M4 vs AK47

40040D

Im set to buy a new aeg and I can't decide between an M4 or an Ak47...Can someone plz help!!
Cheers

thermo

ak47,,,,,,,,,,, old skool!

tonyj_mc

buy both...


no really buy both whichever you buy, you'll want the other one in a couple of weeks

roryk1

M4 all the way
http://b2b.guay2.com/eng_our_product/gr15_raider-L.htm

Leftyflip

Lock it, lock it now!!!!

andy_g

i have both great guns also add any of the styer range to your list

Stonewolf

Get a G36 instead, M4 and AK are common and boring

swiftblade

Why does this question keep coming up? Its like saying which is better "Ice cream or pie"? They both have their good points and flaws.

40040D

tonyj_mc wrote: »

buy both...


no really buy both whichever you buy, you'll want the other one in a couple of weeks

Wish i could!
Just after getting a loan of a friends Ak47, - he just bought an M4. The Ak's not a bad rifle, high ROF but the ability to add an acog & 203 isn't as good compared to the M4

andy_g wrote: »

i have both great guns also add any of the styer range to your list

Have an A1 Aug - Its brilliant ! Time too upgrade to somethn more customisable though..

Stonewolf wrote: »

Get a G36 instead, M4 and AK are common and boring

Ahh never really liked the G36...too futery? futuristic lookin lol !

Cheers for all the suggestions :D

Stonewolf

40040D wrote: »

Wish i could!
Just after getting a loan of a friends Ak47, - he just bought an M4. The Ak's not a bad rifle, high ROF but the ability to add an acog & 203 isn't as good compared to the M4

ROF greatly depends on what brand, upgrades and battery. The AK can also be equipped with a rail for mounting sights on. In airsoft an underbarrel grenade launcher is a heavy expensive ornament that makes your gun awkward and front heavy which occasionally functions as a one shot big dirty shotgun. You can buy underbarrel launchers for the AK easily.

tonyj_mc

to be honest both AEGs are pretty much the same on the inside and work in the same way. the ROF and FPS are dependant on the manufacture and model you buy, not to mention type of battery used. Best bet is to buy the one you like the look of and then go from there.

Both AEGs are stupidly customisable, M4 is slighlty easier to do with RIS rails but its up to you

thermo

The most reliable aeg iv ever owned was a cyma ak47! With over 300,000 bb's through it with out a jam, stoppage or even a blown fuse, I couldn't fault it!

Masada

Get the M4, cos if you get the AK you'll be supporting terrorism.


nah but id go with the M4 for ergonomics and the AK for a better designed gearbox. really depends on the brand of the guns you are comparing though.,

Firekitten

If someone posts a link to that M4 AK hybrid I will boil thier eyes in the urine of phractal and serve it in a temple barf takeaway...


Personally, both guns perform rather similarly. There is no real advantage or disadvantage, the OP wants one or the other, not 'oh they are boring get an aug/g36/mp5/sig/new toaster.

AK

Advantages:

Hopup is one of the most stable in airsoft
v3 gearbox... nice, stable
good long barrel, 460mm
comfortable to shoot and shoulder
good iron sights
motor cage - rarely locks anti reversal latch, partly due to motor stability, partly due to v3 design

Disadvantages:

big mags
no ris (I'm being practical, i'd put this in advantages personally!)
limited batteries depending on model
long gun


M4

Advantages:

Huge variety of option parts
easy to customise
medium length weapon
ajustable stock length for shooter
easy to add accessories
smaller mags
common: Can share mags in the field if you run out
comfortable to shoulder

Disadvantages:

not one of the best hopups
gearboxes have been known to shear the front off with heavy use
lack of motorcage - Prone to occasionally locking the anti reversal latch on low battery operation
If you are into hicaps, the mags are small... 300 rounds vs ak 600



Overall, the two have thier share of pros and cons. I tried to keep that as impatial as possible to advise you without bias. Personally? I own both... I like both equally. The 'lol ak suxor' and 'm4 is lego gun of capitalist' crap from both camps is annoying. I use m4s for american loadouts, AKs for russian ones... Both are good dependant on brand, and both can be bad. Overall... Its down to your personal choice. At this FPS limit, both operate and perform pretty much identically. So which do YOU like more?

Spooky-Vinny

Get the Type 56
chinese ftw!!! LOL
xXx

Firekitten

Spooky-Vinny wrote: »

Get the Type 56
chinese ftw!!! LOL
xXx

I prefer the numbr 58... Chicken Chow Mein

Spooky-Vinny

Firekitten wrote: »

I prefer the numbr 58... Chicken Chow Mein

racist
only joken
58... I think thats the chicken green peppers and black bean sauce in my dad's takeaway. i should know but i dont for somereasan lol
xXx

johnnytiitlips

that xXx thing is really gay:(


every time i see it i forget your NOT female for a second

Firekitten

A, thats really rude, and b, he might be refering to porn, or the manly movie XXX? no?

Dont be such a git

johnnytiitlips

he's not referring to porn,or to vin diesel

*hugs and kisses to all*

johnnytiitlips

as for the being a git remark....

im sure theres a cream for that

Firekitten

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

he's not referring to porn,or to vin diesel

*hugs and kisses to all*

Who sounds gay now?

:rolleyes:

johnnytiitlips

you must be a midget....

i cant beleive that went over your head

chris20

http://media.photobucket.com/image/ak%20m4%20hybrid/revengeseeker02/SR47_050920_02.jpg

sorted

Leftyflip

Makes me LOL...

Firekitten

chris20 wrote: »

http://media.photobucket.com/image/ak%20m4%20hybrid/revengeseeker02/SR47_050920_02.jpg

sorted

Die in the fires of hell you deamon... Although credit its not that ehobby chopjob... its stil got all the downsides of the m4, with the single downside of the ak... Fail.

johnnytiitlips wrote: »

you must be a midget....

i cant beleive that went over your head

I'm probably taller than you baby Because that went over your head too

Stercus Accidit

The AK47 in airsoft is the type 3 generation, obsolete, TM chose it for god knows what reason and others followed suit.

The most popular real ak is the AKM, the model just after ak47 type 3, get a new cyma full steel akm with laminated furniture, it is THE ak of choice for the old school weapon. It is what you see on tv etc. and most call it ak47, but the AKM is the main one manufactured to this day in many countries with little variation.

The AKSU is a more modern compact model, popular in airsoft, then theres the whole ak74 series, and the latest 100 series, ak104 etc.


M4's are grand but common as muck, hence, I sold mine after two or so games and got a few ak's.

Firekitten

As much as I agree and I understood that Sam, these are philistines... they don't know the finer subtle details of the Kalashnikov.

In airsoft terms, every ak is the same internally pretty much bar mm in the barrel differences.

Puding

chris20 wrote: »

http://media.photobucket.com/image/ak%20m4%20hybrid/revengeseeker02/SR47_050920_02.jpg

sorted

sr47 rather like them myself, keep meaning to make one

chris20

Puding wrote: »

sr47 rather like them myself, keep meaning to make one

wouldnt mind one myself,nice bit of kit

Masada

That looks brilliant., i'll make one when im in one of those stupid moods where i blow loadsa cash on silly things.
Anyone who saw the new Universal soldier film may have noticed they are using something similar as a primary weapon of the US soldiers.

Firekitten

Masada wrote: »

That looks brilliant., i'll make one when im in one of those stupid moods where i blow loadsa cash on silly things.
Anyone who saw the new Universal soldier film may have noticed they are using something similar as a primary weapon of the US soldiers.

You could buy the reciver from HuricanE

Im not sure if they are made anymore... but its deffinately already in existance, just slot the body in and roll. If you can find one on the spares market. Try uk forums, they come up occasionally.

Oddly enough, it was a real weapon design, but dropped becaues it sucked doggies danglers, and they managed to teach us special forces to use an AK instead of needing thier hand held by giving them thier m4 that took ak mags and rounds.

Masada

I know i cam get the parts, their just really expensive, for what they are.

Puding

the full kits are still about not to hard to get hold but just as masda said expensive, only meant to have been 12 made in real life for use in tora bora until they realised that us forces could just use an akm instead

chris20

i think i seen some of the kits going on ebay

Spooky-Vinny

I don't mean to come back to this stupid lil topic about my signature (xXx)
but no... i am not refering to porn manly things or Vin Diesel
I am simply giving everyone abit of love as there is not enough around i believe. so i guess you could call them hugs and kisses if you want.
hugs and kisses for the girls and manly hand shake/pat on the back for the men of course!

@johnnytiitlips your just jealous you cant pull it off and that im confusing your sexual oriantations lol

@Firekitten thank you for defending my honour xXx

xXx

sliabh

Firekitten wrote: »

In airsoft terms, every ak is the same internally pretty much bar mm in the barrel differences.

Em, isn't there some problems with mag well differences that mean you have to be careful picking magazines for your AK?

Stercus Accidit

sliabh wrote: »

Em, isn't there some problems with mag well differences that mean you have to be careful picking magazines for your AK?

Only some kalash aks were funny but its easily sorted.

Puding

sliabh wrote: »

Em, isn't there some problems with mag well differences that mean you have to be careful picking magazines for your AK?

the early dobys aks had a slightly longer magazine catch, all you need to do is fill down the catch and all mags will work without issue, the newer models of dboys ak seem to have fixed this problem, its nothing massive and easily fixed

Spooky-Vinny

The story about the SR47 reminds me of the story about the story during the cold war where americans spend thousands on research for a pen that would work in space so they could write...
where the russians simply said "paper... pencil"
Silly americans

everyone like my new signature?
xXx

Fallschirmjager

buy what you like...

sliabh

Spooky-Vinny wrote: »

The story about the SR47 reminds me of the story about the story during the cold war where americans spend thousands on research for a pen that would work in space so they could write...
where the russians simply said "paper... pencil"
Silly americans

*cough* urban legend *cough*
Snopes will set you straight.
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

Now where did the topic go...

Spooky-Vinny

sliabh wrote: »

*cough* urban legend *cough*
Snopes will set you straight.
http://www.snopes.com/business/genius/spacepen.asp

Sounds like you have a bad cough there dude, better go check it out before you DIE!!!

i stand proven wrong... thanks for ruining my buzz

xXx

sliabh

Spooky-Vinny wrote: »

Sounds like you have a bad cough there dude, better go check it out before you DIE!!!

i stand proven wrong... thanks for ruining my buzz

xXx

It is a great story, and I used tell it a lot before I learned the truth. Still Snopes is great for tht sort of thing. And for seeing the ones that are true!

Spooky-Vinny

sliabh wrote: »

It is a great story, and I used tell it a lot before I learned the truth. Still Snopes is great for tht sort of thing. And for seeing the ones that are true!

you'v ruined my life...

lol joke obv

xXx

ZeroSignal

I'll try to be a little constructive to this thread and start by giving a few pointers:

1. Go into your nearest Airsoft shop and pick up every replica they have. I mean EVERY ONE. Make a note of which ones you thought were the most comfortable.
2. Try out the mags. Do they go in okay? Would you be happy to carry 8 of the bad boys or would you just go with a few high-caps? Think capacity too (the aforementioned 600rd AK/300rd M4 mag). Also think about batteries and after-market parts.
3. Do you want to strap crap to your replica? Do you NEED a front vertical handguard, laser sight, PEQ box, M203, master-key, kitchen sink, etc.? (N.B. You can get most of these as AK versions so don't fret if you want any of them. Just get a MTK-83 for mounting western optics or a Kobra red dot, PS0-1 scope. Or swap out the handguards for RIS rails or Romanian vertical handguards).
4. If you're on a team, what will the other lads and lasses be using? You might have to use their mags in an emergency (this probably isn't that important but worth keeping in mind).
5. What do you like the look of? I happen to think AK-74s are the coolest things since... well, anything! (Unfortunately I'm between AEGs at the moment )
6. Do you want long or short replicas? For instance, an M4 is shorter than most AKs, but you can get an AK-105 if you like Carbine length replicas, AK-74 for M16 length or AKS-74Us for M4CQB/MP5 length.

It's not much but I hope it helps.

EDIT:
AK-74M (Awesomesauce, in my opinion):
http://www.brotherprice.com/ebphoto/Dboys%20AK74M%20AEG%20with%20folding%20stock%20RK05%201.jpg

AK-105:
http://img.redwolfairsoft.com/upload/product/img/VFC-AK105_L.jpg

(Modernised) AKS-74U:
http://www.inokatsu.com/mmc/images/products/u.jpg

sean corcoran

i have both and in my opinion the ak 47 is the better gun. the m4 breaks too easily and has more performance issues

ZeroSignal

sean corcoran wrote: »

i have both and in my opinion the ak 47 is the better gun. the m4 breaks too easily and has more performance issues

That's not exactly helpful. I'm sure a plastic JG AK will be more likely to explode than a G&G M4 so that's not exactly fair.

I prefer AKs and I think M4s are boring but better...?

Masada

How does a gun become boring though?

I know a load of other things have been mentioned as reasons why AK fans dislike the Armalite, but boring? Its not a Nintendo DS....

Puding

hear the m4 being described as boring before lots of times when 4 out of 5 people on a site have one it does become that way, defiantly saturation point :P same has i;ve heard the ak being described as plain and boring at time, just down to individuals view

ZeroSignal

Masada wrote: »

How does a gun become boring though?

I know a load of other things have been mentioned as reasons why AK fans dislike the Armalite, but boring? Its not a Nintendo DS....

Gah.. Because I think that they look boring. They are ubiquitous. It's an opinion and it's just as valid as yours (i.e., not). Let's not turn this into a "them/us" thing. It leads nowhere.