2010 Panasonic TX-P50V20B/TX-P42V20B

d8player

No prices available yet but the main differences I can see so far with the V10 are Native Contrast up to 5M from 40K, support for wireless (via a dongle) and recording to a HDD via USB.

PDP V20 Series
TX-P50V20B / TX-P42V20B

Picture Quality
Freeview HD
Freesat HD
• Infinite Black Pro with Native Contrast Over 5,000,000:1
• 600Hz Sub-field Drive* Intelligent Frame Creation Pro
• Moving Picture Resolution 1080 Lines**
• THX® Certified Display***
• Digital Cinema Colour
• 24p Smooth Film
• ISFccc

Networking
• VIERA CAST
• DLNA certified
• VIERA Image Viewer Photo, Video and Music
(JPEG/AVCHD/MPEG2/DivXHD/AAC/MP3 )
• VIERA Link
• USB Terminals for Wireless LAN Adaptor, Keyboard and HDD Recording****
• VIERA Tools
• Game Mode
• PC Input

Sound
• V-Audio ProSurround

Eco
• Mercury and Lead Free Panel
• Long Panel Life, Up to 100,000 Hours
• Eco Mode

*When using cinema mode.
**Based on APDC measurement method.
***THX and the THX logo are trademarks of THX Ltd.
**** Keyboard and Hard disk drive are not included.

rai555

and ?

gebbel

I would say these TV's are going to be the business. The V10 came second in a poll over on AVForums for TV of the decade. It's a smashing set that no LCD I have seen can compete with. The V20 is likely to be even better so I would imagine Panasonic are going to sell a lot of them. They are also meant to be incorporating Pioneer Kuro technology which should mean the blacks are the deepest and most inky going!!

ongarite

More info on all the 2010 range and pricing:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1266224400.

I'm hoping to see more sizes during the year. A 46" model would be ideal in the V20 model range.

d8player

ongarite wrote: »

More info on all the 2010 range and pricing:
http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1266224400.

I'm hoping to see more sizes during the year. A 46" model would be ideal in the V20 model range.

The prices are interesting too. That's what I was interested in finding out.

Suggested retail
TX-P42V20E (42”) 1700 Euro
TX-P50V20E (50”) 2100 Euro

TX-P42G20E (42”) 1200 Euro
TX-P46G20E (46”) 1450 Euro
TX-P50G20E (50”) 1650 Euro

I'm actually thinking that the P42G20E looks better value as the only differences here between it and the V series are USB WiFi (WiFi dongle included) and Digital Cinema Colour. Seems a lot for 500 Euro.

big_moe

unfortunately we're not getting the G20 series in ireland.

for ireland its:

x20 - 37", 42" & 50" hd ready plasma 100hz
s20 - 42" & 50" full hd plasma 600hz (like the g10)
v20 - 50" 600hz as v20 above**
vt20 - 50" full hd 3d

**no mention of a 42" yet for ireland so fingers crossed. but what they are having for ireland in a "premium" 42" is the TX-L42D25L lcd.... hmmmm

d8player

big_moe wrote: »

unfortunately we're not getting the G20 series in ireland.

for ireland its:

x20 - 37", 42" & 50" hd ready plasma 100hz
s20 - 42" & 50" full hd plasma 600hz (like the g10)
v20 - 50" 600hz as v20 above. no mention of a 42" yet for ireland so fingers crossed
vt20 - 50" full hd 3d

Hey big_moe

Where did you get that info?

Thanks,
D.

big_moe

from panasonic

Raoul Duke

big_moe wrote: »

unfortunately we're not getting the G20 series in ireland.

for ireland its:

x20 - 37", 42" & 50" hd ready plasma 100hz
s20 - 42" & 50" full hd plasma 600hz (like the g10)
v20 - 50" 600hz as v20 above**
vt20 - 50" full hd 3d

**no mention of a 42" yet for ireland so fingers crossed. but what they are having for ireland in a "premium" 42" is the TX-L42D25L lcd.... hmmmm

Unbelievable!! I've been following this closely the last few days. Waiting to pounce on the G20 as soon as the first reviews came in. Prices looked good in Euro vs Sterling, so I figured I'd be supporting one of the local shops. Not a chance now.

If this is true, I'm sorry to say, but Panasonic Ireland has lost me as a customer.....unless the 42V20 drops to around €1,400 :rolleyes:


Edited to continue rant:

This is from Phil Hilton from avforums:

"The G20 is really a killer product from what we have seen and although it uses slightly different filter and black level driving, it still produces a black level that in my opinion is still close to the VT/V20 models, just a slightly reduced contrast look. But it still trounces every LCD (and LCD LED) I have seen for image contrast and uniformity and motion and probably every other plasma in its price range (we have yet to see the LG in the flesh) on what we have seen so far. Added to this it also has accurate image quality from the THX certification and picture mode this year and it really starts to hit the right spots to become a classic core plasma model for the mass market. AND it also has ISFccc as well! Plus all the other added content streaming etc... This to me is the most promising model for the mass market and people wanting what Pioneer used to do at a fraction of the price. I really want to get one next to our reference Kuros and just see how far the G20 gets, and that will happen soon hopefully.

Plus all the new screens from G20 up have new video processing onboard, so fingers crossed that the slight issues of scaling and de-interlacing seen on the 2009 sets is sorted for this year. Plus with all new panels and drivers its likely that the issues of raised blacks that are affecting a hndful of users will not be seen on these models.

It been a while since myself and David were excited by any movement in plasma development (probably the last Kuro launch was when we were last impressed so much with new screens). As you know we never pass judgement on stuff until we have tested the hind legs off it, but what we can say is we are itching to get these panels in the testing rooms and get started on measuring and testing them fully. Are we going to see the most accurate Plasmas yet? Let's just say the signs are very promising on what we have seen so far and it looks like another good jump in plasma quality."


How in gods name can they leave this range out from Ireland? Budget to expensive; no middle ground. Doesn't make any sense to me. Was any reason given for this decision?

Zonda999

Unbelievable we wont be offered the G20 in this country! That will surely be the biggest seller on the UK but it wont even be available here! Madness!

big_moe

Raoul Duke wrote: »

Prices looked good in Euro vs Sterling, so I figured I'd be supporting one of the local shops. Not a chance now.

i work in alliance electric and we'll be stocking all the uk models as we've always done

Zonda999

Hope there'll be no issues with the DTT compatibility now this year but the inclusion of the DVB-T2 tuner in the G20/V20 may put that to bed i guess?

big_moe

Zonda999 wrote: »

Hope there'll be no issues with the DTT compatibility now this year but the inclusion of the DVB-T2 tuner in the G20/V20 may put that to bed i guess?

exactly, fingers crossed! that'll be my first thing to check:D

and they also have a new bluray recorder (and dvd recorders) with the mpeg4 tuner so that should be the business.

d8player

Hey Big Moe

Any word on the MPEG4 compatibility?

Thanks,
D.

big_moe

i havent had any of the UK sets in yet so still cant confirm

Raoul Duke

big_moe wrote: »

i havent had any of the UK sets in yet so still cant confirm

Any idea when the G20s will arrive?

How Soon Is Now

Ya im very interested in this tv its going for around 1000 or so in england so i guess bout 1200 or so in Ireland?

d8player

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Ya im very interested in this tv its going for around 1000 or so in england so i guess bout 1200 or so in Ireland?

I finally bit the bullet and bought the TX-P42G20 from Seamus Watters in Armagh. €1025 delivered to Dublin. They're excellent to deal with too.

How Soon Is Now

d8player wrote: »

I finally bit the bullet and bought the TX-P42G20 from Seamus Watters in Armagh. €1025 delivered to Dublin. They're excellent to deal with too.

1025 euro full price including delivery ???

Headshot

d8player wrote: »

I finally bit the bullet and bought the TX-P42G20 from Seamus Watters in Armagh. €1025 delivered to Dublin. They're excellent to deal with too.

jebus that good (if it includes postage)

might give them a ring or something

How Soon Is Now

This Seamus Watters crowd are u best to ring or will they actually ring you back? I emailed them months ago about tv and never got back to me.

Also what methods of payments do they take as there website tells you nothing.

d8player

angerfist2009 wrote: »

This Seamus Watters crowd are u best to ring or will they actually ring you back? I emailed them months ago about tv and never got back to me.

Also what methods of payments do they take as there website tells you nothing.

Definitely ring. They take either visa or accept payment on delivery.

How Soon Is Now

Can you pay them in cash on delivery ? Cause only card i use is laser.

d8player

angerfist2009 wrote: »

Can you pay them in cash on delivery ? Cause only card i use is laser.

I think they take laser too.

How Soon Is Now

Cool that would be so handy ill ring them later maybe cause seriously interested in this tv.

Headshot

it seems its true that this tv isnt coming into the irish market at all

big_moe

that was always the case. its a UK only model which means Panasonic Ireland will not be doing it. Some shops will only deal with panasonic Ireland but certain shops have sourced them from Panasonic UK, albeit with a delay compared to other UK based dealers.

SANDYCISCO34

Hi
I put a deposit on panasonic 50 inch g20 on sat in seamus watters and I'm paying the balance on delivery.They were very helpful. Very reasonable for the 50inch (€1350). The s20 down here is going to be €1300! He gave me a discount on the alphason tv stand aswell. All I have to do now is wait as the 50 inch G20 is not over til next week.

Ros Man

Hi,
Just wondering if the freeview option will allow us here in Ireland to pick up rte etc when it switches to digital via an aerial. Is this the MPEG4 compatability discussed earlier. I know the freesat allows us to pick up BBC etc via sat dish. Also any idea what the difference is between the V20 and the G20 in lay mans terms. I'm not that tecky.
Rosman

Laker04

d8player wrote: »

I finally bit the bullet and bought the TX-P42G20 from Seamus Watters in Armagh. €1025 delivered to Dublin. They're excellent to deal with too.

Excellent deal, what kind of a guarantee did you get with that???

d8player

Laker04 wrote: »

Excellent deal, what kind of a guarantee did you get with that???

Five years.

SANDYCISCO34

It's the standard guarantee (1yr I think) but I was told every year panasonic for a period give free 5yr warranty with their tv's. Seamus watters himself told me that they will redate my receipt so I'm covered for 5 yrs. My boss in work recommended seamus watters. He did the same for him last year and he received notice from panasonic to say he has a 5yr warranty.

Laker04

big_moe wrote: »

i havent had any of the UK sets in yet so still cant confirm

Have you got the P42G20B's in yet or when do you expect them to arrive???

Tea 1000

Ros Man wrote: »

Hi,
Just wondering if the freeview option will allow us here in Ireland to pick up rte etc when it switches to digital via an aerial. Is this the MPEG4 compatability discussed earlier. I know the freesat allows us to pick up BBC etc via sat dish. Also any idea what the difference is between the V20 and the G20 in lay mans terms. I'm not that tecky.
Rosman

Freeview is a UK standard, but basically the fact that it has an MPEG4 Digital terrestrial tuner should mean that it can pick up the Irish digital channels.
I have last years model, the G10, and I already am receiving the Digital terrestrial broadcast. I purchased in Ireland because I wanted the terrestrial channels, but last year the UK G10 couldn't (wouldn't) decode the Irish ones. Not sure what the story with the UK G20's though, maybe someone with a G20 can try this out?

d8player

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Freeview is a UK standard, but basically the fact that it has an MPEG4 Digital terrestrial tuner should mean that it can pick up the Irish digital channels.
I have last years model, the G10, and I already am receiving the Digital terrestrial broadcast. I purchased in Ireland because I wanted the terrestrial channels, but last year the UK G10 couldn't (wouldn't) decode the Irish ones. Not sure what the story with the UK G20's though, maybe someone with a G20 can try this out?

I should be able to try it this weekend.

Headshot

im getting the 46" next week

d8player

d8player wrote: »

I should be able to try it this weekend.

I attached a rabbit ear aerial (€19 in Argos) onto my 42" G20, did a quick scan for the Irish channels using the DVB tuner and two minutes later was absolutely amazed at the result. OMG :eek:, the quality was so good it nearly made the Poseidon remake look watchable :cool:.

Raoul Duke

d8player wrote: »

I attached a rabbit ear aerial (€19 in Argos) onto my 42" G20, did a quick scan for the Irish channels using the DVB tuner and two minutes later was absolutely amazed at the result. OMG :eek:, the quality was so good it nearly made the Poseidon remake look watchable :cool:.

Whereabouts are you?

d8player

Raoul Duke wrote: »

Whereabouts are you?

Lucan, Dublin.

Raoul Duke

d8player wrote: »

Lucan, Dublin.

Might try and get one of those rabbit ears so. My 46G20 is due next week!

Headshot

I got my 46G20 today from Seamus Watters

I cant say enough about the service I got from them, absolutely brilliant

46G20 really has blown my G10 out of the water

d8player

Raoul Duke wrote: »

Might try and get one of those rabbit ears so. My 46G20 is due next week!

Hi

I bought a digiTop SLX Gold for €19.99 in Argos (the non-amplified version). Its not pretty and I normally use it for watching stuff on the PC upstairs.

http://www.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/9007925/Trail/searchtext%3EAERIAL.htm

D.

templar01

lads - mad to get a G20 42" - sounds like i wont be disappointed . seems like Seamus Watters has a good rep so would have no problem going there....but....i'm in cork - they hardly deliver further south than Dublin does anyone know ? also is there NO chance of getting a G20 anywhere in the south ?

Headshot

templar01 wrote: »

lads - mad to get a G20 42" - sounds like i wont be disappointed . seems like Seamus Watters has a good rep so would have no problem going there....but....i'm in cork - they hardly deliver further south than Dublin does anyone know ? also is there NO chance of getting a G20 anywhere in the south ?

yes they deliver to cork, they deliver all over ireland

rabbitinlights

Anyone have any ideas what's going on with Alliance Electic? I see there is a sign saying closed for renovations but it doesn't look like anything is going on inside?

big_moe

rabbitinlights wrote: »

Anyone have any ideas what's going on with Alliance Electic?

hi, i work there. unfortunately we've gone into liquidation so wont be re-opening

Adam

Raoul Duke

big_moe wrote: »

hi, i work there. unfortunately we've gone into liquidation so wont be re-opening

Adam

Ahhh! That explains the unanswered email and telephone calls.

Sorry to hear that. Peats it is so for my Denon.

eddiem74

Raoul Duke wrote: »

Peats it is so for my Denon.

Peats wouldn't be the cheapest in my experience. What Denon are you getting?

Gerard_Smith

Any advice on where to get the TX-P42G20 now that alliance electric is gone? Their must be somewhere.

big_moe

The G20 isn't an Irish model so it's a lot harder to get, that's why very few stores actually sell them. You could try the Panasonic Centre in Limerick. Otherwise I think it's over the border unfortunately.

Gerard_Smith

What about Seamus Watters? Are they to be trusted?