BNP Focced to change Core principal

Mahatma coat

The BNP have been forced to change its Constitution by the courts.

14/02/2010 - 17:23:33
The British National Party today voted to approve changes to its constitution that would allow black and Asian people to become members.

The decision came after the far-right party held an extraordinary general meeting in Essex today, a party spokesman said.

It was arranged after the Central London County Court told the BNP to amend its constitution to comply with race relations laws or face legal action by the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

Read more: http://breakingnews.ie/world/bnp-signals-change-to-whites-only-policy-446150.html#ixzz0fZKMzSLI

Right I'm off down to the Local Mosque for a Beer and a Cigarette, Equality and all that, they cant ban me for not being one of them, that'd be racist.

jank

Oh come off it will ya. Nobody is preventing you from becoming a Muslim and I am sure if you walk into a church swiging a drink and smoking a fag you will be told where to go in no uncertain terms.

However having a political party than bans people joining it on the basis of the colour of their skin .. well we all know how that has worked out in the past.

toomevara

.....They've certainly got an interesting slant on media relations...heres what happened to a Times reporter to whom they'd taken a dislike at yesterday's meeting....charming bunch really.

fuelinjection

You think the BNP are bad, you should look up the National Front on the web.

I met this english guy once, he said the BNP are all talk and no action, according to him, and the National Front go out and beat up non-whites for fun.
Nasty mo-fo. Needs a good 6 months in a small cell to think about life.

Mahatma coat

So A Times Reporter Trolls one of their meetings and gets turfed out, Big surprise there, did he send the Cameraman out ahead of himself or did he have hiim waitin outside for his inevetible photo-op.


Why cant the BNP have a Whites Only Policy?? they represent a demographic that hold that view, so Why is it nescessary to Force them to change, Lets Force the Catholic Church to have Women Priests.

super_furry

I don't get the confusion between religions and political parties - you're comparing apples with oranges.

Rb

Good luck to any blacks or asians that try to join, I'm sure they'll be made feel very welcome.

ceannair06

Mahatma coat wrote: »

So A Times Reporter Trolls one of their meetings and gets turfed out, Big surprise there, did he send the Cameraman out ahead of himself or did he have hiim waitin outside for his inevetible photo-op.


Why cant the BNP have a Whites Only Policy?? they represent a demographic that hold that view, so Why is it nescessary to Force them to change, Lets Force the Catholic Church to have Women Priests.

When you're a bunch of illiterate skinhead Nazis, I believe you cease to be a "demographic" and become a pool of urine on the bus seat of humanity.

the_syco

Rb wrote: »

Good luck to any blacks or asians that try to join, I'm sure they'll be made feel very welcome.

Aye, was thinking the same. I wonder when they'll have a "token black guy" to show that they're not being racist?

Mahatma coat

ceannair06 wrote: »

When you're a bunch of illiterate skinhead Nazis, I believe you cease to be a "demographic" and become a pool of urine on the bus seat of humanity.

They are a growing Demographic, and if you took teh time to look past Pinkoleftie propaganda you might realise that your description f its core base is miles off the mark.
there is a serious issue underlying all of this, one which you seem to have missed

Nodin

Mahatma coat wrote: »

So A Times Reporter Trolls......

He was invited by Nick Griffin. As he was sitting there, with his bheal dunta, another BNP member recognised him, and - having taken issue with an article he'd written previously - had him turfed out. Facts - deadly, aren't they?

ednwireland

the funny thing is the white disenfranchised (or feel they are) go to the BNP, because they think that immigrants are coming in and taking there jobs.
the muslim disenfranchised (or feel they are) get radicalised by muslim clerics. because they are unemployed and wandering the streets as well.

funny old world really (i grew up in a northern town where one of the 7/7 bombers came from)

hallelujajordan

Mahatma coat wrote: »

They are a growing Demographic, and if you took teh time to look past Pinkoleftie propaganda you might realise that your description f its core base is miles off the mark.
there is a serious issue underlying all of this, one which you seem to have missed

Yeah, the issue is whether or not, in a modern, civilised society a political party should have the right to define itself based on the colour of its members skin . . Of course they shouldn't regardless of the size of their demographic and there's nothing pinkoleftie about it.

Hitler had a rather sizable demographic too . . .

Nodin

Rb wrote: »

Good luck to any blacks or asians that try to join, I'm sure they'll be made feel very welcome.

Unless of course they join en masse and then vote for further changes to the constitution. Which would be funny, really.

Mahatma coat

Thing is tho, a lot of the Supporters and voters dont fit yer Disenfranchised motif, a lot have careers and happy families etc, they just dont like the way the world is going and see the BNP or One Nation over here as a viable alternative to the stalemate centreist policies which from which they have seen no real net benefit

Nodin

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Thing is tho, a lot of the Supporters and voters dont fit yer Disenfranchised motif, a lot have careers and happy families etc,

Yes, racists and xenophobes come from all walks of life.

Mahatma coat wrote: »

.....or One Nation over here

They've now no seats, I believe.

jank

Mahatma coat wrote: »

They are a growing Demographic, and if you took teh time to look past Pinkoleftie propaganda you might realise that your description f its core base is miles off the mark.
there is a serious issue underlying all of this, one which you seem to have missed

Which is what? Immigration control is one thing, racist bully boys is quite another. Personally I blame the cyclists.

jank

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Thing is tho, a lot of the Supporters and voters dont fit yer Disenfranchised motif, a lot have careers and happy families etc, they just dont like the way the world is going and see the BNP or One Nation over here as a viable alternative to the stalemate centreist policies which from which they have seen no real net benefit

One nation as in Pauline Hanson's one nation who ran on an anti-immigration ticket who is now a migrant herself (off on a boat to England!). I am sure herself and the BNP will get on very well! Seriously you couldn't make it up.

See thats the problem with the far right, all bark just to get attention. They are kinda amusing for a while but generally people get tired of them and go on their merry ways.

sparkling sea

Mahatma coat wrote: »

They are a growing Demographic, and if you took teh time to look past Pinkoleftie propaganda you might realise that your description f its core base is miles off the mark.
there is a serious issue underlying all of this, one which you seem to have missed

The rise in support for the BNP in the recent past is consistent with trends in other countries, the issue is serious but is also commonly ignored. Periods of increased immigration have historically been accompanied by suspicion within indigenous communities due to the pervasive stereotyping of newcomers, particularly during economic downturns.

While there has been a rise in support for the BNP, their numbers are tiny, yet that receive massive coverage.
Extensive research has shown immigrants and particularly people who are visually different in appearence to the host nation are purposely used as scapegoats by the media, the media as always setting the agenda.

The law states tha you cannot discriminate on the ground of race, coulour or ethnic background. This is European law that has been adopted domestically by a number of countries including the UK and it now supercedes British law, so a political party that dicriminates on the grounds of race, etc must change its constitution if is to be legal. The BNP has been aware for sometime that problems were brewing. A Liverpool police officer suspected of being a member of the BNP was suspended in November 2008; his superior officer commented that the ethos of the BNP could not be reconciled with the principles of the police force.

ei.sdraob

anyone else find it amusing that the OP in his signature has this?



how would the OP feel about the tanned Australians creating a No Pinky Irish Porky Party (NPIPP)

or the Aborigines ask for their land back from the whites?

dsmythy

I'd be worried for the National Black Police Association next. Luckily for them of course on their website they state these two statements:

The NBPA is open to all in policing on application and there is no bar to membership based on colour

AND

The definition of "Black" does not refer to skin colour.

The emphasis is on the common experience and determination of the people of African, African-Caribbean and Asian origin to oppose the effects of racism.

Mahatma coat

ei.sdraob wrote: »

anyone else find it amusing that the OP in his signature has this?



how would the OP feel about the tanned Australians creating a No Pinky Irish Porky Party (NPIPP)

or the Aborigines ask for their land back from the whites?

I have quite a nice tan on me arms and face.

and the Abbos, they can have it one way or the other,

Either they live in the towns and Get on with Life like the Rest of the Population

OR

They F ck off out to Arnemland and live like their ancestors

one or the other, at the moment they want it all, they want 'their' country back, but they want the Whitefellas to keep giving them Free Toyotas.

So Why cant the BNP say that White is a state of mind?

CiaranC

You are an immigrant in a country where immigrants are despised by a sizable minority of the population and also a BNP sympathiser. The mind boggles.

Mahatma coat

Not Immigrants Per se, Just the wrong 'Type' of Immigrants;)

remember that Australia had a Whites Only policy til the seventies.

CiaranC

Yeah, keep fooling yourself, Australians are prepared to take endless amounts of immigrants to gobble up their water supplies as long as they are white. :rolleyes:

Mahatma coat

theres a skills list as well :rolleyes:

But yeah you believe what you like, I'm the one livin here

CiaranC

Youre on the skills list, well done. The BNP has no problem attacking those immigrants on the skills list in the UK

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/157986.php

and neither do anti-immigration Australians.

jank

Mahatma coat wrote: »

theres a skills list as well :rolleyes:

But yeah you believe what you like, I'm the one livin here

If you actually had a point people might listen to you but all it is

rabble rabble rabble abbo rabble rabble white rabble rabble .....

By the way if you do not get the irony of an immigrant complaining about new migrants than you and Pauline deserve each other.

snow ghost

Mahatma coat wrote: »

The BNP have been forced to change its Constitution by the courts.

Right I'm off down to the Local Mosque for a Beer and a Cigarette, Equality and all that, they cant ban me for not being one of them, that'd be racist.

Mahatma coat,

This should come as no great suprise... as the BNP's whites only membership policy was unlawful under British and EU law. I guess the British might expect British political parties - especially those who espouse British values - to uphold the law of the land established by British governments who were elected by the British people.

It would also be unlawful for you to go down to a Mosque in Britain for a cigarette... as Britain implemented a smoking ban in 2007, and as much as I love a beer myself... I hate to break it to you, but Mosques don't actually sell beer.

ei.sdraob

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Not Immigrants Per se, Just the wrong 'Type' of Immigrants;)

Jesus no point arguing with you

you managed to do a good job at making yourself look the fool in this thread

best of luck to you "mate"

Flamed Diving

Mahatma coat wrote: »

Why cant the BNP have a Whites Only Policy??

You gotta love it when MC reveals his true colours. (pun intended)

Flamed Diving

Mahatma coat wrote: »

I have quite a nice tan on me arms and face.

and the Abbos, they can have it one way or the other

Abo / Abbo (AUS) Australian Aboriginal person. Originally, this was simply an informal term for "Aborigine", and was in fact used by Aboriginal people themselves until it started to be considered offensive in 1950s. In remoter areas, Aboriginal people still often refer to themselves (quite neutrally) as "Blackfellas" (and whites as "Whitefellas"). Although "Abo" is still considered quite offensive by many, the pejorative "boong" is now more commonly used when the intent is to deliberately offend, as that word's status as an insult is unequivocal.[3]

Reported for use of a racist term.

the_syco

I had a giggle earlier. An immigrant from Africa wanted to join the BNP was on the radio. I wonder does he not understand that should he join, he'll probably get the sh|t kicked out of him? Sure, they'll open the doors, but one of two things will happen:
a) they'll be more open about what they want to achive
b) people will just set up a more extreme version of BNP

If they people they don't want in their country come into their little club, I don't think the hardcore skinheads will be all that pleased.

ryanch09

there are some points about them that you can agree with though. I dont think they should be racist but a lot of asian and black people agree with BNP that they came to Britain for a british life so there should be a british government....

AARRRGH

I think the BNP are scum, but I find it odd that "whites only" organisations are banned or seen as terrible, but "blacks only" or "Asians only" organisations are seen as grand.

For example, a few weeks ago I was watching something about some sort of black awards ceremony on E! news. It's was seen as great. Imagine the outrage if there was a whites only awards ceremony?!

lugha

There is something curious about people's distaste for some aspects of what the BNP stand for. I certainly have quite a dim view of them because I suspect their ambitions stem from racism and xenophobia, but many people take exception to the more sanitized version of their objective, which is to keep Britain (culturally) British. I personally don't subscribe to that view, I happen to think Ireland has become a more interesting place with the various foreign nationals milling around, but what exactly is wrong with the idea?

If you are Irish and have strong nationalists feelings (interestingly such people are often the fiercest critics of the BNP) then presumably you have a dream for some kind of Ireland which has its own distinct culture and identity. You may not see a threat, indeed you may welcome, a small presence of alternative cultures. But if hypothetically, one such alternative culture were to come and grow in such numbers to such an extent that it materially threatened the one you espouse, then presumably you would not be indifferent to such a state of affairs. Might you not be inclined to do something to try and preserve your own culture?

Scofflaw

AARRRGH wrote: »

I think the BNP are scum, but I find it odd that "whites only" organisations are banned or seen as terrible, but "blacks only" or "Asians only" organisations are seen as grand.

For example, a few weeks ago I was watching something about some sort of black awards ceremony on E! news. It's was seen as great. Imagine the outrage if there was a whites only awards ceremony?!

It's traditionally the case that the minority can exclude the majority from such things on the basis that otherwise they risk being excluded entirely themselves by sheer weight of numbers - while the reverse obviously doesn't apply.

As such, the holding of such minority-exclusive events is in itself a mark of second-class status, whereas the exclusion of a minority by the majority would be a case of further exacerbating such status.

cordially,
Scofflaw

djpbarry

lugha wrote: »

I certainly have quite a dim view of them because I suspect their ambitions stem from racism and xenophobia, but many people take exception to the more sanitized version of their objective, which is to keep Britain (culturally) British. I personally don't subscribe to that view, I happen to think Ireland has become a more interesting place with the various foreign nationals milling around, but what exactly is wrong with the idea?

How do we define what is 'culturally British' and what is not? It's not as black and white (whoops) as the BNP would have us believe.

Cunsiderthis

AARRRGH wrote: »

I think the BNP are scum, but I find it odd that "whites only" organisations are banned or seen as terrible, but "blacks only" or "Asians only" organisations are seen as grand.

For example, a few weeks ago I was watching something about some sort of black awards ceremony on E! news. It's was seen as great. Imagine the outrage if there was a whites only awards ceremony?!

I've often wondered about this too. There are many black only organisations in the UK which are not open to anyone except people who are black (The Black Police Association, for example). If someone tried to start "The White Police Association" they would be, rightly, stopped.

In South Africa there is still racism practiced by the government, but as its a black government practicing racism against the white population, that seems to attract no criticism.

It's disgraceful that any form of racism should be allowed, and we should not tolerate it from wherever it comes.

lugha

djpbarry wrote: »

How do we define what is 'culturally British' and what is not? It's not as black and white (whoops) as the BNP would have us believe.

Granted it is not easy to come up with agreement on what constitutes the culture of any place but I think most people (who care!) have their own sense, if not definition, of what it means to be Irish or British or whatever which would overlap considerably with like minded others. They may not notice minor diminishings of this culture, or not care if they did notice, but what if, by virtue of large scale population movements or whatever, a different culture comes to dominate where theirs once did? Should they just shrug their shoulders and accept it? If so, you have to wonder how important this sense of cultural identity was to them in the first place.

Flamed Diving

Stewart Lee put it brilliantly (as always) in his Live in Glasgow gig. He was in London and walked past a mosque to find the BNP were protesting outside it shouting slogans such as "Send them home!", "Send those bastards back to where they came from!"

And Lee goes; "Yes, send them home!", "Bradford, Leeds, Manchester; and all the other industrial towns that needed cheap labour in the 50's and 60's!"

Quality.