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eircom now offering up to 24mbits to home users

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,321 ✭✭✭IrishTonyO




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Yep Vodafone are doing it too alright
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055810366


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    ADSL2 is ( oddly ) only available from half of all eircom exchanges and they are either small exchanges or very large ones. If you are on an average exchange you can only get Max 8mbits.

    These are the exchanges where you CANNOT get 24mbits

    BALLON BLN Carlow
    BORRIS BRS Carlow
    MUINE BHEAG (Bagenalstown) MBG Carlow
    RATHVILLY RVY Carlow
    TULLOW TLW Carlow
    ARVA AVA Cavan
    BAILIEBORO BBO Cavan
    BALLINAGH BGH Cavan
    BALLYCONNELL BCL Cavan
    BALLYHAISE BHE Cavan
    BALLYJAMESDUFF BJD Cavan
    BELTURBET BUT Cavan
    BLACKLION BKN Cavan
    COOTEHILL CTL Cavan
    KILLESHANDRA KSA Cavan
    KINGSCOURT KGT Cavan
    MULLAGH MLH Cavan
    SHERCOCK SCK Cavan
    STRADONE STD Cavan
    VIRGINIA VGA Cavan
    COROFIN CFN Clare
    CRATLOE CTE Clare
    ENNISTYMON ETN Clare
    KILLALOE KLO Clare
    KILRUSH KRH Clare
    KINEILTY CROSS Cabinet KTX Clare
    LAHINCH LNH Clare
    LISDOONVARNA LAV Clare
    MULLAGH MLA Clare
    NEWMARKET-ON-FERGUS NOF Clare
    SCARRIFF SCF Clare
    SIXMILEBRIDGE SBE Clare
    TIERMACLANE TCN Clare
    AHERLA AHA Cork
    BALLINCOLLIG BNC Cork
    BALLINGEARY BLY Cork
    BALLINHASSIG BHS Cork
    BALLINSPITTLE BSP Cork
    BALLYCLOUGH BCH Cork
    BALLYDEHOB BDB Cork
    BALLYGARVAN BLV Cork
    BALLYMAKEERA BKA Cork
    BANTRY BAY Cork
    BERRINGS BNS Cork
    BLARNEY BAI Cork
    BUTTEVANT BVT Cork
    CARRIGNAVAR CNV Cork
    CARRIGTWOHILL CHT Cork
    CASTLELYONS CLS Cork
    CASTLEMARTYR CMR Cork
    CASTLETOWNBERE CTB Cork
    CLONAKILTY CKY Cork
    CLOYNE CLE Cork
    COACHFORD CFD Cork
    COBH COV Cork
    CORK AIRPORT CKA Cork
    CROOKSTOWN CWN Cork
    CROSSHAVEN CRV Cork
    DONERAILE DON Cork
    DRIMOLEAGUE DLE Cork
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    CASTLEREA CRE Roscommon
    ELPHIN EFN Roscommon
    FRENCHPARK FPK Roscommon
    KNOCKCROGHERY KRY Roscommon
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    ROSCOMMON RCM Roscommon
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    STRANDHILL SHL Sligo
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    CARRICK-ON-SUIR COS Tipperary
    CASHEL CSL Tipperary
    CLOGHEEN CGE Tipperary
    FETHARD FET Tipperary
    HOLYCROSS HCS Tipperary
    KILLENAULE KNL Tipperary
    KILSHEELIN KSN Tipperary
    LITTLETON LTN Tipperary
    ROSCREA RSA Tipperary
    TEMPLEMORE TME Tipperary
    THURLES THS Tipperary
    ARDMORE AME Waterford
    CAPPOQUIN CPN Waterford
    DUNMORE EAST DNR Waterford
    KILCOHAN KIH Waterford
    KILMACTHOMAS KMT Waterford
    KILMEADEN KMN Waterford
    KNOCKBOY KBY Waterford
    LISMORE LME Waterford
    NEWCASTLE NCE Waterford
    PASSAGE EAST PSG Waterford
    PORTLAW PTW Waterford
    RING RNG Waterford
    TALLOW TOW Waterford
    TRAMORE TRR Waterford
    WATERFORD AIRPORT WAP Waterford
    BUTLERSTOWN Cabinet BUN Waterford
    BLIARY BLI Westmeath
    CASTLEPOLLARD CSP Westmeath
    DELVIN DVN Westmeath
    GLASSAN GSN Westmeath
    KILBEGGAN KBN Westmeath
    KILLUCAN KUC Westmeath
    KINNEGAD KGD Westmeath
    MOATE MOT Westmeath
    ROCHFORTBRIDGE RBE Westmeath
    TYRELLSPASS TLP Westmeath
    BALLYCARNEY BCY Wexford
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    BALLYWILLIAM BWM Wexford
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    BUNCLODY BUO Wexford
    CAMOLIN CML Wexford
    CAMPILE CPL Wexford
    CASTLEBRIDGE CSB Wexford
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 515 ✭✭✭GigaByte


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    ADSL2 is ( oddly ) only available from half of all eircom exchanges and they are either small exchanges or very large ones. If you are on an average exchange you can only get Max 8mbits.
    <big list snipped>

    Thats a BIG list! :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    And I'm sure we're now going to get flooded by people wondering why they're not getting 24 meg on their 5km long lines despite signing up for this.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭probe


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Couple of points.
    48:1 contention , yuk !!!

    Quite. This product is being sold to heavy users - people who watch video online. A 48:1 contented set-up would grind to a halt if more than a handful watched video simultaneously.

    Contention ratio is the most important factor in a positive, efficient network surfing experience.

    eircom would be better off moving contention to the core of the network, enabling caching of video files and similar - instead of causing a bottleneck near the consumer end. They could take one stream of the Davos World Economic Forum live video coverage for example, and stream it to whoever went to:

    http://www.livestream.com/worldeconomicforum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,929 ✭✭✭✭ShadowHearth


    whats the point? theyr servise is crap for the last month!!!

    In the evening this bottleneck think happens now, its 0.8mb from 7mbit everyevening...

    i dont care if i will have 24mbit, i wount be able to use it anyway imn the evening, when i come back from wrok and what to relax by pc... :rolleyes:


    they are not sorting theyr old products, and now they dropping a new one with stupid exchange... 1:48... oh come on...


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Sponge Bob, hope you don't mind I just edited your post to make it VERY clear that the list is exchanges you CAN'T get 24MB


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly


    <big list snipped>

    Was that post really necessary?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,572 ✭✭✭✭Mr E


    Why is everyone quoting the really long list? :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,789 ✭✭✭grizzly


    Sorry it's childish :o

    On topic, will this mean a bump in other speeds? 3mb, etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 428 ✭✭ROS123


    grizzly wrote: »
    Sorry it's childish :o

    On topic, will this mean a bump in other speeds? 3mb, etc.

    445 exchanges


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Big lists snipped. Seriously people, there's no need to quote that.

    I very much doubt that a lot of people would see any benefit from changing to ADSL2+. See my post here for a brief explanation. I can't see how eircom will auto-switch people over to this. It'll probably be a request option (with new contract and price scheme).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,764 ✭✭✭Valentia


    jor el wrote: »
    Big lists snipped. Seriously people, there's no need to quote that.

    I very much doubt that a lot of people would see any benefit from changing to ADSL2+. See my post here for a brief explanation. I can't see how eircom will auto-switch people over to this. It'll probably be a request option (with new contract and price scheme).

    I put in my attenuation of 26 and it said I should be able to get 16 Mb. Up from 6 so it looks like it would be well worth it. I'd imagine an attenuation of 26 is not too rare in towns, about 2k.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    jor el wrote: »
    I very much doubt that a lot of people would see any benefit from changing to ADSL2+. See my post here for a brief explanation. I can't see how eircom will auto-switch people over to this. It'll probably be a request option (with new contract and price scheme).

    It is a new product at a new price and a MINIMUM 12 month contract ......not a speed bump.

    The bundles start at €70 a month and the standalone is €48 a month.

    Note that Bundles and Standalone DSL now come with minimum contracts of 12 months for BOTH.

    However eircom are also offering free connection and 10 months free line rental if your line was inactive on or before the 20th of May 2009.

    You may change provider but the 10 months free line rental requires that you stay with eircom for the each of the 10 months as it is a month by month dsicount
    Customers moving their Calls or Calls and Line Rental between telecommunications providers will lose their discount.

    Thankfully there is no MINIMUM connection period in this particular "Trial Line " package just no discount for you if you leg it , see :D
    1 The eircom Trial Line Promotion offers the above promotional discounts to eligible Residential PSTN lines between the dates shown above.
    2 This promotion relates to PSTN lines, which are inactive on the eircom network (in situ or pre-cabled) and can be electronically enabled. To be eligible for this promotion, a lin
    must be inactive from 12 months on the last day of the promotion, shown above. This promotion only applies to premises where there is no active line already in place.
    3 eircom will retain a list of all eligible lines and retains the final judgement on whether a premises is eligible/ineligible for the promotion.
    4 If a line availing of the promotion is ceased at any time during the 10-month promotion, the discount is foregone for the remainder of the promotion.
    5 If a customer moves address during the promotional period, the discount is foregone for the remainder of the promotional period. However, if the customer is moving to an
    eligible address where there is still an active promotion, they may qualify for a new 10-month promotion.
    6 eircom reserves the right to withdraw this offer by giving relevant notice in accordance with normal requirements.
    7 Usage of eircom PSTN is deemed to be acceptance of the eircom General Terms and Conditions of Telephone Service.
    8 Customers upgrading from PSTN to ISDN will lose their discount.
    9 Customers moving their Calls or Calls and Line Rental between telecommunications providers will lose their discount.
    10 Customers may avail of one Trial Line promotion per account.
    11 The Vulnerable User Scheme discount package is not available to Trial Line customers for the period that the customer is availing of the Trial Line Promotion.
    12 Customers availing of the Trial Line promotion may also be eligible to receive the DFSA (Department of Social and Family Affairs) Telephone Allowance.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    My line stats:

    Upstream Downstream
    CurrRate(kbps) 672 7616
    MaxRate(kbps) 1228 11200
    NoiseMargin(dB) 13.0 11.9
    Attenuation(dB) 28.0 15.0
    Power(dBm) 5.5 12.3


    I ordered the 24MB, but Vodafone are telling me i'll get 10.24MB???


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    My line stats:

    Upstream Downstream
    CurrRate(kbps) 672 7616
    MaxRate(kbps) 1228 11200
    NoiseMargin(dB) 13.0 11.9
    Attenuation(dB) 28.0 15.0
    Power(dBm) 5.5 12.3


    I ordered the 24MB, but Vodafone are telling me i'll get 10.24MB???

    With an attenuation of 15dB down, you'll get in the region of 22 megs or so, noise and SNR not withstanding. It's possible your exchange is one of the non-upgraded ones listed above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Upstream Downstream
    CurrRate(kbps) 672 7616
    MaxRate(kbps) 1228 11200

    Max downstream is rated as 11.2Mbps, which would suggest their quote of 10.24Mbps is fairly accurate. Could be other line issues, or an internal problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    probe wrote: »
    Contention ratio is the most important factor in a positive, efficient network surfing experience.
    [/URL]

    I think the type of neighbors you have is critical too.

    I am out in the countryside about 10 miles from city center and am surrounded by my relatives and people who barely ever use their internet connection.

    Needless to say my 7mb connection never drops below its max ever.

    We are on that upgraded list too.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Richard Dower


    Spear wrote: »
    With an attenuation of 15dB down, you'll get in the region of 22 megs or so, noise and SNR not withstanding. It's possible your exchange is one of the non-upgraded ones listed above.

    Based on that website, yes 22MB....but as Jorel said, Voda quote me a 10.24, and the router says 11.2

    I don't have any Eircom alarm, no DSL splitter used, direct connect to the phone box.


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Based on that website, yes 22MB....but as Jorel said, Voda quote me a 10.24, and the router says 11.2

    I don't have any Eircom alarm, no DSL splitter used, direct connect to the phone box.

    There may be other reasons for Vodafone saying that, but only they can answer that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    Why didn't they tell me that 2 weeks ago.

    I switched from them to UTV's 8mb .8 up. 12:1

    Suppose thats better than 48:1

    They told me 24mb is available to Business only. So i tried switching to Business. But got nowhere with that.

    Now if i hadn't switched id have 24mb.

    My stats

    Att
    down 9
    Up 6
    Snr
    down 33
    up 34


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    Calebmcd wrote: »
    My stats

    Att
    down 9
    Up 6
    Snr
    down 33
    up 34

    I would be very surprised if you get anywhere near 8Mbos with that line. Do you know what speed you're actually getting from your line?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,055 ✭✭✭probe


    I think the type of neighbors you have is critical too.

    I am out in the countryside about 10 miles from city center and am surrounded by my relatives and people who barely ever use their internet connection.

    Needless to say my 7mb connection never drops below its max ever.

    We are on that upgraded list too.

    But that is contention! There are very few people competing for the bandwidth in your neck of the woods. Therefore your real contention ratio is low.

    Contention has less of an impact on download speed, compared with the speed that a page loads. It is far more important to me that a page loads instantly. Otherwise the internet is a waste of time. Even on simple tasks like airline reservations or reading a newspaper quickly. Especially if someone is on the phone asking you for something and you need to look it up quickly...

    If I am downloading a file, I can go away and have a cup of coffee or whatever if it is slow.

    Contention is the # 1 issue.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    The #2 issue is that the Netopia Modems cannot handle Annex M speeds without overheating it seems ....although I think the Home 24mbit package is not an Annex M profile.

    Lots of people who upgrade will have to buy a decent router or hassle eircom for the Zyxels they also supply.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭John2009


    Hey guys here are our stats to the family Eircon line, could any of you give me a rough estimate of potential max speeds that the line can handle?

    Line State Up Modulation DMT Data Path Interleave
    Downstream Upstream Max Allowed Speed (kbps) 7168 384 SN Margin (dB) 14.00 14.00 Line Attenuation (dB) 16.50 10.00 CRC Errors 0 4

    Just a note also that our line here is absolutely flawless with reliability and has only been down maybe twice in 4 years through network upgrades on Eircons side. I'm on it now wireless and i've done some extensive speedtests last year and i can get guaranteed over 6MB 24/7 on my laptop always wireless and always about 720KB/sec download speed from Rapidshare Premium.

    Thanks.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Computer Says ( here) pls ask Computer not us :p

    20mbits down. Your wireless may not do that in a large house...do note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    jor el wrote: »
    I would be very surprised if you get anywhere near 8Mbos with that line. Do you know what speed you're actually getting from your line?

    Upstream Downstream
    CurrRate(kbps) 800 8128

    Attenuation(dB) 6.0 9.0
    NoiseMargin(dB) 34.0 33.0

    Waiting on password from UTV. But i sync @ 8mb.

    I thought they were good stats?:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 788 ✭✭✭John2009


    Jeez a reliable 20MB sounds sweet, we live in a bungalow so we say my laptop would be at a max distance of about 20ft from the Eircon modem in our living room and it would just be an internal block wall separating them.

    I might think about this, what is Eircons cooling off period duration 14 or 21 days?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭the_law


    Calebmcd wrote: »
    Upstream Downstream
    CurrRate(kbps) 800 8128

    Attenuation(dB) 6.0 9.0
    NoiseMargin(dB) 34.0 33.0

    Waiting on password from UTV. But i sync @ 8mb.

    I thought they were good stats?:confused:

    Calebmcd, they're good stats, you should get full speed with them.

    Low attenuation is good, high SNR is good - you have both. I think jor_el might have misread one as the other... with 34db attenuation you'd only get 12Mbit or so.


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    the_law wrote: »
    Calebmcd, they're good stats, you should get full speed with them.

    Low attenuation is good, high SNR is good - you have both. I think jor_el might have misread one as the other... with 34db attenuation you'd only get 12Mbit or so.

    I misread them at first too - you must living in the exchange:)


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    John2009 wrote: »
    I might think about this, what is Eircons cooling off period duration 14 or 21 days?

    Cooling off period is normally 7 days


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    Does anyone know if you can keep the low ping profiles with the adsl2+ upgrade? I know at work here on adsl2+ there is no option for low / no interleaving.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    the_law wrote: »
    I think jor_el might have misread one as the other.

    Yes, got it all backwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    dub45 wrote: »
    I misread them at first too - you must living in the exchange:)

    Yep, its nice an cosy in here. :p
    Just had a disaster, my mother(gave her a key) decided to rearrange my sitting room. And dropped my Dell 2408. The screen is destroyed. :(


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 12,450 Mod ✭✭✭✭dub45


    Calebmcd wrote: »
    Yep, its nice an cosy in here. :p
    Just had a disaster, my mother(gave her a key) decided to rearrange my sitting room. And dropped my Dell 2408. The screen is destroyed. :(

    How bad are the injuries to your mother?:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭assasins creed


    Downstream Upstream
    SN Margin (dB) 21.90 14.00


    Line Attenuation (dB) 33.50 20.00

    any ideas what kind of speed i would get with these stats regarding the new 24 meg speeds


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭anoble66


    somewhere between 11-13MB




    Downstream Upstream
    SN Margin (dB) 21.90 14.00


    Line Attenuation (dB) 33.50 20.00

    any ideas what kind of speed i would get with these stats regarding the new 24 meg speeds


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,074 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    This is useless as most of us are on ADSL1 exchanges:(

    any plans on Eircom to upgrade that huge list of exchanges not on ADSL2+?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭anoble66


    I dont get it, was on to Vodafone who tested my line for the 24mb and said the max I could get was 15.36 which I would be happy with....I then call customer care and they would not process the order saying my line is only capable of 8124 which is what I am on.

    So how can a line test for 15Mb and not be on a ADSL2 exchange??


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    anoble66 wrote: »

    So how can a line test for 15Mb and not be on a ADSL2 exchange??

    It is a standard test irrespective.

    Is your exchange on THIS list at the beginning of the thread ??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,096 ✭✭✭anoble66


    yeah i am on the Killaloe exchange which is not ADSL2+ enabled....but I have been told once again this evening by the LLU programme manager that my line is fine for 15mb so.....who knows! Will see what tomorrow brings...I am still expecting to be told at some point "errr, actually no its not possible"

    My only hope is that maybe VF have their own equipment installed in my exchange - but then I just dont see why they would in a small town..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭maninaskirt


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    It is a standard test irrespective.

    Is your exchange on THIS list at the beginning of the thread ??

    Hi, my exchange is not on that list, when I call eircom they tell me my line will only support 7mb, I currently have the 7.6 from UTV but was hoping to get this package....I'm confused as the eircom girl told me to get the 24mb my line would have to have more than 11mb on adsl, I thought 7.6 was the max.....can anyone explain please?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    They may not pass people below a cutoff point initially for fear of bad PR. IE 11mbits minimum or else you are dropped to 7.6.

    Imagine the muppets howling on boards that they could only get 10mbits :D

    This is eircoms first 'up to package' nobody will ever get the full 24 and very few over 20.

    Up to now they matched the package / line and generally delivered the full package.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 246 ✭✭maninaskirt


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    They may not pass people below a cutoff point initially for fear of bad PR. IE 11mbits minimum or else you are dropped to 7.6.

    Imagine the muppets howling on boards that they could only get 10mbits :D

    This is eircoms first 'up to package' nobody will ever get the full 24 and very few over 20.

    Up to now they matched the package / line and generally delivered the full package.

    Thanks, seem simple now! DOH! Your are correct though about complaining about not getting 20+mb....it would make nice reading though :D. I think i was niave though in thinking this would mean more speed though, just seen upgrade and hoped I could avail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭Praetorian


    697824881.png

    Upgraded about 2 hours ago in work, & I just got home and modem is showing a 15 m/bit connection (15357/765 (kbps). Quick upgrade work from Eircom, they said upto 48 hours, but I guess that's just to cover themselves.

    Sponge Bob is 100% correct. VERY few will see over 20 m/bit. At work, I can see the exchange across the road, and we can only get around 19400x 1024 sync speed.



    720p video streaming possible from apple.com on 15m/bit, sadly only my work 19 m/bit connection can manage 1080p streaming. 1.64 meg per second download off heanet. Happy enough really :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 365 ✭✭Calebmcd


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    They may not pass people below a cutoff point initially for fear of bad PR. IE 11mbits minimum or else you are dropped to 7.6.

    Imagine the muppets howling on boards that they could only get 10mbits :D

    This is eircoms first 'up to package' nobody will ever get the full 24 and very few over 20.

    Up to now they matched the package / line and generally delivered the full package.

    I'm one of the few that could get 20mb Max(Which is 18mb speed wise):rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66 ✭✭strongman


    @ Praetorian
    Did you get a in new modem. I was on to Eircom today about upgrade. She told me to ring back on Monday that they have no modems at the moment.


  • Posts: 7,320 Talon Rancid Sprint


    Just checked my stats on jor el's post and it seems I can get 17mb. The only worry is the contention ratio. Maybe a silly question but is there any way I can find out (without asking) if there are any of Eircom broadband customers nearby? The only other signal my wireless found was something called "Sitecom" :confused:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Sitecom is a ssrious wifi router often used for large houses with hollow slab floors or AV rigs or both , any near you ??


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