The Amazing Spider-Man (Spiderman 4/Reboot) *spoilers within*

Anakin.S

http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=26681

Looks like they have given up on spiderman 4.

Good call after what the did with a very weak Venom story line

Basq

They haven't given up on it.. Raimi & Maguire have.

Looks like Spiderman 4 will get made anyways..

.. with a view to completely rebooting the character in 2012.

The reboot, which will be scripted by James Vanderbilt, will return Peter Parker to his high school/drippy teen origins, as he comes into very close contact with a radioactive spider.

Wise decision by Raimi..

pablomakaveli

Their mentioning Zac Efron to play the part in the reboot.:D

Niska

So a reboot with different director and actors.

So what's the chance the baddie discovers Peter's secret identity and kidnaps MJ to use as bait in a trap for Spidie?

Also, I guess this means the Warcraft movie won't be delayed.

Kipperhell

In fairness that really is returning to the source material. I wonder if this has anything to do with Marvel Studios. There could be limited characters they can use and they may even be trying to bring Spider-man back into the fold. Empire suggested Marvel Studios are really going to try and become a huge force.

DVD sales of collections are apparently where big money lies considering the illegal download market so making collections is a good idea. People buy the movie when it comes out first and then buy it again in a collection. People who down load moives are more likely to buy a boxed collection. I can't remember where I was reading that but it makes sense

Niska wrote: »

So a reboot with different director and actors.

So what's the chance the baddie discovers Peter's secret identity and kidnaps MJ to use as bait in a trap for Spidie?

Likely they would do the Gwen Stacy story line this time. Rami has kind of ruined that though by using scenes from it. He kind of missed the whole point of what it was all about but I suspect studios were partly to blame. Spider-man was meant to actually learn what it is to be a hero not win.

ziedth

i'm a little sad by this tbh. 3 was pants but the first two films were right up there in my non comicbook reading opinion.

JP Liz

Tobey Maguire and filmmaker Sam Raimi have quit Spider-Man 4 over a reported script issue

fluke

ziedth wrote: »

i'm a little sad by this tbh. 3 was pants but the first two films were right up there in my non comicbook reading opinion.

Very true.

It's a pity the studio couldn't let Raimi have a go at Vulture. I mean sure S3 was crap but it still made them loads of money!! I kinda wanted to see another Raimi/Maguire film as it would be a chance to redeem themselves of the third movie and I generally like Raimi's direction of the Spiderman movies.

and this thing of a reboot...I hope this just means new director, new lead actor but hopefully doesn't mean back to an origins story.

if that's the case then...gayest.thing.ever. they should explore new villains in new films not rethread old ground so soon.

ziedth

i could only see it having a small chance of working if they took in a compeltely new direction. Like would i be right in saying that there was a superman comic done saying what would happen if he landed in russia? Was there a spiderman comic done anything like that?

podgemonster

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Their mentioning Zac Efron to play the part in the reboot.:D

Dear God NO!!!!!!!

Corholio

Raimi made a complete mess of the third one and i'm glad he won't be directing the fourth. Dont like the origins idea thats been bandied about though, it could be a cheap way out of introducing new villians.

That_Guy

The following made me wish that I had never seen Spiderman 3.

http://www.gifbin.com/bin/2003839490.gif

Kess73

ziedth wrote: »

i could only see it having a small chance of working if they took in a compeltely new direction. Like would i be right in saying that there was a superman comic done saying what would happen if he landed in russia? Was there a spiderman comic done anything like that?

Red Sun is the Superman comic you are thinking of, and it is pretty damn good.


Marvel have used a What If? theme to do short stories about how some of their main characters would have been different if their lives had different turns.

For Spiderman there was one where the Fantastic Four was the Fantastic Five and Spidey was a member. There was one where his Aunt was murdered instead of his Uncle and I think there was one where Gwen Stacy did not die.

There are more versions, but those three are the ones that come to mind.

Kipperhell

ziedth wrote: »

i could only see it having a small chance of working if they took in a compeltely new direction. Like would i be right in saying that there was a superman comic done saying what would happen if he landed in russia? Was there a spiderman comic done anything like that?

The do have an Indian version of Spider-man and then you have all the alternative universe stuff of Marvel Zombies and 1608. Most comic book characters have been shown in alternative time lines and rebooted more than once. Ultimate Spider-man was the last retooling I know of which could easily be where the will base the story.

Stan lee did a whole lot of retelling of DC characters that was actually really bad which was a pity. Robin was the keeper of a half man half bat for example

Raekwon

Too bad Raimi & Maguire have left this project because I was intrigued by the rumoured casting of John Malkovich as The Vulture in Spiderman 4 with the possibility of reprising the role of Dylan Baker as Dr Curt Connors who transforms into The Lizard.

We all saw the results of Sony interference in Spiderman 3 so I'm not really optimistic about a "reboot" of the franchise, especially since it has come so far under Raimi.

JP Liz

Robert Pattinson is favourite to replace Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, it has been claimed.

Maguire, who starred as Peter Parker in the franchise's first three films, announced his departure from the project earlier this week.

Following news that director Sam Raimi and Kirsten Dunst have also been dropped from the latest instalment, speculation is rife over who will replace them.

Twilight star Pattinson is currently looking the most likely to assume the lead role, says the Daily Record.

However, the 23-year-old is believed to be facing serious competition from Michael Cera.

both bad choices imo

fluke

Robert Pattinson is favourite to replace Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, it has been claimed.

Maguire, who starred as Peter Parker in the franchise's first three films, announced his departure from the project earlier this week.

Following news that director Sam Raimi and Kirsten Dunst have also been dropped from the latest instalment, speculation is rife over who will replace them.

Twilight star Pattinson is currently looking the most likely to assume the lead role, says the Daily Record.

However, the 23-year-old is believed to be facing serious competition from Michael Cera.

Sony are clearly spas!

speedboatchase

JP Liz wrote: »

both bad choices imo

Nonsense, esp Pattinson - Peter Parker isn't a pretty boy. I'll eat my own balls if it's either of them and doubt we'll here anything other than baseless rumours for a while. Jesse Eisenberg ftw anywho

I'm hearing more and more about Cera though, wouldn't be the worst pick. Oh and Shia LaBeouf - don't EVEN think about it

Sleazus

Looks like "grim and gritty" is the way forward.

Grim and gritty Spider-Man? There are some heroes that just don't work with grim and gritty. Yes, Spider-Man is grounded in "the real world" and that is sometimes crappy, but it's bright and cheerdul and more than a little zany.

My spidey-sense is tingling.

Handsome Bob

LOL, Cera and Pattison, all of a sudden Shia doesn't sound so bad.

Galvasean

Pattison - excuse my editorial laugh - what a load of bollogs.
Lazy journalism is all it is. Like how Johnny Depp is linked with every concievable role possible in relation to the next Batman film. It's just ignorant journos throwing names they've heard of at films.

Handsome Bob

Galvasean wrote: »

Pattison - excuse my editorial laugh - what a load of bollogs.
Lazy journalism is all it is. Like how Johnny Depp is linked with every concievable role possible in relation to the next Batman film. It's just ignorant journos throwing names they've heard of at films.

LOL yeah, what's even worse is when you read quotes from Depp or David Tennant saying they'd totally dig the role. In reality, I think if Nolan was to us The Riddler he'd move far away from the camp version.

ziedth

I think you could do worse the Cerna tbh.

syklops

In fairness that really is returning to the source material. I wonder if this has anything to do with Marvel Studios. There could be limited characters they can use and they may even be trying to bring Spider-man back into the fold. Empire suggested Marvel Studios are really going to try and become a huge force.

Marvel have a myriad of characters they could use for films, and in some ways the less known ones have resulted in better movies. Personally I always felt Iron man was quite a boring charachter, but the movie was fantastic. Flip side of that is the Fantastic four were heralded by many to be the defacto Marvel heros and the movies sucked.

Hulk was another very famous Marvel charachter, and how many times did they do it before they got it right(ish)?

They are obviously looking to do a Captain America/Avengers movie with Ironman in it. We have already been introduced to SHEILD and to Nick Fury via Ironman, so maybe they want to integrate the Spiderman Universe into the same universe as ironman is currently in. That way they could even just give spidey a cameo in the movie, and then sell the spidey reboot, Ironman, and the Avengers DVDs in a collection. Fans would definitely buy that.

fluke

syklops wrote: »

Marvel have a myriad of characters they could use for films, and in some ways the less known ones have resulted in better movies. Personally I always felt Iron man was quite a boring charachter, but the movie was fantastic. Flip side of that is the Fantastic four were heralded by many to be the defacto Marvel heros and the movies sucked.

Hulk was another very famous Marvel charachter, and how many times did they do it before they got it right(ish)?

They are obviously looking to do a Captain America/Avengers movie with Ironman in it. We have already been introduced to SHEILD and to Nick Fury via Ironman, so maybe they want to integrate the Spiderman Universe into the same universe as ironman is currently in. That way they could even just give spidey a cameo in the movie, and then sell the spidey reboot, Ironman, and the Avengers DVDs in a collection. Fans would definitely buy that.

They could've done that with the Spiderman universe that had existed...

sigh...

syklops

fluke wrote: »

They could've done that with the Spiderman universe that had existed...

sigh...

Maybe they knew when doing Ironman that Spiderman 4 was going to be troublesome(or that Raimi was going to be troublesome)

fluke

syklops wrote: »

Maybe they knew when doing Ironman that Spiderman 4 was going to be troublesome(or that Raimi was going to be troublesome)

Good point.

'He's not your Spiderman he's mine! Mine I tell you MAIINE!!!'

Handsome Bob

It's still a good while until the rights revert back to Marvel, the only way Spidey could turn up in The Avengers film in 2012 is if there was something in it for Sony.

Goiter

Joseph Gordon Levitt as Parker???

http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=8998

BTW, loved 500 days of summer!

speedboatchase

Marc Webb is in as Director for the new Spiderman... Trilogy

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/

Duggy747

Meh, I was never a fan of the Spidey movies (The 2nd was enjoyable, though) found them to be too cheesy - I know the tone was light-hearted just couldn't warm to them.

As for a reboot, ah, it's just as a good as a sequel without Sam and Toby. It is worrying though when they're beginning to reboot franchises so quickly nowadays.

Raekwon

speedboatchase wrote: »

Marc Webb is in as Director for the new Spiderman... Trilogy

http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/01/19/marc-webb-to-direct-new-spider-man-trilogy/

So the new Spiderman movies will be a chick-flicks?

Seriously though, have you seen this music video directors slate? My Chemical Romance, Miley Cyrus, Ashlee Simpson, Hilary Duff etc.......cringeworthy stuff.

IMO if they were going to go down that route then they should have signed up the likes of Chris Cunningham, Jonathan Glazer or Mark Romanek.

conorhal

I think this is pretty good news, it's just a shame that the fanboys are spitting the dummy because Sony have dropped the axe on fanboy high priest Sam Raimi. This I just don't understand, he made two wildly uneven, pretty brainless but ultimately inoffensive Spiderman flicks and one so damn bad that it made my eyeballs bleed.

I know this is an unpopular opinion (but it's mine so I'm entitled to it), but many fanboy faves such as Raimi, Jackson and Del Torro should stick to low budget schlock horror and slapstick because they have decidedly underwhelmed me with their ability to tell a decent narrative story while simultaneously overwhelming me with their giddy overdependence on 'special effects' story telling. Not one of their films has felt like anything other than a decent first draught that was rushed to the screen by a director with not nearly as much interest in his characters as he has for playing with a shiny new digital toolbox.

Webb is a good fit for Spiderman because he knows how to tell a story with visual flair, rather than using visual flair to tell a story. And Joseph Gordon Levitt would have been a thousand time better as Spiderman than the 'I have a constant expression of 'golly-gosh' on my face Maguire'.

So in short (yeah right you say!) I'm pretty positive about this news.

Goodshape

+1 to everything conorhal wrote.

Tusky

conorhal wrote: »

I think this is pretty good news, it's just a shame that the fanboys are spitting the dummy because Sony have dropped the axe on fanboy high priest Sam Raimi. This I just don't understand, he made two wildly uneven, pretty brainless but ultimately inoffensive Spiderman flicks and one so damn bad that it made my eyeballs bleed.

I know this is an unpopular opinion (but it's mine so I'm entitled to it), but many fanboy faves such as Raimi, Jackson and Del Torro should stick to low budget schlock horror and slapstick because they have decidedly underwhelmed me with their ability to tell a decent narrative story while simultaneously overwhelming me with their giddy overdependence on 'special effects' story telling. Not one of their films has felt like anything other than a decent first draught that was rushed to the screen by a director with not nearly as much interest in his characters as he has for playing with a shiny new digital toolbox.

Webb is a good fit for Spiderman because he knows how to tell a story with visual flair, rather than using visual flair to tell a story. And Joseph Gordon Levitt would have been a thousand time better as Spiderman than the 'I have a constant expression of 'golly-gosh' on my face Maguire'.

So in short (yeah right you say!) I'm pretty positive about this news.

Muchly agreed. Although I loved Lord of the Rings and King Kong was a good mindless adventure. Apart from that though, you are right on the button.

L31mr0d

conorhal wrote: »

Webb is a good fit for Spiderman because...

... his last name is Webb

It's like having someone with Krypton as their last name make a Superman film

conorhal

L31mr0d wrote: »

... his last name is Webb

It's like having someone with Krypton as their last name make a Superman film

With Superman's tendency to spend a decade or two in development hell perhaps uber fanboy (once up for Tim Burton's take on Superman) Nicloarse Cage's son, Kal El Cage (oh yes he did!) might be old enough to sit in the director's chair.....

Handsome Bob

Good god, the premise sounds horrific, concentrating on teenage angst more so than villain fighting? FFS.

Galvasean

But isn't Spider-man supposed to be about teen angst?
Sure, his web fluid is just symbolism for sexual awakening.

Handsome Bob

Galvasean wrote: »

But isn't Spider-man supposed to be about teen angst?
Sure, his web fluid is just symbolism for sexual awakening.

True, but I dunno, I think they're going after the Twilight audience. That's why it doesn't sit right with me.

Galvasean

Maaaaan... I hope the Twighlight audience has hit puberty by then..

Dman001

Obviously they are trying to revamp the whole series like Warner did with Batman/The Dark Knight. You can't blame them really after the success of TDK. I was never a huge fan of Comic book films but I enjoyed the Spiderman Trilogy. They were easy to watch and rather lighthearted compared to Batman Begins/TDK.

I think Michael Cera would of made a good Peter Parker, that is if they were to stick with the storylines and plots of the last 3 films.

Riddle101

I'm glad Maguire and Raimi aren't going to return. Tobey is not a believable Spider-Man, and Raimi ruined SPider-Man 3, it just didn't work for me, the ending especially.

McChubbin

Robert Pattinson is favourite to replace Tobey Maguire as Spider-Man, it has been claimed.

For godsake, must he ruin EVERYTHING that I hold dear?!

Handsome Bob

I don't think it's a sensible rumour, more of a lazy one. I mean I imagine the Twilight films will keep Pattison very busy for the next year or more right? Also, for someone who reportedly hates the attention brought upon him by the Twilight franchise, surely he wouldn't jump straight into another franchise that has its fair shair of an obsessive fanbase.

KRIS VL

I am looking forward to go and see that movie

That_Guy

Tobey Maguire is definitely in it? I thought he wasn't gonna do it anymore?

DazMarz

That_Guy wrote: »

Tobey Maguire is definitely in it? I thought he wasn't gonna do it anymore?

Yeah, I had heard this rumour too. Dispute over the script or something.

So maybe this should be a thread to see who will replace him...

My money would be on Jake Gyllenhaal; he was in the running to be Spiderman along with Maguire, so maybe he will get to be the webslinger this time around!

Galvasean

Maguire has gone on the record to say that he definately wont be in S-m4. In fact, himself, Dunst and Raimi wont be involved.


edit: I suppose I should merge this with the other thread.. Grumble grumble.

Anakin.S

DazMarz wrote: »

So maybe this should be a thread to see who will replace him...

If its a reboot I'd like to see Connor Paolo

Sleazus

DazMarz wrote: »

My money would be on Jake Gyllenhaal; he was in the running to be Spiderman along with Maguire, so maybe he will get to be the webslinger this time around!

The rumour would seem to be that they are going with a no name actor. If the budget is really only $80m (as rumoured), there's no way they'll get anyone vaguely recognisable.