Does she care?

miseeire

I listened to the Tanaiste,Mary Coughlan,on morning Ireland this morning where she was interviewed about Michael 0'Leary wanting to create 500 jobs at Dublin airport and his attempts being frustrated by a lack of co-operation.He refuses to deal with D.A.A.and finds the minister less than helpful.Her interview was an example of somebody who thinks they can do whatever suits them and to hell with the begrudgers.She continuously interrupted Aine Lawlor and was so flippant as to offer to build a hangar for Michael O'Leary at Shannon.I do feel that there should be a system in place to remove a well paid politician for being for not being up to the job.

VolvicMinerial

Shes was and never has been up to the position as Tanaiste, it's not that she doesn't care it's that she hasn't a clue about whats going in the country.

blacksmith105

i totally agree , this country is not in the position to turn down 500 jobs because the incompetent government wants to support state run monopoly . I like Micheal O Leary he,s a no bull **** business man and one i would trust rather than the clowns who we have running our country :mad:

flanzer

Ask the locals in Donegal and there's the differing opinion. She's a demi-God in these parts. Here lies the crux of the problem with politics in Ireland and particularily the parish politics that goes on. Not one politicion has the foresight to look at the country as a whole and not just local policies.

I don't know if it was that programme or not, maybe another radio station, but the issue of Dublin being the centre of the universe came up and that people and politians from outside these parts were suffering from an inferiority complex. Someone went onto say that Dublin will lead us out of this whole and is currently contributing to half the country's GDP, insinuating that Mary Coughlan couldn't give a flyin' fcuk about creating jobs in Dublin but was more concerned about retaining jobs in Gweedore and the likes

Riskymove

[QUOTE=miseeire;64475227Her interview was an example of somebody who thinks they can do whatever suits them and to hell with the begrudgers.[/QUOTE]

as oppossed to O'leary??

KoolKid

I would still trust O Leary over anyone in government at the moment.
If Michael O Leary was running the country he would get the work done & would have no problem sacking those who are incompetant.
When was the last time a government minister was sacked for not doing thier job ??

ardmacha

I am not defending Mary Coughlan, who does not give an impression of being in control of her job. However O'Leary wants a hanger presently occupied by Aer Lingus, it might not be a simple matter to give it to him. Aer Lingus originally sold the maintenance business, perhaps they retained a clause to get the hanger back. Building a new hanger might indeed be the way forward. O'Leary is doing the usual.

KoolKid

If its not possible then let Mary explain the issues.

Riskymove

koolkid wrote: »

I would still trust O Leary over anyone in government at the moment.
If Michael O Leary was running the country he would get the work done & would have no problem sacking those who are incompetant.
When was the last time a government minister was sacked for not doing thier job ??

ah not that line again

O'Leary is not interested in a running a country, he is interested in making money; there is a vast difference

his model for running a business cannot cover running public services

Ryanair wanted things done on their terms only and would not even negotiate directly with the DAA and then wanted a Minister to basically tell the DAA to give it to them

If denis o'brien or sean dunne or whoever had told a minister to direct a state organisation to give him favorable terms in some property deal, there'd be uproar and tribunals

Sleepy

If I was O' Leary I'd let her build me the hanger in Shannon and leave it sit there breaking the lease at the first opportunity just to make a show of the woman.

snubbleste

You should've seen her on BBC Worldwide, broadcasting her deputy prime minister views globally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQ_x15g0hQ

Kess73

miseeire wrote: »

I listened to the Tanaiste,Mary Coughlan,on morning Ireland this morning where she was interviewed about Michael 0'Leary wanting to create 500 jobs at Dublin airport and his attempts being frustrated by a lack of co-operation.He refuses to deal with D.A.A.and finds the minister less than helpful.Her interview was an example of somebody who thinks they can do whatever suits them and to hell with the begrudgers.She continuously interrupted Aine Lawlor and was so flippant as to offer to build a hangar for Michael O'Leary at Shannon.I do feel that there should be a system in place to remove a well paid politician for being for not being up to the job.

Riskymove wrote: »

as oppossed to O'leary??

The difference is that O'Leary is not paid to head what is one of the most important government departments. A department that is there to create and sustain enterprise, growth, jobs, and innovation amongst other things.


O' Leary earns his money by promoting his own company, and doing what is best for his company. It is something, like him or hate him, that he does very well.

Coughlan on the other hand cannot be said to be doing her job very well.

The recent Cadbury buyout highlighted her attitude/incompetence. Her UK counterpart had meeting with Cadbury and the parties interested in buying Cadbury months before the buy out happened. The reason behind this was to see what was planned for the UK jobs within Cadbury, and whether the new buyer would be making changes that would result in job losses.

Coughlan was interviewed just after the Cadbury buyout by Kraft happened, and asked if she had done likewise. Her reply was that she was hoping to set up some meetings with Kraft representatives in the coming months.

The Dell situation in Limerick is another high profile one where she spoofed her way through interviews, along with the useless Willie O' Dea, and made noises about there being no job losses coming.

Then came the job losses and she came on again spoofing about courses and new jobs being set up straight away for the Dell workers.

More than 12 months later she is still waffling on about how what she said was already in place a year beforehand is almost ready.

Amhran Nua

flanzer wrote: »

Here lies the crux of the problem with politics in Ireland and particularily the parish politics that goes on. Not one politicion has the foresight to look at the country as a whole and not just local policies.

The whole system is broken really - no TD has the incentive to look beyond their own patch since thats where they get reelected, and its a hypercompetitve setup as well, you are starting your next campaign immediately after you are elected. A partial party list system and a few other adjustments within the parties themselves would go along way towards addressing these problems.

Riskymove

Kess73 wrote: »

The difference is that O'Leary is not paid to head what is one of the most important government departments. A department that is there to create and sustain enterprise, growth, jobs, and innovation amongst other things.

I am in no way attempting to defend Mary Coughlan's performance

But the idea that O'Leary has anyone to blame but himself for refusing to deal with the DAA is a joke....he is being portrayed as some benign hero wanting to give out jobs to one and all and the dastardly Government stopping him...a joke

its just more free publicity for Ryanair

Riskymove

Amhran Nua wrote: »

- no TD has the incentive to look beyond their own patch since thats where they get reelected, and its a hypercompetitve setup as well

I agree with that, there is always huge pressure for airport related jobs in the North dublin and surrounding constituencies, it is always an election issue..but just because Coughlan herself is not from there does not mean that FF and others would not have been putting pressure on

Kess73

Riskymove wrote: »

I am in no way attempting to defend Mary Coughlan's performance

But the idea that O'Leary has anyone to blame but himself for refusing to deal with the DAA is a joke....he is being portrayed as some benign hero wanting to give out jobs to one and all and the dastardly Government stopping him...a joke

its just more free publicity for Ryanair

Yeah, but by opening his mouth over and over, he is still being proactive in trying to push the company. The man just never stops. Nothing is off limits with him in terms of what he will use to maximise Ryanair's potential, and while I do not agree with everything he comes out with, I have to admire his energy and his drive.

If Coughlan had a fraction of his drive and determination, she might actually be competent at her job.

zootroid

Riskymove wrote: »

I am in no way attempting to defend Mary Coughlan's performance

But the idea that O'Leary has anyone to blame but himself for refusing to deal with the DAA is a joke....he is being portrayed as some benign hero wanting to give out jobs to one and all and the dastardly Government stopping him...a joke

its just more free publicity for Ryanair

Ireland is not O'Leary's responsibility, Ryanair is. He only answers to the board of Ryanair and the shareholders. He only cares about Ireland in so much that he is a citizen, and would like to see Ireland to do well, but that's about it. He works for Ryanair, and is primary goal is to get the best deal for Ryanair.

Coughlan on the other hand is a TD, and should be doing everything in her power to ensure we can attract investment. If there was a hint that jobs could be created, she should have stepped in to make sure we have every chance of getting that investment. She just fobbed off Ryanair saying deal with DAA, even though she knew that was never going to happen. So was there more she could have done? Absolutely. She should have at least met with O'Leary and discussed things face to face, and try move things on from there.

The fact that we are even talking about this, talking about whether she cares, and questioning her competency speaks volumes.

zootroid

snubbleste wrote: »

You should've seen her on BBC Worldwide, broadcasting her deputy prime minister views globally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQ_x15g0hQ

I didn't think it was possible, but I have even less respect for her after watching that.

Riskymove

zootroid wrote: »

She just fobbed off Ryanair saying deal with DAA, even though she knew that was never going to happen.

fobbed off?

The DAA own the hangar, if Ryanair wanted the fecking hangar they should have dealt with the DAA, or at least attempted to

this is all just because its Coughlan and people dont like her....as I said above, if this was Sean dunne or seanie fitzpatrick demanding a Minister do something favorable for them (even if jobs were to be created) it would be a different slant on boards today

Nate--IRL--

I think these say as much about Irish journalism as well as Mary.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkkvU6LC3ZY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSw825ORu2Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQ_x15g0hQ

Nate

miseeire

Riskymove wrote: »

as oppossed to O'leary??

I am not a fan of O'Leary but he is a very VERY successful businessman.How much would you pay for flights were it not for Ryanair?If O'Leary was in charge of this country,you would not have the problems we have.Parish pump politics is what you deserve.

KoolKid

Riskymove wrote: »

ah not that line again

O'Leary is not interested in a running a country, he is interested in making money; there is a vast difference

his model for running a business cannot cover running public services

Ryanair wanted things done on their terms only and would not even negotiate directly with the DAA and then wanted a Minister to basically tell the DAA to give it to them

If denis o'brien or sean dunne or whoever had told a minister to direct a state organisation to give him favorable terms in some property deal, there'd be uproar and tribunals

I am aware Michael O Leary has no interest in running the country. I was simply making a point of who I trust more. I would not trust Michael O Leary saying he wants jobs for Ireland,he is only interested in whats best for Ryanair. He' is in business & thats his job. He does his job extreamly well.You have to admit that, However I trust Mary Coughlan a hell of a lot less, and she does not do her job very well, you have to admit that also.

Riskymove

koolkid wrote: »

I am aware Michael O Leary has no interest in running the country. I was simply making a point of who I trust more. I would not trust Michael O Leary saying he wants jobs for Ireland,he is only interested in whats best for Ryanair. He' is in business & thats his job. He does his job extreamly well.You have to admit that, However I trust Mary Coughlan a hell of a lot less, and she does not do her job very well, you have to admit that also.

absolutely

I am no way here trying to defend Coughlan's performance in her job and I have plenty of admiration for what O'Leary has achieved in the airline industry......but....

miseeire wrote: »

If O'Leary was in charge of this country,you would not have the problems we have.

is just rubbish and is a very simplistic view of our current issues

KoolKid

Thats a fair enough comment..
Please note the second quote is not mine!!!

Sesshoumaru

Read these today:

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2010/0215/breaking29.html?via=mr

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/editorial/minister-does-the-right-thing-2064827.html

A country where officials in the same office refuse to answer the telephone because of a work-to-rule in protest against pay cuts?

I'm just wondering is the last quote true? It would be shocking to think that staff in the Ministry responsible for helping to create jobs are included in these not answering the phone protests! Their jobs and salaries are directly dependent on doing there own jobs well.

What opportunities could we already have missed if they're not picking up the phone in Coughlans office?

woodseb

Sesshoumaru wrote: »

I'm just wondering is the last quote true? It would be shocking to think that staff in the Ministry responsible for helping to create jobs are included in these not answering the phone protests! Their jobs and salaries are directly dependent on doing there own jobs well.

What opportunities could we already have missed if they're not picking up the phone in Coughlans office?

Mary Coughlan said it wasn't the government's job to intervene in a commercial deal so maybe she was on a work to rule too....

ei.sdraob

why would she care?

her salary is same regardless

only if she operated on performance bonus structure like sales people do

hell thats exactly what we need now, a good sales person as minister for enterprise

stepbar

"Coughlan wants Ryanair business plan"
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0216/ryanair.html

I LOL'ed

I wonder did Aer Lingus produce a business plan when they went forth to the DAA asking to rent Hanger 6?

I think I'd take his word on it.....


Whilst I think the MO'L should deal with the DAA, it does not remove the fact the DAA are a useless set of cnuts who should not be there in the first place. As some said on another thread, our main airports should not be in public ownership. It certainly would have removed the "conflict of interest" that MO'L is working to his advantage (by conflict of interest I mean where the DAA is effectively the puppet of the Government and their interests).

P. Breathnach

stepbar wrote: »

... DAA are a useless set of cnuts who should not be there in the first place...

I take it that you know this because Michael O'Leary says so.

stepbar

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I take it that you know this because Michael O'Leary says so.

http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/company-profile/board-of-directors.html

Do you think that's a good board of directors? 4/13 are effectively union reps. 2 are from the other airports. And the rest well....... only 1 really has real experience of managing an airport (or set of). And I won't start about Bill Cullen (although I admire him in other respects)....

And then look at the management team - http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/company-profile/management.html

What the fcuk business has anyone from Cork and Shannon got being on the mgt team in Dublin?

And I thought the DAA was "supposed" to be independent.....

SeaFields

I thought about this last night after hearing the report on the last word with matt cooper.

Would it be a reasonable thing for the former staff of SR Technics to go down to the Taniste office and stay there in protest until this matter is resolved i.e. the jobs are confirmed.

changes

flanzer wrote: »

Ask the locals in Donegal and there's the differing opinion. She's a demi-God in these parts.

I can't speak for everyone, but she is not well regarded where i'm from. She has done very little for these parts.

On the issue though. MOL has one eye on taking over air lingus with all this carry on IMO. Why not accept a new hanger.

bamboozle

snubbleste wrote: »

You should've seen her on BBC Worldwide, broadcasting her deputy prime minister views globally.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCQ_x15g0hQ

oh dear me that is cringe viewing of the highest order, that reporter seemed to know more about the woes of the country than dear old Mary!
we gotta appreciate that Mary has been very busy these last few months, what with signing off on early full pensions for disgraced public servants who were forced to retire early and ignoring reports on FAS placed on her desk in June until September when she decides to finally release the FAS finding on the day NAMA is launched....she has done an extremely poor job but no doubt next election she'll be relelected just like Bev in Mayo and Michael down in Tipp!

donkey balls

bamboozle wrote: »

oh dear me that is cringe viewing of the highest order, that reporter seemed to know more about the woes of the country than dear old Mary!
we gotta appreciate that Mary has been very busy these last few months, what with signing off on early full pensions for disgraced public servants who were forced to retire early and ignoring reports on FAS placed on her desk in June until September when she decides to finally release the FAS finding on the day NAMA is launched....she has done an extremely poor job but no doubt next election she'll be relelected just like Bev in Mayo and Michael down in Tipp!

+ 1 and to think that it was broadcast around the globe what will other countries think of our second in command:rolleyes:

mossfort

mary coughlan has come out of the meeting with michael oleary failing to reach an agreement.
it seems to be over a clause in the lease of the hangar in dublin airport that it cant be vacated.
o leary says hes going to look at other european countries. it looks like ireland will miss out yet again because of government incompetence.

JMSE

I'm no fan of anyone on anyside of this arguement. I think O'Leary though is just playing to the gallery, you dont just walk into a hangar and kick an airline out especially when they are tenants there. And you dont do it just to put their opposition IN. And now MOL is gonna walk away from this having created a storm, leaving the others scrapping over the details. Why cant he build a new facility, think of all the jobs in that alone. If Irish unemployed people were his main concern he would get over his problems with the DAA.

Welease

O'Leary doesn't want to do anything except create some sh*t. His only interest is himself, Ryanair and his rediculous war of words between him and some members of the government...

stepbar

JMSE wrote: »

I'm no fan of anyone on anyside of this arguement. I think O'Leary though is just playing to the gallery, you dont just walk into a hangar and kick an airline out especially when they are tenants there. And you dont do it just to put their opposition IN. And now MOL is gonna walk away from this having created a storm, leaving the others scrapping over the details. Why cant he build a new facility, think of all the jobs in that alone. If Irish unemployed people were his main concern he would get over his problems with the DAA.

Did you read the letters?

He offered to rent the Hanger at the price that the DAA purchased the lease off SR Technics for. The DAA said they had "interested parties" and told him to effectively PFO. The "interested parties" turned out to be Aer Lingus, who are under utilising the facility. So effectively they were telling porkies.

Diarmuid

P. Breathnach wrote: »

I take it that you know this because Michael O'Leary says so.

You have one incredible chip on your shoulder about MOL

P. Breathnach

Diarmuid wrote: »

You have one incredible chip on your shoulder about MOL

I don't. I'm not a fan, but I don't carry chips on my shoulder.

thebman

The real question is if the DAA were a completely private business, would they move AL for Ryanair.

I think the answer would be yes given Ryanair have the best long term prospects and AL can use other facilities that don't put them out in anyway.

If AL did sign a lease that said they can be moved any time then that is their own fault same as any company that took an upwards only rent review lease on a premises during boom times.

heyjude

Riskymove wrote: »

fobbed off?

The DAA own the hangar, if Ryanair wanted the fecking hangar they should have dealt with the DAA, or at least attempted to

this is all just because its Coughlan and people dont like her....as I said above, if this was Sean dunne or seanie fitzpatrick demanding a Minister do something favorable for them (even if jobs were to be created) it would be a different slant on boards today

The issue is not how Coughlan would react to a request from Sean Dunne or Seanie Fitzpatrick, the issue is how she would be reacting if instead of it being Michael O'Leary and Ryanair, it had instead been someone like SouthWest Airlines or American Airlines. Do you honestly think if SouthWest or American Airlines wanted to use the hangar, promised these jobs and didn't want to deal with the DAA, that she'd have given them the same reply ? I seriously doubt it.

The DAA may own the hangar, but who owns the DAA ? The state. So its a bit rich to pretend that the Minister has no influence.

'He who pays the piper calls the tune' and in this case, it seems Ryanair are the only party with 300 jobs to offer, we need a minister who's prepared to go the extra mile to secure these jobs, before the offer is withdrawn(as I expect it will be) and they end up somewhere else in Europe.

Then again, this government doesn't seem to specialise in urgency, so it would be out of character to expect them to show any urgency now.

Guy:Incognito

stepbar wrote: »

"Coughlan wants Ryanair business plan"
http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/0216/ryanair.html

I LOL'ed

I wonder did Aer Lingus produce a business plan when they went forth to the DAA asking to rent Hanger 6?
.

Why would they? There was an empty hanger and they rented it out. Ryanair wanting the government tostep in and tell the DAA to throw AL out of the hanger to let Ryanair in is completely different.

Riskymove wrote: »

fobbed off?

The DAA own the hangar, if Ryanair wanted the fecking hangar they should have dealt with the DAA, or at least attempted to

this is all just because its Coughlan and people dont like her....as I said above, if this was Sean dunne or seanie fitzpatrick demanding a Minister do something favorable for them (even if jobs were to be created) it would be a different slant on boards today

Theres a bit of selective reading going on. People just want to jump in and give out about the government or Mary Coughlan, reasoned debate doesnt seem to factor.

stepbar wrote: »

http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/company-profile/board-of-directors.html

Do you think that's a good board of directors? 4/13 are effectively union reps. 2 are from the other airports. And the rest well....... only 1 really has real experience of managing an airport (or set of). And I won't start about Bill Cullen (although I admire him in other respects)....

And then look at the management team - http://www.dublinairportauthority.com/company-profile/management.html

What the fcuk business has anyone from Cork and Shannon got being on the mgt team in Dublin?

And I thought the DAA was "supposed" to be independent.....

The DAA runs Dublin , Cork and Shannon, not just Dublin.

heyjude wrote: »

The DAA may own the hangar, but who owns the DAA ? The state. So its a bit rich to pretend that the Minister has no influence..

Maybe the public need to draw up a list of private companies that the Government can step in and help out or bend rules for. They swing wildly from "FF lineing their friends pockets" and "jobs for the boys"etc to "give Ryanair what they want regardless"

Are we to assume that if all the developers and bankers people like to give out so much about had put on a show argueing and opposeign FF for a bit, no one would have had a problem with any of the events of the last couple of years?

CityCentreMan

It seems to be in everyone's interest that these jobs be retained in Ireland and that they be "activated" as quickly as possible.

The proposal to build a new hangar is obviously a red herring on the part of the DAA. Between negotiations, tendering processes, environmental impact assessments, planning appeals and finally construction, it would be years before completion.

There can be little doubt that if this was Michael Dell instead of Michael O'Leary all the state sector would be falling all over him. In the eyes of the "Powers that Be" in our little fiefdom, MOL is certainly regarded as a bit of a "lout", possibly with some justification. However, he is our lout and in terms of tourism, employment & general wealth creation, he has done more for Ireland than any of our politicians or civil servants or government quangos.

MOL is being accused of over-simplifying the situation in terms of what he wants. I totally disagree.

1) The Aircraft Engineers are fully qualified and available immediately;
2) The Hangar is not being used and is ideally located;
3) The Hangar is currently being leased to Aer lingus who:
a) Is'nt using it!
b) Cant afford it;
c) Is unlikely to be around in the longer term;
d) Presumably, has a majority of it's shareholders who want this deal to go ahead. (Between the Govt Stake, Ryanair Shareholding and Shares held by former Team Aer lingus employees)

The antipathy of Aer Lingus Management, the DAA and successive Government Ministers towards Ryanair & MOL in particular, whilst understandable (given their collective inadequacies ) must not be allowed to let these jobs be lost.

MOL's efforts to deal with Mary Coughlan instead of the DAA was obviously an attempt to both generate extra publicity for his company as well as an attempt to carve out a workable deal by negotiating with the Organ Grinder instead of the Monkey.

Unfortunately, he just got another monkey!

flanzer

Ryanair are a bunch of media hungry sh!t stirrers and media rags like the Indo prefer to DAA bash and government bash when they feel like it. I'm no fan of the government and half a fan of the Ryanair but some of the lies and media puppetry from Ryanair is sickening.

Aer Lingus do use that hanger for their wide body aircraft like the A330, but at the time this was taken, there was none on the ground at Dublin Airport.....or was there????

Here's the evidence.....

Take a look at their website with their photographic evidence of Hanger 6 and the 'unoccupied' state it is in

http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/o-leary-invites-tanaiste-to-meet-on-300-jobs

I've highlighted some that might be of interest to the public. To me it looks like the back of an A330:


Now take a look at the beautiful cropping that the Indo has done on the same image, in their article on page 12:



I'll people decide and discuss....

P. Breathnach

CityCentreMan wrote: »

...
2) The Hangar is not being used and is ideally located;
3) The Hangar is currently being leased to Aer lingus who:
a) Is'nt using it!
...

This contradicts a number of posts on these boards from people who seem to me to know the situation at the airport.

Are you asking us to believe that Aer Lingus signed a lease on a major facility in order to leave it lying empty?

draward

Can the goverment not tell the daa to move air lingus?
or are daa the goverment. Who is running our country. If AL have a lease the goverment owns or has a big share in them.

I am confussed

Riskymove

heyjude wrote: »

The DAA may own the hangar, but who owns the DAA ? The state. So its a bit rich to pretend that the Minister has no influence.

'He who pays the piper calls the tune' and in this case, it seems Ryanair are the only party with 300 jobs to offer, we need a minister who's prepared to go the extra mile to secure these jobs, before the offer is withdrawn(as I expect it will be) and they end up somewhere else in Europe.

I think you are missing my point somewhat here

there are a number of people here saying that a Government Minister should direct another state organisation to evict their legal tenants and give the hangar to Ryanair just because O'Leary wants it and, crucially, there are some jobs

the idea seems to be that ANYTHING should be done in return for some jobs and if the Governemnt dont act in this way, they are in the wrong...I cant agree...indeed I am certain of the Minister instructed the DAA to kick Ryanair out of some facility so that Aer Lingus could use it, there would be uproar

on a side note, Coughlan has no authority over the DAA, if anyone does it would be the Minister for Transport

some other posters are also on similar lines of thinking to me

the difference to what you say is that no other airline (american or otherwise) would come in, blasting in the media, demanding that the Government of the Country dance to their tune....they would deal with the DAA directly (quietly) and probably work out a deal

Riskymove

draward wrote: »

. If AL have a lease the goverment owns or has a big share in them.

I am confussed

the government owns a share in Aerlingus, but so do Ryanair!!

niether can really direct AL to do anything until they have majority share

P. Breathnach

flanzer wrote: »

... I'll people decide and discuss....

Good spotting! Is that an airplane I see before me?

Does nobody in Ryanair know how to use image manipulation software? At least to the same standard as their truth manipulation software?

Sesshoumaru

P. Breathnach wrote: »

Good spotting! Is that an airplane I see before me?

Does nobody in Ryanair know how to use image manipulation software? At least to the same standard as their truth manipulation software?

I don't think Ryanair ever said AL don't occasionally put an airplane in there for maintenance. Their argument seems to be that AL don't need a hangar that size for what they use it for and that it is significantly under utilised by AL.

Another good opportunity to provide employment for people wasted by our country. Does anyone who is complaining about MOL or Ryanair have 300 to 500 jobs to offer the unemployed technicians who formerly worked in SRT?