There be none of that Jazz in here boyo!!!

Bonito

Guten Tag lads

Was listenin' in to the Adrian Kennedy phone show last night when I disgruntled chap rang in. (wait's for half of ppl reading to leave thread :P)

Anywho he was a bit fond of speaking the aul gaeilge. Was out in a club with some friends who also speak fluently. Chatting away with each other in Irish when a bouncer approaches and says "what are speakin that shíte for". To which the chap replied "You mean our national language? Which is also recognised by the EU? I have every right to speak it where and when I want.

The bouncer wasn't a bit pleased about this and starting arguing saying "It's a dead piece of shíte of a language can ya not speak english, no?" To this the chap replied "I enjoy speaking Irish and I have every right to. I don't see you approaching any of the polish or chinese people who attend the club because they're speaking their national language so why have you singled me and my friend out"

The chap claimed he stayed calm the whole time while talking to the bouncer and by the impression I got from him over the phone he wouldn't say boo to a ghost so I believed it.

Eventually the bouncer chucked the two chaps out. For speaking Irish. Who the Fúck does he think he is!!!

Anybody else think he was nothing but a stupid, narky & ignorant fúck and thought he'd abuse his power just because he can, or is it just me being outraged by something like this?

AnonoBoy

I bet that didn't happen the way he told it.

Choke

People who speak Irish in a Dublin nightclub should be shot on general principles.

biko

Wouldn't happen in Galway.

funk-you

AnonoBoy wrote: »

I bet that didn't happen the way he told it.

I bet that just didn't happen.

-Funk

Danbo!

Bonito wrote: »

Anybody else think he was nothing but a stupid, narky & ignorant fúck and thought he'd abuse his power just because he can, or is it just me being outraged by something like this?

No, because it probably didnt happen. Hate listening to that one sided ****e.

"Howiya Adrianttt, me and me burd are aftar gettin thrung ourra a club cos I was wearin black runnarts, and now deh daarman's suein me far assault. I didnt even do nothin, didden i not?"

stovelid

The apparent culchieness of that thread title hurts my eyes.

Bonito

Maybe not exactly like that but either way the bouncer had no right to tell him he can't speak Irish in the club. Don't think it happened in Dublin. I think he mentioned what part of Ireland but can't recall it. Long and short the bouncer has no right chuckin someone out just because they're speaking in their native tongue.

BluesBerry

He probably said phog mo hoine to the bouncer which landed him outside the club

AnonoBoy

funk-you wrote: »

I bet that just didn't happen.

-Funk

Good point. They do have a stock group of 'complainers' that they enlist to come on with fictious problems or complaints to kick start those shows alright.

stovelid

Is there anything more detestable on the radio than AK, and the baboons that ring in?

I'd rather superglue my car radio dial to the Gerry Ryan show than listen to more than a few minutes of it.

Bonito

The caller was very well spoken and educated. Not some twat battering a bouncer when they get thrown out.

dsmythy

Choke wrote: »

People who speak Irish in a Dublin nightclub should be shot on general principles.

Why?

dsmythy

Bonito wrote: »

The caller was very well spoken and educated. Not some twat battering a bouncer when they get thrown out.

So i guess his opinion is more important then? I didn't realise educated well spoken people never caused problems while out drinking!

AnonoBoy

Bonito wrote: »

The caller was very well spoken and educated

Well spoken doesn't always = educated.

And an inner city Dublin accent doesn't always = uneducated.

Just so you know.

meditraitor

"It's a dead piece of shíte of a language can ya not speak english, no?"

I knew the day would come when I would agree with a bouncer........:D

stovelid

Bonito wrote: »

The caller was very well spoken and educated. Not some twat battering a bouncer when they get thrown out.

If they're ringing in to AK, they're baboons deep down inside.

Bonito

dsmythy wrote: »

Why?

Exactly, why?

Whether it happened in the way he told it or not the fact is the bouncer approached them because they were speaking Irish. Which IMHO they have every right to speak Irish, regardless where they are.

AnonoBoy

dsmythy wrote: »

So i guess his opinion is more important then? I didn't realise educated well spoken people never caused problems while out drinking!

No they never do. Definitely not outside Anabel's.

stovelid

It sounds very fishy that the bouncer would approach them solely on the basis of speaking Irish.

What's the bets that the bouncer approached them over something unrelated and they insisted on speaking Irish to him for the laugh?

Like you get Irish mongo tourists in places like America who think everyone is hanging on every word of their over-loud, demonstrative pidgin Irish.

Bonito

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Well spoken doesn't always = educated.

And an inner city Dublin accent doesn't always = uneducated.

Just so you know.

I never remotely hinted that well spoken = educated.
Nor did I hint well spoken people don't cause trouble while drinking. (what's to say he was even drinking? I've gone to the club and not had any alcohol) I also didn't say people with an inner city accent aren't well educated.

Sean Quagmire

Have some fuckin pride for christ sake. It's our country's language.

I should have bothered to learn it in school. Heard two people having a conversation in Irish at the gym and I thought it was great.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Bonito wrote: »

I never remotely hinted that well spoken = educated.
Nor did I hint well spoken people don't cause trouble while drinking. (what's to say he was even drinking? I've gone to the club and not had any alcohol) I also didn't say people with an inner city accent aren't well educated.

Then why say it?

stovelid

Sean Quagmire wrote: »

Have some fuckin pride for christ sake. It's our country's language.

I should have bothered to learn it in school.

Why should randomers have to show pride in something you couldn't bother your hole learning?

Bonito

Raven Fierce Robe wrote: »

Then why say it?

I didn't.

brianthebard

Surely everyone over the age of 18 and 3 months knows that you don't talk back to a bouncer bout anything if you want to stay in a club? Not saying the bouncer was right but your man was clearly getting smart with him, considering the op is the cleaned up for radio version to paint himself in a good light I'm sure it was less polite/more adversarial than that.

Bonito

stovelid wrote: »

Why should randomers have to show pride in something you couldn't bother your hole learning?

It doesn't give them the right to single someone out just because they're speaking a language they themselves had the opportunity to learn but just never bothered their hole.

General Zod

I find Adrian Kennedy more enjoyable if you go with the idea that everyone who rings in, and the presenters, are all gigantic trolls just waffling for the reaction.

General Zod

brianthebard wrote: »

Surely everyone over the age of 18 and 3 months knows that you don't talk back to a bouncer bout anything if you want to stay in a club? Not saying the bouncer was right but your man was clearly getting smart with him, considering the op is the cleaned up for radio version to paint himself in a good light I'm sure it was less polite/more adversarial than that.

I'd rather be kicked out and be right than do the whole "croppy, lie down" to a bouncer on a power trip.

Bonito

brianthebard wrote: »

Surely everyone over the age of 18 and 3 months knows that you don't talk back to a bouncer bout anything if you want to stay in a club? Not saying the bouncer was right but your man was clearly getting smart with him, considering the op is the cleaned up for radio version to paint himself in a good light I'm sure it was less polite/more adversarial than that.

Agreed and maybe so. Like yourselves I don't know the in's and out's of the conversation but, seriously, what right does the bouncer have to approach someone and say "why are you speaking that dead piece of shíte of a language"?

m@cc@

Bonito wrote: »

Anybody else think he was nothing but a stupid, narky & ignorant fúck

I actually think this about the caller for engaging in a debate about languages with a bouncer. What did he think he was going to achieve?

stovelid

Bonito wrote: »

It doesn't give them the right to single someone out just because they're speaking a language they themselves had the opportunity to learn but just never bothered their hole.

You don't know that they were singled out. It's a subjective view on their behalf.

I think the most plausible version is that they were approached for something else, and started speaking back in Irish to wind the bouncer up.

It's definitely the only version that would appear to make sense.

Bonito

m@cc@ wrote: »

I actually think this about the caller for engaging in a debate about languages with a bouncer. What did he think he was going to achieve?

Some pigeon english, perhaps?

Jip

Bonito wrote: »

The caller was very well spoken and educated.

So why was he listening to, never mind calling, Adrian Kennedy ?

Bonito

Jip wrote: »

So why was he listening to, never mind calling, Adrian Kennedy ?

So listening to AK = uneducated fool?

brianthebard

Bonito wrote: »

Agreed and maybe so. Like yourselves I don't know the in's and out's of the conversation but, seriously, what right does the bouncer have to approach someone and say "why are you speaking that dead piece of shíte of a language"?

If that's what really happened then yeah we can all see he was on a power trip, but without knowing for sure I'd be pretty sceptical. Surely a bouncer has better things to do than eavesdrop? They must have drawn attention to themselves with more than just their comhrá.

Lol @ General Zod's post. Can't say I disagree, but you don't know what sort of sociopath has got a gig as a bouncer til he's kicking your teeth in. I've a friend who got a serious beating from four or five bouncers because he didn't want to put up with their ****.

Bonito

brianthebard wrote: »

If that's what really happened then yeah we can all see he was on a power trip, but without knowing for sure I'd be pretty sceptical. Surely a bouncer has better things to do than eavesdrop? They must have drawn attention to themselves with more than just their comhrá.

Lol @ General Zod's post. Can't say I disagree, but you don't know what sort of sociopath has got a gig as a bouncer til he's kicking your teeth in. I've a friend who got a serious beating from four or five bouncers because he didn't want to put up with their ****.

Definitely agree. You never know what sort of a background a bouncer has and could be an absolute nut job. I know a couple that were bouncers before the whole licensing came in. They were ex-army and gave some chaps awful beatings and left them on the side of curbs in states over the most stupid of things. Just up on their mighty high horses thinking they can pick on who they want and put the fear of god into anyone so not to mess with them, especially the ones that would really cause trouble for them.

TheGod

Bonito wrote: »

Guten Tag lads

Was listenin' in to the Adrian Kennedy phone show last night when I disgruntled chap rang in. (wait's for half of ppl reading to leave thread :P)

Anywho he was a bit fond of speaking the aul gaeilge. Was out in a club with some friends who also speak fluently. Chatting away with each other in Irish when a bouncer approaches and says "what are speakin that shíte for". To which the chap replied "You mean our national language? Which is also recognised by the EU? I have every right to speak it where and when I want.

The bouncer wasn't a bit pleased about this and starting arguing saying "It's a dead piece of shíte of a language can ya not speak english, no?" To this the chap replied "I enjoy speaking Irish and I have every right to. I don't see you approaching any of the polish or chinese people who attend the club because they're speaking their national language so why have you singled me and my friend out"

The chap claimed he stayed calm the whole time while talking to the bouncer and by the impression I got from him over the phone he wouldn't say boo to a ghost so I believed it.

Eventually the bouncer chucked the two chaps out. For speaking Irish. Who the Fúck does he think he is!!!

Anybody else think he was nothing but a stupid, narky & ignorant fúck and thought he'd abuse his power just because he can, or is it just me being outraged by something like this?

He sounds like another one of those smarmy, condescending gits you see who think they are so educated and sophisticated.

Fair play to the bouncer for standing up to these smug ear sores that occasionally venture into our nightclubs.

Celly Smunt

Bonito wrote: »

So listening to AK = uneducated fool?

pretty much,especially when you use aliases for his name.

Bonito

pmcmahon wrote: »

pretty much,especially when you use aliases for his name.

Talk about painting everyone with the same brush. I happen to listen to AK a lot.

Celly Smunt

Bonito wrote: »

Talk about painting everyone with the same brush. I happen to listen to AK a lot.

ah he's a knob-end


who i have a guitly pleasure of listening to...

Bonito

pmcmahon wrote: »

ah he's a knob-end


who i have a guitly pleasure of listening to...

At least he's not as opinionated as Joe Duffy Forming posse's to try demolish whatever it is he dislikes. AK tends not to be biased on an awful lot of subjects. Mostly he see's it from a middle view rather than his preferred side.

Note I said most the time and not all the time. We can all be opinionated at times.:D

Dave!

Listening to Adrian Kennedy makes my head melt

Worst show ever.

Bonito

Dave! wrote: »

Listening to Adrian Kennedy makes my head melt

Worst show ever.

It's a love hate thing. Some nights I can listen then others I'll switch him off.

peepeep

Bonito wrote: »

So listening to AK = uneducated fool?

Yes.

Bonito

peepeep wrote: »

Yes.

Can you back that statement up? An opinionated "Yes" doesn't justify the statement of "Listening to AK makes you and uneducated fool".

It is, in fact, your sole opinion that someone listening to AK is an uneducated fool.

AnonoBoy

Bonito wrote: »

I never remotely hinted that well spoken = educated.

Well how do you know he was well educated then?

Bonito

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Well how do you know he was well educated then?

I consider myself mildly educated and spoken and I can't speak fluent Irish. I picked up Spanish quicker than Irish. Then again the way the teaching system goes about teaching Irish is ridiculous. They want more people speaking it but are not teaching it correctly. They're teaching it as a subject rather than a language. I think if they focused on teaching it as a language and give people the understanding of it they can then focus on teaching people about it's background, poetry, stories etc.

AnonoBoy

Bonito wrote: »

I consider myself mildly educated and spoken and I can't speak fluent Irish. I picked up Spanish quicker than Irish.

He could have grown up in a Gaeltacht region. Admit it the only reason you had for thinking he was well educated was that he was well spoken.

bonerm

Bonito wrote: »

The chap claimed he stayed calm the whole time while talking to the bouncer and by the impression I got from him over the phone he wouldn't say boo to a ghost so I believed it.

Eventually the bouncer chucked the two chaps out. For speaking Irish. Who the Fúck does he think he is!!!

There's his first mistake, engaging the knuckle-dragging moron in the first place and trying to use logic & reason against a him. No point trying the usual arguements against a bouncer as they've spent the previous 8 hours formulating patented responses to almost everything. Best to just come out with something out of left-field like egprentending you don't understand a word of English and then they can't really do jack against you without physically dragging you out of the place - and he's not going to get involved at that level for something like that just for what was claimed by the caller.

(Don't believe the incident even happened btw).

pickarooney

Bonito wrote: »

I picked up Spanish quicker than Irish.

You should be able to proofread your sig then.