Meteor Awards

PaulBrewer

http://meteormusicawards.meteor.ie/competitions/complist/#band

I was just looking at the list there - did any of those bands record with you ?
There are quite a few recorded in Joe Egan's Nutshed Studio.

I wonder where all the rest were done ?

Bluebirdstudios

Dave Morrisey - Bring out the light

Recorded at Bluebird Studios by myself

- Declan

Hope he does well he is one of the hardest working musicians I know.

maccored

ive recorded some stuff for one band on there, but not the one they're using.

I must be getting old and cynical as everytime I look at the way that whole thing has been done ...... (next new band, public vote etc etc - all really X Factor'd up) ...... it just looks like a fantastic PR campaign by meteor to get people to pull in free traffic and advertise Meteor / Meteor Awards. Theyve a win win on their hands. Basically they should have just took in the applications and then chose 5. the whole public voting idea - in my opinion only now mind you - wont count for anything. Its a very sneaky bit of PR.

I hope I am just old and cynical.

i57dwun4yb1pt8

LOL

http://meteormusicawards.meteor.ie/competitions/voting/17608/

Aridstarling

Is it totally open for bands to enter and be voted on? Like, is there no selection process before public vote? Because, looking at the various standards of the bands that I recognise from the list, it all varies wildly. Makes it very hard to take seriously.

Rockshamrover

Aridstarling wrote: »

Is it totally open for bands to enter and be voted on? Like, is there no selection process before public vote? Because, looking at the various standards of the bands that I recognise from the list, it all varies wildly. Makes it very hard to take seriously.

I've just been looking through at some of the entries. Some of them have done the bare minimum and less even, as in no link to a song.

Others have obviously spent an awful lot of money on getting their song and videos together.

Best vid so far in my opinion is The Chapters videotapes. It's very well made. I have no connection with these guys.

Zombie Cops are also worth a look.

PaulBrewer

Very interesting article in today's Sunday Times Culture supplement about the Meteors.

fitz

We entered. The frustrating thing is the lack of transparency. No visibility of the voting results, so no-one knows who made the top ten. If you were cynical, you'd probably say that was deliberate, so they can pick the five nominees regardless of voting results.

What has amused me is the peole saying they've been shortlisted for a Meteor award, as if they'd been picked out, and hadn't just put themselves forward like everyone else...

tweeky

All reminds me a bit of Smash Hits magazine polls of the 80's that once voted John Taylor from Duran Duran "The Best Bass Player in the world Ever"
The band with the most Facebook friends will win.

PaulBrewer

fitz wrote: »

We entered. The frustrating thing is the lack of transparency. No visibility of the voting results, so no-one knows who made the top ten. If you were cynical, you'd probably say that was deliberate, so they can pick the five nominees regardless of voting results.

What has amused me is the peole saying they've been shortlisted for a Meteor award, as if they'd been picked out, and hadn't just put themselves forward like everyone else...

Which is why I think the whole 'competition' thing in Music is a load of ole cock ...

PaulBrewer

tweeky wrote: »

All reminds me a bit of Smash Hits magazine polls of the 80's that once voted John Taylor from Duran Duran "The Best Bass Player in the world Ever"
The band with the most Facebook friends will win.

Aye, I remember the same sort of thing with Bruce and Rick from The Jam winning their respective categories .....

Shouldn't John Taylor from Duran Duran have won "The Best LOOKING Bass Player in the world Ever" .... he's a Roide so he is ...

i57dwun4yb1pt8

is there any truth to the rumour that most of Durans nicer bass lines were actually played by Bernard Edwards of Chic ?

it seems to be still out there .

PaulBrewer

Dunno - they were always fans of Chic and Nile Rodgers produced some Duran.

I saw them on TV a week or two ago playing the old stuff live and he seems handy enough I'd have said.

tweeky

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Dunno - they were always fans of Chic and Nile Rodgers produced some Duran.

I saw them on TV a week or two ago playing the old stuff live and he seems handy enough I'd have said.

A topic touched on in Guy Pratt's book."My Bass and Other Animals"

i57dwun4yb1pt8

tweeky wrote: »

A topic touched on in Guy Pratt's book."My Bass and Other Animals"

is it ?

I just got that book yesterday !
seen his comedy act once - hes pretty funny , and a great bass player.

also got the making of 'the dark side of the moon' which is looking really good

PaulBrewer

tweeky wrote: »

A topic touched on in Guy Pratt's book."My Bass and Other Animals"

Care to elaborate ?

odonopenmic

I see that Meteor, in their wisdom, have thought the public will be smart enough to judge on merit:

"We request when you are listening and viewing the songs, judge each entry on composition, lyrics, melody and originality." (from the info page)

Yep, cos I see that happening......

We're the same as some of ye - got 'long'listed with everyone else. I'd really hoped that we would at least get to see the top 10. Top 5 will be announced tomorrow when Round 2 opens but like some of ye, I agree the lack of transparency opens whole thing up to cherry-picking and favouritism. I dunno.... maybe the usual suspects always crop up cos they are genuinely on top? Oh it grates....:rolleyes:

maccored

anyone fancy second guessing the 5? I'd say (in no order of preference):

Yes Cadets
The Minutes
The Hot Sprockets
The Brothers Movement
The Brad Pitt Light Orchestra

or else I just choose a lot of bands with 'the' in the title, i dont know ....

PaulBrewer

I think I'll put my New Band 'Chutney Kiosk' in for it next year ...

I'm the sole band member and sing beautifully is a gravelly tuneless voice.
I also have a slight lisp.

I'm middle aged, overweight and have a bald spot.

Will yez Vote for me in a 'Rage agin da Machine' Christmas No.1 kind of way ?:o

odonopenmic

maccored wrote: »

anyone fancy second guessing the 5? I'd say (in no order of preference):

Yes Cadets
The Minutes
The Hot Sprockets
The Brothers Movement
The Brad Pitt Light Orchestra

or else I just choose a lot of bands with 'the' in the title, i dont know ....

I'd say you could be onto something. They're all good bands with a bit of hype behind them.

But the solo artists will be in there too:
Colm Lynch
Fiona Meleady
Hitman Lord

I'd also say we could see
Bipolar Empire
Cowboy X
Floyd Soul and the Wolf
Mighty Atomics
Sweet Jane
The Spikes
Walter Mitty and the Realists

maccored

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I think I'll put my New Band 'Chutney Kiosk' in for it next year ...

I'm the sole band member and sing beautifully is a gravelly tuneless voice.
I also have a slight lisp.

I'm middle aged, overweight and have a bald spot.

Will yez Vote for me in a 'Rage agin da Machine' Christmas No.1 kind of way ?:o

Hang on just one minute - I'm middle aged, overweight and have a bald spot ......

Seziertisch

Theoretically you could be complete **** but if your voting campaign was good enough you would win. I really don't see that happening, the winner being announced on the night and then them sucking balls so badly as for it to reflect badly on Meteor/the competition

maccored

thats why Im assuming they already selected the 5 bands and then run the voting competition

odonopenmic

Seziertisch wrote: »

Theoretically you could be complete **** but if your voting campaign was good enough you would win. I really don't see that happening, the winner being announced on the night and then them sucking balls so badly as for it to reflect badly on Meteor/the competition

I wouldn't say the 'panel of industry experts' would let that happen. Perhaps might also be the reason that there is no transparency in the voting?

You're right though. I've been sayin it the whole time... you're either promising or you aren't so stop the charade and just nominate fair and square (warts and all ) as they would in another category.

PaulBrewer

Ha ! One of the bands I produced made the Top 5 -

Isn't it Ironic, don'tcha think ....:o

odonopenmic

PaulBrewer wrote: »

Ha ! One of the bands I produced made the Top 5 -

Isn't it Ironic, don'tcha think ....:o

Oooooh! Have you seen the list? I'm curious

PaulBrewer

odonopenmic wrote: »

Oooooh! Have you seen the list? I'm curious

No - just heard from the band - News is due today though.

odonopenmic

PaulBrewer wrote: »

No - just heard from the band - News is due today though.

Aye, it'll be interesting. Fair play to you, BTW, that's great that the stuff you were working on was selected

fitz

We got nominated.
Full list on the site now...

PaulBrewer

I should clarify I had nothing to do with that Ever 27 track though !

How did the process work Fitz ?

Did you know how the voting process worked ? i.e. do you know numbers ?

fitz

Basically, the top ten acts got put forward to the panel. I got a call this morning telling me that we'd been selected by that panel. I didn't know we'd made the shortlist until then.

PaulBrewer

I still think the whole thing is a load of arse - but Best of Luck !

fitz

Thanks for the kind words Paul.

old gregg

PaulBrewer wrote: »

I still think the whole thing is a load of arse - but Best of Luck !

Paul needs to go home, put on some Janis Ian and soak in a nice warm, fragrant bubble bath to help bring back some of that lost emotional sensitivity

PaulBrewer

old gregg wrote: »

Paul needs to go home, put on some Janis Ian and soak in a nice warm, fragrant bubble bath to help bring back some of that lost emotional sensitivity

It's arse no matter how much Radox is in the bath !


However I do, of course, acknowledge that others are welcome to differing views .

old gregg

PaulBrewer wrote: »

It's arse no matter how much Radox is in the bath !

ZV Yoda

Hey Fitz... don't mind Victor "Brewer" Meldrew... for me, "Spinning Top" was the best single (and video) by an Irish newcomer, so it gets my vote. Also, one of the hest Oxegen gigs of 2009, so Susis Soho gets my vote. Who needs awards anyway?

fitz

No-one needs 'em, but that doesn't mean it ain't nice to get one, or be put forward for one.

PaulBrewer

ZV Yoda wrote: »

Who needs awards anyway?

That's my point exactly !

woodsdenis

fitz wrote: »

No-one needs 'em, but that doesn't mean it ain't nice to get one, or be put forward for one.

Well done and best of luck.

Rockshamrover

Congrats Fitz, that must have put a big smile on your face. Well done.

Anyone else we know (virtually) in the top ten?

It's actually top five per the Meteor site.

PaulBrewer

Brian Boyd says it so much better than I in today's Irish Times The Ticket ....

fitz

Made some good points about the industry, but made connections between those points that I don't think stand up.

Labels don't always run these awards or make up the entire selection/judging panel, nor do they necessarily have any connection with some of the nominees, so saying they're pushing the new artists for awards is just faulty logic. And an act not having an album finished prior to getting an award, particularly in a "new act" category, is largely irrelevant. They get nominated/win and award, with album recording sessions timetabled for the following month, an a release schedule planned out...why shouldn't the receive recognition ahead of someone who's also new but has their album done?

This isn't the problem with labels.
The problem with labels is that they have no idea about how to use the internet to make money. They're sticking to traditional revenue streams and see the internet only as a marketting tool on the positive side, or a cause of lost revenue due to file sharing, etc.

Been saying it for ages...if they labels had focused the last ten years on how to make money through web community building and connecting with people, instead of spending time, money and effort coming up with ways to stop file sharing, they wouldn't be in the mess they're in now.

Labels could be making money today out of providing digital distribution and marketing services to artists. Give the artists a platform and infrastructure to sell direct, and charge them for how many of the labels services they consume to do so. If they did something like this, they only have to built the service provision infrastructure once, then it's money for old rope. They've a solid revenue stream, and they've a platform that then automatically does their A&R for them, with successful acts being likely candidates for investment/signing.

This is just one idea of an approach they could have taken. I'm sure plenty of smarter people than me have better ideas. I think I'd look at the lack of inovation in these areas by the labels as a cause for their problems before I'd try to make a connection between their financial woes and their involvement with awards shows.

BumbleB

The girl singer in the band who won the most promising new act is a qualified sound engineer and a great singer.I have a friend who recorded a demo of her a few years ago.