Are you a useful asset to society?

Red_Marauder

I was thinking about this recently, and how contributions we make to the community and society at large can be positive (paying taxes, charitable services, being responsible adults) or negative (destroying public property, harming the environment, wasting public money and engaging in violent behaviour).
I'm just wondering what you think your net worth is? Are you a net contributor or a net benefactor? Are you in the red or in the black?

Personally, I think I'm in the red. My job doesn't help anybody directly, my employer cooks the books so I don't know what kind of tax I'm really paying, I peed in the street when I was really drunk last night, and I don't do anything for charity whatsoever.

I didn't even give any money to Haiti.

Dudess

Hell no - I'm a member of the PC brigade, and that's what's wrong with society... nowadays.

brummytom

Fuck no

R0ot

I am a complete ****** and have no place on this earth/universe and should have been neutered a long time ago much like most of the internet gaming community. :pac:

El Siglo

Poll fail, where's the fucking "Atari Jaguar usefulness"?

karlog

All the money i earn goes back into this society anyway. That will all end when i get the hell outta here.

Bajingo

I could do more..I blame boards...

kelle

I like to think I am, as I am a frontline health service worker who likes to work like a Trojan and take negligible sick leave - and pay my taxes. But I am a public service worker, and considered a drain on society so that cancels that out...

R0ot

Bajingo wrote: »

I could do more..I blame boards...

I blame yore ma and of course the Irish abortion laws.

seven-iron

How do you know he cooks the books??

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I don't care about society, I am here for myself...

Bajingo

R0ot wrote: »

I blame yore ma and of course the Irish abortion laws.

Nice..

Aodan83

Mmmm. cat!

seven-iron

I like to think I am, as I am a frontline health service worker who likes to work like a Trojan and take negligible sick leave - and pay my taxes. But I am a public service worker, and considered a drain on society so that cancels that out...

Sorry but you chose your career. You wont get any sympathy from me.

Tens of thousands of people have died in Haiti in the past two weeks, nobody cares about your sick leave.

dsmythy

Red_Marauder wrote: »

Personally, I think I'm in the red. My job doesn't help anybody directly, my employer cooks the books so I don't know what kind of tax I'm really paying...

Bloody hell are things THAT bad these days! Anything to eat i guess.

Red_Marauder

seven-iron wrote: »

How do you know he cooks the books??

I went to college with his accountant.

See? I also breach confidentiality with my friends.

kelle

seven-iron wrote: »

Sorry but you chose your career. You wont get any sympathy from me..

I love my career!

seven-iron wrote: »

Tens of thousands of people have died in Haiti in the past two weeks, nobody cares about your sick leave.

Latchy

'' There is no such thing as society '' that's what M Thatcher said

seven-iron

I went to college with his accountant.

So your college buddy is as crooked as your employer!!

See? I also breach confidentiality with my friends.

I know man

Dudess

seven-iron wrote: »

Sorry but you chose your career. You wont get any sympathy from me.

Tens of thousands of people have died in Haiti in the past two weeks, nobody cares about your sick leave.

Jumping the gun a bit there - Kelle's point was that even though she is doing a job which is of value to society (I think Kelle is a nurse, therefore I would agree with her) the mere fact she is a public sector worker puts her, in the eyes of many, in the "not a valuable asset to society" category.

cleremy jarkson

Naya Freezing Test wrote: »

I don't care about society, I am here for myself...

There are billions of people in the world who would give anything they could to be in position you're in and yet you are still apathetic and cynical.

Dudess

Wo... prepare for verbal assault.

seven-iron

Jumping the gun a bit there

What do you want me to do?

Sit on the fence?

Dudess

No, just interpret the point correctly.

seven-iron

No, just interpret the point correctly.

i did
take a break from the net

Dudess

Ok, so how the hell is Haiti of relevance to what Kelle was saying?

iregk

"There was no such thing as society, and even if there was I most certainly had nothing to do with it" - Mark Renton

Milky Moo

I am a Masters students so I think I have less then a regular student money wise, but I always try and give a few cents. I am not an asset in monetary terms but....
I give blood, I always try and smile and be polite when out about, I would like to think I am a good friend and supportive to those in my life,so in that sense I think I am an asset.

seven-iron

I was going for perspective dudess. She was employing an element of self deprecation by quoting general heresay. By extension undervaluing her role in life. However, she is clearly an important part of society. Her use of the word consider is a weak word. Fluff at best. Surely people are allowed a measured response to a poor argument?
I may not be a model boards' poster but I am a poster.

Dman001

Im a student so Im rather useless in society in everyones view.

Mike 1972

seven-iron wrote: »

How do you know he cooks the books??

Because hes still in business ?

Bassboxxx

I defo am, I help people in my job directly, although now that I think of it I do get some job perks I shouldn't so that prob cancels it out...

Dudess

seven-iron wrote: »

Surely people are allowed a measured response to a poor argument?

Where did I say you weren't? And by that token, am I not allowed respond to your posts?

I may not be a model boards' poster but I am a poster.

I don't know anything about your history here (apart from what's in your sig - makes no odds to me though).

I'm just at a loss as to why you rather self-righteously brought up Haiti, that's all. By that logic, people should be clamped down on for saying anything negative about their lives, because others are suffering far more.

scatterpillar

Red_Marauder wrote: »

I was thinking about this recently, and how contributions we make to the community and society at large can be positive (paying taxes, charitable services, being responsible adults) or negative (destroying public property, harming the environment, wasting public money and engaging in violent behaviour).
I'm just wondering what you think your net worth is? Are you a net contributor or a net benefactor? Are you in the red or in the black?

Personally, I think I'm in the red. My job doesn't help anybody directly, my employer cooks the books so I don't know what kind of tax I'm really paying, I peed in the street when I was really drunk last night, and I don't do anything for charity whatsoever.

I didn't even give any money to Haiti.

Your positives: I pay taxes on the little that I'm paid; I partake in charity work (albeit not as much as I used to at all); ... responsible adult? Ummm... nah not so much!

Your negatives: I don't make a habit of destroying public property; I mightn't have a massive negative effect on the environment myself but at the same time I could do a lot better; I don't waste any public money to the best of my knowledge; and I definitely don't engage in violent behaviour!

Do I pass?

bazmaiden

I'm a frontline public sector worker, working with adults with intellectual disability.

You tell me if i am usefull or not?

Personally i feel i am usefull but could do more

Jev/N

Dudess wrote: »

I'm a member of the PC brigade

I'm a member of the mac brigade

bonerm

Red_Marauder wrote: »

I was thinking about this recently, and how contributions we make to the community and society at large can be positive (paying taxes, charitable services, being responsible adults) or negative (destroying public property, harming the environment, wasting public money and engaging in violent behaviour).

Personally, I think I'm in the red. My job doesn't help anybody directly, my employer cooks the books so I don't know what kind of tax I'm really paying, I peed in the street when I was really drunk last night, and I don't do anything for charity whatsoever.

Well on one hand I pay my taxes but on the other hand I consider my current job to be a total waste of public money and am happily drawing a paycheque from it for as long as I can.

BTW, I peed on Ayers rock if that makes you feel any better. Aboriginals shouldn't have left all those signs around saying respect their stupid cave-gods. Hmm, I guess that puts me in the negative now......

Biggins

Dman001 wrote: »

Im a student so Im rather useless in society in everyones view.

I wouldn't consider you useless.
I'd consider yourself a possible investment to our future. How that investment pans out remains to be seen.

In answer to the question. I try to be an asset, firstly to my children/wife, then to our nation and its people, in that order.

Agricola

Im an asset in so far as I pay a small amount of tax on my small income, I pay VAT on all purchases, and pay a ridiculous amount of motor tax for the pleasure of driving an old shít box with a big engine. I dont make a nuissance of myself in society, dont engage in public disorder or generally behave in a manner with could be construed as unlawful!
I dont do any community work or give out to charidee though. Tbh, I cant be arsed. Ill be dead an eternity, might as well concentrate on meself!

Joey the lips

Yep, Look at my signature.

btard

seven-iron wrote: »

Sorry but you chose your career. You wont get any sympathy from me.

Tens of thousands of people have died in Haiti in the past two weeks, nobody cares about your sick leave.

Sorry but the public servants do not require your sympathy or support. Have fun when your streets are full of garbage and rats.

yeah! The missus and kids depend on me to bring home the bacon!
As for being an asset, no, thats a newborn donkey!

gsxr1

I voted no.

redundancy has left me with no job for 1 year now. After 15 years as a tax payer... despite daily effort to get back to work. I can only look forward to the 200 euro dole every week. depression setting in . big time:(


Fail .. big time..

jumpguy

Yes, I'm a scumbag. I help society by keeping the elderly off the streets and being a dick!

dylano_k

Yes

The_Kew_Tour

gsxr1 wrote: »

I voted no.

redundancy has left me with no job for 1 year now. After 15 years as a tax payer... despite daily effort to get back to work. I can only look forward to the 200 euro dole every week. depression setting in . big time:(


Fail .. big time..

its not your fault this country is the way it is

i salute you for least trying your best to get work..its people like you who deserve bit of luck.

keep head up your far from fail.

pistonsvox

musicians are pretty useless i guess:(

phantom_lord

don't think i would be considered so in my current profession. prob will be in my next one though!

Joey the lips

Just for the record i would not consider anyone out of work useless. If you are a lazy pce of sh1t ok but there is a massive amount of people out of work through no faut of there own.

If you do find yourself in that position consider vol work to fill the void. It can make you a part of something and the reward is usually the result.

samhail

before i answer - exactly what kind of cat do you have ?

suitseir

gsxr1 wrote: »

I voted no.

redundancy has left me with no job for 1 year now. After 15 years as a tax payer... despite daily effort to get back to work. I can only look forward to the 200 euro dole every week. depression setting in . big time:(


Fail .. big time..

I was recently made redundant and it is NOT a nice feeling. However, there was just the boss and me and his business has seriously gone under and there was no other outcome! I wouldn't consider it a fail....big time, and neither should you!

Depression WILL set in, if you allow it. These are not easy times, so here is what I have done. I still have a routine every day.....getting up at the same time....taking exercise, walking works for me. I got involved in local community projects (I was always involved in musicals and drama through the years) like youth work, under age soccer (fund raising) etc. This can be tough but it is amazing the amount of people you meet up with, people you wouldn't have met before, because you were too busy travelling to and fro to work. Getting involved like this is also a form of networking, and if you have a talent to offer, you never know a job may come out of it! I know a guy who was made redundant long before this recession and got involved in the local golf club. He now has a job there and on 40k a year. Use your talents and put them to work in the community.......check out the local notes for your area in the regional newspaper and see what clubs/societies are in the locality and take it from there. Best of luck.;)