Bio Shock 2 now its out what do you think

nevaeh-2die-4

Ok now you got it.

Your first impressions,

I loved the first game so much, I was blown away by the how unique it was the atmosphere etc, playing bio shock 2 it has the main elements of bio shock that i Love,

But I have to say im not warming to the big daddy character at all.

I don’t like the movement of the big daddy, it’s slow and annoying.

What are people’s thoughts so far?

Jazzy

yeah its good. more of the same really thus far

Lab_Mouse

I think both of you's summed it up pretty much.

But I love bioshock so am a bit of a fanboi,will be completely oblivious to its faults.Havent tried on-line yet is it any good?

FutureGuy

Very very similar to the original so far. Not saying that's a bad thing but it feels like I started playing Bioshock 1 again after giving up on it again.

Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm not far into the game yet, but it hasn't started as well as Bioshock 1. Nothing so far has made me say "wow, thats cool". The subtle touches seem to be missing. For example, in Bioshock 1, you encounter a

mother splicer looking into a pram and talking to her child, only for it to pull out a gun instead.

Am playing it on hard from the start. Tough so far.

nevaeh-2die-4

FutureGuy wrote: »

Very very similar to the original so far. Not saying that's a bad thing but it feels like I started playing Bioshock 1 again after giving up on it again.

Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm not far into the game yet, but it hasn't started as well as Bioshock 1. Nothing so far has made me say "wow, thats cool". The subtle touches seem to be missing. For example, in Bioshock 1, you encounter a

mother splicer looking into a pram and talking to her child, only for it to pull out a gun instead.

Am playing it on hard from the start. Tough so far.

playing it on hard myself, i feel its lacking something.


i hope the big daddy turns me around, i just dont like it ,

J-blk

It feels shorter than the first one - I completed the single player on one ending (on normal) and overall, it's really Bioshock 1.5... The graphics, overall style, plasmids, most enemies are exactly the same as the first one. And even though the story gets engaging enough (especially near the end), it doesn't pull you in as much as the first did, neither does it have any huge plot twists IMO.

The hacking mini-game changes are for the better but on the other hand, what's the point of the

outside sections, walking on the ocean floor? You can't do anything other than walk from A to B...

I still enjoyed it and will probably play through it again for the alternate ending, but it doesn't have the charm or awesomeness of the first one - feels more like a large expansion pack than a brand new game...

Mr E

How long is it?

ShadowHearth

well i got it yesterday. loved it so far. And i love that its bioshock 1.5, loved the first one. I just whanted more of same!


I am a fanboy of bioshock, and i am proud of it. You like it or not


Havent tryed multiplayer yet, but as long as that goes, it could just not even be in game... i did not care much about it...

drill hnd, i whant IRL on...

A-Trak

J-blk wrote: »

I still enjoyed it and will probably play through it again for the alternate ending, but it doesn't have the charm or awesomeness of the first one - feels more like a large expansion pack than a brand new game...

Cheers, this confirms it as a rental or cheap pick up down the line for me, too many unfinished games sitting unloved to get through already.

(I'm looking at you borderlands, with your open ended gameplay and DLC :mad:)

FutureGuy

Yep, Bioshock 1.5, thats a good way to sum it up. Extra-large DLC for Bioshock 1 is another way.

I do like the new hacking system, it's way better than the old one which became boring fast.

It seems one Boardsie has already completed it. It looks like I won't be keping it beyond a week so!

J-blk

Mr E wrote: »

How long is it?

I'm not 100% sure but I think it took me around 12 hours total... I didn't bother exploring every nook and cranny though, just followed the main story really. Playing on hard from the onset may be a good idea because I found normal to be way too easy: there are ridiculous amount of first aid kits and eve hypos dropped around the place, so surviving even Big Daddy

or Big Sister

fights is pretty easy. I think I only died once or twice the entire way through and it was purely by accident .

ShadowHearth

J-blk wrote: »

I'm not 100% sure but I think it took me around 12 hours total... I didn't bother exploring every nook and cranny though, just followed the main story really. Playing on hard from the onset may be a good idea because I found normal to be way too easy: there are ridiculous amount of first aid kits and eve hypos dropped around the place, so surviving even Big Daddy

or Big Sister

fights is pretty easy. I think I only died once or twice the entire way through and it was purely by accident .

what difficulty you played? i am playing on hard, and died loads of times . first big sister encounter was really hard, had only 1 med kit left over and feck all ammo

Mr E

J said "normal" on an earlier post.
I think I'll go for hard (if Zavvi ever deliver the damn thing).

J-blk

Yep, "normal" - and like I said, I think "hard" makes more sense, as it's too easy otherwise...

ShadowHearth

J-blk wrote: »

Yep, "normal" - and like I said, I think "hard" makes more sense, as it's too easy otherwise...

well you are big daddy!

btw am i the only one, who allmoust cryed of the opening scene . That really set me up to get that B*TCH!

cherryghost

very good so far.

read in another thread that the drill is satisfying. it isnt. its crap, and i only use it when i need to. So far so good. Story is very enthralling... might I say, its probably better than the first one, so far.

Big Daddys movements dont bother me too much.

The multiplayer element is fun, but gets weary after a while (that and I top the leaderboard on every match )



EDIT: Also, the game runs on a P4 3.0ghz, with 2gb ram and a 6600GT, which is below system requirements, at a smooth enough framerate (about 30-35) on mid/low settings at 1024 x 768.

J-blk

cherryghost wrote: »

read in another thread that the drill is satisfying. it isnt. its crap, and i only use it when i need to.

There's a helluva lot of drill updates to get throughout the game, both via "Power to the People" weapon upgrades and tonics. If upgraded, the drill is pretty powerful, even against Big Daddies. Though on the other hand, you can upgrade other things to do huge damage to everything as well, especially the plasmids and those are far more fun to use (I still get a chuckle out of "frying" splicers standing in water though it's not a new thing...).

cherryghost

J-blk wrote: »

There's a helluva lot of drill updates to get throughout the game, both via "Power to the People" weapon upgrades and tonics. If upgraded, the drill is pretty powerful, even against Big Daddies. Though on the other hand, you can upgrade other things to do huge damage to everything as well, especially the plasmids and those are far more fun to use (I still get a chuckle out of "frying" splicers standing in water though it's not a new thing...).

I know, i have a lot of the drill upgrades now. Dunno, just dont find that part of the game as satisfying as it could have been

Grimebox

fcuk off microsoft live.

ShadowHearth

J-blk wrote: »

There's a helluva lot of drill updates to get throughout the game, both via "Power to the People" weapon upgrades and tonics. If upgraded, the drill is pretty powerful, even against Big Daddies. Though on the other hand, you can upgrade other things to do huge damage to everything as well, especially the plasmids and those are far more fun to use (I still get a chuckle out of "frying" splicers standing in water though it's not a new thing...).

damn right drill is awesome! Thought allways low on fuel . Its still amazing even withouth fuel, freeze, then 1 shot bang splicer . I am pumping upgrades on drill and shotgun. 2 moust satisfying pew pew items in game , outside plasmids ofc!

Just got mine favorite plasmids: ICE BABE ICE!

J-blk

ShadowHearth wrote: »

Just got mine favorite plasmids: ICE BABE ICE!

Yep, winter blast rocks - I made the mistake of upgrading lightning/fire first but near the end of the game I went straight to level 3 winter blast and it rocks . Plus, you can freeze splicers, then use telekinisis to throw the frozen enemies onto other enemies .

Krieg

I really like it, it is the same as Bioshock1 with a few differences/extras but that doesn't put me off. Im nearly finished it and Im planning on a second play through.

The drill is disappointing for me in that it should Sound more dangerous. In B1, the drill sounded like a proper industrial "**** off" drill, but when you now get to use it, it sounds like an old fart of a thing.

Shotgun

seems out of place compared to other weapons.

Machine gun

is fun

Grimebox wrote: »

fcuk off microsoft live.

This.
I dont know why but I hate MS live despite not actually using it.
Whats the consensus on multiplayer?

johnny_ultimate

Playing on normal with vita chambers off. Makes a big difference to difficulty, but the autosave system on PS3 anyway is a little wonky as it only saves at the start of the level so have to keep manually saving as levels tend to last for an hour or two.

I'm enjoying it so far. The atmosphere is retained, as is the general structure, and the overall gameplay seems smoother. Big fan of the

gathering

sessions - line up fifteen or twenty

trap rivets

and snicker in a corner while picking off the one or two splicers who make it through is always an appealing strategy

Levels are fairly sprawling, and so far the level design has ranged from fun & insightful

(Ryan Amusements)

to slightly dull

(Pauper's Drop)

. As with the first, the game is at its best when slowly dismantling the downfall of rapture, or introducing us to the quirky characters who inhabit it

(my train carriage just got shot down by someone who looks and talks like a demented sea captain, which is always welcome)

. It is a rare franchise that tries to say something - a city based on ideologies, and for me its fascinating to learn again how it all went wrong (even though the new villain seems a shoehorned into the world, as many reviewers have pointed out). Yet I still am very weary of the

Big Sisters - their slightly forced arrival after you deal with every Little Sister seems at odds with the rest of the design, and so far anyway there has been no narrative explanation for this (I'll wait and see before fully deciding, but so far they seem like the laziest addition, even if they do add some combat variety).

It is worth the trip just to explore every inch you can of the city, and I always am interested in what is up the next stairs (there are way too many canned goods around the place - can get a bit overwhelming with the amount of pick-ups!). And most gameplay aspects, as said before, are massively improved - from the research to the weapons (although shooting still doesn't seem smooth enough). It isn't quite as exciting stepping foot into Rapture again, but it is a good reminder of what makes the setting so special. This is definitely a game more about the place and the people rather than the actual gameplay, but at least they're making strides in that area too!

Woow_Aqualung

Whilst I found Bioshock a brilliant game I also found it the gameplay bit repetitive. How does Bioshock 2 compare? (And did other people find Bioshock repetitive or is it just me and my RPG mindset?)

cherryghost

nearly finished single player me thinks. good so far

calex71

I havent actually played the single player game yet, multiplayer only for a bit this evening. It's ok , good even, but little new you haven't played a fair few times before elsewhere. There are these trial things that you can do like kill 30 with a shot gun etc that may add some motivation for playing them but over all has no lasting appeal.

Krieg

WORD OF WARNING - MS LIVE - IT MAY DELETE YOUR SAVES WHEN YOU LOGIN/SEARCH DOWNLOAD CONTENT

I went to check out DLC through the game menu, I wasn't expecting to find much. So I had to set up live account. That was a pain in the arse as it wouldn't accept 5 different usernames despite no mention of them being used already and the were all letters, no spaces or dashes. THEN, I had to put up with code verification (read distorted alphanumeric code and type it in, anti-bot thing) that was impossible to read as the extortion was excessive and had to use the audio instead. Bla bla, set up account, logged in, searching for less than a min then bang. An error message comes up telling me saves are now lost. I went to check and sure enough, all saves deleted....
Luckily I had just completed the game but still pissed off.

Now maybe it just didnt like me and decided to delete my saves and no on elses, but ill leave the word of warning.

And as I said in the previous post.

**** you MS, **** you right in the ear



edit: Great game though...


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TwoShedsJackson

Woow_Aqualung wrote: »

Whilst I found Bioshock a brilliant game I also found it the gameplay bit repetitive. How does Bioshock 2 compare? (And did other people find Bioshock repetitive or is it just me and my RPG mindset?)

It really is more of the same, if you found the first repetitive, you're going to find this repetitive. Good game though.

ShadowHearth

J-blk wrote: »

Yep, winter blast rocks - I made the mistake of upgrading lightning/fire first but near the end of the game I went straight to level 3 winter blast and it rocks . Plus, you can freeze splicers, then use telekinisis to throw the frozen enemies onto other enemies .

You can?!!?!?!?!



Ill try that out

I just love bioshock, and love bioshock 2. I am taking mine time with it, not rushing at all.

The city it self is just amazing, all i do moust of the time is: go as far as possible from objective and explore! All small details make the game just amazing. Even those small biuld shelters in streets, with spot to sleep, a few candles, picture or two, sometimes audio log... those scums walking around the places that you have cleared allready.... it just feels that city lives not for you, but on its own! thats what i loved about bioshock, and this one brought it to next level.

Love the big daddy suit, its pro. Even small details like water droping on your helm, which makes pure metal sound, makes game so atmoustheric ( sorry if i spelled it wrong).

You need more tactical way in bioshock, so far i needed to manage mine ammo really carefully. constantly looking for enviromental ways of killing enemies. tactical trap placement while defending little sister.

Again one of best games for me, i am just in love with it. You aither like it or dont i think. And no point people proving its a good game!

J-blk

ShadowHearth wrote: »

You can?!!?!?!?!

Yep . I think you need at least level 2 of winter blast (like I said, I had enought Adam and just got all 3 levels in one go, so I'm not sure what you can and can't do with levels 1 and 2) to freeze them into an ice block which you can then throw around.

TrustedReviews put up their review today and it sums up exactly how I feel about the game: still great and some nice improvements over the original, but does not have quite the same "magic" that the first one did.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/video-games/review/2010/02/11/BioShock-2/p1

Probably gonna play the "evil" path this weekend on hard though... I want to see what happens .

Mr E

Got my Rapture Limited Edition from Zavvi.... the artwork book is very well made, glad I got it. Looking forward to a weekend under the sea....

Mr. K

Mr E wrote: »

Got my Rapture Limited Edition from Zavvi....

A friend gave me the Rapture Edition for my birthday. It's much better presented than I expected. I assumed they'd just give the artbook with the game, but it's all in a neat box! Might finish Bayonetta before I play Bioshock 2 though...

seanybiker

Im enjoying it. seems to be a carbon copy of the first one. there was nothing wrong with the first one so its all good.

Grimebox

Did you guys harvest the little girls or did you save them? Is the same as the first where you just get double ADAM for harvesting? I've only played for an hour or two and I can't see why id bother saving them

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar

well in bioshock 1 the only difference it made was less adam and a short cut scene at the end of the game iirc. i hope there's some other difference in this game, that really annoyed me about 1.

i'm loving this game, just got into dionysus park.. spent half the day just walking around the area before that taking it all in. I am in absolutely no rush to get this over with.. i'm sure the game has flaws but i'm enjoying it so much I just can't see them right now. Definitely going to get a few repeat plays.

oh wait, I thought of a flaw.. it needs a difficulty harder than Hard. Hard is quite challenging in places but I'm worried that my repeat playthrough is going to seem a little stale without a ramp up in difficulty.

Valmont

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

well in bioshock 1 the only difference it made was less adam and a short cut scene at the end of the game iirc.

Nope, the little sister left you little presents if you saved them and you couldn't get the control big daddy plasmid any other way (it was crap anyway).

I'm two hours in already and I'm loving the story. I really don't think people recognise or appreciate a quality story enough in the gaming world. I read a lot of Ayn Rand so I find the Bioshock story very exciting.

Especially now that the main bad guy is a collectivist! Joy! A Major bonus for me was finding more tapes with Andrew Ryan's voice, I always enjoyed listening to him. I just relish the immersion that Bioshock provides.

J-blk

Grimebox wrote: »

Did you guys harvest the little girls or did you save them? Is the same as the first where you just get double ADAM for harvesting? I've only played for an hour or two and I can't see why id bother saving them

I saved them all on my first play through... you get some additional rewards for saving them. I also think it affects the way the last level plays through, though I'm not sure yet since I haven't gone through the game harvesting them - but something "significant" that happens in the very end, probably doesn't happen if you harvest them...

There are also 3 other points in the game were you are given good/evil choices and unlike Bioshock 1, what you do at those points does somewhat affect things in subsequent sections.

calex71

did anyone get the achievement for

whacking ryan mannequin in the head with the golf club in the amusement park using telekinesis?

thought that was a nice touch indeed.

Find i'm dying very easily on medium though

Valmont

calex71 wrote: »

Find i'm dying very easily on medium though

I did for a good while too; it took me some time before I was able to cycle through weapons and plasmids properly and to learn strategies for different enemies.

Whoever said they didn't like the drill? That and the drill bash move have saved me from every hulk, big daddy and big sister I've come across. Ah, I don't want it to end!

Healium

Waiting for my Limited Edition to arrive from Play.com Could be a while

ShadowHearth

Healium wrote: »

Waiting for my Limited Edition to arrive from Play.com Could be a while

lol was it uber edition? when did you ordered it? you still not getting it since release?!

Mr. K

Just finished Ryan's Amusements, it's pretty great so far. Loved all the displays that went through Rapture's history and Ryan's philosophies.

J-blk

Play.com can be really slow sometimes... I've had stuff take as long as two weeks to show up :mad:.

Healium

ShadowHearth wrote: »

lol was it uber edition? when did you ordered it? you still not getting it since release?!

I actually would have whored myself to get that Uber Edition :P

Special Edition with the record for me

J-blk wrote: »

Play.com can be really slow sometimes... I've had stuff take as long as two weeks to show up :mad:.

AHHH! Shut up! It HAS to come Monday

dazberry

I'm taking my time and playing in small bursts - otherwise I'd overdose and so far so good.

The only thing is that I played BS1 @ 1280x1024. This time around I'm @ 1680x1050 and it seems off somehow and has been annoying me a bit. Came across this in the meantime. Will likely have it finished by the time the patch appears.

D.

Healium

dazberry wrote: »

I'm taking my time and playing in small bursts - otherwise I'd overdose and so far so good.

The only thing is that I played BS1 @ 1280x1024. This time around I'm @ 1680x1050 and it seems off somehow and has been annoying me a bit. Came across this in the meantime. Will likely have it finished by the time the patch appears.

D.

The patch came out today, but did much more harm than good. It kills multiplayer and causes loads more problems than it solves

Jazzy

computer broke a day after getting it.

i hate my life

SeantheMan

Lol @ Jazzy

Suprised noones commented on the Multiplayer really.
I was a fanboi of the first one, so I jumped straight into MP before even trying the single player.
Its like COD in the way you level up, so higher levels have MUCH better weapons/bonuses etc which can be quite annoying.
In FFA whoever gets the Big Daddy suit usually wins.
Tbh,...MP is average at best

Enjoying the Single player too...only gripe would be...CRAP...SCATTERED...EVERYWHERE.
You spend about half your time searching drawers, or corners, or crates for crappy stuff, and some of it is so pointless and have such a minimal effect ...drinks/food.....that you just take everything , because its quicker than filtering what you need and what you dont.

Obviously the character has a bottomless sack in which to store all this muck.

Apart from that its great. Not likin the idea of spending the whole game trying to get to this 1 little sister though. Paedo

seanybiker

Ok I have changed my mind. First time playing it I enjoyed it. Now after a few hours of playing it I must say I love it. Im tempted to go back down to my computer and pull an all nighter but I dont want to clear it to fast.

LuckyFinigan

Played it for a few hour yesterday and im after really getting in to it, the big sisters are a good challange tho ya really need to prepare before ya fight them.

nevaeh-2die-4

from the first post, i have now played it for a few hours.

im loving it .

the graphics are the same i feel it really is just a bio shock 1.5

all the stuff scattered everywhere is quiet annoying , i find most of my time just searching boddies.

any way , still a good game.