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BMW 318d or Skoda Superb 2.0Tdi?
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13-01-2010 6:41pm#1
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OP, go for a 170bhp Superb if you were to go for one, then you have the engine Audi put in the A4 and A6, unfortunately the 140bhp Superb still gets the outdated PD injection TDi rather than the CR injection you get in the 170bhp version
I would also go for the Superb btw, the money needed to upspec a 318d to the standard of the Superb Elegance would be biblical, and whats more, yes the bimmer would be better to drive but the i've no doubt that 4/5 of drivers would appreciate the extra comfort and toys of the Superb rather than the occasional extra driving pleasure of a poverty spec 318d. Whats more the Superb is certainly not bad to handle, its surprisingly agile for its size and i'm sure it would give more driving pleasure than most in that class.
Also, the spec of an elegance Superb has to be seen to be believed, sat nav, full heated lleather seats, self parking system, the list is endless. Do your self a favour though, get the 18" optional rims over the standard 17"s
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What Zonda999 said but ignore his advice on the 18" rims
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BMW all the way, i'd sooner walk than drive a Skoda.
I'm not sure I agree 100% but it's nice to see someone who is immune to the Skoda's yellow brand magnificence. Everyone else around here is batty about it!
I popped into a showroom to examine one the other day and see what all the fuss is about. It's not as massive inside as I was expecting but quality and fit/finish are pretty good. Really though, it's just an XL Octavia for flush taxi drivers. When I was there a grown-up farming family seemed to be close to making a deal.
I'd probably recomend one to a friend. I wouldn't though...0 -
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I hear you all but am still not sure.
I had thought I could get the Superb Tdi 170 bhp but my company told me today that I can only get the 140. Mind you i can also spend €2000 on extras so was thinking of 18" alloys, sunroof and sports pack. Thne Superb already comes with leather, sat nav,park assist and all the usuall. The superb would not handle anything like the bmw but I kinda think its a lot cooler than a 318.
Do I want a plain car that drives very well or something a bit different that dosent?0 -
OP, go for a 170bhp Superb if you were to go for one, then you have the engine Audi put in the A4 and A6, unfortunately the 140bhp Superb still gets the outdated PD injection TDi rather than the CR injection you get in the 170bhp version
I would also go for the Superb btw, the money needed to upspec a 318d to the standard of the Superb Elegance would be biblical, and whats more, yes the bimmer would be better to drive but the i've no doubt that 4/5 of drivers would appreciate the extra comfort and toys of the Superb rather than the occasional extra driving pleasure of a poverty spec 318d. Whats more the Superb is certainly not bad to handle, its surprisingly agile for its size and i'm sure it would give more driving pleasure than most in that class.
Also, the spec of an elegance Superb has to be seen to be believed, sat nav, full heated lleather seats, self parking system, the list is endless. Do your self a favour though, get the 18" optional rims over the standard 17"s
How often does one use a sat nav though? In practice id say most people don't use it. Its just a gimmick that's nice to have. Self parking system is good craic but in practice is probably used to show off to friends more than anything else. Any competent driver will just forget about twiddling dials and just reverse the car in. Theres nothing finer than the satisfaction of parallel parking the car and getting it a few mm from the kerb. Heated seats are hardly an option you could need.
I will admit that leather seats are class but to be honest the host of gadgets wouldnt sway me towards the skoda. Gadgets are nice to have and fiddle with but at the end of the day, you will be primarily driving the car. The finish inside the BMW interior will be better, the drive will be better and the looks are way nicer.0 -
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OP, go for a 170bhp Superb if you were to go for one, then you have the engine Audi put in the A4 and A6, unfortunately the 140bhp Superb still gets the outdated PD injection TDi rather than the CR injection you get in the 170bhp version
I would also go for the Superb btw, the money needed to upspec a 318d to the standard of the Superb Elegance would be biblical, and whats more, yes the bimmer would be better to drive but the i've no doubt that 4/5 of drivers would appreciate the extra comfort and toys of the Superb rather than the occasional extra driving pleasure of a poverty spec 318d. Whats more the Superb is certainly not bad to handle, its surprisingly agile for its size and i'm sure it would give more driving pleasure than most in that class.
Also, the spec of an elegance Superb has to be seen to be believed, sat nav, full heated lleather seats, self parking system, the list is endless. Do your self a favour though, get the 18" optional rims over the standard 17"s
I pretty much agree with all you have said and drove the 170 yesterday and there would be no contest if I could have one.....But I have a 08 A4 2.0 Tdi 143 and the thought of driving the old PD engine might just make me go for the bmw.
Has anyone driven a Superb 140 tdi??0 -
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Id like the skoda for all the comfort
The elegance pack is savage but when im getting hit with BIK i know id rather have cars with loads of sh*t in it then nothing.
The BMW is nice sure it has rear wheel drive but meh when its poverty spec you might regret it.
I thought the dash of the skoda looked good for a skoda, i don't think the dash in the 3 looks anything over special.
Go with what you want
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Henry Ford III wrote: »Superb has a "dropped arse" only a tightwad could love
..whereas a 7-series has a "dropped arse" only the overpaid, myopic (..and easily parted with their money...) could love.........gentlemen, I give you.....Bangle Butt
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LOL, the Skoda is better, more reliable, cheaper, higher spec, and better value. And you still wouldn't buy one ? LOL, so long as people keep that faith, then any 'ol muck that Munich throws out will always be a success.
You seem to have some kind of hatred towards BMW, or do you? Have you ever owned one (and not a low end 4-pot one)? I'm genuinely interested as you know we are often of the same opinion and we both do like our own Porsches but if we had more money we would have other Porsches
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You seem to have some kind of hatred towards BMW, or do you? Have you ever owned one (and not a low end 4-pot one)? I'm genuinely interested as you know we are often of the same opinion and we both do like our own Porsches but if we had more money we would have other Porsches
BTW, I voted Skoda Superb here
No I don't hate them ! In truth, I did have a 'Mk1' 320d Touring for a while, the 120bhp one, which I acknowledge as being fantastic. But what ruined it was the penny-pinching spec and materials, and frankly, complete lack of innovation or style in the interior. Equivalent Audi's of the time (I had a TT then), was like a ........Bentley, compared to it (VAG joke...;)m. Cloth seats, no toys, Yuck ! Front suspension makde of chocolate, and a penchant for a few electronic bits (e.g an ECU @ €1300), kinda ruined the party.
No, what drives me nuts is the fact that we all know that in the Fatherland, they were desinged from new to be well-performing, and suitably engined and equipped. But people opting to buy the plane-jane cheapy one, just to get the badge, imho, only serves to dilute the brand. Sure, the guys in Munich are laughing, another XXXX unit shifted, so they won't care, but there again, that's not why we hang around in Motors, now is it ?;)
And there is the issue that the poverty-spec ones are genuinely...awful. Bad cars even. Look lovely, mind. I've seen so many 318's with coolant issues etc, it's not funny. But hey, it's got the Roundel, and that's all that matters. If you need a cheap, but quality, BMW.......buy a Mini, or buy 2nd hand.
Dynamics apart, I rate the M3 naturally, not for it's performance, which is a 'given', but more for it's accessible performance, and general all-round usefulness - a 911 for the masses, if you will.
All ++ to me.
My sis-in-law is a case in point: her 318 broke her heart. Her replacement 323Ci is fabulous. And ultimately, cheaper to run.
So, it's cars on their merit's: which is why I voted Superb, too.:)
As for our other 'affliction' - crumbs, have you seen the value in 911's and in the US lately............wow.........makes you think. 996's in Ireland now for low 20's......:eek:
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