1.5 Yr old american Akita oursleves and he's always in the house, causes no damage int he house at all and only chews on his own chew ropes or toys we give him. We dont have kids but he has had many kids / strangers in the house and once we are about he has been very good and gentle.
    Excellent guard dog when outside and we know if he barks that there is someone or soemthing about.
    Every evening at half 5 he goes to the window and watches out until I am home, my OH said he knows when i am coming and just rests his chin on the window sill.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    @adser @jamesd

    What do you think? Would it be cruel for me to get an akita or two when myself and my girlfriend work 9 - 6/7 ? I want to get them, i'd even try get walkers in during the week to take them for walks etc. They'd get plenty of exercise in the evenings and weekends - it's just the loneliness during the days that would bother me. Is this cruel?

    Would akitas do ok in dog day care?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    @adser @jamesd

    What do you think? Would it be cruel for me to get an akita or two when myself and my girlfriend work 9 - 6/7 ? I want to get them, i'd even try get walkers in during the week to take them for walks etc. They'd get plenty of exercise in the evenings and weekends - it's just the loneliness during the days that would bother me. Is this cruel?

    Would akitas do ok in dog day care?

    Personally speaking, it's my opinion that everyone has to work and if we didn't, we couldn't afford dogs in the first place. We were in the exact same situation as you and I would do nothing different if I had to do it all over again.

    Say you get your pup, one (or both) of you would ideally take a week off (at least) to get the dog settled and to start on toilet training. TT won't be accomplished overnight so expect some accidents over the coming weeks but I'm sure you expect this with any pup. So your off for a week, dogs settled and training started, you should also start getting the dog used to being on their own for periods of time.
    99.9% of dogs sleep most of the day when their owners are away. Akitas are no different and pups will especially sleep more. They also say that a pups excercise requirements are 5 minutes per month of age (i.e 4 months old = 20 minutes of excercise) to prevent any damage to your pups joints.

    Now I know some people on here will disagree with me but taking the above into account.... your new pup will be aclimatised to its new situation quite quickly, will sleep nearly all day and can only get 20 mins excercise a day anyway. By the time it's older, and needs more excercise, it will be perfectly used to being on its own during the day as it will know your home in the evening and thats when fun time is.
    The important thing really is that the dog is walked every night (and try for every morning too- even if it's only for 20 mins) and gets lots of time with you when you're home. I said already that Akitas "need" to be with their families but they are intelligent enough to realise when your not there and will sleep peacefully until you come home. Then they just want to be with you. Also, surprisingly for their size, their excercise requirements aren't huge and will do fine on short walks as well as day long hikes.

    My situation is very like yours and the dogs are only in when I'm home (so my OH really might as well be still working). They are walked almost every night (I say almost because sometimes I'm just too feckin tired!) and get brought up the mountains and such at the weekends for a good run around but are in every night (like I said, thats the important bit).

    I stand by my statement that you shouldn't get 2 together as pups as they will become too dependent on eachother and will most likely ignore you and they are hard enough to train as is. Get one, wait til he/she is a year or so old and then get another. Also I wouldnt recommend a same sex pairing as they seem to argue with eachother more so than a male-female pairing. I suppose thats the same for any breed really.

    Ah sure look I'm rambling now, you shouldnt get me started on these amazing dogs!

    Oh sorry,as for dog walkers, I've never used one but it can only help. As for doggy day care....hmmmm..... again I've never used them BUT being a restricted breed, they probably wont take akitas. It would do wonders for the dog if they did though as the socialisation it would get in a place like that would be brilliant. Training classes are also highly recommended to train you, your dog, develop a bond between yis and for socialisation.

    Jesus I'm out of breath! :D GO for it man, just don't leave the dog to live alone all the time and make sure to make it part of your family. Any other questions, feel free to ask and I'll try keep the answers shorter...I swear ;) Click on my sig to see pics of my 2 American Akitas too:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 564 ✭✭✭fishfoodie


    Great pics on your site Adser !!

    But don't you think you should warn other Akita owners about their obvious bog-hole problem :D

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    Always good to see these guys having fun !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    fishfoodie wrote: »
    Great pics on your site Adser !!

    But don't you think you should warn other Akita owners about their obvious bog-hole problem :D

    Always good to see these guys having fun !

    Thanks fishfoodie :D and I said nothin cos the joy of a filthy, sopping wet Akita, fresh from a bog hole, is a joy that all new Akita owners should discover for themselves lol :D:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,713 ✭✭✭lrushe


    adser53 wrote: »
    As for doggy day care....hmmmm..... again I've never used them BUT being a restricted breed, they probably wont take akitas.

    I know DTI take Akitas in their doggy daycare, DTI are 'friends' on my facebook page so I often see their pics of new dogs in daycare and there is definately an Akita there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    lrushe wrote: »
    I know DTI take Akitas in their doggy daycare, DTI are 'friends' on my facebook page so I often see their pics of new dogs in daycare and there is definately an Akita there.

    Ah deadly! I happily stand corrected on that :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jamesd


    A friend of mine has 2 akitas (2 yrs old now) and they are home alone all day in the back yard and seem very happy dogs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭Angelmangle


    I have to completely disagree with one of the earlier comments about Japanese Spitz and Akitas having similar temperaments. They don't!

    We had three Japanese Spitz for many years and they are fabulous dogs, the breed were initially bred solely as companion animals. We showed all of our dogs and I've meet quite a few Akita owners and their dogs through that and while I really like Akitas in my opinion they are in no way similar in temperament to the Spitz. I've found Akitas to be much more aloof and self contained with strangers and from what I've been told by their owners they take a lot of work and training. My male spitz was very friendly with everybody and the girls tended to keep themselves to themselves until they get to know you but I really don't think that the two breeds are in any way similar in their temperaments in my opinion :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    I have to completely disagree with one of the earlier comments about Japanese Spitz and Akitas having similar temperaments. They don't!

    We had three Japanese Spitz for many years and they are fabulous dogs, the breed were initially bred solely as companion animals. We showed all of our dogs and I've meet quite a few Akita owners and their dogs through that and while I really like Akitas in my opinion they are in no way similar in temperament to the Spitz. I've found Akitas to be much more aloof and self contained with strangers and from what I've been told by their owners they take a lot of work and training. My male spitz was very friendly with everybody and the girls tended to keep themselves to themselves until they get to know you but I really don't think that the two breeds are in any way similar in their temperaments in my opinion :o

    You're dead right. They're completely different


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    fishfoodie wrote: »
    Great pics on your site Adser !!

    But don't you think you should warn other Akita owners about their obvious bog-hole problem :D

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    9AB25F05D3B14439BB49C65B81BC74F0-800.jpg

    Always good to see these guys having fun !

    what are the halters on their muzzles?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    They're dogmatic head collars that you clip the leash onto rather than onto their collars. Actually Kai (the smaller akita) is wearing a Halti headcollar but they're basically the same. They just give you greater control when walking them and cause no pain or discomfort


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jamesd


    adser53 wrote: »
    They're dogmatic head collars that you clip the leash onto rather than onto their collars. Actually Kai (the smaller akita) is wearing a Halti headcollar but they're basically the same. They just give you greater control when walking them and cause no pain or discomfort

    What size of a dogmatic head collar is it? Are they adjustable? Would like to get one for our's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    Ill check when I get home. The bit around the head is adjustable but the bit around the muzzle isnt. Im nearly sure it says american akita on the sizing guide on their webbie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,064 ✭✭✭✭tk123


    lrushe wrote: »
    I know DTI take Akitas in their doggy daycare, DTI are 'friends' on my facebook page so I often see their pics of new dogs in daycare and there is definately an Akita there.

    Yep - he's friends with my golden retriever lol :pac::D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭jamesd


    adser53 wrote: »
    Ill check when I get home. The bit around the head is adjustable but the bit around the muzzle isnt. Im nearly sure it says american akita on the sizing guide on their webbie

    Found that, it says 5L, can they open their mouth with it on?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    jamesd wrote: »
    Found that, it says 5L, can they open their mouth with it on?
    I'm nearly sure that's the size I got. and yes they can. the muzzle bit is quite loose, asif they pull against you or attempt to drag you down the road, it tightens. Not in a painful, squeezing way, it just gives you more control over them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 398 ✭✭Tripp


    I have a Female American Akita and id agree with everything that Discostuy said about the Pros and cons of the breed.

    My akita is very loyal & protective of the Family and the House and will never bark unless something is wrong.
    They need so much attention when their pups , you have to train them from day 1 or your in for a tough time with them.

    Heres some pics of my Akita


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭adser53


    She's gorgeous!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Tripp wrote: »
    I have a Female American Akita and id agree with everything that Discostuy said about the Pros and cons of the breed.

    My akita is very loyal & protective of the Family and the House and will never bark unless something is wrong.
    They need so much attention when their pups , you have to train them from day 1 or your in for a tough time with them.

    Heres some pics of my Akita

    She's actually the dead spit of our guy which we got from a woman that had to give him up. How old is your girl?


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