What sort of Boat do you paddle???

dubes

What boat/boats do you usually paddle?

I could make a poll but theres too many types!!!

thetonynator

I paddle K1 or K2 racing boats usually . . .

Sometimes i mess about on a weir in a creek boat, when the waters high . . .

And the occasional trip in a wavehopper!

dubes

thetonynator wrote: »

I paddle K1 or K2 racing boats usually . . .

Sometimes i mess about on a weir in a creek boat, when the waters high . . .

And the occasional trip in a wavehopper!

What sort of K1 do you have?

thetonynator

a long pointy fast one, called a nelo vanquish . . .

Dutchie

thetonynator wrote: »

a long pointy fast one, called a nelo vanquish . . .

its a pity you can't paddle it fast!

thetonynator

Dutchie wrote: »

its a pity you can't paddle it fast!

Is that what you think of all thomastown paddlers???


Wait til the season starts!!!:D

Donegal: 3 weeks to go!!!

hitlersson666

i mostly use this http://www.greatoutdoors.ie/shopping_admin/product_details/product.cgi?product=GT&cat=Kayaking%20and%20Canoeing&sub=Kayaking%20and%20Canoeing--White%20Water%20Kayaks wished i owned one

thetonynator

hitlersson666 wrote: »

i mostly use this http://www.greatoutdoors.ie/shopping_admin/product_details/product.cgi?product=GT&cat=Kayaking%20and%20Canoeing&sub=Kayaking%20and%20Canoeing--White%20Water%20Kayaks wished i owned one

i was going to suggest a whipround but then i saw the price . . .:(

hitlersson666

haha i guess i'll just have to save

kieranfitz

A sit on top frenzy

Brian?

Bliss Stick Mac1, not that I've been paddling it much the last while.

sineadgalway

an old town canadian and also do some sea kayaking but had to buy a new laptop instead of a boat:(

hunnymonster

I think we're confused in our house, we've 9 different kayaks in the shed :-(

se conman

I have a bic ouassou and a madrivercanoe adventure 14 .As we just go hopping weirs for fun , we will use anything that floats from sitons to old fiberglass canoes.

Zuppy

hunnymonster wrote: »

I think we're confused in our house, we've 9 different kayaks in the shed :-(

Your oh so lucky there...... :D

ec18

usually a juice, outlaw or other similar river runner

theboat

I'm a huge fan of the outlaw for river-running. Good for surfing too!
What I really want is a Burn, though it seems that everyone else does too!

drBill

Necky Jive on rivers. Good compromise between river runner and playboat, very happy with it.
Perception Carolina on the sea. Almost as wide as it is long but comfortable for long paddles in any conditions and with lots of storage. A good solid choice for a first boat but would probably trade up at this stage if I could manage more time on the sea.

ozt9vdujny3srf

A Dagger Nomad and a Jackson All-Star (GP Boats)

joey100

When paddling with my mates either playboating or running smaller white water rivers, a perception spin. The last ever playboat made by perception and if you can fit in it quite possibly the best small playboat ever! When instructing usually paddle a mamba 8.0 and when running big rivers usually a mamba 7.5.

Come from a family of paddlers so usually have a big choice of boats! On last count about 10 plastic boats and 3 fibreglass in the back garden.

cyrusdvirus

@ Truckle.. What's the Nomad like? I've been in a Mamba a few times and an older pyrahna burn. I like the mamba but for some reason a nomad (which i've never been in so don't have a clue how they are for a relative novice like myself) is the one i'm drawn to puchasing. Mrs Crash has her eye on a Mamba

kayaksurfbum

Mega Vanquish
riot Inferno

ozt9vdujny3srf

Hi Gatecrash, The nomad is a full on roundy hulled creek boat (for steep pool drop type rivers, like the clare glens), it's pyranha equivalent is the karnali. The Burn and the Mamba are planing hulled river running boats (for rivers like the annamoe, glen mac nass, upper liffey), so they are quite different. The nomad's hull has pretty much been designed to be as predictable and forgiving as possible, and it has all the safety features a full on creek boat should have (step-out solid centre pillar, loads of grab loops). However its a very different style of paddling to boats like the mamba or the burn, which are less forgiving, but have the benefits of having a boat with rails (wich means edging has a much more dramatic effect on how the boat handles).

I'm no expert on the gear, but imo that there is no way the mamba is 200 euros better then a burn, or the Nomad is 200 euros better then the Karnali.

christramp

:pac:River run and creek in a Wavesport habitat and playboat in a Riot Flair - Family fun in a 17 foot Coleman canadian

dubes

Nelo Vanquish 3

brilliant!!

adrianshanahan

Knox Purring Self-denial wrote: »

Hi Gatecrash, The nomad is a full on roundy hulled creek boat (for steep pool drop type rivers, like the clare glens), it's pyranha equivalent is the karnali. The Burn and the Mamba are planing hulled river running boats (for rivers like the annamoe, glen mac nass, upper liffey), so they are quite different. The nomad's hull has pretty much been designed to be as predictable and forgiving as possible, and it has all the safety features a full on creek boat should have (step-out solid centre pillar, loads of grab loops). However its a very different style of paddling to boats like the mamba or the burn, which are less forgiving, but have the benefits of having a boat with rails (wich means edging has a much more dramatic effect on how the boat handles).

I'm no expert on the gear, but imo that there is no way the mamba is 200 euros better then a burn, or the Nomad is 200 euros better then the Karnali.

Hi Knox Purring Self-denial,

Without any diss respect ment allot of what you said is mixed up and incorrect.

Adrian

christramp

I think Truckle has made a few good points and they are his opinion, everyone has one and are entitled to them. I think it would be best to post your own opinions otherwise it may discourage people from posting their views;););););););)

ozt9vdujny3srf

adrianshanahan wrote: »

Hi Truckle,

Without any diss respect ment allot of what you said is mixed up and incorrect.

Adrian

I don't think it's fair to make a sweeping comment like that without explaining yourself. Reading over my post, The only inaccuracy is that I implied that the karnali has a full on displacement hull like the nomad, as opposed to a softened planing hull. I would consider it pyranha's competition with he nomad though.

Recon

I have a Riot Disco and a Dagger Vertigo

Cian92

A dagger GT. Great for white water, surfing and river running. Borrow one for long flatwater kayaking.

youngblood

Have a Bic Bilbao, but feel to need to migrate to a proper kayak at this stage! Possibly a dagger of some sort so if you guys have one in mind lemme know!

christramp

Dagger GT
Dagger GT max
Pyranha burn
Dagger mamba
Liquid logic hoss
Ligud logic remix
too many to list
Check out the sticky for resources and places you can buy boats from one in particular specialise in used boats.

youngblood

Thanks for those Chris, would ideally like to take some for a test spin to see which suits, I really enjoy the comfort and ease of my own-am spoiled I think!

christramp

Yep, thats a good plan, every boat is different and suits everyone differently. I have a few boats - if you are ever down in west wicklow / carlow let me know and ill bring some out for you to try. Just let me know a couple of days b4 as Im mad busy at work and work shifts at times. Also if you can, get joined in a club they will have a large amount of boats to try b4 you commit to buying

kayaksurfbum

Recon wrote: »

I have a Riot Disco and a Dagger Vertigo

Vertigo, ah man the memories of the vertigo, class boat. I remember everyone saying you'll never take that down a river, you'll be killed! Did my first run in the glens in one. Great boat for the gour too. Sold it to get a techno.

Recon

kayaksurfbum wrote: »

Vertigo, ah man the memories of the vertigo, class boat. I remember everyone saying you'll never take that down a river, you'll be killed! Did my first run in the glens in one. Great boat for the gour too. Sold it to get a techno.

I just got the Vertigo last year at the Intervarsities for my dad, very happy with it. It gets a good bit of use when I bring some friends out for a paddle.

youngblood

christramp wrote: »

Yep, thats a good plan, every boat is different and suits everyone differently. I have a few boats - if you are ever down in west wicklow / carlow let me know and ill bring some out for you to try. Just let me know a couple of days b4 as Im mad busy at work and work shifts at times. Also if you can, get joined in a club they will have a large amount of boats to try b4 you commit to buying

Cheers for the offer mate
Yea I have to join a club, bein paddling with mates for the last 2 years mainly down in cork but still think I've learned feck all skills- after recently moving to the midlands so Tullamore or Mullingar would be my nearest, unsure which is better and whether I could bring me sit on a long?

irishlostboy

fluid flirt M
dagger CFS

formerly paddled:
pyranha sub7 2ball
pyranha attak
pyranha attak (so good i bought it twice)
perception piroette.

wet-paint

How do you find the Flirt? I paddled one for a day last summer, and I hated it. Usually it's a Rad, and I felt that the huge rocker break at the front was slowing me the **** right down, it had damn all speed, and my knees were up so high and near to me that I had less power to move the boat with them.
Wanted my boat back pronto.

irishlostboy

wet-paint wrote: »

How do you find the Flirt?

i love the flirt. its high ends make it very forgiving running rivers. the slicyness of the ends make verticle moves a breeze. seriously easy. the high volume at the knees and the bubble of volume on the back make it very retentive. it never flushes on a tail-end, which is sweet. the extreme rocker breaks do make it quite slow on a wave, but not much more than a star. if it seems extra slow it is probably because the seat was not positioned right. it spins very well, and carves (on river waves) fine too.
in the ocean surf its not too good. having come from a sub7 which surfs like a monster, it was quite a shock not being able to carve and bottom turn properly, but then all modernish playboats are in this bracket now. the sacrafice for something that bounces.
the high knee area, combined with the terrible foot-room makes it uncomfortable as hell. i am 6'2" and 11 stone. i am the lower end of the weight scale, but the max height that can fit into it. the higher knee area does make it possible to raise your seating position to give you better torque, if you can handle the balance offset. the enourmously wide hull and knee area make it a potentially tough boat to roll if your roll is not solid. tough to get your body wrapped around so much boat to set-up.
compared to the rad, the flirt is slower in front surf. it is more forgiving on the tail, spins and bounces better, and is more retentive than the rad. also a bit lighter. outfitting is rubbish and not comfortable.
having said all that, i will not give up my flirt for anything less than a 2010 star in crosslink plastic. i got it for 600 quid new from i-canoe in a hurry as i needed a boat pronto after breaking my sub7. wasnt sure if i liked the flirt at first, but love it now. it is a quirky boat compared to a lot of others that would take a while to figure out i guess. especially if your roll is in any way sloppy.
hope this helps. boats are so fun to compare.

Etienne Muller

I have seven sea kayaks at the moment, but mostly I have been paddling my home made North Star

adrianshanahan

Etienne Muller wrote: »

I have seven sea kayaks at the moment, but mostly I have been paddling my home made North Star

Nice, hand made strip built...I'm a little jeaslous if Im hinest.

Taltos

adrianshanahan wrote: »

Nice, hand made strip built...I'm a little jeaslous if Im hinest.

Etienne - every time I see one of your photos I get the urge to try my hand at this.... Almost tempted to print out photos of some of your craft to keep me motivated in work - something to aim for
So far step 1 complete - got rid of one car - so a bit of space - not enough but a start.

Anyway back to the subject at hand - got a Nigel Dennis Explorer.
Tried it and fell in love. Unfortunately my balance has not caught up with my heart yet - thinking I should have gone for a plastic Aquanaut (HV) to start with - rounder keel - waves roll under less likely to pull.

Anyhow - now I have a dream of saving up for a 2nd hand - only a dream at the moment but it will come....
Des and the team have tried to help me with my balance - but instead have convinced me that the Aquanaut is the one for me for right now - as it it rock-hopping only has my heart in my mouth.

Etienne Muller

Taltos wrote: »

Anyway back to the subject at hand - got a Nigel Dennis Explorer. Tried it and fell in love. Unfortunately my balance has not caught up with my heart yet - thinking I should have gone for a plastic Aquanaut (HV) to start with - rounder keel - waves roll under less likely to pull.

Taltos

Just a quick thought before you give up on the Explorer.

The Explorer is a nice boat if you take the time to get comfortable with it. I have an older one and find it is better without the supplied seat comfortwise. I don't know if the seat has been changed in more recent versions but you may find removing the seat and sitting on a thin pad or a minicel seat gives you a little more stability and confidence to start with. You can always put the seat back in later.

Another useful exercise can be to find someone with a boat that is much tippier than yours. Paddle the tippy boat for a day and when you get back into the Explorer you will find it more user friendly. It helps if it is a warm day as you may spend some time in the water. The ideal boat for the exercise would be a fast surfski, as you can just climb back on when you fall in. Take a friend and a paddle-float along.

Et

Cathald04

some sort of double dutch carbon kevlar c1, pyranha sub7 1 ball, h2. romany explorer

rooney32

i paddle a large burn not the strongest boat ever made but really comfortable, and easy to get out of when the situation occurs!!!!:D

irishlostboy

Etienne Muller wrote: »

....... mostly I have been paddling my home made North Star...............

that is a seriously cool looking kayak. beautiful work. i dont sea kayak, but i love nice woodwork.

Recon

Got an orange one of these on Monday, took it out for a paddle yesterday to get my seat adjustment and all that sorted. Going out again tomorrow and see how I get one in a hole

irishlostboy

Recon wrote: »

Got an orange one of these on Monday, took it out for a paddle yesterday to get my seat adjustment and all that sorted. Going out again tomorrow and see how I get one in a hole

nice one. hope you have fun in it. watch out for the tail on it.

MugMugs

Oldest first

Prijon T Canyon - Titanic of the river !

Perception 3D - I love this boat so much I just cant get rid of her.

Pyrhana H3 - Hate it but it does me well

Wave Sport Project - mmmmmmmmm Green lovliness !

Taltos

Posted earlier about my kayak - Explorer

Can be found here: http://www.seakayakinguk.com/

Also said I like the aquanaut - find it here: http://www.valleyseakayaks.com/content/boats/composite/aquanaut-hv-rm

The 2nd is a really nice boat - esp for those like me whose inner ear is a big sluggish...

Also once tried a tandem sit on top in Australia.
Well since my wife and I took up kayaking to do more things together we thought this would be fun. Be very careful out there with thinking a tandem is fun - needs alot of patience and good timing with your partner. Actually was good fun - but after being in the enclosed kayak it did feel strange being open to waves washing in on top of me. Definitely see the advantage in hotter climes - but I have no experience of rolling one of these.

Have yet to try river / surf kayaks - but maybe at some time. Surfing on the explorer is "fun" - at least the group keeps telling me it is...