16 year old rape victim receives 101 lashes for becoming pregnant

unkel

This makes me sick :mad:

A 16-year-old girl who was raped in Bangladesh has been given 101 lashes for conceiving during the assault.

The girl's father was also fined and warned the family would be branded outcasts from their village if he did not pay.

According to human rights activists, the girl, who was quickly married after the attack, was divorced weeks later after medical tests revealed she was pregnant.

The girl was raped by a 20-year-old villager in Brahmanbaria district in April last year.

Bangladesh's Daily Star newspaper reported that she was so ashamed following the attack that she did not lodge a complaint.

Her rape emerged after her pregnancy test and Muslim elders in the village issued a fatwa insisting that the girl be kept in isolation until her family agreed to corporal punishment.

Her rapist was pardoned by the elders.

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That_Guy

Her rapist was pardoned by the elders.

FFS. That article is extremely messed up.

My name is URL

Muslims, no surprise there then

MaybeLogic

Please say you're joking,URL.
Case with similarities recently in Listowel.
Christians,the lot of them.

Ciaran187

My name is URL wrote: »

Muslims, no surprise there then

...I'm not even going to bother

Smcgie

Sick sick stuff! But how did she survive 101 lashes? Was Jesus not subject to 40 and another one would have killed him.

Suppose you shouldn't believe everything you read or hear.. Bible included

My name is URL

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Please say you're joking,URL.
Case with similarities recently in Listowel.
Christians,the lot of them.

I was only half joking. It's not the first time that a thread has been posted about a victim been punished for getting raped. It was Muslims the last time too

The Listowel thing isn't really the same at all.. the rapist was sent to jail, and the victim wasn't punished by law.. just humiliated by idiots

biko

It's a man's world, well in the Muslim countries anyway.

dsmythy

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Please say you're joking,URL.
Case with similarities recently in Listowel.
Christians,the lot of them.

101 lashes hey?

Smcgie

The irish version of the story would read something like this:

Man sentenced to 101 lashes after a woman accuses him of sexual harassment/rape. Turns out the guy simply said hello to her on the bus.

Choke

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

Sick sick stuff! But how did she survive 101 lashes? Was Jesus not subject to 40 and another one would have killed him.

Suppose you shouldn't believe everything you read or hear.. Bible included

Maybe they use a smaller whip for women?

Maybe how they whip has changed in the last two thousand years?
Pretty sure Jesus was whipped with a whip with hooks for flesh.

AnonoBoy

I'm just adding my obligatory Listowel reference.

MaybeLogic

My name is URL wrote: »

I was only half joking. It's not the first time that a thread has been posted about a victim been punished for getting raped. It was Muslims the last time too

The Listowel thing isn't really the same at all.. the rapist was sent to jail, and the victim wasn't punished by law.. just humiliated by idiots

Then there is the sex abuse scandals here where the Guards and state services where complicit in a cover up with our so-called spiritual leaders.
Events that took place not that long ago.
Catholics the lot of them.

aDeener

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Please say you're joking,URL.
Case with similarities recently in Listowel.
Christians,the lot of them.

are you fucking serious? the victim in listowel didnt get 101 lashes, ffs :rolleyes:

Smcgie

Choke wrote: »

Maybe how they whip has changed in the last two thousand years?

Speaking from experience?

Mal-Adjusted

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Then there is the sex abuse scandals here where the Guards and state services where complicit in a cover up with our so-called spiritual leaders.
Events that took place not that long ago.
Catholics the lot of them.

what does that have to do with what the OP is on about?

back on topic, horrific,shameful behavior, but is anybody really surprised?

My name is URL

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Then there is the sex abuse scandals here where the Guards and state services where complicit in a cover up with our so-called spiritual leaders.
Events that took place not that long ago.
Catholics the lot of them.

I wouldn't have agreed with that either. You're right though, I shouldn't tar all with one brush, I'm not trying to

It just doesn't surprise me that the people in this case are Muslim..

Riamfada

Muslims, Christians. Slipnot had it right, all humans are shit some just hide it better than others and see the evil in other peoples cultures and not the evil in themslves. And the PC brigade ... the most evil of all.

Now where was my sandwichboard and bell. Im in danger of becoming a Jesusfreak.

genericguy

i hope the world remembers what cnuts these people are when they eventually come crying for aid.

MaybeLogic

aDeener wrote: »

are you fucking serious? the victim in listowel didnt get 101 lashes, ffs :rolleyes:

I didn't say the cases accorded exactly,I said there were similarities.
Whereby the male population deemed the female party to be the guilty one. The same medieval ,patriarchal thought-processes apply in both cases. Religion doesn't apply. (religion has just happens to have been hijacked by those very same thought processes)

Ciaran187

My name is URL wrote: »

I was only half joking. It's not the first time that a thread has been posted about a victim been punished for getting raped. It was Muslims the last time too

So if there's a couple of murders in Ireland do you brand all Irish murderers just because the last one was the Irish too? I bet you don't have a clue about the Muslim culture. The different sections of the faith etc? Some extremists do exist, much in the way that the IRA and similar are around. Just because something is different or you don't understand it, there's no need to mock it.

I'm not looking to hijack the thread or get into an arguement over this, but it just p1sses me off when I see people saying, sure what do you expect, they're Muslims, or anything along those lines.

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Biggins

To sum up:

TOTAL unfairness in the case of the 16 year old.
(still in a country that is only showing itself up for the idiots that have allowed this to happen)

And as for Listowel, unfairness to in the treatment of the victim.
She too should not/still be not treated as "asking" for what happened and thus held not responsible (by some, coincidently - supporters of the culprit!).

Whats common in both cases is that to varying degrees, unfairness is disgustingly forced upon the victim, where as the culprit is overlooked and by some excused - again each case to varying degrees.

Nuff' said. Moving on...

dylano_k

unkel wrote: »

This makes me sick :mad:



Article

So thats 102 lashes she got altogether

Dr_Phil

genericguy wrote: »

i hope the world remembers what cnuts these people are when they eventually come crying for aid.

They won't ask for aid. We will embrace them in the name of political correctness to slowly turn country by country into Muslim States of Europe. And when you want to organise Christmas in your child's school, you will upset them and in the name of the same political correctness you will be ordered to take the cross off the wall and be fined for being "racist" and "xenophobic". It has already started in UK.

Choke

Biggins wrote: »

To sum up:

TOTAL unfairness in the case of the 16 year old.
(still in a country that is only showing itself up for the idiots that have allowed this to happen)

And as for Listowel, unfairness to in the treatment of the victim.
She too should not/still be not treated as "asking" for what happened and thusly held not responsible (by some, coincidently - supporters of the culprit!).

Whats common in both cases is that to varing degrees, unfairness is disgustingly forced upon the victim, where as the culprit is overlooked and by some excused - again each case to varing degrees.

Nuff' said.

I don't think anyone is denying that parallels between the two cases can be drawn, rather, they see a such a gigantic chasm between 50 people shaking hands with a man guilty of sexual assault, and the lashing of the rape victim 101 times, that they feel any such comparison is misleading, sensationalist, and unnecessary.

aDeener

MaybeLogic wrote: »

I didn't say the cases accorded exactly,I said there were similarities.
Whereby the male population deemed the female party to be the guilty one. The same medieval ,patriarchal thought-processes apply in both cases. Religion doesn't apply. (religion has just happens to have been hijacked by those very same thought processes)

incorrect the vast majority of the male population here in ireland would deem that behaviour completely unacceptable and disgusting.

that behaviour in bangladesh is the done thing over there and they are fine with it.

miniscule similiarities if any

MaybeLogic

Choke wrote: »

I don't think anyone is denying that parallels between the two cases can be drawn, rather, they see a such a gigantic chasm between 50 people shaking hands with a man guilty of sexual assault, and the lashing of the rape victim 101 times, that they feel any such comparison is misleading, sensationalist, and unnecessary.

Some may feel that comparing the entire Muslim population to those involved in this case is misleading,sensationalist and unnecessary.

AnonoBoy

dylano_k wrote: »

So thats 102 lashes she got altogether

Ah the ever reliable rape joke. Complete with a winky smiley face to ensure you can still use the 'it's only a joke' defence.

MaybeLogic

aDeener wrote: »

incorrect the vast majority of the male population here in ireland would deem that behaviour completely unacceptable and disgusting.

that behaviour in bangladesh is the done thing over there and they are fine with it.

miniscule similiarities if any

So the entire population of Bangladesh is fine with this case?

Cookie_Monster

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Some may feel that comparing the entire Muslim population to those involved in this case is misleading,sensationalist and unnecessary.

Others would say its just more of the same proof of how crazy they all are...

Biggins

Choke wrote: »

I don't think anyone is denying that parallels between the two cases can be drawn, rather, they see a such a gigantic chasm between 50 people shaking hands with a man guilty of sexual assault, and the lashing of the rape victim 101 times, that they feel any such comparison is misleading, sensationalist, and unnecessary.

Absolutely. However what each case shares (again, to varying degree) in the willingness by others to forgo decency and replace it with stupidity.

Ciaran187

MaybeLogic wrote: »

Some may feel that comparing the entire Muslim population to those involved in this case is misleading,sensationalist and unnecessary.

Much in the same way as (previously mentioned) we wouldn't like to be branded paedophiles due to the acts of some priests etc. As you see from the story, it's the elders that let the rapist pr1ck go and ordered the girl be lashed (please no jokes - too soon!).

m@cc@

Magnus wrote: »

It's a man's world, well in the Muslim countries anyway.

Try being in Ireland 50 years ago. If we still listened to Christians, it would be a man's world here too.....

WindSock

Hoof_Hearted wrote: »

The irish version of the story would read something like this:

Man sentenced to 101 lashes after a woman accuses him of sexual harassment/rape. Turns out the guy simply said hello to her on the bus.

More like: Woman recieves 101 questions on her sex life after claiming she was raped then it was decided she was too sexually promiscuous to be raped and it was probably her fault anyway.

aDeener

MaybeLogic wrote: »

So the entire population of Bangladesh is fine with this case?

well the entire muslim population are fine with it yes, as that is their law that they must abide by.

Biggins

The example case cited above just honestly further convinces me yet again why church (religion) and state should always be kept separate.

The HorsesMouth

Ciaran187 wrote: »

So if there's a couple of murders in Ireland do you brand all Irish murderers just because the last one was the Irish too? I bet you don't have a clue about the Muslim culture. The different sections of the faith etc? Some extremists do exist, much in the way that the IRA and similar are around. Just because something is different or you don't understand it, there's no need to mock it.

I'm not looking to hijack the thread or get into an arguement over this, but it just p1sses me off when I see people saying, sure what do you expect, they're Muslims, or anything along those lines.

[/RANT]

Ok but the question here is would the same thing occur in other countries with a different majority religion? I think not.

The Muslim religion in general does not hold women in the same regard as they do men and so this invariably leads to what has happened to this girl. No one is saying that this is how all Muslims think or believe, but they all hold a similar thinking regarding women,be it on the extreme level as above or the progressive Muslim (who still dont treat women as totally equal).

Fighting_Irish

Religion ftw

MaybeLogic

aDeener wrote: »

well the entire muslim population are fine with it yes, as that is their law that they must abide by.

Just as we agree with all our laws in the West ,I suppose.

MaybeLogic

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Ok but the question here is would the same thing occur in other countries with a different majority religion? I think not.

The Muslim religion in general does not hold women in the same regard as they do men and so this invariably leads to what has happened to this girl. No one is saying that this is how all Muslims think or believe, but they all hold a similar thinking regarding women,be it on the extreme level as above or the progressive Muslim (who still dont treat women as totally equal).

The last Magdalene Laundry here in Ireland (a non-muslim country),closed in 1996.

The HorsesMouth

MaybeLogic wrote: »

The last Magdalene Laundry here in Ireland (a non-muslim country),closed in 1996.

Are you seriously comparing Ireland with Bangladesh?

If a man had raped a women in Ireland in 1996 do you think he would have got away with it and the women received 101 lashes?

The_Kew_Tour

My old job had me reporting in many Muslim countires and the treatment of women can sometimes be barberic.

i have been unlucky to witness some very disturbing situations happen to females young and old. its part of life over in some these countires for women to be put to the lions den for bringing shame to families.

but people who compare this to cathiolics is way off the mark. im sorry but until you have seen a woman getting lashed, stoned or hung for being victim in ireland or in christian country its then we can compare.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

My name is URL wrote: »

Muslims, no surprise there then

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fryup

16 year old rape victim receives 101 lashes for becoming pregnant

and where did this happen?? co kerry??

MaybeLogic

The HorsesMouth wrote: »

Are you seriously comparing Ireland with Bangladesh?

If a man had raped a women in Ireland in 1996 do you think he would have got away with it and the women received 101 lashes?

You're correct to point out how not every single thing in Bangladesh is the same as here in Ireland. That's very astute of you.
You made a remark about how women are treated in Muslim society and I pointed out how we had parallels in our recent past here in Ireland.

Placebo

takes one ignorant user [My name is URL :rolleyes:] to spark a 50 page argument.

Celly Smunt

why the hell does everybody think all muslims are the same malicious,evil,heartless,cruel monsters?

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

Ah yes. Organised Religion. Would you kindly fcuk off and leave the world alone.

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My name is URL

Placebo wrote: »

takes one ignorant user [My name is URL :rolleyes:] to spark a 50 page argument.

I don't see how what I said is ignorant.

If I was asked to guess what religion the people were in this case, I'd guess Muslim..

Not because I believe all Muslims are bad, just because I'd expect it to be that religion in which it happens most often

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7708169.stm

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

Thats not the problem I have. The problem I have is that people believe this stuff and think it has a part in our society today.

Choke

From rereading the story, we have only her word that she was raped.

Could be two young people got freaky, she hastily got married a short time later (read: pregnant), was divorced because the man who married realised it wasn't his, then tried to claim she was raped to avoid punishment (AFAIR, if you can prove rape you aren't punished).