Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps

PrettyBoy

Anyone else looking forward to this? The original is one of my favorite movies ever. Shia Labeouf is in the lead role as Jacob Moore with Michael Douglas reprising his role as Gordon Gekko. Charlie Sheen is set to make an appearance too.

Here's the trailer for anyone that hasn't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNun95UvXI

kraggy

Have seen it mentioned already that it's coming out, but the trailer doesn't too meaty does it? Not much substance like.

Still definitely going to go see it thought. Have the first one on dvd, love it.

missingtime

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Anyone else looking forward to this? The original is one of my favorite movies ever. Shia Labeouf is in the lead role as Jacob Moore with Michael Douglas reprising his role as Gordon Gekko. Charlie Sheen is set to make an appearance too.

Here's the trailer for anyone that hasn't seen it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tNun95UvXI

I'd consider this if it wasnt for shia labeouf.

PrettyBoy

kraggy wrote: »

Have seen it mentioned already that it's coming out, but the trailer doesn't too meaty does it? Not much substance like.

I think it's more of a teaser trailer really, just to let everyone know it's coming.

DazMarz

"Greed, for lack of a better word, is good" -Gordon Gekko

Gotta love it. I'm really looking forward to this sequel and hope they do justice to the original.

dubmick

loved the original but can see this being a let down

Hank_Jones

If they had been smart, they would have got Emile Hirsch or Paul Dano (or someone who can act) in the Shia Lebeouf role.

I'll probably go see it alright, don't have very high expectations though.
Don't think I've ever seen Shia Lebeouf in a good film come to think of it.

Auvers

missingtime wrote: »

I'd consider this if it wasnt for shia labeouf.

indeed cant stand the sniviling little runt

JohnK

Yeah I'm looking forward to this; in fact only saw the original for the first time recently. Have to say I dont get the whole Shia Lebeouf hatred - maybe hes not the best actor the world has ever seen but hes certainly not that bad. Doesnt bother me in the slightest that hes in this.

Handsome Bob

I don't think Shia is all that bad, he's had one or two good performances, like with nearly every other actor if the script and director are good then the actor will step it up a notch. Trailer doesn't look too bad.

PrettyBoy

JohnK wrote: »

Have to say I dont get the whole Shia Lebeouf hatred - maybe hes not the best actor the world has ever seen but hes certainly not that bad. Doesnt bother me in the slightest that hes in this

+1. He doesn't bother me and, to be honest, I think he suits the role.

Duggy747

I think Shia is being treated unfairly on this one, you need a smarmy shìt for a movie like this. I'll hold out me judgement until I see it!

The 80's mobile phone gave me a snigger.

JP Liz V1

Will Shia Lebeouf prove his haters wrong with this film :rolleyes:

2Bv¬2B

Just watched Wall Street last night, and I have to say I was very impressed with it.

I am looking forward to the squeal, i'm assuming Gecko was in jail for quite a while so it will be interesting how the times have changed for him as a character . I hope justice is done

hitlersson666

I knew GORDON would make it into the movies someday

Wolflikeme

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Will Shia Lebeouf prove his haters wrong with this film :rolleyes:

Doubtful. It seems people just want to hate him as he's become popular very quickly and hasn't starred in any indie type films, or films demanding a strong performance, preferring the studio flicks. I don't think his ability has been tried much either really but, that's not really his fault.

He's young and the older he gets I reckon he'll mature into better roles and carry a film better too.

Just my 2c.

Valmont

2Bv¬2B wrote: »

I am looking forward to the squeal, i'm assuming Gecko was in jail for quite a while so it will be interesting how the times have changed for him as a character . I hope justice is done

Great job on the spoiler tags there ffs

PrettyBoy

Valmont wrote: »

Great job on the spoiler tags there ffs

Why should he have used spoiler tags?

dinnybatman2

Loved the first film, but tbh the trailer doesn't want to make me rush out to the cinema. Shia is not the worst either.

bnt

I thought Zac Efron was decent in Me and Orson Welles, and I don't see why Shia can't make a good go of it. As already mentioned, the role calls for some cocky young "master of the universe", and what was Charlie Sheen known for in 1987? :P

tony1kenobi

bnt wrote: »

the role calls for some cocky young "master of the universe", and what was Charlie Sheen known for in 1987? :P

Coke,hookers and Platoon....just like now.....except you can add Men At Work and 2 and a half Men to his resume....I love Charlie Sheen.

hinault

Like the original : thought Terence Stamp was excellent as Lord Larry Wildman.

"I'll dump the stock, just to burn your arse, Gecko!"

Valmont

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Why should he have used spoiler tags?

Some people have never seen the first film and that comment gives some important plot details away. Isn't that at all obvious to you?

There will be plenty of people who will like the look of this new film without having seen the original and may click in here out of interest. That was why I did anyway and now I know what happens at the end of the first one.

Dempsey

Shia Leboeuf?

He's alot to live up to.

I've a feeling that this film will bomb as another run of the mill and ruin the original. I'm thinking of making a point of avoiding ever seeing this film.

This sounds like a money making exercise

skelliser

the fact that Leboeuf is in this means it more then likely will be ****.

who the hell is this leboeuf guy anyway, who is bank rolling his career?

PeterIanStaker

Duggy747 wrote: »

The 80's mobile phone gave me a snigger.

Yea me too, brick of a thing!

PrettyBoy

Valmont wrote: »

Some people have never seen the first film and that comment gives some important plot details away. Isn't that at all obvious to you?

There will be plenty of people who will like the look of this new film without having seen the original and may click in here out of interest. That was why I did anyway and now I know what happens at the end of the first one.

Well if you look at the trailer for this film you will see that a man is getting out of jail and, upon his release, he is given a mobile phone which looks like it belongs in the 80's. Two and two.

This thread concerns a sequel to a movie that came out over 20 years ago. Why the fuck would we be using spoilers? If you don't want to know what happened in the first one then don't look at this thread (or the trailer for that matter).

Use your head, mate.

bnt

Here's the second trailer released, which has much more detail than the first one. It's reminding me strongly of the original, with plenty of Michael Douglas:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPCSAAtyLW8

PrettyBoy

Don't look at that new trailer, Valmont.

bnt

Any folks who haven't seen the original Wall Street: Sky One, 9PM tonight. I haven't seen it in years, so I think I will indulge in some Greed.

Hank_Jones

Amazing how much cooler a Rolling Stones song makes something.

Sympathy For the Devil .

Richard Dower

Well, the new film is more relevant now then it was in say 1987, more people are aware now of Wall Street (not the movie) and the blunders, scandals and how it f*cked up the world economy in the last 3 years.

If it's done right with a good script i say....why not?

Hank_Jones

Just thinking, where is Bud Fox in all these trailers?

Must just have a cameo.

Unfortunate really, wouldn't mind seeing the two of them go head to head again.

Richard Dower

Sheen will probably have a cameo, maybe he's down and out after the Gekko experience, working at Taco Bell....Shia orders fries and Sheen warns him about The Gekko.

Is Gordon Gekko "iconic"?

Kess73

I'm just curious as to what part Tuco, sorry I mean Eli Wallach, will be playing. Amazing that he is still acting at 94 years of age.

AARRRRGH

Gordon Gekko - "Greed, is good"
shia labeouf - "No, no, no, no ,,,,,, no,no,no ..... no no no,,,,,,, no no"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s

Handsome Bob

I still don't have a clue about how stock broking works. I mean WTF is the story with the dude who stands in the centre with people just screaming **** at him? How does he record all of that? Crazy profession....

bnt

The guys standing around shouting is kind of a tradition, and it's just horse trading. The actual recording is done by someone else, bits of paper are flying around. Offering to buy and sell stocks at a particular price, on the instructions of the buyer or seller. You say "I want to buy 100 shares of IBM at $90", and you get a response: "here you go" or "are you freaking nuts?". For every buyer there must be a seller, so if there's a demand for a particular stock, you have to offer more, or someone else will: so the price goes up. If you're selling but no-one's buying, you have to lower your asking price.

These days most trades are done electronically, not face to face on the market floor. The "National Association of Securities Dealers Automated Quotations" (NASDAQ) system was started for that very purpose: to speed it all up. The movies show the trading floor to make it look like more than just hitting a few keys. It's financial theatre.

Back to the movie: I looked at the credits, and Charlie Sheen is indeed on there. Another name that jumped out at me is Nouriel Roubini. He's not an actor, he's an economist who's become fairly famous because he was calling the US economy a speculative bubble back in 2005. Since the causes of the current financial crisis are a bit more complex than share dealing, I expect that the new movie will have a bit of wonkish Basil Exposition. The real test will be whether Oliver Stone can turn Edification in to Entertainment.

bonerm

Love the original Wall Street and I'll definetly be checking this out. However I've no great expectations for it given Stone's recent track-record. What next on his bid to get back into the limelight? Platoon: Boot Camp?

CSC

Like others on this thread I am a big fan of the original and worried this is going to be a let down.

When is the release date?

PrettyBoy

CSC wrote: »

When is the release date?

September 24 It was originally set for an April release IIRC.

Richard Dower

This might be best on DVD folks.

PrettyBoy

"Bottom Line: One of the better sequels in a long time."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/wall-street-money-never-sleeps-film-review-1004091240.story

sprinkles

Guardian review wasn't all that great:

Link

Still gonna see it though - anything with Gekko in it!

JP Liz V1

Well it topped the US box office at the weekend

conorhal

Eeek.. I've seen some pretty scathing reviews for Money Never Sleeps. I had hoped for the best but prepared for the worst because, lets face it, Oliver Stone hasn't been a relevant director for 20 years, and he was always about as subtle as a car bomb, but here it seems that he has managed to make a film that looks more dated then the original.

conorhal

conorhal wrote: »

lets face it, Oliver Stone hasn't been a relevant director for 20 years, and he was always about as subtle as a car bomb, but here it seems that he has managed to make a film that looks more dated then the original.

Really?

JFK,Natural Born Killers,Heaven and Earth,Nixon,The Doors were all within the past 20 years...

I really like U-turn,so the only irrelevant films left are World Trade Center,Any Given Sunday and W.

mikhail

Deleted User wrote: »

Really?

JFK (1991),Natural Born Killers (1994),Heaven and Earth (1993),Nixon (1995),The Doors (1991) were all within the past 20 years...

I really like U-turn (1997),so the only irrelevant films left are World Trade Center (2006),Any Given Sunday (1999) and W. (2008)

That's not a very convincing defence of how he's still relevant there. It's an excellent argument that conorhal should have said 15 years though.

brendansmith

Saw it last night. Well worth a watch.

Last scene takes away from it abit, bit stupid that she can do a 180 like that

Handsome Bob

Good film, but you could see the twist from a mile away, the facial expressions that Michael Douglas was making throughout the film just screamed that "I'm still a slimey bastard."

dave13

Thought this was awful, terrible acting, dialogue and characters behaved bizzarely.Shia Leboeuf on sceen far too much as he's pretty much a blank canvas, there's really nothing there.Michael Douglas not onscreen enough, stange he agreed to come back as he's basically ruined one of his best characters
The awful dialogue was hilarious at times

leboeuf to brolin: "Do you Ride", "I ride", "We should ride together sometime". truely cringeworthy.