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Something odd I've noticed in lifting...

  • 25-01-2010 7:19pm
    #1
    Mjollnir
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    I've been lifting seriously since I was roughly 16 (I'm 43 now) and have been using a periodization HIT system since my late 20's (light/medium/heavy cycles, all last one month, 2 weeks rest in between). I've tried bodybuilding and Olympic lifting, but find I just enjoy training for trainings sake the most.

    While I switch up my routines rather frequently, I find that no matter what I do, for chest my strength in fly movements has always been noticeably greater than in my press movements. This has been constant throughout my life. Nothing seems to effect this differential, and it's actually quite disproportional.

    I also have a history of minor left shoulder injuries, but nothing's ever been major.

    Does this sound like a situation where it's simply how I'm put together, and training won't help, or something that might actually be addressed with a different routine?


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  • #2
    Transform
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    something is fairly wrong with either your flys or your bench so - there is no way it should be greater than bench.

    Flys IMO are a high risk exercise and can make shoulder problems worse if not done with care. Sort out the shoulder issues and work triceps more with dips to bring them up for the pressing in the bench press.

    Scap work and shoulder stabilization would help bucket loads also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l90gwRyERPA


    and for shoulder myofacial release

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEstVAK2jQg


  • #3
    Mjollnir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 888 ✭✭✭Mjollnir


    Transform wrote: »
    something is fairly wrong with either your flys or your bench so - there is no way it should be greater than bench.

    Flys IMO are a high risk exercise and can make shoulder problems worse if not done with care. Sort out the shoulder issues and work triceps more with dips to bring them up for the pressing in the bench press.

    Scap work and shoulder stabilization would help bucket loads also

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l90gwRyERPA


    and for shoulder myofacial release

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEstVAK2jQg

    Thanks, and the 2nd video was helpful, although it has a sort of reverb-from-Mars tone quality.

    Yet more odd are these:

    A. My triceps are strong. And by that I mean freakishly strong. There isn't enough weigh on any of the cable machines where I train such that I can't rep to failure at about 15 or so. I've considered free weights for that, but there's too great of a danger factor, as I train alone. I may go to one of the lat pull stations for it, but they're quite popular and I have a tight schedule (they top out around 350, so there's no danger of reaching that in this plane of existence), so I don't have a lot of time to wait around.
    B. I can do 225 lbs (over here, that's 1 olympic bar and 2 45 lbs plates/side) for 20-22 reps, but as soon as I add more weight, even, say 25 lbs, I drop to 6-8.

    My shoulders have always been OK with flyes, and were injured during actual sport activity, not training. I'm doing 85-105 lbs/arm, and there's never a whisper of pain.

    Again, thanks for the input.


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