Nissan Tilde Vs Toyota Auris Diesel

Juicethief

Folks

Can you help me choose please? I do a 100 mile a day comute and am looking for a handy size diesel 2008+ . Ive narrowed it down to a nissan tilde 1.6L or a toyota auris 2.0L

I need to decide, so any thoughts appreciated

Thanks

JT

itarumaa

I think they are both quite awful cars, but if I would have to choose, then Auris,

JHMEG

If you're looking in that class maybe look at a Civic.

keithclancy

Juicethief wrote: »

Folks

Can you help me choose please? I do a 100 mile a day comute and am looking for a handy size diesel 2008+ . Ive narrowed it down to a nissan tilde 1.6L or a toyota auris 2.0L

I need to decide, so any thoughts appreciated

Thanks

JT

Both too small .. imo 100 miles / day in those yokes would be torture.

Go for something in the Mondeo/Avensis/Octavia class, much better long distance cruisers.

Your talking 25000 miles / year, so definitely a Diesel is spot on.

Juicethief

Thanks, yes would prefer the civic but you ae talking 3k more expensive unfortunately,

alias no.9

Avoid the Tiida at all costs, it's horrendus.

Tea 1000

keithclancy wrote: »

Both too small .. imo 100 miles / day in those yokes would be torture.

Go for something in the Mondeo/Avensis/OctaviaSuperb class, much better long distance cruisers.

Your talking 25000 miles / year, so definitely a Diesel is spot on.

Octavia in class below.

Juicethief

alias no.9 wrote: »

Avoid the Tiida at all costs, it's horrendus.

to drive , or to look at?

stimpson

I had one as a rental before. The only good thing about driving them is you can't see how horrible it looks from the outside.

+1 for the Auris (if you really have to)

keithclancy

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Octavia in class below.

and the Superb is light years ahead of any of those, its up there with the S-Class .. nearly has more room in the back.

Mondeo is less money than an Octavia, albeit the Titanium spec is nice.

Tea 1000

keithclancy wrote: »

and the Superb is light years ahead of any of those, its up there with the S-Class .. nearly has more room in the back.

Mondeo is less money than an Octavia, albeit the Titanium spec is nice.

It's not light years ahead, and it's not anywhere near an S Class.
Ask Skoda themselves. The Octavia is in the Jetta, Mazda 3, Auris, Tida etc class. The Superb is in the Mondeo, Avensis, Passat etc class.
It might be bigger, but bigger with a few more options doesn't make it light years ahead. And it's impossible to "nearly have more room". You either have more, the same or less than. You can't have nearly more.

Cionád

Tea 1000 wrote: »

And it's impossible to "nearly have more room". You either have more, the same or less than. You can't have nearly more.

I think he just left out a comma "It's up there with the s-class... nearly, has more room in the back"

keithclancy

Cionád wrote: »

I think he just left out a comma "It's up there with the s-class... nearly, has more room in the back"

Indeed

Been in both, the S-Class felt like it has less space though due to being the executive spec with folding tables in the back and large center console with charging points.

Leasing wise though when i was looking, the those cars are in the same band due to total cost of ownership.

Tea 1000

Cionád wrote: »

I think he just left out a comma "It's up there with the s-class... nearly, has more room in the back"

Well, either way. All this talk about how mighty Skoda are, new thread every day on the Superb, and now it's almost as good as a 100,000 S Class. Such muck in fairness.
That's what baffles me about some boards users. How can a Passat be absolutely horrendus and a terrible car, but stretch it by a few inches, add a few buttons, take a couple of grand off the price and add a pair of Skoda badges transform it into an S-Class competitor?
If you stuck back on the VW badges people would be back saying it's over-rated and typical VW muck. Stick on Audi rings and you'd have some thinking it's fab and the rest saying you should get the 3-series instead...

stevenmu

A focus diesel would be in the same range as the two cars mentioned, but might be a nicer more comfortable drive?

alias no.9

Juicethief wrote: »

to drive , or to look at?

In every respect. It's a cheap car designed for third world countries that somehow ended up on our shores because they had no conventional replacement for the Almera which always sold well here.

Drummerboy08

stevenmu wrote: »

A focus diesel would be in the same range as the two cars mentioned, but might be a nicer more comfortable drive?

+1.

Take a look at the Kia Ceed and Hyundai i30 too. Both are much nicer than an Auris or Tiida, and both come with the decent 1.6CRDi unit too.

Juicethief

Appreciate all the responces--
Given that i am lot looking for a "big" car
it's looking like:

1) Civic, Golf , Audi ( all too expensive)
2)focus/mazda3 ( maybe )
3) auris ( was looking likely)
9999) Tilda (run away)

Dare i mention Kia Cee'd 1.6 diesel?

or was considering volvo s40 at one stage but again its more expensive

mailforkev

Agree with all the above posts. They are two cars made for people who must drive but don't like it.

The Auris and Tiida (in particular) are probably amongst the poorest cars in their class. There must be a good few 2008 Focuses up for sale at the moment, a vastly better car.

mickdw

keithclancy wrote: »

Indeed

Been in both, the S-Class felt like it has less space though due to being the executive spec with folding tables in the back and large center console with charging points.

Leasing wise though when i was looking, the those cars are in the same band due to total cost of ownership.

What? Are we still talking about S class versus Skoda Superb?

1948Wolseley

Tea 1000 wrote: »

How can a Passat be absolutely horrendus and a terrible car, but stretch it by a few inches, add a few buttons, take a couple of grand off the price and add a pair of Skoda badges transform it into an S-Class competitor?

Think you just answered your own question there . The Passat isn't a bad car, it's just terribly dull. The Superb, on the other hand, is simply... superb. (Sorry, had to be done).

And yes, mickdw, it would appear that we are.

Tea 1000

1948Wolseley wrote: »

Think you just answered your own question there . The Passat isn't a bad car, it's just terribly dull. The Superb, on the other hand, is simply... superb. (Sorry, had to be done).

And yes, mickdw, it would appear that we are.

Long live badge snobbery I guess, inversely or otherwise!

Colonel Sanders

mailforkev wrote: »

There must be a good few 2008 Focuses up for sale at the moment, a vastly better car.

47 as of half 5

Although I'm not sure how many are in the new tax system and how many in the old

pburns

Juicethief wrote: »

Appreciate all the responces--
Given that i am lot looking for a "big" car
it's looking like:

1) Civic, Golf , Audi ( all too expensive)
2)focus/mazda3 ( maybe )
3) auris ( was looking likely)
9999) Tilda (run away)

Dare i mention Kia Cee'd 1.6 diesel?

or was considering volvo s40 at one stage but again its more expensive

The C'eed would be a thousand times beter than a Tilda and at least twice as good as an Auris. The Hyundai i30 is basically the same car and worth a look also.

Mazda 3 or Focus both good cars. How can you be ho-hum about them and retain the Tilda on your list? You picked the two worst cars in the class!

groupb

keithclancy wrote: »

and the Superb is light years ahead of any of those, its up there with the S-Class .. nearly has more room in the back.

Mondeo is less money than an Octavia, albeit the Titanium spec is nice.

Where can I get a mondeo cheaper than an octavia? The mondeo is much bigger and light years ahead in every way! We have octavias in our job and they were bought for one reason , They were cheap . And one ECU, one engine and one gearbox later , my opinion won't change.

stimpson

Colonel Sanders wrote: »

47 as of half 5

Although I'm not sure how many are in the new tax system and how many in the old

Mad confusing, but if regestired between Jan and June 08 you can tax your car under whichever regime is cheapest...not that you'd know by looking at motortax.ie

Juicethief

pburns wrote: »

The C'eed would be a thousand times beter than a Tilda and at least twice as good as an Auris. The Hyundai i30 is basically the same car and worth a look also.

Mazda 3 or Focus both good cars. How can you be ho-hum about them and retain the Tilda on your list? You picked the two worst cars in the class!

Thanks-- didn't mean to be ho-hum -- mazda is outside budget, and my previous car was a petrol focus, which cost me a fair bit in the last year !

going to test drive a C'eed & I30 asap, tilde is off the list .

still considering the 2.0 L auris though

-Corkie-

I wouldnt go near that nissan its so bland its like a stick of celery. Toyota is to dear for what you get and bland and boring as well. Octavia or focos is nice and should hold its value. btw im sick of this superb s class comparison. The cars are similar length and thats it. Thats where it ends. I have an A8 and god help the poor idiot that tells me its the same as a skoda superb. Its like saying that shagging a sheep is nearly like doing it with paris hilton..........

bazz26

The Tiida and Auris are simply not at the races. I would put the Kia Cee'd and Hyundai i30 above them with regards design, build, spec, reliability and warranty. Pretty much most things that would matter imo.

If you are a keen driver then the Focus should be on your list too.

Juicethief

bazz26 wrote: »

The Tiida and Auris are simply not at the races. I would put the Kia Cee'd and Hyundai i30 above them with regards design, build, spec, reliability and warranty. Pretty much most things that would matter imo.

If you are a keen driver then the Focus should be on your list too.

Thanks, will test drive the C'eed and I30 . I actually preferred the 2L auris to the focus, but that might have been due to the extra bit of umph

Juicethief

Are there no Auris fans out there? They are not scarce on the roads!!

just to add, i'm not a keen driver, just drive coz i have to and want the 100 miles a day to be cheap and relatively comfortable

bazz26

Not many here I would say. I've had Toyotas in the past but the Auris is a poor effort and I can think of no valid reason to buy one over a Cee'd or i30.

Zonda999

Oh but they are compared to the corolla hatch when that was on sale, you see such is the disinterest in cars of the average Irish Toyota buyer that they were unable to see past the simple name change to see that the Auris is the Corolla hatch. This year there have been more Skoda Superbs registered than Auris's and i bet no toyota dealer would have believed that if they had been told it in 2006

bazz26

I would even rate the previous Corolla hatch as being better than the Auris that succeeded it. The Auris lacks progress over the previous model imo despite being 5 years newer.

Zonda999

Absolutely, always though the same thing, the old corolla had an air of quality in even the base model that you simply dont get in the current corolla or auris. I think what has to be taken into account as well is that back when the old corolla came out in 2002, it was significantly better than its korean competitors, the koreans have come on leaps and bounds since then to the point at which many of us on this forum would easily recommend a Cee'd over an Auris whereas no way would have done the same thing back in 2002. that says a lot

Tea 1000

Juicethief wrote: »

Thanks-- didn't mean to be ho-hum -- mazda is outside budget, and my previous car was a petrol focus, which cost me a fair bit in the last year !

going to test drive a C'eed & I30 asap, tilde is off the list .

still considering the 2.0 L auris though

How much are you getting the Auris for considering the rest are outside budget?

Juicethief

12.6k--- only the civics /mazdas are out of budget

& looking at carzone the C'eeds and I30's are just slightly more

bazz26

I reckon you could buy these within budget:

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201002196556847

http://www.driving.ie/usedcars/index.cfm?fuseaction=car&carID=201004196729150

VolvoMan

Juicethief wrote: »

Are there no Auris fans out there? They are not scarce on the roads!!

You only have to look at Corolla saloon sales to see why that is. The Corolla name was basically what sold the car, as there was never much else to recommend about it.

Juicethief

Drove a C'eed today--- better engine def, but prefer the auris still for its interior and think it's more solid............................

VolvoMan

Juicethief wrote: »

Drove a C'eed today--- better engine def, but prefer the auris still for its interior and think it's more solid............................

I was a passenger in an Auris before and noticed how the interior was the last word in solidity. There were creaks off the poor quality trim for the whole journey.

Juicethief

VolvoMan wrote: »

I was a passenger in an Auris before and noticed how the interior was the last word in solidity. There were creaks off the poor quality trim for the whole journey.

Didnt think the auris was top notch, would give it a 5/10 vs 4/10 to the Ceed-- i imagine the I30 would be similar--

next question 1.4 auris or 2.0

Leonard Hofstadter

Zonda999 wrote: »

This year there have been more Skoda Superbs registered than Auris's and i bet no toyota dealer would have believed that if they had been told it in 2006

I think a lot of this is down to the fact that Toyota Ireland have a massive stockpile of Corollas, they have a stockpile of Arses too but not to the same degree, cue Toyota cutting 10% off the price of a Corolla saloon petrol, Kearys in Cork are giving another 3000 off in "double scrappage" to try and get rid of the 1.4 petrols, they're not doing this with the Auris you'll note.

Last year when there were no discounts etc with the Corolla it only outsold the Auris by a small bit, 1501 Corollas vs 1306 Aurises and some of those Corollas were Versos making the margin even smaller.

As regards the cars everything that I wanted to say has been said already, both are awful cars with no redeeming features.

PS: the Nissan is a Tiida, not a "Tilda" or a "Tilde" either;).

Juicethief

I notice some very good prices in the UK for 1.6 diesel Mazda 3 Saloons.

Has anybody any experience of them. They seem very rare here!