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removing tar

  • 16-01-2010 10:47pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭


    what is the best way too remove tar from the car. also i'v got loads of stone chippings. is there any way this can be repaired or is it a respary it needs. damn pot hole out the house


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    For the tar, you can get tar and glue remover, or use WD40. some people recommend petrol for this but I've never used it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    i'v tried to petrol.but i'm always afraid it well damage the paint.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,347 ✭✭✭si_guru


    Petrol will remove tar.. WD40 won't... it's probably it's propelant that does!

    Stock chip will need to be painted.. are they too bad for a touch up stick? Some places now can just paint the chips... not the whole car.. google "chipsaway".. http://www.chipsaway.co.uk/ maybe there is someone local doing something like this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Just rub it off with a clay bar - its the best solution!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,073 ✭✭✭✭cena


    how much is a clay bar and were do you get them.

    is it just a bar or do you use anything on it before the bar


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭macroman


    Most Motor Factors will stock clay bars. Price depends on the quality of it. I've bought some for €4 and others for €12.

    Autoglym do a brilliant intensive Tar Remover around €5 for a bottle (white with blue label).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,570 ✭✭✭rebel.ranter


    I just used Holts Tar remover today on my wheels. It's available in Halfords & other motor factors.

    Grey & white aerosol with a black cap. Spray on leave to work for a few mins & wipe off with a cloth.
    NB: Ensure you wash & wax the treated area immediately after treating.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Petrol is grand, just be gentle. And don't smoke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Bessa


    Why not try ordinary butter it always worked year ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Just rub it off with a clay bar - its the best solution!

    No it's not! It will drag across the paint and cause marring. Flat surface VS flat surface with a lump of tar in the middle - it's never going to end good.

    Tar remover is the best way to deal with it. You'll need to get a decent one though, the TurtleWax/Autogleam ones are rubbish. Ask for a trade one in motor factors.

    If you can get your hands on a good one, it will eat the tar almost instantly..

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭macroman


    Try and get one that will emulsify the tar instead of spreading it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Seperate wrote: »
    No it's not! It will drag across the paint and cause marring. Flat surface VS flat surface with a lump of tar in the middle - it's never going to end good.

    I am telling you that is tosh - utter tosh. its the best way at removing tar, be sure to use a wash and wax solution over the area and then rub the clay bar back and forth and you will notice the difference.

    I would really recommend it over any other treatment.

    Find all about it here:
    http://www.web-cars.com/detail/clay.php


    Quote from that site:
    What it does for a painted surface is similar to the function of polish, but unlike polish, clay is not an abrasive. This is an advantage for the beginning or casual detailer, as no harm can be done to the paint


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,313 ✭✭✭Mycroft H


    Petrol.

    Pour a little on a rag and gently rub.

    It removes tar, rust stains and other crap sticking to the bodywork and ive yet to see it damage the bodywork

    T-cut will do the job but will take longer....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Stay the hell away from T-cut, its too abrasive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    Mc Love wrote: »
    I am telling you that is tosh - utter tosh. its the best way at removing tar, be sure to use a wash and wax solution over the area and then rub the clay bar back and forth and you will notice the difference.

    I would really recommend it over any other treatment.

    Find all about it here:
    http://www.web-cars.com/detail/clay.php


    Quote from that site:

    Think about it... clay is a flat surface... the paintwork is a flat surface... a lump of stubborn tar is in the middle of two said flat surfaces, and you are rubbing them together.

    Of course it is going to cause marring. Tar can be as tough as a little stone. Would you rub a stone against your paintwork with your hand? That is the equivelant of what you're saying.

    Break down the tar with a remover, and simply wipe it away with a microfibre cloth. No rubbing the paint, no rubbing tar on the paint work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Seperate wrote: »
    Think about it... clay is a flat surface... the paintwork is a flat surface... a lump of stubborn tar is in the middle of two said flat surfaces, and you are rubbing them together.

    Of course it is going to cause marring. Tar can be as tough as a little stone. Would you rub a stone against your paintwork with your hand? That is the equivelant of what you're saying.

    Break down the tar with a remover, and simply wipe it away with a microfibre cloth. No rubbing the paint, no rubbing tar on the paint work.

    Have you even done claying before?? I assume you have seeing as you have detailing ad in your signature. It doesnt affect the paintwork at all - my mate in the UK has a detailing service and has his own shop full of detailing products.

    Fine, look you have your own opinion, i have mine. I have used clay bar on my own car and was amazed at the results and would recommend anyone trying it and telling me how it has worked out for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 774 ✭✭✭Seperate


    Mc Love wrote: »
    Have you even done claying before?? I assume you have seeing as you have detailing ad in your signature. It doesnt affect the paintwork at all - my mate in the UK has a detailing service and has his own shop full of detailing products.

    Fine, look you have your own opinion, i have mine. I have used clay bar on my own car and was amazed at the results and would recommend anyone trying it and telling me how it has worked out for them.

    I'm not saying claying is bad for your car - it's not. I clay every car I work on.

    It's just a bad way to remove tar from your car. Which is what the topic is about...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Seperate wrote: »
    I'm not saying claying is bad for your car - it's not. I clay every car I work on.

    It's just a bad way to remove tar from your car. Which is what the topic is about...

    Fair enough - if you do work at that detailing place, you know more than me. I am just going on what I was advised.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,140 ✭✭✭John mac


    wd40 great job. Tar remover is good also.
    just be patient and lots of elbow grease and cloths. and time.

    dont rush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    si_guru wrote: »
    Petrol will remove tar.. WD40 won't... it's probably it's propelant that does!

    I beg to differ I've been using it to remove tar of my cars for the last 10 years, I've even used WD40 from a spray bottle for it.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,413 ✭✭✭HashSlinging


    Spray WD40, leave for 1 min, and wipe. Always works for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭maidhc


    I use white spirit or Petrol.

    No need for elbow grease, and no it doesn't damage the paintwork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Loads of good tips here, never knew that WD40 would remove the tar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,088 ✭✭✭sean1141


    holts tar remover as mentioned above is the best product i have come across for removing tar. clay bars will remove small tar spots but most clay bar manufactures recomend you remove tar from the paint work before using the clay bar. the best way i find to clean my car is
    1. wash with 2 bucket method.
    2. dry off
    3. remove tar
    4. wash again
    5. clay bar
    6. polish
    7. wax


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭chasm


    Have to say WD40 is great for removing tar, i have used it to remove tar from laminate flooring too.
    Slightly off topic but if you get bored...."2000+ uses for wd40"
    http://www.wd40.com/files/pdf/wd-40_2042538679.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 235 ✭✭Stingray


    WD40 is fantastic and very little elbow grease involved in it. Spray a small bit, let to soak for 1-2 minutes then rub clear


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 58 ✭✭cork sham


    furniture polish works for me.

    spray on a bit of mr sheen, live it on for a min or two and with a cloth rub the tar off using your nail through the cloth


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 214 ✭✭spunk_monkey


    Only the other day I gave my car a good going over:

    washed, de-tarred, washed, dried, clayed,polished and waxed.

    I had a good few tar spots that were not shifting with a wash..

    I used the auto-glym intensive tar remover..this stuff is excellent, it dissolved the tar pretty much instantly and can them be wiped away with little to no pressure.

    I would tend to agree with one of the guys above, in that I would clean the car thoroughly (including tar spots etc) before using a clay bar.

    I wash my car at least every week with a wash and wax combo, apply a hard wax about once a month or so, and polish maybe twice a year. I have only ever used a clay bar once, to be honest I couldn't notice any difference after it, thou I'm sure it removed harmful stuff I couldn't see ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,361 ✭✭✭YouTookMyName


    Best Stuff.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,285 ✭✭✭BanzaiBk


    I use Tardis, it's stupid easy to use and is more cost effective in the long run. I live in an area where cars are more prone to tar spots. I'd have to agree with Seperate re: clay and tar. Before I clay any car I de-tar first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,099 ✭✭✭muckwarrior


    I tried TurtleWax Bug and Tar remover. I could have saved myself a few Euro and just pissed on it instead because I'm sure it couldn't have been more useless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭neilthefunkeone


    As above.. Tardis... literally just dissolves the stuff.. Quick wipe with a cloth.. Be sure to clean the whole area where you applied it after wards!

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    Here....

    and Here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,401 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Always use a tar remover before the clay. I used autoglym tar remover and then dodo juice clay at the weekend. It's amazing how smooth the paint is and it's 100% easier to apply any polish or wax.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79 ✭✭laura1990


    Remove tar regularly from my parents and grandmas car (which are yellow and silver), I use petrol and it does the job fine everytime


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭RandomAccess


    Tardis is supposed to be the best there is but its really a trade product and can be hard to get, and even if you can I think its only available in large containers.
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I would like to buy some if I could.

    My brother used Holts tar remover as pictured in an earlier post and it worked really well as his car was destroyed with tar and the results were very impressive. I believe it sprays on quite easily, and I've seen it in a few filling stations car accessories shelves so it should be easy to get. Many small independent old style filling stations sell stuff like this in the shop.

    I have autoglym intensive tar remover myself, its good but I think a spray on method would be best. Some people spray the autoglym tar remover on by fitting a spray head to the bottle, so might try that at some point.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,106 ✭✭✭✭TestTransmission


    Parafin does a great job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    A 500ml "sample" bottle of Tardis can be got on cleancar.ie for about 6 euro.

    Tardis is supposed to be the best there is but its really a trade product and can be hard to get, and even if you can I think its only available in large containers.
    Correct me if I'm wrong as I would like to buy some if I could.

    My brother used Holts tar remover as pictured in an earlier post and it worked really well as his car was destroyed with tar and the results were very impressive. I believe it sprays on quite easily, and I've seen it in a few filling stations car accessories shelves so it should be easy to get. Many small independent old style filling stations sell stuff like this in the shop.

    I have autoglym intensive tar remover myself, its good but I think a spray on method would be best. Some people spray the autoglym tar remover on by fitting a spray head to the bottle, so might try that at some point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Johnson and Johnson babywipes, but only if you got a lot of time on your hands:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 vince9


    use some panel wipe ( de greaser) you can get it from most motorfactors its industrial strength wont damage paint and takes 5 mins to do a whole car badly coverd in tar. as for the stonechips they would be better painted but you could touch them up but still noticeable from a close distance. if your touching them up just go to your main dealers and get a touch up stick for a tener. clay bar wont do anything for stonechips or tar!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,593 ✭✭✭Northern Monkey


    Tardis is the best product I have used for removing it quickly. A clay bar will work but will take a lot more effort.

    Tardis is a professional grade product so needs to be used with a bit of care. I don't actually think cleancar.ie should be decanting it into sample bottles as I remember Autosmart posting on detailing world about ebay sellers breaking the law by not selling it in its original metal container due to the hazardous nature of the product.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 vince9


    im a spray painter i paint stone chips every day nothing will get them out but painting them. i wish clay bar worked for stone chips would make my job alot easier


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