Do you know of a pub that doesn't allow children ... ever?

Lollymcd

Myself and the OH were in the Market Bar on Fade Street in Dublin last week and we counted at least four babies/toddlers (with their parents). It got me thinking about where you could go in Dublin for a drink if you didn't want to listen to/see children.

Liverpool has The Philharmonic, a-strictly-no-children-at-any-time-of-the-day-or-night pub. Does Dublin have anything similar?

BEFORE I GET A TORRENT OF ABUSIVE

I understand

1. That it's hard for a family to find a half decent place to go for a meal these days that isn't McDonalds and doesn't serve alcohol.

2. That children are allowed in pubs until 7.30pm

3. That the Market Bar has the best buggy parking facilities for a restaurant/bar/establishment in Dublin/Ireland/possibly the world!

4. That people with children DO have lives!

I just think that a pub is a very adult place and I think it would cool if there was just one where I could go in the knowledge that it would be childfree.

TheZohanS

Moved to Dublin City forum.

Lollymcd

Oooops! Sorry!

lightening

I don't know of any. Would they let you in? Your attitude is a bit childish!

samhail

place on lower leeson street call angels that probably wont allow kids in

3DataModem

The George.

spurious

I don't recall ever seeing kids in Mulligan's, but I can't say I was really looking for them.

I would imagine old style 'oul' lad' pubs wouldn't have many kids in them.

Lollymcd

Ha Ha!

Doesn't anyone else ever want to have a drink in peace or a chat with friends without having little ones running around?

I've nothing against children in pubs/restaurants, just wondering if there's a pub that has a no-child policy!

@lightening: what attitude? *shock*

lightening

Yeah, spurious is right, just use a bit of cop. The Long Haul wouldn't have kids in it, or maybe strip clubs.

Lollymcd

lightening wrote: »

Yeah, spurious is right, just use a bit of cop. The Long Haul wouldn't have kids in it, or maybe strip clubs.

Cool! I'll suggest the next meet up with the girlies is in Lapelllo or Angels!!!

Good suggestion on The Long Haul and Mulligans, will try them.

Just wondering has any pub actually put their neck on the line and banned children... just curious!

jos28

Harry Byrnes on the Howth Road never allows children in

stovelid

I'm sure there are loads. Just look around.

The Market Bar is widely accepted (to everybody I know anyway) as a place you can bring kids during the day.

I have a kid and I used to go there often before I had him and didn't find it annoying, so maybe you had a unlucky day (give it a try it again) or you're highly intolerant of kids (find somewhere more suitable for you).

Lollymcd

stovelid wrote: »

I'm sure there are loads. Just look around.

The Market Bar is widely accepted (to everybody I know anyway) as a place you can bring kids during the day.

I have a kid and I used to go there often before I had him and didn't find it annoying, so maybe you had a unlucky day (give it a try it again) or you're highly intolerant of kids (find somewhere more suitable for you).

I used to go to The Market Bar all the time (until I discovered Pintxos in Temple Bar yummy yummy tapas!!!) and there have always been tons of kids in the place and I can see why, it's very accessible for people with buggies. I don't have kids but I imagine it can be a nightmare trying to find a decent place that serves decent food with room for buggies etc, so many places seem to ban them on health and safety grounds.

Some people might think I am intolerant of children because I am looking for a pub with no children but is it really so much to ask? Kids are allowed EVERYWHERE, can't we have one place that is just for adults? Just a thought!

Market Bar isn't really a pub though, more a restaurant with a bar at the side! Incidentally what do the kids eat? Do kiddies like tapas these days? Far cry from a fizzy drink and a packet of crisps!:pac:

arybvtcw0eolkf

jos28 wrote: »

Harry Byrnes on the Howth Road never allows children in

I've had my children in Harry Byrnes.

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Even pubs who put a time of 7pm for children are in violation of the law as families (including minors) are allowed on the premises until 9pm unless hot food is being served, in which case its 10pm.

But thats not answering your question, no I don't know any pub which has a no children policy, thank God.

Lollymcd

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

I've had my children in Harry Byrnes.

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Even pubs who put a time of 7pm for children are in violation of the law as families (including minors) are allowed on the premises until 9pm unless hot food is being served, in which case its 10pm.

But thats not answering your question, no I don't know any pub which has a no children policy, thank God.

Thanks for that Amirah Spicy Watchband, i was wondering if it was legit. I know some English pubs can have this policy but was wondering about here!

arybvtcw0eolkf

Lollymcd wrote: »

Thanks for that Makikomi, i was wondering if it was legit. I know some English pubs can have this policy but was wondering about here!

Try look for somewhere with less children than other pubs, I just can't think of any with an absolute no children policy.

Some of the hotel bar's around the city center can by pleasant places to spend with your OH without screaming children running around.

lord lucan

The Bachelor inn.;)

SuperSean11

It would probly be ageism and illegal

Lollymcd

SuperSean11 wrote: »

It would probly be ageism and illegal

Probably...

Ah well *sigh* I thought it's be nice to have just one pub!!! Thanks for all the suggestions!

adamski8

Lollymcd wrote: »

Liverpool has The Philharmonic, a-strictly-no-children-at-any-time-of-the-day-or-night pub. Does Dublin have anything similar?
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Ah The Phil, what a fine place indeed.

SuperSean11 wrote: »

It would probly be ageism and illegal

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Even pubs who put a time of 7pm for children are in violation of the law as families (including minors) are allowed on the premises until 9pm unless hot food is being served, in which case its 10pm.

So? eh, what about over 21's pubs/clubs? dont ever hear any prosecutions in regard to these!

MementoMori

Went to Davy Byrnes during summer 2008 with a well-behaved five year old along with 6 other adults during the day and was told that under eights werent allowed on the premises prior to ordering a drink. [Some of the group had arrived 5 mins earlier and already ordered drinks].
Haven't been back since mainly becaus they were extremely snotty and heavy-handed about it. Went to the Westbury instead.

I wouldn't think that kids in bars is all that big of a problem in Dublin.

From my extensive knowledge of drinking in all sorts of places around central Dublin, I'm stuggling to remember running accross that many kids. Coffee shops/restaurants a fair bit but bars not so much.

stovelid wrote: »

I'm sure there are loads. Just look around.

The Market Bar is widely accepted (to everybody I know anyway) as a place you can bring kids during the day.

I have a kid and I used to go there often before I had him and didn't find it annoying, so maybe you had a unlucky day (give it a try it again) or you're highly intolerant of kids (find somewhere more suitable for you).

Would agree with this - Market Bar is pretty much the only place that springs to mind when I try to think of toddler/baby friendly bars in Dublin. I think I even saw in on a list of baby-friendly places in the papers a while back (want to say Irish Times magazine but not 100%)

Also a lot can depend on the children in question - sometimes you have parents who just adopt a laissez-faire approach to children in public and irresponsibly let them run wild while you have other who would fall into the more traditional seen-but-not-heard camp.

Danye

Lollymcd wrote: »

Myself and the OH were in the Market Bar on Fade Street in Dublin last week and we counted at least four babies/toddlers (with their parents). It got me thinking about where you could go in Dublin for a drink if you didn't want to listen to/see children.

Liverpool has The Philharmonic, a-strictly-no-children-at-any-time-of-the-day-or-night pub. Does Dublin have anything similar?

BEFORE I GET A TORRENT OF ABUSIVE

I understand

1. That it's hard for a family to find a half decent place to go for a meal these days that isn't McDonalds and doesn't serve alcohol.

2. That children are allowed in pubs until 7.30pm

3. That the Market Bar has the best buggy parking facilities for a restaurant/bar/establishment in Dublin/Ireland/possibly the world!

4. That people with children DO have lives!

I just think that a pub is a very adult place and I think it would cool if there was just one where I could go in the knowledge that it would be childfree.

I dont know what area your looking for, but there is a pub in crumlin called Sheary's which has a no kids policy, nice enough boozer with friendly people but it might be out of the way for ya??

doohan

I know Sheehan's on Chatham Street doesn't allow buggies. Place is too small really. Which I like.

Gaspode

Dont know of any that have a no child policy, but it would be nice to find a few that have a 'this is a pub, not a playground, keep your brats children at your table not charging around trashing the place. They are your responsibility not ours' type policy.

I hate when certain (probably the majority, but not all) parents allow their kids to do what they want in the pub and ignore them for the duration while the rest of us valianty try to explain to our kids why they cant do the same.

Still, when this started to bother me I voted with my feet and I now never go near a pub on the weekend afternoons if I can help it.

Osgoodisgood

Gaspode wrote: »

Dont know of any that have a no child policy, but it would be nice to find a few that have a 'this is a pub, not a playground, keep your brats children at your table not charging around trashing the place. They are your responsibility not ours' type policy.

I hate when certain (probably the majority, but not all) parents allow their kids to do what they want in the pub and ignore them for the duration while the rest of us valianty try to explain to our kids why they cant do the same.

Still, when this started to bother me I voted with my feet and I now never go near a pub on the weekend afternoons if I can help it.

You think so? I disagree but I would certainly agree that the minority that do allow their kids to run riot give everyone else a bad name. My kids know that at all times they are one false move away from being marched out and brought home without any discussion. It has happened and they didn't like it.

OP, The Dawson Lounge is for fairly obvious reasons out of range for anyone with a buggy. It also serves a grade "A" pint. Much of my pre-kid life was invested in that hallowed establishment.

Lollymcd

Gaspode wrote: »

I hate when certain (probably the majority, but not all) parents allow their kids to do what they want in the pub and ignore them for the duration while the rest of us valianty try to explain to our kids why they cant do the same.

I totally agree with what you're saying here, I've been to pubs and restaurants and there have been a lot of kids there and I've never noticed really but then one child is left to their own devices and it ruins everyone’s experience including the people who have extremely well behaved children as you have pointed out above.

I once had a child try and take something off my plate in a restaurant! The parents thought it was "sooo cute... what a hoot!!!" I just smiled and went back to my meal and my company, I know better than to say anything! No one appreciates anyone who doesn't have children complaining about children!

I will try out some of these suggestions some Saturday afternoon and see how I get on and just for the record I am not anti-kids just some times I want to enjoy a pint without the distraction of children.

Gaspode

Lollymcd wrote: »

I will try out some of these suggestions some Saturday afternoon and see how I get on and just for the record I am not anti-kids just some times I want to enjoy a pint without the distraction of children.

I feel pretty much the same, but when it comes to them being in pubs, kids are like farts - you can just about tolerate your own!

Enjoy your quiet ones!

stovelid

Lollymcd wrote: »

Some people might think I am intolerant of children because I am looking for a pub with no children but is it really so much to ask?

Not at all, but if this is the case, you couldn't find a less suitable place than the Market Bar.

Have to say I don't see the issue in Dublin city centre. Restaurants and cafes perhaps, but it's always seemed very easy to me to find places to drink in Dublin without kids around.

jos28

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

I've had my children in Harry Byrnes.

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They must not have liked the look of mine

Victor

I think the Long Stone in Townsend Street.

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Even pubs who put a time of 7pm for children are in violation of the law as families (including minors) are allowed on the premises until 9pm unless hot food is being served, in which case its 10pm.

I'm not so sure about this. any business is allow discriminate against people under 18 and pubs can set a minimum age.

91011

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

I've had my children in Harry Byrnes.

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Even pubs who put a time of 7pm for children are in violation of the law as families (including minors) are allowed on the premises until 9pm unless hot food is being served, in which case its 10pm.

But thats not answering your question, no I don't know any pub which has a no children policy, thank God.

Pubs may discriminate on age grounds but it must apply to all patrons.

E.g. They can't say no to one 18 year old and then let another in.

Citywest hotel used to have one part of the lounge as an adult only area. - Maybe its something larger pubs could look at. - Bar part - adults only, lounge area - all welcome.?

Lollymcd

91011 wrote: »

Pubs may discriminate on age grounds but it must apply to all patrons.

E.g. They can't say no to one 18 year old and then let another in.

Citywest hotel used to have one part of the lounge as an adult only area. - Maybe its something larger pubs could look at. - Bar part - adults only, lounge area - all welcome.?

I think you're on to something here 91011, I think this would be a good compromise.

Gaspode

91011 wrote: »

Pubs may discriminate on age grounds but it must apply to all patrons.

E.g. They can't say no to one 18 year old and then let another in.

Citywest hotel used to have one part of the lounge as an adult only area. - Maybe its something larger pubs could look at. - Bar part - adults only, lounge area - all welcome.?

When I was a nipper, kids were never allowed into the bar except for very short periods, e.g. to tell their dad that mammy said it was time to go. Even the wimmens didnt go in there, they drank in the lounge with the kids (and the whipped men!).

lot to be said for that methinks. (the kids bit I mean, no point going to the pub if there's no women)

MrsKitka

Just a thought...

If it's babies and toddlers you want to avoid then any pub that is upstairs or downstairs from the ground level, has narrow and dirty toilets, is hard to move through, etc.... No parent in their sane mind will willingly negotiate the stairs, narrow catwalks and dirty toilets with a pram and/or nappy bag and mountain of baby gear.

The point about bars serving food allowing kids is irrelevant. No sane parent worth his salt will be at the pub with their young children, especially babies and toddlers, past 5PM. It takes time to get home, change nappy, feed, bathe and put to bed so no danger of running into young children in the pub after work.

MrsKitka

Just an afterthought... if you're gonna want to 'ban babies and toddlers', why not go whole hog and ban all minors, old people, the fat, the infirm, the terminally stupid, foreigners, people with red hair and soccer fans?

I hate stupid door policies....

WindSock

MrsKitka wrote: »

Just an afterthought... if you're gonna want to 'ban babies and toddlers', why not go whole hog and ban all minors, old people, the fat, the infirm, the terminally stupid, foreigners, people with red hair and soccer fans?

I hate stupid door policies....

Oh get off your high horse, the OP already stated clearly she doesn't hate kids. We all want a nice break sometimes and it is perfectly acceptable to not want to be sitting in a noisy pub full of children when all you want a quiet pint. Parents and kids can go almost anywhere that that is accessable here, I don't see why there is a problem to have a couple 'havens' in the city.

Gaspode

MrsKitka wrote: »

Just an afterthought... if you're gonna want to 'ban babies and toddlers', why not go whole hog and ban all minors, old people, the fat, the infirm, the terminally stupid, foreigners, people with red hair and soccer fans?

I hate stupid door policies....

I dont think anyone mentioned banning babies or toddlers, it was you who brought that up. The original question was not about banning, simply a query as to whether there are any pubs that dont allow children.

And as my dad is a rotund 75yr old wheelchair-bound Yorkshire man, who is proud to still have a mop of ginger hair, banning him from the local pub when his beloved Leeds are on TV would kill him altogether!

efb

Never thought about it before, not a huge fan of people's adorable kids at the best of times (bubble snot is cute- who knew?) but a favoured pub of mine, The Font Lounge, doesn't see much kids. No to Gay Adoption!

Lollymcd

MrsKitka wrote: »

Just an afterthought... if you're gonna want to 'ban babies and toddlers', why not go whole hog and ban all minors, old people, the fat, the infirm, the terminally stupid, foreigners, people with red hair and soccer fans?

I hate stupid door policies....

Geeze don't be so reactionary! I don't want anyone to be banned! Just want to escape once in a while!

While I appreciate your suggestions of going to a dirty pub I don't think I should have to. I wonder how often you go to pubs (I think from your post above that you might be refused entry a lot!!!) especially as you think any parent "worth their salt" will have left with their kids by 5pm.... I'd say this equates to 1% of parents who take their kids to pub. I have regularly seen kids in pubs (not just The Market Bar) well after 5pm....7.30pm...10pm

efb wrote: »

Never thought about it before, not a huge fan of people's adorable kids at the best of times (bubble snot is cute- who knew?) but a favoured pub of mine, The Font Lounge, doesn't see much kids. No to Gay Adoption!

Ha ha ha! I can't remember ever seeing kids in the Front Lounge that's true!

Went to the Dawson Lounge this weekend - Thanks for the suggestion! Cool place and kid free too!

Cheers for all your suggestions!

MrsKitka

In fact, I've never been refused entry at a pub, bar or club.

And 10pm is too late to have young children in a pub .... unless you're in Spain at a terrace cafe on the plaza and you're on holiday.

Lollymcd

Just wanted to report back to folks, I was in the Dawson Lounge again this weekend and tripped over a buggy on my way in, I kid you not! (No pun intended!) It seems it's popular with tourists who regularly traipse in and out for a pint with kids in tow!


I've given up the search!!!

uncle ernie

Doyles on Fleet St. dont allow kids as far as i know

MissHoneyBun

Amirah Spicy Watchband wrote: »

OP, its very dodgy for a pub to refuse to allow children on its premises unless its a private member's club, why?.. Because a publican is given a licence to serve the public.

Yes and you've forgotten the important bit which also entitles them to reserve the right to refuse admission. Which we all know they can apply to basically anyone they don't feel like having on their premises at any given time. And to be fair, your average p1sshead has been known to cause less racket than Mummy and Daddy's little treasures so why not turf them out instead?

That said, can't say I know of any children who ask to go to the pub so it's not a dodgy pub who refuses them Amirah Spicy Watchband but a dodgy parent who sits there with a p1ssed off child surrounded by p1ssed off punters whilst they neck pints.

PaulieC

having three kids myself, I have a good ability to filter out any child-associated noises...having said that, when you are ina pub and there are OPKs annoying you, a good method to get them to stop is to 'accidentally' trip them up and when you bendo down to pick them up, give them a swift kidney punch. Invariably they give you a wide berth after that...

Raiser

Do you know of a pub that doesn't have Rats ... ever?

Myself and the OH were in the Local Bar on in Dublin last week and we counted at least four Rats. It got me thinking about where you could go in Dublin for a drink if you didn't want to see Rats.

Liverpool has The Philharmonic, a-strictly-no-Rats-at-any-time-of-the-day-or-night pub. Does Dublin have anything similar?

BEFORE I GET A TORRENT OF ABUSIVE

I understand

1. That it's hard for Rats to find a half decent place to go for a meal these days that isn't McDonalds and doesn't serve alcohol.

2. That Rats are allowed in pubs until 7.30pm

3. That the Local Bar has the best Rat breeding facilities for a restaurant/bar/establishment in Dublin/Ireland/possibly the world!

4. That people with Rats DO have lives!

I just think that a pub is a very adult place and I think it would cool if there was just one where I could go in the knowledge that it would be Rat free.

Not taking a swipe at the OP but I was perplexed the whole way through reading that as to what the problem is with Kids being in Pubs to the extent that finding one that is not blighted becomes an earnest mission!

- Decided to edit in something I happen to find repulsive and a threat to my own enjoyment and relaxation in an effort to understand.....